[Repeater-Builder] Remote decoding card for motorola tone

2004-12-27 Thread Marco


I'm looking for a schede or the scheme of a decode card to power on, power
off or change channel of the TX radio of my  motorola repeater.
It ought decode the digital tones of motorola RX radio and give the command
to the TX radio by the rear pin.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks
Marco









 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Coy Hilton


If you don't have a 16 button keypat you don't have a full pad. also 
you can download a simple dialer that generates DTMF from the sound 
card of a pc and you can use it to program the NHRC2 OR ANYTHING 
ELSE THAT TAKES DTMF and the program is free...there are many. You 
can even store DTMF strings for sending complete commands from one 
button.
73
AC0Y


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Richard W. Solomon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The only problem I see is that most (like the NHRC-2) require a 16
 button DTMF pad. I have yet to see a 902 HT that has one.
 I switched to a Zetron 37, much easier to program.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: DCFluX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:29 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
 
 
 
 As a controller designer I can recommend the following:
 
 For a single stand alone repeater: NHRC-2 
 This controller is an excelent value featuring real voice storage.
 
 For a repeater with a link port: NHRC-4
 No voice, CW only. But it will run a remote base or link radio and 
is
 cheap so who cares?
 
 For multiple links/repeaters: Arcom RC-210
 Features upgradeable in the field firmware and individual DTMF
 decoders for all three ports, plus PL decoder logic inputs.  Also
 includes a big ISD voice storage chip for a nice package all the 
way
 around. I don't own one personally, but have interacted with a 
couple
 in the past 6 months to know they are designed extremlly well, with
 about the only thing I don't like is some of the status LED's
 occasionally have a slight glow when not active, but if this 
doesn't
 bother you...
 
 Featuring an autopatch: NHRC-10
 Basicly take a NHRC-2, NHRC-4 and slap on an autopatch and add more
 speech storage and other stuff. This will also interface with 
certain
 radios to provide frequency agile remotes.
 
 
 
 Controllers to stay away from:
 
 I've tried ICS a time or two and didn't really like it.  I have an 
ICS
 linker and it is a pain to program. kinda buggy too, When you 
change
 the CW ID speed the inter character spacing still stays at about
 10WPM, Very humorous. Gonna replace it with a NHRC-4 when I get 
around
 to it.
 
 CAT-300's have good autopatches, but that is about it. Their 
software
 is buggy too.  Known to skip letters in the voice ID's unless they
 re-wrote it, and it is still that same old school texas instruments
 voice from the speak and spell days.  Also they will not release 
their
 coding wanting approx $100 to send eproms for a upgrade. I have 
heard
 If you have a friend with a DX version you can clone its prom and
 change out the clock module and swap a jumper to transform a plain 
300
 to a 300DX. Programming is a pain, if you forget one charector you
 have to start over on a ID string Keypad data error, unless you 
pony
 up the $60 for the programming software.  I have no experience with
 their other controllers though, so take a chance!
 
 CES, Need I say more?
 
 
 
 Middle of the road:
 
 ACC RC-850's are just plain cool! But generate alot of RFI. Plus 
the
 company is out of buisness so it is a act of congress to find one
 living and breathing and if it breaks, it ususally stays broken 
unless
 you wan't to spend the $250 to send it to The Guy. Programming is
 fairly easy with the message editior and most of the commands work
 without ABCD touch tones. It is back to the speak and spell days
 unless you have a functioning DVR, but on the plus side it can
 generate DTMF tones in the courtesy tone generator, you will spend
 countless hours driving your local channel cops insane as you play 
hip
 hop DJ and change CT's just cause you can!
 
 
 Remember: These are my opinions only and you should not base your
 buying decision soley on them.
 
 
 
 
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Richard W. Solomon

I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
From: Coy Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers




If you don't have a 16 button keypat you don't have a full pad. also 
you can download a simple dialer that generates DTMF from the sound 
card of a pc and you can use it to program the NHRC2 OR ANYTHING 
ELSE THAT TAKES DTMF and the program is free...there are many. You 
can even store DTMF strings for sending complete commands from one 
button.
73
AC0Y


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Richard W. Solomon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The only problem I see is that most (like the NHRC-2) require a 16
 button DTMF pad. I have yet to see a 902 HT that has one.
 I switched to a Zetron 37, much easier to program.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: DCFluX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:29 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
 
 
 
 As a controller designer I can recommend the following:
 
 For a single stand alone repeater: NHRC-2 
 This controller is an excelent value featuring real voice storage.
 
 For a repeater with a link port: NHRC-4
 No voice, CW only. But it will run a remote base or link radio and 
is
 cheap so who cares?
 
 For multiple links/repeaters: Arcom RC-210
 Features upgradeable in the field firmware and individual DTMF
 decoders for all three ports, plus PL decoder logic inputs.  Also
 includes a big ISD voice storage chip for a nice package all the 
way
 around. I don't own one personally, but have interacted with a 
couple
 in the past 6 months to know they are designed extremlly well, with
 about the only thing I don't like is some of the status LED's
 occasionally have a slight glow when not active, but if this 
doesn't
 bother you...
 
 Featuring an autopatch: NHRC-10
 Basicly take a NHRC-2, NHRC-4 and slap on an autopatch and add more
 speech storage and other stuff. This will also interface with 
certain
 radios to provide frequency agile remotes.
 
 
 
 Controllers to stay away from:
 
 I've tried ICS a time or two and didn't really like it.  I have an 
ICS
 linker and it is a pain to program. kinda buggy too, When you 
change
 the CW ID speed the inter character spacing still stays at about
 10WPM, Very humorous. Gonna replace it with a NHRC-4 when I get 
around
 to it.
 
 CAT-300's have good autopatches, but that is about it. Their 
software
 is buggy too.  Known to skip letters in the voice ID's unless they
 re-wrote it, and it is still that same old school texas instruments
 voice from the speak and spell days.  Also they will not release 
their
 coding wanting approx $100 to send eproms for a upgrade. I have 
heard
 If you have a friend with a DX version you can clone its prom and
 change out the clock module and swap a jumper to transform a plain 
300
 to a 300DX. Programming is a pain, if you forget one charector you
 have to start over on a ID string Keypad data error, unless you 
pony
 up the $60 for the programming software.  I have no experience with
 their other controllers though, so take a chance!
 
 CES, Need I say more?
 
 
 
 Middle of the road:
 
 ACC RC-850's are just plain cool! But generate alot of RFI. Plus 
the
 company is out of buisness so it is a act of congress to find one
 living and breathing and if it breaks, it ususally stays broken 
unless
 you wan't to spend the $250 to send it to The Guy. Programming is
 fairly easy with the message editior and most of the commands work
 without ABCD touch tones. It is back to the speak and spell days
 unless you have a functioning DVR, but on the plus side it can
 generate DTMF tones in the courtesy tone generator, you will spend
 countless hours driving your local channel cops insane as you play 
hip
 hop DJ and change CT's just cause you can!
 
 
 Remember: These are my opinions only and you should not base your
 buying decision soley on them.
 
 
 
 
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Coy Hilton


If a controller has the features that are required, then it really 
doesn't matter if it's a half watt the size of a cigar box OR a 110 
watt GE MASTRII, or a KW what ever. I own and use three NHRC2 
controllers. I bought the first, after the QST article ran in 
February 1996 (1996 I think). With out the first problem, glitch, or 
upgrade that is great.

I bought and paid for all three, and I haven't been asked for the 
reference.
Jeff and his partners have always been there when I have had a brain 
drain and needed help.

73
AC0Y
Trustee, Owner Operator of the Walt Disney World Area Echolink 
repeater 145.110 -600
Node 86585
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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You
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Meter VHF Preamp

2004-12-27 Thread w9mwq


Thanks!  That is the one I found and downloaded a few days back.  Was 
the only one I found actually.  Going to work on them this week and 
see how they come out. 

Mathew


 Info on the bandpass cavities in question:
 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-band-pass-cavity-filter-
installation-and-tuning-instructions.pdf
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Meter VHF Preamp
 
 
 
  Well I did find some stuff on it, but as I mentioned, duplexers 
and the
  cavities are all new to me, as I have never done them myself, as 
the set I
  have on the 2 meter repeater was tuned for me when I bought them, 
and the
  440 was done better than 15 yrs ago.  But that is what I thought, 
but from
  reading the information on the duplexers, as in RX kills TX and 
  vica-versa,
  thought I had better ask.  Thanks for the help.
 
  Mathew
 
 







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)

2004-12-27 Thread albemarle7



Eric,
 Thank you for the explanation of the TWPC-4508-2 bandpass filter and its application. This is the way people like me who have been playing with this stuff gets straight info on how things really work without spending wasted hours at the repeater site. 
 I thought this filter could be hooked either as a pass or notch cavity. The FM broadcast station is very close to my 2 meter repeater antenna. I thought proper approach would be put FM TWPC-1005-1 cavity in my Rx side of my duplexer to notch out FM station. Or, should I put a DCI filter in line someplace. Or add a pass cavity on Rx side. What happens to the RF rejection on a filter such as a DCI for 2 meters when the freq you want to reject is say 46.205 mhz away from 2 meter repeater input. How much attenuation does a filter such as a DCI provide at these far away freqs? I don't want to be boring for those who are in the know. But I am aware there is a lot of good knowledge here. Not everyone tuned into this reflector is an expert. That's why many are here to help us guys learn. 
Thanks,
Gary K2UQ














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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)

2004-12-27 Thread Tony King - W4ZT




Gary,

You can see the specs including curves etc for the DCI filters at
http://www.dci.ca/?Section=Amateur
and they should answer your questions about them.

73, Tony W4ZT


At 11:00 PM 12/26/2004, you wrote:
Eric,
 Thank you for the explanation of the
TWPC-4508-2 bandpass filter and its application. This is the way
people like me who have been playing with this stuff gets straight info
on how things really work without spending wasted hours at the repeater
site. 
 I thought this filter could be
hooked either as a pass or notch cavity. The FM broadcast station
is very close to my 2 meter repeater antenna. I thought proper
approach would be put FM TWPC-1005-1 cavity in my Rx side of my duplexer
to notch out FM station. Or, should I put a DCI filter in line someplace.
Or add a pass cavity on Rx side. What happens to the RF rejection
on a filter such as a DCI for 2 meters when the freq you want to reject
is say 46.205 mhz away from 2 meter repeater input. How much attenuation
does a filter such as a DCI provide at these far away freqs? I
don't want to be boring for those who are in the know. But I am aware
there is a lot of good knowledge here. Not everyone tuned into this
reflector is an expert. That's why many are here to help us guys
learn. 
Thanks,
Gary K2UQ








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)

2004-12-27 Thread Eric Lemmon

Gary,

You're welcome!

While it is possible to convert a bandpass cavity into a notch cavity by
changing the coupling loop(s), it is always better to engineer the
system with the proper components.  So, put the TWPC-1005-1 cavity on
the shelf for now, because it's not going to do anything for this
problem.

That said, in this particular case, it might be instructive (and
possibly productive) to try the DCI filter in the receive side, between
the duplexer RX connector and the receiver input.  I have just scoped a
DCI 146-4H on my network analyzer and found that it has a flat passband
between 144-148 MHz with about 0.6 dB insertion loss, and about -109 dB
response between 88 and 108 MHz.  If you have double-shielded cable and
good connectors between the DCI filter and the receiver, it might just
work.  It's certainly worth the effort to try.  I'd be a lot happier if
it had N connectors instead of SO-239s!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


--- Gary K2UQ wrote---

Eric,

Thank you for the explanation of the TWPC-4508-2 bandpass filter and its
application.  This is the way people like me who have been playing with
this stuff gets straight info on how things really work without spending
wasted hours at the repeater site.
 
I thought this filter could be hooked either as a pass or notch cavity. 
The FM broadcast station is very close to my 2 meter repeater antenna. 
I thought proper approach would be put FM TWPC-1005-1 cavity in the Rx
side of my duplexer to notch out FM station. Or, should I put a DCI
filter in line someplace. Or add a pass cavity on Rx side.  What happens
to the RF rejection on a filter such as a DCI for 2 meters when the freq
you want to reject is say 46.205 MHz away from 2 meter repeater input.
How much attenuation does a filter such as a DCI provide at these far
away freqs?  I don't want to be boring for those who are in the know.
But I am aware there is a lot of good knowledge here. Not everyone tuned
into this reflector is an expert. That's why many are here to help
us guys learn. 

Thanks,
Gary  K2UQ




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Kevin Berlen

I have read several replies to this post, and have seen one of the heavy 
hitters
when it comes to repeater controllers go unmentioned. S-Com industries, IMHO,
builds one of the best products that money can buy. We have had multiple 5K 
and
7K controllers on the air for 10+ years without a single failure or 
software glitch - ever.
If you put the new Vyex DAB with the 7K, you have a controller that is 
truly hard
to beat. I have no connection to S-Com, other than being a very satisified
customer. 73,

Kevin, K9HX






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Back up battery

2004-12-27 Thread Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR

I use 12 volt 32AH (lead acid)batts from the scooter and thay work 
great thay are sealed so no probs with spills 

go to your local bat shop and ask them I got mine for $100 
if you don't tell them you are not use'n them for a scooter thay 
should not charge you tax 

Rick

On 27 Dec 2004 at 13:36, drwoolweaver wrote:

 
 
 Anyone have experience with gel cell batteries made for the popular
 electric scooters? I found a 12VDC 12aH deep discharge battery for
 $16.50 shipped. Comments?  de David 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR
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[Repeater-Builder] Back up battery A MUST READ

2004-12-27 Thread Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR

Thank you for that info !!

here is a link to the bat .

http://www.powerfactorinc.com/Batteries/dg12-32jh.htm
this batt is a AGM .. type 

and yes every one should read this 

http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html

thank you for passing such good info along

Rick



On 27 Dec 2004 at 10:57, Cecil Ferguson wrote:

 Fine response, Rick, but why not go to  www.batterystuff.com/ and
 take a look at their offerings, prices.  Also, while there, take a
 look at their tutorial, you may appreciate it.
 
 73
 Gene, W4FWG
 *
 
 Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR wrote:
 
 I use 12 volt 32AH (lead acid)batts from the scooter and thay work
 great thay are sealed so no probs with spills 
 
 go to your local bat shop and ask them I got mine for $100 
 if you don't tell them you are not use'n them for a scooter thay
 should not charge you tax 
 
 Rick
 
 On 27 Dec 2004 at 13:36, drwoolweaver wrote:
 
   
 
 Anyone have experience with gel cell batteries made for the popular
 electric scooters? I found a 12VDC 12aH deep discharge battery for
 $16.50 shipped. Comments?  de David 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Back up battery

2004-12-27 Thread Cecil Ferguson







Fine response, Rick, but why not go to  www.batterystuff.com/ and
take a look at their offerings, prices. Also, while there, take a look at
their tutorial, you may appreciate it.

73
Gene, W4FWG
*

Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR wrote:

  I use 12 volt 32AH (lead acid)batts from the scooter and thay work 
great thay are sealed so no probs with spills 

go to your local bat shop and ask them I got mine for $100 
if you don't tell them you are not use'n them for a scooter thay 
should not charge you tax 

Rick

On 27 Dec 2004 at 13:36, drwoolweaver wrote:

  
  

Anyone have experience with gel cell batteries made for the popular
electric scooters? I found a 12VDC 12aH deep discharge battery for
$16.50 shipped. Comments?  de David 








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Talking Clock

2004-12-27 Thread Tony King - W4ZT

My original post carried the correct URL for the Speaking Clock:
http://www.lux-aeterna.com/clock/

73, Tony W4ZT


At 12:22 PM 12/27/2004, you wrote:

It would be good to list the correct link as I tried the one listed and got
no place.
thanks


- Original Message -
From: Larry Lockard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Talking Clock


 
  Hi Mark,
 
  Just thought you might like to know I just downloaded the Speaking
  Clock
  from the link
  that Tony posted and it runs fine on my XP (SP2) system.  The download was
  a
  bit of a challenge as it kept directing me to a download for Sticky
  Notes however finally from the mirror in Canada (alberta) came the
  right
  file named spcl25.zip  size is  915 K. This version of the program even
  allows you download additional voices for different languages plus male
  and
  female voices.
 
  Perhaps your original download had a bug ??
 
  If you can't get the download link to work correctly send a note and I
  will
  forward you a copy.
 
  Larry
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Talking Clock
 
 
 
  It seems that I tried to download it WIN XP SP II does not reconize it
  said
  invalid handle.
 
 
 
  Mark Holman  AB8RU
  ***  IT Student *
  Happy Holidays
  - Original Message -
  From: Tony King - W4ZT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Talking Clock
 
 
 
  The Speaking Clock works pretty good and is available as FREEware
  here:
  http://www.lux-aeterna.com/clock/
 
  73, Tony W4ZT
 
  At 01:12 AM 12/23/2004, you wrote:
 
 Can anyone tell Me of  A Software Talking Clock program , I had a old
 radio
 Shack one that I had modified yrs ago on the repeater and it went bad
 and
 it
 is no longer made.
 
 Thanks Don
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)

2004-12-27 Thread albemarle7



Eric,
 Thank you for the information. I shall try in the very near future. God info !!
Gary K2UQ














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Re: [Repeater-Builder] fiplex duplexers

2004-12-27 Thread Bob Dengler

At 12/22/2004 08:37 PM, you wrote:

Hey guys,
anyone ever heard of fiplex duplexers?

Yes

I've never heard of these things.  They any good?
Thanks,
Jed

I found one at the Rochester hamfest a few years ago.  It was a wide split 
(26 MHz I believe) model but it came in handy for combining a 420 link TX  
440/445 MHz repeater all onto one antenna.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retune Phoenix

2004-12-27 Thread Jim B.

k0jxi wrote:

 
 What is the lowest possible frequency that one could expect to retune 
 a 450 to 470 SX Phoenix and keep it stable with usuable sensitivity on 
 the rx?  What I am wanting to do is get one down to the 421 to 425 
 range.
 
 What about a MVS to do the same?
 
 Thanks, Dale K0JXI

Not gonna do it. I had trouble getting one down to 440. Receive 
sensitivity started falling off down there, maybe .4 I think?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Jim B.

Richard wrote:

 I'm not sure why it would take you hours to load and download the info -
 what do you mean by that? I program several RLC4s and an RLC3 and yes, there
 is a learning curve, but if you sit down for an hour or so with the manual
 it isn't really all that bad.
 
 The files I use to program the controllers contain anywhere from 10-30
 macros, plus all the timers, IDs, command prefix, and the other stuff I put
 in it, and it only takes three or four minutes to transfer it to the
 controller.

Pulling the programming out of the RLC-3 using the RS-232 port takes 
several hours because of the slow baud rate used.
Only 10-30 macros? One guy printed out the programming he downloaded 
from our clubs RLC-3-it made a stack of paper 2-3 inches thick!
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Richard W. Solomon

Try programming DE W1KSZ/R in a NHRC-2.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:25 PM
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Richard W. Solomon wrote:
 I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
 but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
 to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
 But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
 Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ 

What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham 
controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
-- 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread DCFluX

Buy a new radio. What are you using?  Sounds like a Motorola HT-220
with a 12 digit keypad added on.


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:36:45 -0500, Richard W. Solomon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Try programming DE W1KSZ/R in a NHRC-2.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:25 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
 
 Richard W. Solomon wrote:
  I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
  but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
  to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
  But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
  Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
 
  73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
 What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham
 controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
 --
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moto GM300 - Deviation Control vs Limiting

2004-12-27 Thread Jim B.

Eric Lemmon wrote:

 Joe,
 
 I certainly agree that all makers SHOULD do this, but the Kenwood TK-350
 portables used by my local police department mix the tones in with the
 mike audio, upstream of the limiter.  I've had to tweak the deviation on
 every radio I test.  I guess Kenwood just wasn't thinking, during the
 TK-350 design phase...
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

The last shop I worked for supplied 50-60 or more TK350's to a local mfg 
plant, using MII's and later TKR-820's, with one RCA 1000 rptr for a 
while. There was never any problem like you're describing.
But looking at my book, you're right. Tone is applied to pin 6 of IC207, 
which is the mic limiter.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1500 manual

2004-12-27 Thread Bob Dengler

At 12/25/2004 04:44 PM, you wrote:

Gary,

When I needed a service manual for my IFR1200 service monitor, I first
got a quote of $135 from a local document reproduction firm, which has
the special equipment to copy the long foldouts in the manual.  However,
I found that IFR would sell me a complete service manual, binder and
all, for just $125.

How long ago was this?  I'm looking for a service manual for the A-7550 
spectrum analyzer; Aeroflex wants $540 for it!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Jim B.

Richard W. Solomon wrote:
 I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
 but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
 to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
 But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
 Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ 

What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham 
controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
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WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread DCFluX

You better grow your self one.


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:10:59 -0500, Richard W. Solomon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I guess you guys weren't following the thread that closely.
 Programming an NHRC-2 on a 902 repeater using a GTX.
 Unless you know of a 902 HT with a 16 button pad ??
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
 -Original Message-
 From: DCFluX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:49 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
 
 Buy a new radio. What are you using?  Sounds like a Motorola HT-220
 with a 12 digit keypad added on.
 
 On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:36:45 -0500, Richard W. Solomon
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Try programming DE W1KSZ/R in a NHRC-2.
 
  73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:25 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
 
  Richard W. Solomon wrote:
   I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
   but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
   to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
   But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
   Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
  
   73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
  What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham
  controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
  --
  Jim Barbour
  WD8CHL
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Jim B.

Kevin Berlen wrote:

 I have read several replies to this post, and have seen one of the heavy 
 hitters
 when it comes to repeater controllers go unmentioned. S-Com industries, IMHO,
 builds one of the best products that money can buy. We have had multiple 5K 
 and
 7K controllers on the air for 10+ years without a single failure or 
 software glitch - ever.
 If you put the new Vyex DAB with the 7K, you have a controller that is 
 truly hard
 to beat. I have no connection to S-Com, other than being a very satisified
 customer. 73,
 
 Kevin, K9HX

I was about to say the same thing.  The 7K, while a bit more expensive 
then what the original poster is likely looking for (but still much 
cheaper then Link), it is by far the most flexible and reliable 
controller out there right now.
And they have a new one coming soon!

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL
(and no, I don't have any connenction to them other than I own a 6K, and 
  am heavily involved in rptrs with a 5K and a 7K, all of which have 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Joe

--- Kevin Berlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have had multiple 5K and 7K controllers on the
air  for 10+ years without a single failure or
software 
 glitch - ever.

I have to agree, I have had a 5K and a 6K on the air
for many years now and never, never had a glitch or
failure.  It has to be one of the most stable and
reliable controllers on the market.  The only fault I
can find is that there is no RS-232 port to talk to
it.  Programming has to be done via Touch-Tone
command.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moto GM300 - Deviation Control vs Limiting

2004-12-27 Thread Joe Montierth


--- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The last shop I worked for supplied 50-60 or more
 TK350's to a local mfg 
 plant, using MII's and later TKR-820's, with one RCA
 1000 rptr for a 
 while. There was never any problem like you're
 describing.
 But looking at my book, you're right. Tone is
 applied to pin 6 of IC207, 
 which is the mic limiter.
 
 -- 
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL
 
 
 

But that's not subaudible tone, I think it's tone
burst or DTMF.

PL tone is applied to pin 6 of IC 201, the buffer amp-
the last thing before the modulator. This is several
stages after the limiter.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Neil McKie


  12 button keypad?  Those are so new! 

  I have a couple of 10 button keypads in the garage 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


DCFluX wrote:
 
 Buy a new radio. What are you using?  Sounds like a 
 Motorola HT-220 with a 12 digit keypad added on. 
 
 On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:36:45 -0500, Richard W. Solomon
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Try programming DE W1KSZ/R in a NHRC-2.
 
  73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:25 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
 
  Richard W. Solomon wrote:
   I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
   but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
   to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
   But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
   Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
  
   73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
  What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham
  controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
  --
  Jim Barbour
  WD8CHL
 
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