[Repeater-Builder] 222 duplexers

2005-08-14 Thread pmci1
Hello.
I am in need of 222 mhz duplexers. If you can help thanks.
Bill
WD2E









 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 222 duplexers

2005-08-14 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bill,

One of the few sources for a 222 MHz duplexer at a reasonable price is
Telewave.  Licensed Amateurs get 30% off the regular price, which means
you can get a TPRD-2254 duplexer for about $786.  I have one of these
duplexers in service now, and am completely satisfied with its
performance.  My standard financial nonaffiliation disclaimer applies.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

pmci1 wrote:

 Hello.
 I am in need of 222 MHz duplexers. If you can help thanks.
 Bill
 WD2E


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 222 duplexers

2005-08-14 Thread skipp025
I have an equivalent 224 MHz Wacomm duplexer in 
excellent condition, which I'll sell for less 
than half the below amount.  Email me direct if 
you're interested. 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

 Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill,
 
 One of the few sources for a 222 MHz duplexer at a reasonable price is
 Telewave.  Licensed Amateurs get 30% off the regular price, which means
 you can get a TPRD-2254 duplexer for about $786.  I have one of these
 duplexers in service now, and am completely satisfied with its
 performance.  My standard financial nonaffiliation disclaimer applies.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
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  Hello.
  I am in need of 222 MHz duplexers. If you can help thanks.
  Bill
  WD2E
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 222 duplexers

2005-08-14 Thread Russ Stafford
I have a 4 can WACO that is extra to your system.
Please contact me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED]
very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 222 duplexers


 Hello.
 I am in need of 222 mhz duplexers. If you can help thanks.
 Bill
 WD2E







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Configuration Question

2005-08-14 Thread Coy Hilton
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Thanks Skipp and Paul for input so far- I suspected that this 
would be a
 bit marginal.  However, we're only running 40 watts, and the rx
 selectivity seems pretty good.  It's an older Motorola, and it has 
4
 small cavity filters at the input of the rx inside the box.  
Running 600
 kHz split with 2 antennas now, and I can find spots for the rx 
antenna
 in which the system works OK for local communications.
 
 To Skipp's question, the old cavities have tee connectors attached
 direct to the ports, and they are all SO-239.
 
 With cascaded hybrid ring pass filters on the rx, and just a notch 
can
 teed into the tx side set to rx frequency, maybe it'll go.  Paul, 
when
 you say capping the other port, do you mean shorting it or 
leaving
 open, or with stub or what?

Capping, in this case, normally means removing the loop and put a 
covering over the opening.
Also, to get the deepest, sharpest notch use the lowest insertion 
loss setting on the can.
 
This will make a great Notch cavity. By the way, the can in this 
cinfiguration is a tunable open quarter wave stub. By coaxial 
theory, that means, what ever frequency that the stub is tuned for 
looks to be a short at that frequency...oh the same stub, if  
shorted, would appear to be open at the same frequency.  




 
 And, if these old cans are single port, no shunt Ls or Cs, does 
this
 mean they will notch as-is or will they need external help?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Kelley
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:28 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Configuration Question
 
 
  No piston trimmer that I can see, unless it's inside the
  can across the loop.  I was thinking of cracking one open
  to find out.  Anyway, though, it would have to be
  adjustable to peak up the cavity, so why would they hide
  it in there?
 
 No, they wouldn't be hidden inside.  Just checking.
 
  On the ring duplexer, it supposedly just inverts the
  notch of the can into an equally sharp bandpassby
  making a steep cut away from the rx frequency, it should
  hold off the tx to some extentright?
 
 Well, it'll keep the transmitter carrier out of the 
 receiver, at least to a degree.  But you also need to knock 
 down the noise generated by the transmitter on the receive 
 frequency.  If this is to be a 600 kHz split system, you 
 probably need to attenuate that noise 60 dB or so... 
 perhaps less, probably more, depending on the particular 
 transmitter, receiver, etc.  With cavities only on the RX 
 side you'll have no protection from the noise and a LOT of 
 desense.
 
  As I said, I have one additional can now, with two ports in/out, 
so 
  I'll throw that one in the tx lead to make a 3-can setup.  If 
this 
  sounds all wet, please let me in on the right answer.
 
 If you mean just inserting a pass cavity into the TX lead, 
 it won't give you nearly enough protection from the noise 
 on your RX freq.  I'd suggest making another hybrid ring 
 for the TX side with this cavity used as a notch cavity.  
 Most pass cavities work fine as a notch by capping one 
 connector and just using the other.  A hybrid ring duplexer 
 with two cavities on the RX  and one on the TX just might 
 do it, although it'll be a bit marginal on the TX side.  As 
 I understand it, you'll need to construct 3 rings, one for 
 each cavity.
 
 Hopefully someone with real experience with the hybrid ring 
 will jump in here and help you out!
 
 Paul,  N1BUG
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: FIxed audio and carrier detect - Midland 70-1630B

2005-08-14 Thread Coy Hilton
First, try and get a service manual this will go a long way twords 
getting you where you want to be. Look for the buffered detecter 
signal. The rest will likely be easy for you. 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Alexander 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've been lucky to be given a number of Midland XTR (70-1630B UHF) 
99 Ch
 Remote Head radios, and was thinking of using some for repeaters.
 
 Has anyone got experience of getting a fixed level audio source 
(non-de
 emph'd or d emph'd it doesn't matter) from the radio (can't get it 
at the
 head, the volume control doesn't have audio on it), and a Carrier 
Detect
 signal, ie valid PL + Carrier.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Mal
 VK2YVA
 Sydney Australia







 
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[Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


HELLO ALL
I need a little help on a project,we have 2UhfRitron repeaters,one is2.5 watt (461.2125)and#2is about 6 watts (461.4125)and oneyeasu 25 watt 464.4625.The 2.5 watthas degraded over the years(15 year old repeater)I can not convince thesupervisor that there is a problem with the repeater (drifting slightly off freq and intermod from the co located repeaters). Anyway these are in close quarters within 3 feet of each other on the wall and the antennas are within a 25 foot radius of each other.I am planning to use 2 maxtracs, a rick box, and a cellwave flat pack (mobile duplexer) as a replacement for the ritron 2.5 watt radio to show them that the repeater needs replacement.
Now with the .4125 6- watt ritronrepeater using the same pl tone 200 khzaway from whereI will place the maxtrac repeater dose anyone see any intermod, front end overload, or signal rejection problems that the maxtrac's ? 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob,

Use different PL tones on those repeaters.  A lot of problems can occur
when tones are the same on co-located radios, even when they operate on
different bands.  Preselectors might help solve the interference
problem.  Been there...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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 HELLO ALL

 I need a little help on a project, we have 2 Uhf Ritron repeaters, one
 is 2.5 watt (461.2125) and #2 is about 6 watts (461.4125) and one
 yeasu 25 watt 464.4625. The 2.5 watt has degraded over the years (15
 year old repeater) I can not convince the supervisor that there is a
 problem with the repeater (drifting slightly off freq and intermod
 from the co located repeaters). Anyway these are in close quarters
 within 3 feet of each other on the wall and the antennas are within a
 25 foot radius of each other. I am planning to use 2 maxtracs, a rick
 box, and a cellwave flat pack (mobile duplexer) as a replacement for
 the ritron 2.5 watt radio to show them that the repeater needs
 replacement.

  Now with the .4125  6- watt ritron repeater using the same pl tone
 200 khz away from where I will place the maxtrac repeater dose anyone
 see any intermod, front end overload, or signal rejection problems
 that the maxtrac's  ?

 thanks .bob







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread Maire-Radios





are all your Freg licensed 
for 2 watts or some for higher power I don't have my list to see if any of 
them are above that? Are they all 12.5 channels? 

Are any of they set up for 
25k?

thanks



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  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER 
  INTERMOD
  
  HELLO ALL
  I need a little help on a project,we have 2UhfRitron 
  repeaters,one is2.5 watt (461.2125)and#2is about 
  6 watts (461.4125)and oneyeasu 25 watt 464.4625.The 2.5 
  watthas degraded over the years(15 year old repeater)I can 
  not convince thesupervisor that there is a problem with the repeater 
  (drifting slightly off freq and intermod from the co located repeaters). 
  Anyway these are in close quarters within 3 feet of each other on the wall and 
  the antennas are within a 25 foot radius of each other.I am planning to 
  use 2 maxtracs, a rick box, and a cellwave flat pack (mobile duplexer) as a 
  replacement for the ritron 2.5 watt radio to show them that the repeater needs 
  replacement.
  Now with the .4125 6- watt ritronrepeater using the same 
  pl tone 200 khzaway from whereI will place the maxtrac repeater 
  dose anyone see any intermod, front end overload, or signal rejection problems 
  that the maxtrac's ? 
  thanks .bob
  













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks Eric 
I wish I could change the pl tone, but with 45 + radios in the fleet it is a bit hard.
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[Repeater-Builder] .monitoring repeater site.. slightly OT

2005-08-14 Thread Coy Hilton
I have a Momentum TSX PLC that has a 8 channel analog input. Anyone 
know how to program it or have the software..or any thing NOT on their 
site?







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


they all are licenced2 watt channels andwereoriginally15kof3e, possibly 12kof3e now with the last renewal.I dont know what the vendor did when they installed the yaesu repeaterbutI want tocheck it. Both ritrons should be putting out2 watts butI know they made 2 different models.













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread Maire-Radios





what about the 25 watts in 
the 3rd one?

Look at the Kenwood 
TKR-840 a high end repeater but worth the cost


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  they all are licenced2 watt channels 
  andwereoriginally15kof3e, possibly 12kof3e now with the last 
  renewal.I dont know what the vendor did when they installed the yaesu 
  repeaterbutI want tocheck it. Both ritrons should be 
  putting out2 watts butI know they made 2 different models. 













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish I could change the pl tone, but with 45 + radios in the fleet it 
 is a bit hard. bob

Not as bad as 450, or 4500 radios.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPEATER INTERMOD

2005-08-14 Thread Maire-Radios
what kind of units?

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 On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish I could change the pl tone, but with 45 + radios in the fleet it 
 is a bit hard. bob
 
 Not as bad as 450, or 4500 radios.
 
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[Repeater-Builder] MASTR II Repeater NHRC 2 and TS-64 installation

2005-08-14 Thread k4tdo
Hey gang, I have a MASTR II UHF repeater (not a converted mobile or a
station) We am going to use it for a Hub/Link repeater for our Linked 
220 system. I have built an NHRC II controler from a kit(less
than $60.00). I have the controller wired to the station, programmed 
and all my audio levels set and it's working just fine.
I have a ComSpec TS-64DS CTCSS board. And the Made for GE MASTR II TS-
64DS MII. I need to intergrate one of these into the repeater. I need 
it to TX Tone only when COR is present. This is so the CW ID of the 
controller (Hub repeater)want go out over our 6 220 repeaters.
Anyone have a neat way of wireing the TS-64 into my mix?

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