[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: PL decoders

2007-06-05 Thread n1ofj
i am looking for 2 Motorola TRN6083A PL decoders for a project I am 
working on.  I just need the modules as I have the necessary 
Vibrasponders already. Thanks,
Dave N1OFJ



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Chassis mount so-239 with hood?

2007-06-05 Thread Dan
what I need to make is a longer jumper for a mastr II mobile that I 
have converted to repeater service. I am doing the remove the keylock 
and replace thing and the current jumper is not only too short but 
was badly assembled. The RCA end is a mess. I had a heck of a time 
finding a good right angle RCA to start with and now I need to make 
the other end. I really dont care if it has the hood as long as I can 
get a good clean cable made that will fit into the hole and tighten 
down.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Dan


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Dan,
 
 Are you making up jumpers in the literal sense, or do you actually 
need a
 bulkhead-mount UHF female on one end?  If the latter, I suggest 
using a UHF
 female bulkhead connector that crimps right to the cable.  That 
way, you can
 take full advantage of the shielding afforded by the RG-400/U 
cable, without
 the leakage of a hood.  Ideally, the jumpers in a station cabinet 
should be
 point-to-point without any barrels, adapters, or couplings.
 
 However, if you really must have the hood, they are available from 
Mouser.
 See Item V on this page:
 
 www.mouser.com/catalog/630/954.pdf
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
 Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:17 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Chassis mount so-239 with hood?
 
 Anyone know of a source for these darn things? I want to make up 
some 
 jumpers. I have the RG-400 coax but I cant seem to find any so-
239's 
 with the metal hood over the back! Any ideas?
 Thanks for your time!
 
 Dan/NØFPE





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: PL decoders

2007-06-05 Thread Bob M.
As a follow-up, these are the boards that plug into a
SpectraTAC receiver chassis.

Bob M.
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--- n1ofj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i am looking for 2 Motorola TRN6083A PL decoders for
 a project I am 
 working on.  I just need the modules as I have the
 necessary 
 Vibrasponders already. Thanks,
 Dave N1OFJ


 

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[Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Oliver
Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base  it is 150' 
overall.  Any help would be appreciated.


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg


thanks

tom


Thomas Oliver
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Do Anyone Use Their Repeater For This

2007-06-05 Thread Jim
 At 12:11 AM 5/31/2007 +, you wrote:
 Does anyone out there that is using their repeater to support
 emergency operations, have it setup to also send out a page to pagers
 that emergency operators may have.

 Here is what we want to do, we wish to obtain some 2 meter voice
 pagers, Minitors or similar, like those used by most volunteer fire
 departments, and set them to receive on the same frequency as our
 repeater, when they receive a proper 2 tone signal from the repeater.

We found the same thing as Joe-no one wanted to carry the pager and a 
handheld all the time for too long. The novelty wore off after a couple 
years. (We used PageboyII's back in the 80's.)
What we wound up with, however, is a bunch of Plectron's on the repeater 
output at key locations around the county, dispatch centers, sheriff, 
911, etc. We can set them off for Skywarn alerts or EMA responses.
That has served us well for a long time.
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower

2007-06-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
Hi Tom, that is a Pirod tower made here in Plymouth Indiana.  The top has been 
modified.  There should be a 3 digit number along one of the legs, and possibly 
a plate near the bottom.  The bolts that goes into the ground is about $140.00 
a piece.  You will find them here..

http://www.valmont.com/asp/communication/specialty_structures/asp/pirod.asp

Mathew


Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base  it is 150' 
overall.  Any help would be appreciated.
  
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg
  
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg
  
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg
  
  
 thanks
  
 tom
  
  
 Thomas Oliver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Oliver
I have been in contact with them and they could not supply me a drawing without 
original owners name location age and serial number none of witch I knew.  I 
can't believe they don't have a stock drawing for that series of tower.

Any other suggestions?

I really need to know what goes in the ground and what sticks out of the 
cement.  I don't want to guess.


tom


- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Quaife 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 6/5/2007 11:06:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower


Hi Tom, that is a Pirod tower made here in Plymouth Indiana.  The top has been 
modified.  There should be a 3 digit number along one of the legs, and possibly 
a plate near the bottom.  The bolts that goes into the ground is about $140.00 
a piece.  You will find them here..

http://www.valmont.com/asp/communication/specialty_structures/asp/pirod.asp

Mathew


Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base  it is 150' 
overall.  Any help would be appreciated.


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg


thanks

tom


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[Repeater-Builder] Needed: R-1801 suitcase adapters.

2007-06-05 Thread T.J.
I have some MSF 5000 repeaters that require the R-1801 suitcase programmer that 
I need to reprogram. I have the R-1801 and the MSF firmware, but I don't have 
the RTL-5817 adapter for the MSF proms. The RTL-5817 adapter for the MSF proms 
seems to have been misplaced or sprouted legs and walked off. Somehow I have 
acquired two RTL-5825 adapters (but I only need one), and a RTL-5818 adapter. 
Can anyone tell me if either of those adapters would work for the MSF 5000 
Proms? Or I would also be willing to sacrifice one of the RTL-5825 adapters to 
make it into the RTL-5817 adapter if anyone has the (schematic) info on doing 
that. Or I would trade for one if anyone has an extra RTL-5817 adapter. I also 
have the RTL-5805 adapter for the MX series proms, which I don't need anymore, 
because I got rid of all my MX series radios. If anyone is interested in that 
adapter for a trade please let me know.  I could also use one of the RTL-5815 
adapters for the SyntorX EEPROMs, but I don't need
 one like I do the one for the MSF.
 
 Thanks, T.J.
 
 PS also if anyone has a copy of the MSF programming manual I could use a copy. 
It's been years since I programmed the last Prom MSF 5K and the brain has 
forgotten the procedure for all the options on that program.

[Repeater-Builder] FYI-

2007-06-05 Thread Jim
a stack of VHF MastrII stations will be going up on ebay very soon...not 
from me tho...but keep your eyes peeled...theres a couple of aux rx's in 
there too...
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower

2007-06-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
The bolts on my tower which is 120' has six bolts.  Each bolt was 48, of which 
40 went into the concrete.  The tower is about 4 from the ground.  Measure 
the bottom plate, if it is under 4, then you would not want the tower to be 
more than 2 from the concrete.  My base plates are 6 x 8 and was recommended 
to be 4 from the concrete.

In the early days of Pirod, they numbered the towers only by stock numbers, all 
the other information went with the owner of the tower.  After some time they 
started putting plates on their towers which would give them the information of 
where the tower was placed, all the information about it, etc

We have two pirod towers, one was a 100' and the other a 120' tower.  The 100' 
had the plate, it was only about 10 years old when I got it 3 years ago.  The 
120' tower was over 20 years old, and there was no plate information on it.

Call them back, ask them for a description of a typical tower at 150' with a 
leg spread of I think it was 52.  Tell them you are not looking for 
engineering, just simple guide lines.  I can't remember the lady I spoke to, I 
think her name was Marilyn, or something along those lines.  She was very 
helpful.

Mathew


Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been in contact with them and they could not supply me a drawing 
without original owners name location age and serial number none of witch I 
knew.  I can't believe they don't have a stock drawing for that series of tower.
  
 Any other suggestions?
  
 I really need to know what goes in the ground and what sticks out of the 
cement.  I don't want to guess.
  
  
 tom
  
 

  
  - Original Message - 
 From: Mathew Quaife 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: 6/5/2007 11:06:20 AM 
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower
 

Hi Tom, that is a Pirod tower made here in Plymouth Indiana.  The top has been 
modified.  There should be a 3 digit number along one of the legs, and possibly 
a plate near the bottom.  The bolts that goes into the ground is about $140.00 
a piece.  You will find them here..

http://www.valmont.com/asp/communication/specialty_structures/asp/pirod.asp

Mathew


Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 
 Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing for the base  it is 150' 
overall.  Any help would be appreciated.
  
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010155.jpg
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010154.jpg
  
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010148.jpg
  
  
 http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/n8ies/P1010145.jpg
  
  
 thanks
  
 tom
  
  
 Thomas Oliver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Repeater-Builder] Looking for RG-214

2007-06-05 Thread Ryan
Hi Group,

I am looking for about 20-30 of RG-214 Coax and also Looking for a 
female So-239 T connector Perfer Amphanol or King.


Thanks,
Ryan n3ssl



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help ID this tower

2007-06-05 Thread Max Slover
Since someone did identify this as Pirod tower...

Don't know if this will help but I found spec sheets
from the Pirod catalog at this site. 

http://www.risatech.com/risatower.asp

The file is a self extracting zip that has pdf's from
their catalog. Includes the tower bases and other
tower products. 

Max...

--- Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Need to ID this tower and get an engeneering drawing
 for the base  it is 150' overall.  Any help would be
 appreciated.
 
 


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K0AZV - Amateur
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St. Ann MO EM48tr


Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread George Henry
In order not to start a rules  regulations thread  can anyone point me 
to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to 
automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio?  I know 
that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly against 
it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver) 
is causing an amateur radio station to transmit...  similar to the argument 
against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams.

Either a link to an FCC opinion or discussion off-list, please.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


- Original Message - 
From: Ralph Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?


 Hi Mike,

 As far as I know, morris softronics has nothing to do with midland radios,
 'midlands' is just part of their domain name.

 Their SAME decoder board allows insertion of any radios audio source, in 
 my
 case a GE M2 voter rx on 162.4. I know its a little over kill, but hey the
 rx works good in a high IM site :) It has a couple of control bits to and
 from the card for wx alert status and on/off over-ride control of the wx
 audio. Those tie into your repeater controller of choice. Its serially
 rs-232 programmed for the SAME codes of interest.

 73's Ralph W4XE




RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread Daron J. Wilson
In order not to start a rules  regulations thread can anyone point me 
to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to 
automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio? I know 
that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly
against 
it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver) 
is causing an amateur radio station to transmit... similar to the argument 
against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams.

I posed this question to Riley Hollingsworth via email, his response was
that it could not be done automatically, but rather the rebroadcast had to
be done by a control operator.

We do it automagically while a control operator monitors it.  I figure it's
close enough.

73



Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Morris
I nailed that coffin shut with the writeup on the www.repeater-builder.com
Radio Shack page.

Mike WA6ILQ


At 04:19 PM 06/05/07, you wrote:
In order not to start a rules  regulations thread  can anyone point me
to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to
automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio?  I know
that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly against
it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver)
is causing an amateur radio station to transmit...  similar to the argument
against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams.

Either a link to an FCC opinion or discussion off-list, please.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


- Original Message -
From: Ralph Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?


  Hi Mike,
 
  As far as I know, morris softronics has nothing to do with midland radios,
  'midlands' is just part of their domain name.
 
  Their SAME decoder board allows insertion of any radios audio source, in
  my
  case a GE M2 voter rx on 162.4. I know its a little over kill, but hey the
  rx works good in a high IM site :) It has a couple of control bits to and
  from the card for wx alert status and on/off over-ride control of the wx
  audio. Those tie into your repeater controller of choice. Its serially
  rs-232 programmed for the SAME codes of interest.
 
  73's Ralph W4XE
 






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 04:36 PM 06/05/07, you wrote:
 In order not to start a rules  regulations thread can anyone point me
 to a definitive opinion on the legality of using NWS SAME decoders to
 automatically transmit severe weather bulletins over amateur radio? I know
 that there were divided opinions, with one side coming down strongly
 against
 it, as an unlicensed individual (the NWS employee activating the receiver)
 is causing an amateur radio station to transmit... similar to the argument
 against the use of reverse autopatch by non-hams.

I posed this question to Riley Hollingsworth via email, his response was
that it could not be done automatically, but rather the rebroadcast had to
be done by a control operator.

When was this?

We do it automagically while a control operator monitors it.  I figure it's
close enough.

73
Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In my writeup (posted at
http://www.repeater-builder.com/radio-shack/radio-shack-index.html
I specifically said automatically in my email to Riley on November 
15th 2006.

Riley forwarded my email to Dan Henderson N1ND ARRL Regulatory
Information Specialist,  @ the ARRL, who on the 17th said it was OK
as long as a control op was monitoring and could shut it down if needed.

Dan said it was OK, and as he was speaking for Riley (and I saved
all the emails), it's fine with me.

Hopefully the web page I created answers all the questions. If it doesn't
let me know and I'll email Dan (again).

REMEMBER -

Part 97 is the ONLY section in the FCC rules that say You can't do X.

Every other section - GMRS, Public Safety, CB, Aircraft, etc all say
You can only do X.

Don't give them any opening to say NO.  If you have a good reasonable
reason to do something, do it on a private limited use system at your
house. If it works out, do it (or move it) to an open wide area coverage
system.  That's how the first remote base in the Southern Calif area
got put up in the mid 1950s - first on a garage repeater, then on a
mountaintop. The remote control was a rotary telephone dial pulsing
an audio oscillator. Nobody asked is it legal? They just did it.

Mike WA6ILQ



[Repeater-Builder] flea market special repeater

2007-06-05 Thread skipp025
Re: flea market special repeater  

I picked up a flea market special homebrew UHF Repeater Receiver  
cor board. One of the popular Hamtronics kit Receivers and Cor 2 
Repeater Controller we've talked about many times in this group. 

Every time I get one of these deals home I end up pulling it down 
to rebuild and clean up. Most of the time I end up doing a time 
intensive rebuild that's often more than the equipment is worth. 

Rare does it go back in the original mounting holes drilled with a 
chain-saw aluminum box. I often wonder why some people can build 
kits really well but a proper size drill bit or hole punch is nowhere 
to be found during the board mounting. . 

So this time I told myself to leave the darn thing original and just 
clean it up where needed.  Powered the darn thing up and after a 
check-out and basic alignment it works exactly like it's spec'd to 
do!  

I mated the helical preamp, receiver  cor combo to an Icom 04at ht 
(as the transmitter) with a flat pack mobile uhf duplexer and 
installed an ID O'matic cw ider. I'm into this whole project for 
under $100 and it works pretty killer for what it is. 

    

Fast forward now because we all often have too much time on our 
hands. I actually didn't do the following but we can assume what 
many of you will think of next because we've seen it happen. 

The entire repeater package is working fairly well... but it doesn't 
have a lot of rf power. That darn 04at ht only puts out a few 
watts max on a good day with a tail wind. Hey! Let's make it 
stronger with an external amplifer 

So you series an external amplifier in the transmiter to duplexer 
line and the receiver side chokes up and stops working well... and 
you start to wonder why.  

After fighting with the amplifier addition problem long enough you 
get mad at the equipment and get something else that's often more 
forgiving of your higher power operation sins. 

There was nothing wrong with the kit repeater equipment... just how 
we tend to force things. The original owner of this equipment told 
me pretty much the same story when I bought the box from him. 

cheers, 
s. 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread Eric Lemmon
Your closing comment reminds me of two Rules to Live By I learned in my
22+ year military career:

Rule 1.  Don't ask the question if you're afraid of the answer.
Rule 2.  It is sometimes better to ask for forgiveness afterwards than to
get permission first.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

snip

Don't give them any opening to say NO. If you have a good reasonable
reason to do something, do it on a private limited use system at your
house. If it works out, do it (or move it) to an open wide area coverage
system. That's how the first remote base in the Southern Calif area
got put up in the mid 1950s - first on a garage repeater, then on a
mountaintop. The remote control was a rotary telephone dial pulsing
an audio oscillator. Nobody asked is it legal? They just did it.

Mike WA6ILQ




RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:06 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote:


Rule 1. Don't ask the question if you're afraid of the answer.
Rule 2. It is sometimes better to ask for forgiveness afterwards than to
get permission first.

---True enough! Then again, I try to live my life by 2 other rules:

1) Never share everything you know
2)

Ken
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Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
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we offer complete repeater packages!
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[Repeater-Builder] UHF T-1500 series pass band loops

2007-06-05 Thread n3dab
Looking for 2 to 4 sets of pass band loops for UHF (450-470) Motorola 
T1500 series cavities (2 loops per cavity = 1 set). Anyone have any to 
spare ?  If so furnish quantiy and price per set, if applicable.

Doug  N3DAB   



Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread George Henry

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?


I nailed that coffin shut with the writeup on the www.repeater-builder.com
 Radio Shack page.

 Mike WA6ILQ


Thanks.  That was just what I was looking for (though certainly not where I 
expected to find it!)  Someone locally was trying to say that it came down 
the other way.

George



RE: [Repeater-Builder] NWS SAME Decoder?

2007-06-05 Thread Daron J. Wilson
I posed this question to Riley Hollingsworth via email, his response was
that it could not be done automatically, but rather the rebroadcast had to
be done by a control operator.

When was this?



Well geez I'm sorry, not enough caffeine in my blood system.  I went back
and looked, and the response was similar to what you said, that it was OK to
be automatic as long as the control operator could still control the
machine.  Not sure why I thought it was different, guess I slept too many
times since then.

 

73

 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: IC FR4000

2007-06-05 Thread barrypal
Keep me posted on how the install goes with the Icom.  I am is Seattle
and they are just across the lake.  Also I would like to get in touch
with the fellow that is using the Vertex 7000.  


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Maire-Radios
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to know more how your friend got the 4000 to program in
the ham band.
 
 thanks  John
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Derek 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:40 PM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IC FR4000
 
 
   a friend of mine is using the vertex 7000 450-470 MHz repeater at
   443.225 with no problem and i just ordered a icom FR4000 450-480 MHz
   repeater to use at 444.825.
 
   the seller programmed it for me before shipping and said it was
   putting out 8 watts on low power (all i need since i'm using a PA) and
   nearly 50 watts on high power.
 
   i hope to get the icom installed at the tower site next weekend and
   will let you know how it works.
 
   *DEREK*
   KD4ADL
 
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, barrypal barrypal@ wrote:
   
Anyone running the Icom repeater in the ham bands? This question has
probably come up before buy I couldn't find it. I am considering the
Icom 4000 or Vertex 7000 for my ham repeater. I am running a GE
Mastr
II now. I know they are bullet proof and the audio is great but
weight and space are a consideration in a possible new location. 

Thanks