Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question part 2
At 06:13 PM 1/16/06, you wrote: >I would like to take this topic one step further. now that we know >what to do and use for battery backup ... what are the >recommendations for a solar setup? Where you use the batteries as >your power source. Deepcycle batteries? UPS batteries? > >Rod The folks that can answer that question are at www.homepower.com It's a magazine that caters to the off-the-grid folks, and is run by a ham. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
At 10:33 AM 2006-01-14 -0600, you wrote: >I have in service an Interstate brand 8D-PHD lead acid deep cycle battery that is nine years old and at nearly 80% of its brand-new capacity. How do you know it's at 80% of it's brand-new capacity? > * Regular checks of electrolyte level topped off with distilled water > * Regular specific gravity checks to watch for cell degradation > * Rgular cleaning of the battery case and terminals How often is regular? What do you look for when deciding to clean the case and terminals? >* Semi-annual discharge followed by an equalization charge and then return to float What do you mean by equalization charge? Tony YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] battery question part 2
I would like to take this topic one step further. now that we know what to do and use for battery backup ... what are the recommendations for a solar setup? Where you use the batteries as your power source. Deepcycle batteries? UPS batteries? Rod Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
You will only have the opportunity to deep discharge them maybe 4 to 5 times. Wet electroyte deep cycle batteries are an option at a reasonable price as long as you don't mind the acid. Dave WB2FTX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1/14/2006 01:09, you wrote: The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just don't overcharge them. Dave WB2FTX Given that batteries used in backup service rarely get cycled at all, wouldn't car batteries be a more cost-effective choice? (assuming the gel cels were not a gift) Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
Hi Guys and Girls I use Eastpen Gel Batteries here in OZ and they are the best in + 60 degrees C to - 10 degrees C. I have even used them in cars and with more than 5 years they are cool. You can buy then cheaper than I can they come from the USA. Cheers Brett - Original Message - From: "Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question > NO!Car batteries will sulphate and vent dangerously explosive > hydrogen gas,are meant to be discharged quickly and recharged > immediately and dont last long in backup service.Most site owners > wont allow them to be used. Sealed lead/acid will last 5 to 10 > times longer and are designed for the intended purpose.There is > lots of good info on the web,do a search! 73,Lee > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> At 1/14/2006 01:09, you wrote: >> >>>The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just >>>don't overcharge them. >>> >>>Dave WB2FTX >> >> >> Given that batteries used in backup service rarely get cycled at all, >> wouldn't car batteries be a more cost-effective choice? (assuming the gel >> cels were not a gift) >> >> Bob NO6B > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
Congrats! You have done your homework! And you were rewarded! This is usually the exception,lack of maintenance is the norm. I use both sealed and vented deep cycle batteries with good results,2200AH worth.Automotive batteries have thinner plates and more electrolyte to accomodate short bursts of hundreds of amps for starting,not much good for long light duty standby use. If you get friendly with your local IT pros,they change out UPS batteries every so often,lots of them! Bound to be a few good ones. 73,Lee Doug Zastrow wrote: > I have in service an Interstate brand 8D-PHD lead acid deep cycle > battery that is nine years old and at nearly 80% of its brand-new > capacity. It is in stand-by service on a two-meter repeater. > > I owe its longevity to: > > * Constant float of 13.40 VDC > * Regular checks of electrolyte level topped off with distilled water > * Regular specific gravity checks to watch for cell degradation > * Regular cleaning of the battery case and terminals > * Semi-annual discharge followed by an equalization charge and then > return to float > > The site has an excellent ventilation system so the owner is not > concerned about venting. > > This battery has worked beautifully in my situation. YMMV. > > Doug > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Q <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:10 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question > > NO!Car batteries will sulphate and vent dangerously explosive > hydrogen gas,are meant to be discharged quickly and recharged > immediately and dont last long in backup service.Most site owners > wont allow them to be used. Sealed lead/acid will last 5 to 10 > times longer and are designed for the intended purpose.There is > lots of good info on the web,do a search! 73,Lee > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > At 1/14/2006 01:09, you wrote: > > > >>The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle > capacity. Just > >>don't overcharge them. > >> > >>Dave WB2FTX > > > > > > Given that batteries used in backup service rarely get cycled at > all, > > wouldn't car batteries be a more cost-effective choice? (assuming > the gel > > cels were not a gift) > > > > Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
I have in service an Interstate brand 8D-PHD lead acid deep cycle battery that is nine years old and at nearly 80% of its brand-new capacity. It is in stand-by service on a two-meter repeater. I owe its longevity to: * Constant float of 13.40 VDC * Regular checks of electrolyte level topped off with distilled water * Regular specific gravity checks to watch for cell degradation * Regular cleaning of the battery case and terminals * Semi-annual discharge followed by an equalization charge and then return to float The site has an excellent ventilation system so the owner is not concerned about venting. This battery has worked beautifully in my situation. YMMV. Doug - Original Message - From: Q To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question NO!Car batteries will sulphate and vent dangerously explosive hydrogen gas,are meant to be discharged quickly and recharged immediately and dont last long in backup service.Most site owners wont allow them to be used. Sealed lead/acid will last 5 to 10 times longer and are designed for the intended purpose.There is lots of good info on the web,do a search! 73,Lee[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> At 1/14/2006 01:09, you wrote:> >>The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just>>don't overcharge them.>>>>Dave WB2FTX> > > Given that batteries used in backup service rarely get cycled at all, > wouldn't car batteries be a more cost-effective choice? (assuming the gel > cels were not a gift)> > Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
NO!Car batteries will sulphate and vent dangerously explosive hydrogen gas,are meant to be discharged quickly and recharged immediately and dont last long in backup service.Most site owners wont allow them to be used. Sealed lead/acid will last 5 to 10 times longer and are designed for the intended purpose.There is lots of good info on the web,do a search! 73,Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 1/14/2006 01:09, you wrote: > >>The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just >>don't overcharge them. >> >>Dave WB2FTX > > > Given that batteries used in backup service rarely get cycled at all, > wouldn't car batteries be a more cost-effective choice? (assuming the gel > cels were not a gift) > > Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
At 1/14/2006 01:09, you wrote: >The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just >don't overcharge them. > >Dave WB2FTX Given that batteries used in backup service rarely get cycled at all, wouldn't car batteries be a more cost-effective choice? (assuming the gel cels were not a gift) Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
Do a Google search and you will find an education in backup battery scienceI found the GE supply wont properly charge my sealed lead/acids,so I use an additional float charger with an equalization switch and equalize them monthly.Makes a HUGE difference in capacity and battery life.Car batteries are the worst for backup duty! 73,Lee http://xtronics.com/reference/batterap.htm http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm David Struebel wrote: > The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just > don't overcharge them. > > Dave WB2FTX > > Loren James wrote: > > >>Got a small question, I have recently been given a pair of 12 v BAT_0103 >>batteries. These are sealed lead acid cell (UPS) and are 75 amp hr. I am >>currently using a pair of car batteries as battery back-up. Are the sealed >>ones better to use or does it make no difference. The GE power supply will >>charge them and switch to them during ac outage. Thanks Loren Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] battery question
The sealed lead acid cells have a much better deep cycle capacity. Just don't overcharge them. Dave WB2FTX Loren James wrote: >Got a small question, I have recently been given a pair of 12 v BAT_0103 >batteries. These are sealed lead acid cell (UPS) and are 75 amp hr. I am >currently using a pair of car batteries as battery back-up. Are the sealed >ones better to use or does it make no difference. The GE power supply will >charge them and switch to them during ac outage. Thanks Loren > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] battery question
Got a small question, I have recently been given a pair of 12 v BAT_0103 batteries. These are sealed lead acid cell (UPS) and are 75 amp hr. I am currently using a pair of car batteries as battery back-up. Are the sealed ones better to use or does it make no difference. The GE power supply will charge them and switch to them during ac outage. Thanks Loren Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
