Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
If you have to use SOAP, you may be better off to use Websphere. That may work faster than Apaches. Otherwise, you better do YOUR OWN bench markying with some tests! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Websphere--tp18156690p18168442.html Sent from the Resin mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Eric Kreiser wrote: even *IF *that were true (which I doubt) there is more to choosing app server. do you really want to go with the company that designed java's date handling API's Ouch ! -- -- http://www.phonewebcam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Rob Lockstone wrote: Who told you? IBM? Please do everyone a favor and never patronize IBM for anything, ever. IBM is a company which no longer deserves to exist. Although not directly relevant, please see this excellent article on I, Cringely about IBM. I can speak from personal experience that everything in that article is true. Oh, and their hardware is also pretty crappy/expensive. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2006/pulpit_20060518_000897.html I repeat, do not purchase or commit to IBM for anything. There, now you can never say you have not been warned. Its true - people nowadays get fired for buying IBM ;-) ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- *Eric S. Kreiser** *Senior Software Architect *M**z**inga** *5095 Ritter Road . Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- ***Email me:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Learn more:* http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ *Toll Free:* 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
I switched several users of Webshpere over to Resin and never looked back. I would guess whatever your business reasons are for the change, they are not valid. It has also been my experience that Resin is faster, lighter, easier to manage, and Scott Ferguson as good as anyone left at the sinking ship that is BEA. Back in the day, BEA had some real talent (and they needed it to keep the beast from self-destructing). I don't see it anymore. Mica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Haluk AKIN Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 AM To: resin-interest@caucho.com Subject: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Thank you for your reply Eric. We were told that websphere has a better performance compared to Resin. I'm trying to find out if that is true. We have also switched to DB2 recently. So maybe it is possible IBM software could work better with IBM database? Thanks, Haluk _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:48 AM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road . Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Email me: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Haluk AKIN wrote: Thank you for your reply Eric. We were told that websphere has a better performance compared to Resin. I'm trying to find out if that is true. That would be very surprising. We just had someone switch from Websphere to Resin and were surprised at just how much faster Resin was for their application. If there's a specific feature that's faster in Websphere, we'd like to know about it. We have also switched to DB2 recently. So maybe it is possible IBM software could work better with IBM database? It shouldn't, since all databases in Java use a standard JDBC interface. -- Scott Thanks, Haluk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:48 AM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road • Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Websphere = IBM. Weblogic = BEA. Confusing, ain't it? I switched the company I was working for from Websphere to Resin back in 2001. Websphere was an absolute nightmare to install back then, and we noticed no performance difference. Resin has changed a lot since then. I'm sure Websphere has too. Saludos, Jose. Mica Cooper wrote: I switched several users of Webshpere over to Resin and never looked back. I would guess whatever your business reasons are for the change, they are not valid. It has also been my experience that Resin is faster, lighter, easier to manage, and Scott Ferguson as good as anyone left at the sinking ship that is BEA. Back in the day, BEA had some real talent (and they needed it to keep the beast from self-destructing). I don't see it anymore. Mica -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Haluk AKIN *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 AM *To:* resin-interest@caucho.com *Subject:* [Resin-interest] Websphere? Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
even *IF *that were true (which I doubt) there is more to choosing app server. do you really want to go with the company that designed java's date handling API's Haluk AKIN wrote: Thank you for your reply Eric. We were told that websphere has a better performance compared to Resin. I'm trying to find out if that is true. We have also switched to DB2 recently. So maybe it is possible IBM software could work better with IBM database? Thanks, Haluk *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kreiser *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 11:48 AM *To:* General Discussion for the Resin application server *Subject:* Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- *Eric S. Kreiser** *Senior Software Architect *M**z**inga** *5095 Ritter Road • Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- *Email me:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Learn more:* http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ *Toll Free:* 800.869.5763 -- *Eric S. Kreiser** *Senior Software Architect *M**z**inga** *5095 Ritter Road • Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- *Call my office:* 717.458.9804 *Fax me:* 717.790.0401 *Email me:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Learn more:* http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ *Toll Free:* 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Hahaha, I am still laughing at that. By the same logic, his company should swap out all servers and personal computers to OS/2 as well. Seriously though Haluk, give us some specific points other than database connectivity that would lead you to consider switching so we have something to consider. There must be a reason (or several reasons) other than database connectivity that prompts you to ask for comparisons? Aaron _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:33 PM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? even IF that were true (which I doubt) there is more to choosing app server. do you really want to go with the company that designed java's date handling API's Haluk AKIN wrote: Thank you for your reply Eric. We were told that websphere has a better performance compared to Resin. I'm trying to find out if that is true. We have also switched to DB2 recently. So maybe it is possible IBM software could work better with IBM database? Thanks, Haluk _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:48 AM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road . Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Email me: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road . Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Call my office: 717.458.9804 Fax me: 717.790.0401 Email me: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
I also found this hilarious. Again, just personal opinion, but I'd far far far far far far rather work with Resin than Web*. parki... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Freeman Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:01 PM To: 'General Discussion for the Resin application server' Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Hahaha, I am still laughing at that. By the same logic, his company should swap out all servers and personal computers to OS/2 as well. Seriously though Haluk, give us some specific points other than database connectivity that would lead you to consider switching so we have something to consider. There must be a reason (or several reasons) other than database connectivity that prompts you to ask for comparisons? Aaron From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:33 PM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? even IF that were true (which I doubt) there is more to choosing app server. do you really want to go with the company that designed java's date handling API's Haluk AKIN wrote: Thank you for your reply Eric. We were told that websphere has a better performance compared to Resin. I'm trying to find out if that is true. We have also switched to DB2 recently. So maybe it is possible IBM software could work better with IBM database? Thanks, Haluk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:48 AM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road * Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road * Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Call my office: 717.458.9804 Fax me: 717.790.0401 Email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere?
Who told you? IBM? Please do everyone a favor and never patronize IBM for anything, ever. IBM is a company which no longer deserves to exist. Although not directly relevant, please see this excellent article on I, Cringely about IBM. I can speak from personal experience that everything in that article is true. Oh, and their hardware is also pretty crappy/expensive. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2006/pulpit_20060518_000897.html I repeat, do not purchase or commit to IBM for anything. There, now you can never say you have not been warned. Rob On Jun 27, 2008, at 09:28, Haluk AKIN wrote: Thank you for your reply Eric. We were told that websphere has a better performance compared to Resin. I'm trying to find out if that is true. We have also switched to DB2 recently. So maybe it is possible IBM software could work better with IBM database? Thanks, Haluk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Eric Kreiser Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:48 AM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Websphere? Why are you looking to switch off of Resin? Personal thoughts... I have been using resin for years... I have had very few issues with it... it performs well... it is easy to setup and manage... it does everything I need from an app server... Haluk AKIN wrote: Hi, We are evaluating to switch our website from Resin to Websphere. I would appreciate if you could guide me to some comparisons between these two. Personal thoughts are welcome as well. Thanks, Haluk Akin -- Eric S. Kreiser Senior Software Architect Mzinga 5095 Ritter Road • Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 --- Email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn more: http://mzinga.com/v/ekreiser/ Toll Free: 800.869.5763 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
