Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Eric Ullman

Hi all,

Apple has said that Mac OS X Server, as it exists it today, will be replaced
by a new one based on their upcoming Mac OS X release. We are planning on
supporting Mac OS X, and the new Mac OS X Server, with a new Carbonized
release of Retrospect and the Retrospect Client currently in development. We
have been participating in Apple's Developer Kitchens for Mac OS X, and we
plan to ship at the same time as Mac OS X.

Eric Ullman
Dantz Development




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Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Clay Caviness


 We have been participating in Apple's Developer Kitchens for Mac OS X,
 and we plan to ship at the same time as Mac OS X.

i sadly guess you mean when it is officially released this winter, and not, 
as i hope, when the public beta is out this summer?

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Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Eric Ullman

Clay Caviness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have been participating in Apple's Developer Kitchens for Mac OS X,
 and we plan to ship at the same time as Mac OS X.
 
 i sadly guess you mean when it is officially released this winter, and not,
 as i hope, when the public beta is out this summer?

I can't really comment on that with any certainty, Clay. I can tell you,
however, that our completing the software is very much dependent on Apple
finishing their I/O toolkit for Mac OS X. We kinda need to work with
devices, you know? ;-)

Eric Ullman
Dantz Development




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Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Thomas Myers

Hi all,

Apple has said that Mac OS X Server, as it exists it today, will be replaced
by a new one based on their upcoming Mac OS X release. We are planning on
supporting Mac OS X, and the new Mac OS X Server, with a new Carbonized
release of Retrospect and the Retrospect Client currently in development. We
have been participating in Apple's Developer Kitchens for Mac OS X, and we
plan to ship at the same time as Mac OS X.

Eric Ullman
Dantz Development

RE: I can understand holding the full retrospect client up until shipping, but I 
believe you should be able to provide a carbon client soon.  I believe it would be 
acceptable if this client was not fully sanctioned for Mac OSX, and that it be deemed 
as Client public beta. It could also only support the HFS+ file system. This would 
allow us to move onto OSX in a timely fashion.  If not we will have to consider 
competitors products.

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Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Stefan Jeglinski

RE: I can understand holding the full retrospect client up until 
shipping, but I believe you should be able to provide a carbon 
client soon.  I believe it would be acceptable if this client was 
not fully sanctioned for Mac OSX, and that it be deemed as Client 
public beta. It could also only support the HFS+ file system. This 
would allow us to move onto OSX in a timely fashion.  If not we will 
have to consider competitors products.

All well and good, but as pointed out already, the driver I/O kit 
from Apple is crucial. Apple doesn't have a very good record of this 
so far with OSX. Lots of bells and whistles and aquafication, not 
much support for anybody who is talking to a device. Go figure. We're 
in the same boat with our product, which includes a PCI board. 
Granted, there has been recent movement with the kit, but we were 
asking about this a long time ago to Apple and mostly the response 
was "yeah, yeah, whatever". You should definitely consider a 
competitor's product when a solution isn't available, but make sure 
you tell it to -Apple- ;-)

rant over.


Stefan Jeglinski



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Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Jon Stevens

on 6/1/2000 6:22 AM, Eric Ullman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Apple has said that Mac OS X Server, as it exists it today, will be replaced
 by a new one based on their upcoming Mac OS X release. We are planning on
 supporting Mac OS X, and the new Mac OS X Server, with a new Carbonized
 release of Retrospect and the Retrospect Client currently in development. We
 have been participating in Apple's Developer Kitchens for Mac OS X, and we
 plan to ship at the same time as Mac OS X.
 
 Eric Ullman
 Dantz Development

does this mean a unix client for other OS's will be in the works? :-)

-jon (who has been asking for this for about 4 years now)



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Re: Retrospect on Mac OS X (server)

2000-06-01 Thread Edmund A. Hintz

 Apple has said that Mac OS X Server, as it exists it today, will be replaced
 by a new one based on their upcoming Mac OS X release. We are planning on
 supporting Mac OS X, and the new Mac OS X Server, with a new Carbonized
 release of Retrospect and the Retrospect Client currently in development. We
 have been participating in Apple's Developer Kitchens for Mac OS X, and we
 plan to ship at the same time as Mac OS X.

 Eric Ullman
 Dantz Development

 does this mean a unix client for other OS's will be in the works? :-)

 -jon (who has been asking for this for about 4 years now)


Here at Wild Brain we could really use a client that backs up other unix
variants. We already have a whole mess of linux boxes just waiting for an
elegant yet cost effective solution, and we're looking to build a render
farm based on x86 linux... And personally, I've got the odd BSD boxen that
could use it as well...

FWIW, we have a developer subscription with Apple (and therefore DPs of
OSX), and would be most interested in beta testing either client or server,
if such assistance should be needed...

;-)

Regards,

Ed Hintz
Geek Guy
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