Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread Gary G .
Andy andy-nntp23@... writes:

 
 Gary G. wrote:
 
  It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
  developing such a script.
  
  A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
  problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
  simply vanished or lost interest.
 
 Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
 rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.
 
 Here are some instructions on how to use it:
 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102
 
 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
 then the script should still work fine.
 
 Let us know how you get on with it.

The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
state categorically that there is no such script included with the
*buntu distros out there.

The command line syntax is listed within the comments of the script itself.

Anyway, neither here nor there, it seems to work ok with the program
patches and controllers but seems to have trouble interpreting the combi
patches on my Korg TR.  It's not a perfect solution but at least it's
a working one.  I had to do some minor tweaking in the Rosegarden RGD
editor but I did manage to at least get the program patches working.

BTW, the Cakewalk/Sonar INS file is based on the MIDI standard and hasn't
really changed in the past 20 years or so,

Regards,
Gary



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread david
On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote:
 Andyandy-nntp23@...  writes:


 Gary G. wrote:

 It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
 developing such a script.

 A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
 problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
 simply vanished or lost interest.

 Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
 rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.

 Here are some instructions on how to use it:

 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102

 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
 then the script should still work fine.

 Let us know how you get on with it.

 The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
 state categorically that there is no such script included with the
 *buntu distros out there.

I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such 
script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't 
including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread Andy
david wrote:
 On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote:
 The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
 state categorically that there is no such script included with the
 *buntu distros out there.
 
 I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such 
 script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't 
 including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too?
 

You should do a bug report on the bug reporting system of your distro (Ubuntu
/ Debian) asking the distro packagers to include this script in the next
package update.

The script is quite hidden as all other scripts in the /scripts/ directory in
the source code appear to be build or development related (of no use to normal
users), so I imagine the packagers never noticed this script.

I will certainly include this script in the next update of my Redhat / Centos
/ SL Rosegarden package.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD

2012-05-16 Thread jimmy

 Gary G. wrote:

 Actually I just checked and that script is still included in
 the current
 rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under
 /scripts/.
 
 Here are some instructions on how to use it:
 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102
 
 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't
 changed since 2005 ,
 then the script should still work fine.
 

Here's getting it from the Rosegarden source-code repository:

   https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/

   
https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/scripts/

   
https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/scripts/ins2rgd.pl


I'm not a Perl guru, but can fumble around if need to.  If you have problem 
running the script to convert certain .INS file(s), I can probably help take a 
look at a couple of those if I can find the time, first come first serve -- no 
guarrantee what-so-ever.  But first, run the script if you can, capture the 
errors, and the resulting output file.

Post and attach tar/zip copy of those files to this mailing list, so other 
people can help out, or learn by fumble-around on their own if they want.  It's 
Rosegarden related, so it's not off-topic on this list.


Jimmy



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-16 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 14/05/12 23:03, Chris Cannam wrote:
 On 13 May 2012 23:56, Cláudio Pinheirotaup...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Rosegarden needs broad visibility by potential users, so it can generate a
 critical mass that would attract developers that would maintain a sustained
 growth and (even) better codebase and documentation. To achieve it
 Rosegarden must walk the multiplatform path. It must be the top priority now
 for the future's greater good.

 I appreciate this argument, and thank you for articulating it well.
 But I'm afraid I just don't see the evidence in other applications
 that broadening your user base, by porting to other platforms with a
 smaller proportion of developers, helps a great deal with development
 effort.

I agree with Chris. I will add that now a days installing a Linux 
flavour is really easy, and personally Rosegarden (plus some other 
software) together with the improved easiness of installing Linux was 
the motive for me to get back to it and eventually switch, after hard 
times trying to get it to work at the end of the 1990s.
That's to say I would stick and focus to Linux, and who knows this may 
attract other users.

My two cents.
Lorenzo.

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[Rosegarden-user] Busted Examples

2012-05-16 Thread steve conrad
I'd like to point out that my examples are broken again.

Track 9 should in all cases be a second drum track. But it comes up as
a non-percussion track in the wrong key instead.

I do this to make the notation more manageable since cymbals and
hi-hat are all notated as sharp notes whereas kick, snare and toms are
all naturals. This arrangement used to work in earlier versions of RG
but now it doesn't. Not actually sure if this is an issue with RG or
Fluidsynth.

In any case, changing track 9 so that it uses instrument 10 fixes the problem.

Sorry if I seem to be so persistently anal about a few example tunes,
but since the tunes are in C major, E minor and G minor having some
repetitive notes banging away in B major really does create a godawful
cacophony.

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