[scifinoir2] Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer
Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer Laurence Fishburne has been tapped to serve as the voice of the Silver Surfer in 20th Century Fox's upcoming sequel film Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, laying to rest speculation that Doug Jones, who provides the character's movements, might voice him as well. The news is in the current The Hollywood Reporter. Jones performed and provided movement references for the computer animation that will be used to render the Silver Surfer, a herald to a cosmic world-devouring being known as Galactus. Weta Digital oversaw visual effects for the movie. The casting of Fishburne (The Matrix) recalls Jones' role in Hellboy, in which he played the character of Abe Sapien, whose voice was eventually provided by an unbilled David Hyde Pierce. Fishburne commences voice work this week. Internet rumors had the actor voicing Galactus. Surfer will hold its premiere June 12 in London. The movie opens June 15. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41154 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Forget all that--what I wanna know is, who's the voice coach?! They have *got* to talk in that ridiculous run-on way that the American translation gave us back in the day. That was great! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
I would say WHY?, but I'm getting tired of repeating myself. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
Martin does not like musicals. Martin thinks musicals are unrealistic. Martin has been a fan of SF/fantasy for over four decades. Martin is not a well man... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer
Martin likes. Martin lkes... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer Laurence Fishburne has been tapped to serve as the voice of the Silver Surfer in 20th Century Fox's upcoming sequel film Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, laying to rest speculation that Doug Jones, who provides the character's movements, might voice him as well. The news is in the current The Hollywood Reporter. Jones performed and provided movement references for the computer animation that will be used to render the Silver Surfer, a herald to a cosmic world-devouring being known as Galactus. Weta Digital oversaw visual effects for the movie. The casting of Fishburne (The Matrix) recalls Jones' role in Hellboy, in which he played the character of Abe Sapien, whose voice was eventually provided by an unbilled David Hyde Pierce. Fishburne commences voice work this week. Internet rumors had the actor voicing Galactus. Surfer will hold its premiere June 12 in London. The movie opens June 15. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41154 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Scifiholic speaks out Re: [scifinoir2] Painkiller Jane Series Premiere
This one dealt with a bunch of pilots fighting the creatures in the skies above Europe, I think. It must have been a WWII era pic. The gargoyle CGI sucked! I guess it's all about profit, but nothing's worse than bad CGI. Heck, *good* CGI can sometimes bother me, as it's still too obviously not real. The Spider-Man movies, for example, are great, but the CGI leaves a lot to be desired. SciFi seems to have decided they can put out crap with crap CGI on the cheap. For example, did you see the movie about some giant killer cyborg/clone monster that was stalking German soldiers in WWII? The thing was so obviously CGI it was awful! I have video games whose cut-scene characters are more realistic looking that that. Or how 'bout that flick with Dean Superman Cain where a cloned dragon is stalking the corridors of an underground research lab? It's horrible because every single scene of the monster is obviously the exact same one! There's that horrible film that takes place on an is land where Coolio (!) is playing a Special Forces commander whose men are menaced by monsters. The monsters are so fake-looking, it's almost as laughable as Coolio playing a military man! The sad thing is, men in costume--like the ones in the orginal Gargoyles with Cornel Wilde--look better than the bad CGI on SciFi. Heck, for that matter, I'd take the old stop-motion beasties of Ray Harryhausen over that! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you referring to the gargoyle picture with the girls from Roswell? That wasn't that bad. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you see the crap with Robert Chakotay Beltran from Voyager? It was about a sentient fire creature running around immolating people. Junk! Then there was the one about gargoyles, which was yet another of the SciFi Originals with incredibly bad FX. Why are their films sporting CGI that looks ten years out of date? seriousl, I've seen better on home PCs -- Original message -- From: Martin In perfect honesty, I watch almost every Saturday. Always with the sound off (I'm weird that way, rarely watch TV with sound, relying on Closed Caption). At least every other week, I ahve to turn off the captioning, because I get too far into my MSTie rant and lose track of the program. I even write mini-reviews of some of the movies. Allow me to share the one from the spectacular Kaw. Never more. Never more. Seriously. It's the sole purpose behind my viewing them, having a list of movies to pick from when I realize my dream of restarting the MST3K franchise. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: The truth shall set me free huh? OK, lemme give it a try. But it the group starts to throw stones at me, it will be your fault. So, here is my confession, While I have finally given up on decent scifi movies on Saturdays, when scifi channel first started the Saturday night D movie programming, I watched regularly for at least 8 weeks hoping that some of the movies would be good campy fun. Even after I went cold turkey and stopped watching, I fell off the wagon at least six times. However, I'm happy to report, that I have only watched two D movies straight through in the past 12 months. OK, your turn to 'fess up. Tracey Martin wrote: Tracey, not long after I chose the username I carry aound 'Net-wide, I read a quote from someone (need to find out who), that went, In order to seek the truth in all things, you have to *speak* the truth in all things. If it's truly bad, lady, NEVER HOLD BACK. ;) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I plead the 5th. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow, Tracey, you're bad as me: you'll sometimes watch almost anything to get a scifi fix. if *you* hate it, it must be bad. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Craptastic is being kind. there was a robot in it who was always dieing an coming back to life. They actor would crack/title his nect to the side whenever he came back. I wanted to break it for him. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't believe I've never seen this show, not even to dog it out. Was it as bad as the awful series Adrian Highlander Paul was in, the one where he was tracking down rogue aliens on Earth, Alien Tracker? -- Original message -- From: Martin Keith, whyfor you insult Vulcans so? Seriously, this is nothing more in my eyes than Codename: Eternity (was that the name of that craptastic show?) with a slightly better-looking lead.
[scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Scifiholic speaks out Re: [scifinoir2] Painkiller Jane Series Premiere
Oh, yeah. He was all in that role. :P And that gargoyle fun-fest...I'm still shaking my head. Reminded me of the SS Doomtrooper crap. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you see the crap with Robert Chakotay Beltran from Voyager? It was about a sentient fire creature running around immolating people. Junk! Then there was the one about gargoyles, which was yet another of the SciFi Originals with incredibly bad FX. Why are their films sporting CGI that looks ten years out of date? seriousl, I've seen better on home PCs -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] In perfect honesty, I watch almost every Saturday. Always with the sound off (I'm weird that way, rarely watch TV with sound, relying on Closed Caption). At least every other week, I ahve to turn off the captioning, because I get too far into my MSTie rant and lose track of the program. I even write mini-reviews of some of the movies. Allow me to share the one from the spectacular Kaw. Never more. Never more. Seriously. It's the sole purpose behind my viewing them, having a list of movies to pick from when I realize my dream of restarting the MST3K franchise. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The truth shall set me free huh? OK, lemme give it a try. But it the group starts to throw stones at me, it will be your fault. So, here is my confession, While I have finally given up on decent scifi movies on Saturdays, when scifi channel first started the Saturday night D movie programming, I watched regularly for at least 8 weeks hoping that some of the movies would be good campy fun. Even after I went cold turkey and stopped watching, I fell off the wagon at least six times. However, I'm happy to report, that I have only watched two D movies straight through in the past 12 months. OK, your turn to 'fess up. Tracey Martin wrote: Tracey, not long after I chose the username I carry aound 'Net-wide, I read a quote from someone (need to find out who), that went, In order to seek the truth in all things, you have to *speak* the truth in all things. If it's truly bad, lady, NEVER HOLD BACK. ;) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I plead the 5th. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow, Tracey, you're bad as me: you'll sometimes watch almost anything to get a scifi fix. if *you* hate it, it must be bad. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Craptastic is being kind. there was a robot in it who was always dieing an coming back to life. They actor would crack/title his nect to the side whenever he came back. I wanted to break it for him. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't believe I've never seen this show, not even to dog it out. Was it as bad as the awful series Adrian Highlander Paul was in, the one where he was tracking down rogue aliens on Earth, Alien Tracker? -- Original message -- From: Martin Keith, whyfor you insult Vulcans so? Seriously, this is nothing more in my eyes than Codename: Eternity (was that the name of that craptastic show?) with a slightly better-looking lead. *Slightly*... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone catch this besides me? Man, this was just awful: cliched, predictable, boring. Some of the stuff that hit me from the start: * Kristanna Loken isn't a very good actress. She was stiff and delivered her lines with all the emotion of a Vulcan. Maybe it was the dialogue and uninspired writing, which were sho' 'nuff problems,but I doubt it. But then, what reason is there to expect the latest Terminator to have acting ability? * Within five minutes of the opening, the show was in one of those cliched (using that word again!) underground rave-type clubs with the pulse-pounding music and young people from Central Casting posing and dancing wildly, while obvious bad guys skulk in their midst doing drug deals. Truly one of the most overused scenes in such shows outside of strip clubs. Booorinng! * The first--and only, I might add--of the good guys to get killed was a brother. Sad thing is, soon as I saw him I thought This show's gonna kill that Black man. Bingo! There is another Brother left, but of course he's older and out of shape, not young and/or hunky like the rest of the cast. he was already punked by Jane. Surprise! * Will someone *Please* teach these new directors that herky-jerky and tilting camera work is *not* a good way to add action to a scene? Just makes it confused and amateurish-looking. Who's running film school these days, Michael Bay?! * The good guys are another one of those shadow-type groups that hang out in a hidden warehouse HQ with high-tech equipment, and who are
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
one of my fav scifi movies from back in the day. I remember when Dr. Forbin asks Colossus for permission to use the bathroom or have women over without being monitored by Colossus' cameras, and the computer responsds no. Or how he has several military guys who'd plotted his overthrow executed by their own men, the bodies to be left untouched for a week as an abject lesson. It was *really* scary when Colossus merged with its Russian counterpart. And that ending, when they fitted him with a voice, and he says In time you and your children will come to love me, even as God. Wow! I hope Howard brings a deft touch and doesn't bury the theme in a bunch of overblown action and adventure. This isn't a film that needs to be a blockbuster, in my opinion. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
The first person 'd hire would be Peter Fernandez, the man who originally voiced Speed in the American translation. And it's what he does for a living anyway. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget all that--what I wanna know is, who's the voice coach?! They have *got* to talk in that ridiculous run-on way that the American translation gave us back in the day. That was great! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Spider-Man: The Musical
Sorry about the repeat post Tracey Oyabun of Beats wrote: from today's Hollywood Reporter: Marvel spins Spider-Man into Broadway musical By Borys Kit April 20, 2007 Get ready for Spider-Man: The Broadway Musical. That may not be the official title, but Marvel Studios is putting the pieces together for a musical on the Great White Way starring the popular superhero, which will be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project. Auditions are taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. No dates for a Broadway opening have been set. Producing are Hello Entertainment/David Garfinkle, Martin McCallum, Marvel Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment. In addition to co-producing the show, Hello Entertainment is arranging all financing for the project. While the Spider-Man musical marks the first time a Marvel character has been the subject of a Broadway show, it's not the first time a superhero has hit the stage. Superman was in the spotlight of It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman, which opened at the Alvin Theatre in 1966. Despite fairly positive reviews, it closed a few months later. Before becoming Marvel chairman, David Maisel spearheaded the 1999 best musical Tony winner Fosse. Taymor won two Tonys for direction and costume design for the Broadway production of The Lion King. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Amen... I was not feeling Vince Vaughn at a all Tracey Martin wrote: Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
What the EARTHSEA?!?!?!?!?! I felt like that guy in Clockwork Orange who's eyes were pinned open at the end of the movie. (I see Nick Cage is doing that in Next). I couldn't watch Pain Killer Jane longer than 10 minutes. My lady friend sitting next to me asked me why I was watching PKJ and I said answered her that I wanted to see if its as bad as people say it is. She then ask me, How can you tell how bad it is if your your face is in your hands and your looking at the floor shaking your head? Because I can hear it., I answered.
[scifinoir2] Re: Despite cast shakeup Dr Who still popular
Dr Who is one of the few shows that will make my children step away from their computers. I HAVE to check online each week to make sure of the time its on, or I'll be kicked out of the family.:-) I've loved this show for years and still do. I don't know how they seem to get it right every time. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's even bigger this season. The third ep of the new series was postponed bya football game, and the protests from fans lit up the BBC3 switchboards all night long. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the 1980s ended, it seemed as if the world had somehow had enough of Doctor Who. Many believed that the stories had fallen out of luster, and that was just from the people who had yet to outgrow the series and noticed it was still even on. Revival attempts were bantied about in the nearly two decades that followed, but even then, no one believed that Doctor Who would return to the top of the ratings heap in the United Kingdom. The thing is, it has -- even after a major cast shakeup the past two seasons. The third season of Doctor Who featuring David Tennant and Freema Agyeman is surprising analysts across the island as it continues to bring in more than 8 million viewers each week, giving it an audience share of around 40 percent, Variety reports. While 8 million might be considered a good average audience in the United States, in Queen Elizabeth II country, that makes it one of the highest rated television programs, and probably makes BBC wish they could insert some commercials. There was a tremendous amount of excitement when the series returned in 2005 with Christopher Eccleston as The Doctor and Billie Piper as his companion, Rose Tyler. And fans quickly fell in love with both characters and their portrayers. But that lineup would only last one season. And in fact, by the time the third season began on BBC One a few weeks ago, both actors were long gone. But the viewers weren't. Only Coronation Street and EastEnders -- two very popular soap operas -- get better ratings in the United Kingdom, Variety reported. With the return of the Daleks and a season finale producers say will make previous finales look like walks in the park, it looks like Doctor Who will be around for a long time to come. Doctor Who airs Saturdays on BBC One, and is expected to begin airing in the United States on SciFi Channel in the fall. http://www.syfyportal.com/news423534.html Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sorry About BIG Typos Re: [scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
Hi guys: Sorry about the typos. I'm in the middle of a relapse. Went its late at night and I can not sleep as a result of pain, sometimes surf for scifi to distract me Unfortunately do not have my glasses on so I do not see what I'm typing. Tracey Martin wrote: Martin does not like musicals. Martin thinks musicals are unrealistic. Martin has been a fan of SF/fantasy for over four decades. Martin is not a well man... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
So, lasted *that* long, did you? drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the EARTHSEA?!?!?!?!?! I felt like that guy in Clockwork Orange who's eyes were pinned open at the end of the movie. (I see Nick Cage is doing that in Next). I couldn't watch Pain Killer Jane longer than 10 minutes. My lady friend sitting next to me asked me why I was watching PKJ and I said answered her that I wanted to see if its as bad as people say it is. She then ask me, How can you tell how bad it is if your your face is in your hands and your looking at the floor shaking your head? Because I can hear it., I answered. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Sorry About BIG Typos Re: [scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
Hugs across the continent, lady. Take care, and know that you're loved. (And, again, do *not* allow the Mister to know about this.) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys: Sorry about the typos. I'm in the middle of a relapse. Went its late at night and I can not sleep as a result of pain, sometimes surf for scifi to distract me Unfortunately do not have my glasses on so I do not see what I'm typing. Tracey Martin wrote: Martin does not like musicals. Martin thinks musicals are unrealistic. Martin has been a fan of SF/fantasy for over four decades. Martin is not a well man... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
The *only* person feeling Vince for that role *was* Vince. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen... I was not feeling Vince Vaughn at a all Tracey Martin wrote: Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
you shoulda trusted my post the other day and spared yourself the, eh--pain--of Painkiller Jane! So, what was the worst for you, Loken's stiff acting, the cliched characters and settings, the bad music and music video camera work, the Heroes ripoff plot, or the fact they killed the one brother?! -- Original message -- From: drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] What the EARTHSEA?!?!?!?!?! I felt like that guy in Clockwork Orange who's eyes were pinned open at the end of the movie. (I see Nick Cage is doing that in Next). I couldn't watch Pain Killer Jane longer than 10 minutes. My lady friend sitting next to me asked me why I was watching PKJ and I said answered her that I wanted to see if its as bad as people say it is. She then ask me, How can you tell how bad it is if your your face is in your hands and your looking at the floor shaking your head? Because I can hear it., I answered. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Oh my Gods does that really say Christina Ricci?!! Is this supposed to be like Fellini does Speed Racer? What kind of surreal casting IS this? On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Amen... I was not feeling Vince Vaughn at a all Tracey Martin wrote: Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Yep. Fear not, though, Intrepid Viewer, it could be worse...actually, *no*, it *couldn't*... Oyabun of Beats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my Gods does that really say Christina Ricci?!! Is this supposed to be like Fellini does Speed Racer? What kind of surreal casting IS this? On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Amen... I was not feeling Vince Vaughn at a all Tracey Martin wrote: Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Despite cast shakeup Dr Who still popular
For me, as always, it's the writing. Tell a good story, and they will come. Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Who is one of the few shows that will make my children step away from their computers. I HAVE to check online each week to make sure of the time its on, or I'll be kicked out of the family.:-) I've loved this show for years and still do. I don't know how they seem to get it right every time. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's even bigger this season. The third ep of the new series was postponed bya football game, and the protests from fans lit up the BBC3 switchboards all night long. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the 1980s ended, it seemed as if the world had somehow had enough of Doctor Who. Many believed that the stories had fallen out of luster, and that was just from the people who had yet to outgrow the series and noticed it was still even on. Revival attempts were bantied about in the nearly two decades that followed, but even then, no one believed that Doctor Who would return to the top of the ratings heap in the United Kingdom. The thing is, it has -- even after a major cast shakeup the past two seasons. The third season of Doctor Who featuring David Tennant and Freema Agyeman is surprising analysts across the island as it continues to bring in more than 8 million viewers each week, giving it an audience share of around 40 percent, Variety reports. While 8 million might be considered a good average audience in the United States, in Queen Elizabeth II country, that makes it one of the highest rated television programs, and probably makes BBC wish they could insert some commercials. There was a tremendous amount of excitement when the series returned in 2005 with Christopher Eccleston as The Doctor and Billie Piper as his companion, Rose Tyler. And fans quickly fell in love with both characters and their portrayers. But that lineup would only last one season. And in fact, by the time the third season began on BBC One a few weeks ago, both actors were long gone. But the viewers weren't. Only Coronation Street and EastEnders -- two very popular soap operas -- get better ratings in the United Kingdom, Variety reported. With the return of the Daleks and a season finale producers say will make previous finales look like walks in the park, it looks like Doctor Who will be around for a long time to come. Doctor Who airs Saturdays on BBC One, and is expected to begin airing in the United States on SciFi Channel in the fall. http://www.syfyportal.com/news423534.html Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Scifiholic speaks out Re: [scifinoir2] Painkiller Jane Series Premiere
In any endeavor that obtains truth at its end, I am prepared to surrender life and limb. And, if needed, my Firefly/Serenity collection. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The truth shall set me free huh? OK, lemme give it a try. But it the group starts to throw stones at me, it will be your fault. So, here is my confession, While I have finally given up on decent scifi movies on Saturdays, when scifi channel first started the Saturday night D movie programming, I watched regularly for at least 8 weeks hoping that some of the movies would be good campy fun. Even after I went cold turkey and stopped watching, I fell off the wagon at least six times. However, I'm happy to report, that I have only watched two D movies straight through in the past 12 months. OK, your turn to 'fess up. Tracey Martin wrote: Tracey, not long after I chose the username I carry aound 'Net-wide, I read a quote from someone (need to find out who), that went, In order to seek the truth in all things, you have to *speak* the truth in all things. If it's truly bad, lady, NEVER HOLD BACK. ;) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I plead the 5th. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow, Tracey, you're bad as me: you'll sometimes watch almost anything to get a scifi fix. if *you* hate it, it must be bad. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Craptastic is being kind. there was a robot in it who was always dieing an coming back to life. They actor would crack/title his nect to the side whenever he came back. I wanted to break it for him. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't believe I've never seen this show, not even to dog it out. Was it as bad as the awful series Adrian Highlander Paul was in, the one where he was tracking down rogue aliens on Earth, Alien Tracker? -- Original message -- From: Martin Keith, whyfor you insult Vulcans so? Seriously, this is nothing more in my eyes than Codename: Eternity (was that the name of that craptastic show?) with a slightly better-looking lead. *Slightly*... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone catch this besides me? Man, this was just awful: cliched, predictable, boring. Some of the stuff that hit me from the start: * Kristanna Loken isn't a very good actress. She was stiff and delivered her lines with all the emotion of a Vulcan. Maybe it was the dialogue and uninspired writing, which were sho' 'nuff problems,but I doubt it. But then, what reason is there to expect the latest Terminator to have acting ability? * Within five minutes of the opening, the show was in one of those cliched (using that word again!) underground rave-type clubs with the pulse-pounding music and young people from Central Casting posing and dancing wildly, while obvious bad guys skulk in their midst doing drug deals. Truly one of the most overused scenes in such shows outside of strip clubs. Booorinng! * The first--and only, I might add--of the good guys to get killed was a brother. Sad thing is, soon as I saw him I thought This show's gonna kill that Black man. Bingo! There is another Brother left, but of course he's older and out of shape, not young and/or hunky like the rest of the cast. he was already punked by Jane. Surprise! * Will someone *Please* teach these new directors that herky-jerky and tilting camera work is *not* a good way to add action to a scene? Just makes it confused and amateurish-looking. Who's running film school these days, Michael Bay?! * The good guys are another one of those shadow-type groups that hang out in a hidden warehouse HQ with high-tech equipment, and who are answerable only to ourselves. How original! * There is of course a resident computer geek, and of course he's the oddball who wears stocking caps, tennis shoes, warmup suits, etc. Just once nowadays I'd like to see an IT expert that's not pushing the Gen Y look. * The doctor on here appears to be Indian or Middle Eastern, but has a British accent. I'm really getting tired of Indian, Pakistani, or Arab characters with British accents. From Bashir on DS9 to Sayid on Lost (who is British in real life and fakes an Iraqi accent) American-produced shows are replete with such characters who speak the Queen's English or their native tongue with such an accent. Is there a reason we can't get actors who actually *sound* like they're from their characters' country of origin? * Man, I think half the profits of the drug trade and the budget of government law enforcement agencies, must go to leather wear! Amazing how every henchman and supposedly
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
I like Ricci, but she is not the Trixie we knew. Maybe they are going to make her kind of dark and sarcastic. Tracey Oyabun of Beats wrote: Oh my Gods does that really say Christina Ricci?!! Is this supposed to be like Fellini does Speed Racer? What kind of surreal casting IS this? On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Amen... I was not feeling Vince Vaughn at a all Tracey Martin wrote: Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
I saw your post to late...I regret my delay in reading the listserve... www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
It wasn't easy www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
I don't know know where to begin, I really don't. I mean. I really am at a loss of words about how bad it was... www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
Is there a Pain Kill Jane support group that you guys can join? Tracey Said Kakese Dibinga wrote: I don't know know where to begin, I really don't. I mean. I really am at a loss of words about how bad it was... www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
I hope that they stick closer to the book version because what is done there was a whole lot more realistic than what the movie implied...Like for instance, what you said about the incident where Colossus had the military officers killed for 'treason'; he actually left the bodies out for a week to ensure that they were dead as he didn't quite understand the concept of death as well as not trusting those who carry out the excecution. There was another incident where he had one of the scientists who conspired to destroy him shot, decpitated and immmersed in a tak of water for several hours to ensure he was dead as well as satiate his curiosity about death...If they spent as much time on the psychology of the computer, I think it would come off more chilling than what we saw in the TV movie... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of my fav scifi movies from back in the day. I remember when Dr. Forbin asks Colossus for permission to use the bathroom or have women over without being monitored by Colossus' cameras, and the computer responsds no. Or how he has several military guys who'd plotted his overthrow executed by their own men, the bodies to be left untouched for a week as an abject lesson. It was *really* scary when Colossus merged with its Russian counterpart. And that ending, when they fitted him with a voice, and he says In time you and your children will come to love me, even as God. Wow! I hope Howard brings a deft touch and doesn't bury the theme in a bunch of overblown action and adventure. This isn't a film that needs to be a blockbuster, in my opinion. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
Not even Elvis movies??? Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin does not like musicals. Martin thinks musicals are unrealistic. Martin has been a fan of SF/fantasy for over four decades. Martin is not a well man... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
Hey, I LOVED that movie...until I read the trilogy Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say WHY?, but I'm getting tired of repeating myself. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X
Oh hell yes! Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better him than Vince Vaughan. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Races To Speed Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel Silver. Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic. Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in Berlin. Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his quest for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's mysterious racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed Racer in around the series' summer hiatus. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41156 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer
Just as long as he doesn't sound like Silver Morphius... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin likes. Martin lkes... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer Laurence Fishburne has been tapped to serve as the voice of the Silver Surfer in 20th Century Fox's upcoming sequel film Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, laying to rest speculation that Doug Jones, who provides the character's movements, might voice him as well. The news is in the current The Hollywood Reporter. Jones performed and provided movement references for the computer animation that will be used to render the Silver Surfer, a herald to a cosmic world-devouring being known as Galactus. Weta Digital oversaw visual effects for the movie. The casting of Fishburne (The Matrix) recalls Jones' role in Hellboy, in which he played the character of Abe Sapien, whose voice was eventually provided by an unbilled David Hyde Pierce. Fishburne commences voice work this week. Internet rumors had the actor voicing Galactus. Surfer will hold its premiere June 12 in London. The movie opens June 15. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41154 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Sorry About BIG Typos Re: [scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
My dear Lady...I hope you feel better... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys: Sorry about the typos. I'm in the middle of a relapse. Went its late at night and I can not sleep as a result of pain, sometimes surf for scifi to distract me Unfortunately do not have my glasses on so I do not see what I'm typing. Tracey Martin wrote: Martin does not like musicals. Martin thinks musicals are unrealistic. Martin has been a fan of SF/fantasy for over four decades. Martin is not a well man... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
When I read that they were going to base the movie on the series of books, it really grabbed me. I never read the series. astro, can you tell me what the other books covered. Tracey Astromancer wrote: I hope that they stick closer to the book version because what is done there was a whole lot more realistic than what the movie implied...Like for instance, what you said about the incident where Colossus had the military officers killed for 'treason'; he actually left the bodies out for a week to ensure that they were dead as he didn't quite understand the concept of death as well as not trusting those who carry out the excecution. There was another incident where he had one of the scientists who conspired to destroy him shot, decpitated and immmersed in a tak of water for several hours to ensure he was dead as well as satiate his curiosity about death...If they spent as much time on the psychology of the computer, I think it would come off more chilling than what we saw in the TV movie... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: one of my fav scifi movies from back in the day. I remember when Dr. Forbin asks Colossus for permission to use the bathroom or have women over without being monitored by Colossus' cameras, and the computer responsds no. Or how he has several military guys who'd plotted his overthrow executed by their own men, the bodies to be left untouched for a week as an abject lesson. It was *really* scary when Colossus merged with its Russian counterpart. And that ending, when they fitted him with a voice, and he says In time you and your children will come to love me, even as God. Wow! I hope Howard brings a deft touch and doesn't bury the theme in a bunch of overblown action and adventure. This isn't a film that needs to be a blockbuster, in my opinion. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let’s just saying you know more than you think, but we’re not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Sorry About BIG Typos Re: [scifinoir2] Spiperman the Braodwy play
Hey Martin and Astro: I had a bad week, but today I woke up feeling much better. Thanks for the supportive messages. Please keep up the smart ass message. Between you guy and my know it all three year old, i will be laughing through the entire illness. Tracey Astromancer wrote: My dear Lady...I hope you feel better... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Hi guys: Sorry about the typos. I'm in the middle of a relapse. Went its late at night and I can not sleep as a result of pain, sometimes surf for scifi to distract me Unfortunately do not have my glasses on so I do not see what I'm typing. Tracey Martin wrote: Martin does not like musicals. Martin thinks musicals are unrealistic. Martin has been a fan of SF/fantasy for over four decades. Martin is not a well man... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Thoughts? Marvel Studios is developing a Broadway musical based on Spider-Man, to be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter; auditions are now taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Let's just saying you know more than you think, but we're not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer
I guess that depends on whether he took the red pill or the blue pill Tracey Astromancer wrote: Just as long as he doesn't sound like Silver Morphius... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Martin likes. Martin lkes... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fishburne Voices Silver Surfer Laurence Fishburne has been tapped to serve as the voice of the Silver Surfer in 20th Century Fox's upcoming sequel film Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, laying to rest speculation that Doug Jones, who provides the character's movements, might voice him as well. The news is in the current The Hollywood Reporter. Jones performed and provided movement references for the computer animation that will be used to render the Silver Surfer, a herald to a cosmic world-devouring being known as Galactus. Weta Digital oversaw visual effects for the movie. The casting of Fishburne (The Matrix) recalls Jones' role in Hellboy, in which he played the character of Abe Sapien, whose voice was eventually provided by an unbilled David Hyde Pierce. Fishburne commences voice work this week. Internet rumors had the actor voicing Galactus. Surfer will hold its premiere June 12 in London. The movie opens June 15. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41154 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=41154 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let’s just saying you know more than you think, but we’re not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
I loved that movie too. Tell me more about the Trilogy. What about the trilogy changed your mind about the movie Tracey Astromancer wrote: Hey, I LOVED that movie...until I read the trilogy Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: I would say WHY?, but I'm getting tired of repeating myself. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let’s just saying you know more than you think, but we’re not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Universal Remaking Colossus : The Forbin Project
wow, I never knew that. Now I'm really intrigued as to what Howard will use as the source material. Modern movies in the scifi realm are unfortunately in the main leaving intelligent writing and true suspense behind. But Howard is an older director and intelligent, so one can hope. I'm just not in the mood for this to be yet another FX/explosion-filled affair. -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope that they stick closer to the book version because what is done there was a whole lot more realistic than what the movie implied...Like for instance, what you said about the incident where Colossus had the military officers killed for 'treason'; he actually left the bodies out for a week to ensure that they were dead as he didn't quite understand the concept of death as well as not trusting those who carry out the excecution. There was another incident where he had one of the scientists who conspired to destroy him shot, decpitated and immmersed in a tak of water for several hours to ensure he was dead as well as satiate his curiosity about death...If they spent as much time on the psychology of the computer, I think it would come off more chilling than what we saw in the TV movie... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of my fav scifi movies from back in the day. I remember when Dr. Forbin asks Colossus for permission to use the bathroom or have women over without being monitored by Colossus' cameras, and the computer responsds no. Or how he has several military guys who'd plotted his overthrow executed by their own men, the bodies to be left untouched for a week as an abject lesson. It was *really* scary when Colossus merged with its Russian counterpart. And that ending, when they fitted him with a voice, and he says In time you and your children will come to love me, even as God. Wow! I hope Howard brings a deft touch and doesn't bury the theme in a bunch of overblown action and adventure. This isn't a film that needs to be a blockbuster, in my opinion. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Remaking Colossus Universal and Imagine Entertainment will remake the 1970 SF drama Colossus: The Forbin Project, about a computer that takes over the world, as a potential directing vehicle for Ron Howard, Variety reported. Brian Grazer will produce. Jason Rothenberg has been set to write the screenplay for the remake, which will be called simply Colossus. Based on a book by D.F. Jones, the original film was a forerunner of movies such as The Terminator, introducing the idea of a government-built computer that becomes sentient. Rothenberg will use the original's premise as a springboard and will incorporate two subsequent Colossus novels written by Jones to create a broader story. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Waayy OT: Armed Miss America 1944 stops intruder
This is OT, but I had to send this one. Mamma wasn't messing around! * Armed Miss America 1944 stops intruder Fri Apr 20, 8:16 PM ET Miss America 1944 has a talent that likely has never appeared on a beauty pageant stage: She fired a handgun to shoot out a vehicle's tires and stop an intruder. Venus Ramey, 82, confronted a man on her farm in south-central Kentucky last week after she saw her dog run into a storage building where thieves had previously made off with old farm equipment. Ramey said the man told her he would leave. I said, 'Oh, no you won't,' and I shot their tires so they couldn't leave, Ramey said. She had to balance on her walker as she pulled out a snub-nosed .38-caliber handgun. I didn't even think twice. I just went and did it, she said. If they'd even dared come close to me, they'd be 6 feet under by now. Ramey then flagged down a passing motorist, who called 911. Curtis Parrish of Ohio was charged with misdemeanor trespassing, Deputy Dan Gilliam said. The man's hometown wasn't immediately available. Three other people were questioned but were not arrested. After winning the pageant with her singing, dancing and comedic talents, Ramey sold war bonds and her picture was adorned on a B-17 that made missions over Germany in World War II, according to the Miss America Web site. Ramey lived in Cincinnati for several years and was instrumental in helping rejuvenate Over-the-Rhine historic buildings. She returned to Kentucky in 1990 to live on her farm. I'm trying to live a quiet, peaceful life and stay out of trouble, and all it is, is one thing after another, she said. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] OT: Catholic Church buries limbo after centuries
Wow, this is really something. Sometimes--many times, in truth--I do understand why some of my friends are atheists or agnostics. It does seem that Man grafts so much of his own fears, needs, greed, etc.onto religious truth that such truth can be twisted all out of recognition. Limbo wasn't really belived in by most in the Catholic church, yet they had to get around to removing it from the literature? So many concepts of sin and morality seem to be based on the mores of the current times and political/social climates, not on a true connection to God. For example, I look back with chagrin remembering a time when I had to consciously get comfortable with the idea of female preachers. The church in which I was raised teaches the old time belief that men alone should be preachers, and as a kid, I didn't really question that too much. Of course, as my family will tell you, I basically question *everything* in life--with one notable exception being the existence of a God--so I got a round to the gender thing too. I had to look at history and realize the attitudes of the church were based on societal attitudes about women, just as the Mormons used to teach that we blacks weren't worthy of the same grace as whites, or how there have been times when churches would teach that long hair on men was improper, yet be okay worshipping a Jesus with same. I had to make myself get over that prejudice. So much of what we accept from organized religion needs to be examined closely. And times like these, so many who claim to follow God twist the truth to serve their own ends. A friend of mine likes to say that Jesus never meant to start a religion. I get that. I believe in God, but man, do people make it hard! Catholic Church buries limbo after centuries By Philip PullellaFri Apr 20, 2:21 PM ET The Roman Catholic Church has effectively buried the concept of limbo, the place where centuries of tradition and teaching held that babies who die without baptism went. In a long-awaited document, the Church's International Theological Commission said limbo reflected an unduly restrictive view of salvation. The 41-page document was published on Friday by Origins, the documentary service of the U.S.-based Catholic News Service, which is part of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Pope Benedict, himself a top theologian who before his election in 2005 expressed doubts about limbo, authorized the publication of the document, called The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptised. The verdict that limbo could now rest in peace had been expected for years. The document was seen as most likely the final word since limbo was never part of Church doctrine, even though it was taught to Catholics well into the 20th century. The conclusion of this study is that there are theological and liturgical reasons to hope that infants who die without baptism may be saved and brought into eternal happiness even if there is not an explicit teaching on this question found in revelation, it said. There are reasons to hope that God will save these infants precisely because it was not possible (to baptize them). The Church teaches that baptism removes original sin which stains all souls since the fall from grace in the Garden of Eden. NO NEGATION OF BAPTISM The document stressed that its conclusions should not be interpreted as questioning original sin or used to negate the necessity of baptism or delay the conferral of the sacrament. Limbo, which comes from the Latin word meaning border or edge, was considered by medieval theologians to be a state or place reserved for the unbaptized dead, including good people who lived before the coming of Christ. People find it increasingly difficult to accept that God is just and merciful if he excludes infants, who have no personal sins, from eternal happiness, whether they are Christian or non-Christian, the document said. It said the study was made all the more pressing because the number of nonbaptised infants has grown considerably, and therefore the reflection on the possibility of salvation for these infants has become urgent. The commission's conclusions had been widely expected. In writings before his election as Pope in 2005, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger made it clear he believed the concept of limbo should be abandoned because it was only a theological hypothesis and never a defined truth of faith. In the Divine Comedy, Dante placed virtuous pagans and great classical philosophers, including Plato and Socrates, in limbo. The Catholic Church's official catechism, issued in 1992 after decades of work, dropped the mention of limbo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
Okay, I'll try to get throu what I'm about to write... I can feel my chest tighten already... Getting dark, must stay conscious... 1) When PKJ staggers down the alley in the rain, why did the rain follow her as she staggered up the alley but not rain anymore where she was a step ago? It was like a rain cloud hovering over Snoopys dog house 2) Tech geek dressed like a nerd...so original 3) Everyone is wearing black. 4) She's wearing matrix gear in public like she's supposed to stand out? 5) If they have such high-tech equipment, I assume its expensive. So they can only afford to be in a warehouse? 6) If they have so much money, they can't afford a scanner that automatically scans for bugs with inside the building? They don't know Gen Hackmans Brill from Will Smiths Enemy of The State? 7) Expensive equipment and the tech guy sits on a chair from a clearance sale? 8) They wonder how she found the warehouse. They show the flashback of how she put the bug on the guy along with her saying something, then they cut back to the present and she repeats the line she said in the flashback. It reminds me of that stupid middle and ending in Halle Berry's Perfect Instinct. They show Halle typing the instant message text bar I left my panties at Keith Johnson's house, please don't tell anyone at scifinoir and they show her saying the line at the same time as she types it? I don't anyone that says out loud what they type in a text message And because the plot is so convoluted that even that even the writer couldn't make sense so they had Rabisi's character tell Halle everything that he knows and it basically covers everything from the movie? Then Rabisi asks Halle what he's going to do for him? Didn't they see how it's done in the film To Live and Die in LA with Willem Dafoe? I'm sorry, I regress . 9) Exactly how high was the building that Jane and the black man were falling down the side of? King Kong hit the ground faster than they did in last years King Kong. Did they hit the ground? I changed the channel 10) Jane's crew is cookie cutter. So diverse, so original. It reminds me of Mutant X . 11) Now I see why they didn't give the lead actress more lines in Terminator 3. 11A) I can't get over the rain following her down the alley like a dark cloud over Snoopys dog house. 12) Did you notice that all these romantic comedy movies and the Joan of Arcadias play that same ATT commercial like music All around the world like they have exclusive rights to grunge music? Who picks the music for this show, Courtney Love? The music on PKJ reminds me of that pathetic intro music in the later years of Enterprise with Captain Archer. 12A) I can't get over the rain following her down the alley like a dark cloud over Snoopys dog house. 13) Do you notice on the CSI shows and shows like The Closer that the Anglo lead actor/actress stands in front with everyone else standing behind him or her? Every time they showed the lead Anglo man in PKJ, the rest of the team is standing behind him like they're afraid of PKJ might shoot someone and they use the Anglo leader like a human shield? I can't write anymore, I'm done . 12A) I can't get over the rain following her down the alley like a dark cloud over Snoopys dog house. Said --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a Pain Kill Jane support group that you guys can join? Tracey Said Kakese Dibinga wrote: I don't know know where to begin, I really don't. I mean. I really am at a loss of words about how bad it was... www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Scifiholic speaks out Re: [scifinoir2] Painkiller Jane Series Premiere
I posted a reply to Tracey listing crappy movies ,and I talked of a cyborg/clone monster thingie with crap CGI. SS Doomtrooper was it! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, yeah. He was all in that role. :P And that gargoyle fun-fest...I'm still shaking my head. Reminded me of the SS Doomtrooper crap. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you see the crap with Robert Chakotay Beltran from Voyager? It was about a sentient fire creature running around immolating people. Junk! Then there was the one about gargoyles, which was yet another of the SciFi Originals with incredibly bad FX. Why are their films sporting CGI that looks ten years out of date? seriousl, I've seen better on home PCs -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] In perfect honesty, I watch almost every Saturday. Always with the sound off (I'm weird that way, rarely watch TV with sound, relying on Closed Caption). At least every other week, I ahve to turn off the captioning, because I get too far into my MSTie rant and lose track of the program. I even write mini-reviews of some of the movies. Allow me to share the one from the spectacular Kaw. Never more. Never more. Seriously. It's the sole purpose behind my viewing them, having a list of movies to pick from when I realize my dream of restarting the MST3K franchise. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The truth shall set me free huh? OK, lemme give it a try. But it the group starts to throw stones at me, it will be your fault. So, here is my confession, While I have finally given up on decent scifi movies on Saturdays, when scifi channel first started the Saturday night D movie programming, I watched regularly for at least 8 weeks hoping that some of the movies would be good campy fun. Even after I went cold turkey and stopped watching, I fell off the wagon at least six times. However, I'm happy to report, that I have only watched two D movies straight through in the past 12 months. OK, your turn to 'fess up. Tracey Martin wrote: Tracey, not long after I chose the username I carry aound 'Net-wide, I read a quote from someone (need to find out who), that went, In order to seek the truth in all things, you have to *speak* the truth in all things. If it's truly bad, lady, NEVER HOLD BACK. ;) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I plead the 5th. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow, Tracey, you're bad as me: you'll sometimes watch almost anything to get a scifi fix. if *you* hate it, it must be bad. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Craptastic is being kind. there was a robot in it who was always dieing an coming back to life. They actor would crack/title his nect to the side whenever he came back. I wanted to break it for him. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't believe I've never seen this show, not even to dog it out. Was it as bad as the awful series Adrian Highlander Paul was in, the one where he was tracking down rogue aliens on Earth, Alien Tracker? -- Original message -- From: Martin Keith, whyfor you insult Vulcans so? Seriously, this is nothing more in my eyes than Codename: Eternity (was that the name of that craptastic show?) with a slightly better-looking lead. *Slightly*... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone catch this besides me? Man, this was just awful: cliched, predictable, boring. Some of the stuff that hit me from the start: * Kristanna Loken isn't a very good actress. She was stiff and delivered her lines with all the emotion of a Vulcan. Maybe it was the dialogue and uninspired writing, which were sho' 'nuff problems,but I doubt it. But then, what reason is there to expect the latest Terminator to have acting ability? * Within five minutes of the opening, the show was in one of those cliched (using that word again!) underground rave-type clubs with the pulse-pounding music and young people from Central Casting posing and dancing wildly, while obvious bad guys skulk in their midst doing drug deals. Truly one of the most overused scenes in such shows outside of strip clubs. Booorinng! * The first--and only, I might add--of the good guys to get killed was a brother. Sad thing is, soon as I saw him I thought This show's gonna kill that Black man. Bingo! There is another Brother left, but of course he's older and out of shape, not young and/or hunky like the rest of the cast. he was already punked by Jane. Surprise! * Will someone *Please* teach these new directors that herky-jerky and tilting camera work is *not* a good way to add action to a scene? Just makes it confused and amateurish-looking.
[scifinoir2] Re: I watched Pain Killer Jane yesterday...
And another thing... 13) Halle Berrys Kenyan accent in X-Men 3 was stronger than the writing for the Pain Killer Jane episode I, uhm, watched Said --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'll try to get throu what I'm about to write... I can feel my chest tighten already... Getting dark, must stay conscious... 1) When PKJ staggers down the alley in the rain, why did the rain follow her as she staggered up the alley but not rain anymore where she was a step ago? It was like a rain cloud hovering over Snoopys dog house 2) Tech geek dressed like a nerd...so original 3) Everyone is wearing black. 4) She's wearing matrix gear in public like she's supposed to stand out? 5) If they have such high-tech equipment, I assume its expensive. So they can only afford to be in a warehouse? 6) If they have so much money, they can't afford a scanner that automatically scans for bugs with inside the building? They don't know Gen Hackmans Brill from Will Smiths Enemy of The State? 7) Expensive equipment and the tech guy sits on a chair from a clearance sale? 8) They wonder how she found the warehouse. They show the flashback of how she put the bug on the guy along with her saying something, then they cut back to the present and she repeats the line she said in the flashback. It reminds me of that stupid middle and ending in Halle Berry's Perfect Instinct. They show Halle typing the instant message text bar I left my panties at Keith Johnson's house, please don't tell anyone at scifinoir and they show her saying the line at the same time as she types it? I don't anyone that says out loud what they type in a text message And because the plot is so convoluted that even that even the writer couldn't make sense so they had Rabisi's character tell Halle everything that he knows and it basically covers everything from the movie? Then Rabisi asks Halle what he's going to do for him? Didn't they see how it's done in the film To Live and Die in LA with Willem Dafoe? I'm sorry, I regress . 9) Exactly how high was the building that Jane and the black man were falling down the side of? King Kong hit the ground faster than they did in last years King Kong. Did they hit the ground? I changed the channel 10) Jane's crew is cookie cutter. So diverse, so original. It reminds me of Mutant X . 11) Now I see why they didn't give the lead actress more lines in Terminator 3. 11A) I can't get over the rain following her down the alley like a dark cloud over Snoopys dog house. 12) Did you notice that all these romantic comedy movies and the Joan of Arcadias play that same ATT commercial like music All around the world like they have exclusive rights to grunge music? Who picks the music for this show, Courtney Love? The music on PKJ reminds me of that pathetic intro music in the later years of Enterprise with Captain Archer. 12A) I can't get over the rain following her down the alley like a dark cloud over Snoopys dog house. 13) Do you notice on the CSI shows and shows like The Closer that the Anglo lead actor/actress stands in front with everyone else standing behind him or her? Every time they showed the lead Anglo man in PKJ, the rest of the team is standing behind him like they're afraid of PKJ might shoot someone and they use the Anglo leader like a human shield? I can't write anymore, I'm done . 12A) I can't get over the rain following her down the alley like a dark cloud over Snoopys dog house. Said --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: Is there a Pain Kill Jane support group that you guys can join? Tracey Said Kakese Dibinga wrote: I don't know know where to begin, I really don't. I mean. I really am at a loss of words about how bad it was... www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
