RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
That's just stopid... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:59:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion Sorry dude... here is an article on it. http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hilll/archive/2009/06/17/with-toy-story-3-cars-2-and-monsters-inc-2-now-in-the-works-why-no-incredibles-2.aspx On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Please tell me that's just a rumour! Surely they wouldn't have put the kibosh on what would have been such a great film! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:26:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion Wasn't there supposed to be a part 2 of the incredibles but it got shelved? On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:54 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: *ahem* The Incredibles *ahem* I was thinking more along the lines of a Fantastic Four or Avengers film done by Brad Bird or some of the other Pixar folks who are big comic heads. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: Yes we can have Finding Wolverine, The Punisher, Inc. or A Hulk's Life. AAHHH KILL ME NOW B --- On Mon, 8/31/09, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote: From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:22 AM Nope. Fox still owns Toby and the Spider-Man film franchise. One silver lining: Part of the deal involves possible Marvel-Pixar collaborations. Yes --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher. Excuse me while I go catatonic... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: ravenadal@ . Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is the death knell for a lot of great characters. ~(no)rave! August 31, 2009, 9:27 am Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock. Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' share prices on Friday. Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include Iron Man and the X-Men. Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their production. This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement. Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said. _ _ _ _ _ _
RE: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category
That's it *exactly*, Mr Worf! As though something was cut out of it. I still liked it, because it got my imagination going, lots of potential ideas climbing out of the crawlspaces of my brain as I watched. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:39:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category I agree. I just watched it again a couple of weeks ago and almost fell asleep. There seems to be something that was cut out that probably helped the story along, but it was very dry like a bad turkey dinner. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I found MIB2 to be a bit boring... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 12:05:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category Easy for me. MiB3. (Did *not* intend for that to rhyme...) At least I enjoy that franchise. The first Bad Boys was mindless entertainment. The second was *pain*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:05:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category This project has a 50% chance of being a lot of fun. That 50% hinges on whether or not Michael Bay decides not to do it. Michael Bay is wy to disconnected to do an enjoyable cop-based action movie. This Transformers stuff has just taken him to another place, and I don't think any of us want to go there with him. Anymore. There are a few directors, Carl Franklin being one, who I would like to see take on this story and make it into something. Make it grow. Will Smith is the biggest movie star in the world. He is either going to do this...or Men In Black 3. It's GOING to happen. Which would you rather? On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Deity, why hast thou forsaken us? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 03:45:35 + Subject: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category You have got to be kidding! I almost walked out of the second Bad Boys, so bad it was with crappy writing, unfunny jokes, over-the-top-but-unmoving noise and explosions. I thought it was the ultimate exercise in bad Hollywood movie making: a film that was louder, more violent, more full of car stuff, more--more-- than anything out at the time. Instead it just made me feel numbed. The worst mix of Smith and Lawrence telling lame jokes (I was offended at the comments made at female corpses' breast), Bay at his directing worse. Even managed to waste Gabriel Union (her chase scene in that van actually had me and my wife laughing). And we're recently talking about the fear that Hollywood will go even further down the path of abandoning high concept films, good dramas, and original properties in favor of endless sequels, comic-to-movie adaptations, and low budget, high profit comedies and horror flicks. We hear that only the likes of Smith will continue to get big salaries. I was even watching Leonardo Di Caprio on Charlie Rose recently saying how it was getting harder to make a good drama unless it had a lot of action and appealed to key demographics. This is a key example of that unfortunate trend. I will *not* be in the seats for this one, if the rumours prove to be true. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3if39271c89709c28eceb20163c74fc6f4 'Bad Boys 3' in the works Peter Craig will write the screenplayBy Borys Kit Aug 30, 2009, 11:00 PM ET Columbia Pictures is developing a third installment of the high-octane Bad Boys franchise, tapping Peter Craig to pen the screenplay. The hope is to have a script that would reunite director Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and stars Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. At this point, with the project in the early stages, none has a deal to return. The Boys movies feature Smith and Lawrence as Miami detectives Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett, caught up in cases involving car chases and explosions.
RE: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category
I agree with you, Keith. Now we have to convince the money men of that... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 04:22:36 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category I'd choose neither option. How about Smith does something else aside from either of these sequels? As for Bay, it didn't take Transformers for me to dislike him. I've always felt he was a hack who uses the lowest common denominator of noise, explosions, chases, and bad camera work to hype up the action. John Woo he's not - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:05:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category This project has a 50% chance of being a lot of fun. That 50% hinges on whether or not Michael Bay decides not to do it. Michael Bay is wy to disconnected to do an enjoyable cop-based action movie. This Transformers stuff has just taken him to another place, and I don't think any of us want to go there with him. Anymore. There are a few directors, Carl Franklin being one, who I would like to see take on this story and make it into something. Make it grow. Will Smith is the biggest movie star in the world. He is either going to do this...or Men In Black 3. It's GOING to happen. Which would you rather? On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Deity, why hast thou forsaken us? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 03:45:35 + Subject: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category You have got to be kidding! I almost walked out of the second Bad Boys, so bad it was with crappy writing, unfunny jokes, over-the-top-but-unmoving noise and explosions. I thought it was the ultimate exercise in bad Hollywood movie making: a film that was louder, more violent, more full of car stuff, more--more-- than anything out at the time. Instead it just made me feel numbed. The worst mix of Smith and Lawrence telling lame jokes (I was offended at the comments made at female corpses' breast), Bay at his directing worse. Even managed to waste Gabriel Union (her chase scene in that van actually had me and my wife laughing). And we're recently talking about the fear that Hollywood will go even further down the path of abandoning high concept films, good dramas, and original properties in favor of endless sequels, comic-to-movie adaptations, and low budget, high profit comedies and horror flicks. We hear that only the likes of Smith will continue to get big salaries. I was even watching Leonardo Di Caprio on Charlie Rose recently saying how it was getting harder to make a good drama unless it had a lot of action and appealed to key demographics. This is a key example of that unfortunate trend. I will *not* be in the seats for this one, if the rumours prove to be true. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3if39271c89709c28eceb20163c74fc6f4 'Bad Boys 3' in the works Peter Craig will write the screenplayBy Borys KitAug 30, 2009, 11:00 PM ETColumbia Pictures is developing a third installment of the high-octane Bad Boys franchise, tapping Peter Craig to pen the screenplay. The hope is to have a script that would reunite director Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and stars Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. At this point, with the project in the early stages, none has a deal to return. The Boys movies feature Smith and Lawrence as Miami detectives Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett, caught up in cases involving car chases and explosions. The first Boys, released in 1995, helped launch Bay as a director and Smith as an action star even though it was not a fire-stamped blockbuster -- it grossed $66 million domestically and $141 million worldwide. The sequel, released in 2003 when Bay and Smith's stars had risen, grossed $138 million domestically and $273 million worldwide. All parties have expressed a willingness to return if a story can be hammered out. One potential hurdle, however, would be the costly deals with the players. Craig, repped by CAA and Management 360, co-wrote The Town, which Ben Affleck is directing for Warner Bros. and which shoots in Boston next month. He is adapting anime Cowboy Bebop for 20th Century Fox and Keanu Reeves.
RE: [scifinoir2] Wave Motion Gun FTW!!!
Mr Worf, the closest link I can find is that Leiji Matsumoto was involved in the creation of both. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:54:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Wave Motion Gun FTW!!! It looks pretty good! The look of the captain keeps changing. I kind of preferred the older captain though. Wasn't Captain Harlock a spinoff show from Star Blazers? On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Here's the trailer for the new Space Crusier Yamato(aka Star Blazers) movie. Usually the mix of traditional and computer animation is a bit jarring for me but this looks really good. http://io9.com/5350661/after-seeing-this-new-star-blazers-trailer-were-definitely-off-to-outer-space http://tinyurl.com/n2daay I guess we'll see a dvd release of this sometime next year. B. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category
As old as will smith and martin lawrence are, would it be named, Bad Men? (Sorry, I couldn't help it. I'll go now). --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 5:39 AM I agree. I just watched it again a couple of weeks ago and almost fell asleep. There seems to be something that was cut out that probably helped the story along, but it was very dry like a bad turkey dinner. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: I found MIB2 to be a bit boring... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 12:05:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category Easy for me. MiB3. (Did *not* intend for that to rhyme...) At least I enjoy that franchise. The first Bad Boys was mindless entertainment. The second was *pain*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: dar...@darylelockha rt.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:05:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category This project has a 50% chance of being a lot of fun. That 50% hinges on whether or not Michael Bay decides not to do it. Michael Bay is wy to disconnected to do an enjoyable cop-based action movie. This Transformers stuff has just taken him to another place, and I don't think any of us want to go there with him. Anymore. There are a few directors, Carl Franklin being one, who I would like to see take on this story and make it into something. Make it grow. Will Smith is the biggest movie star in the world. He is either going to do this...or Men In Black 3. It's GOING to happen. Which would you rather? On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Deity, why hast thou forsaken us? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 03:45:35 + Subject: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category You have got to be kidding! I almost walked out of the second Bad Boys, so bad it was with crappy writing, unfunny jokes, over-the-top- but-unmoving noise and explosions. I thought it was the ultimate exercise in bad Hollywood movie making: a film that was louder, more violent, more full of car stuff, more--more-- than anything out at the time. Instead it just made me feel numbed. The worst mix of Smith and Lawrence telling lame jokes (I was offended at the comments made at female corpses' breast), Bay at his directing worse. Even managed to waste Gabriel Union (her chase scene in that van actually had me and my wife laughing). And we're recently talking about the fear that Hollywood will go even further down the path of abandoning high concept films, good dramas, and original properties in favor of endless sequels, comic-to-movie adaptations, and low budget, high profit comedies and horror flicks. We hear that only the likes of Smith will continue to get big salaries. I was even watching Leonardo Di Caprio on Charlie Rose recently saying how it was getting harder to make a good drama unless it had a lot of action and appealed to key demographics. This is a key example of that unfortunate trend. I will *not* be in the seats for this one, if the rumours prove to be true. * * * * * ** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ hr/content_ display/news/ e3if39271c89709c 28eceb20163c74fc 6f4 'Bad Boys 3' in the works Peter Craig will write the screenplay By Borys Kit Aug 30, 2009, 11:00 PM ET Columbia Pictures is developing a third installment of the high-octane Bad Boys franchise, tapping Peter Craig to pen the screenplay. The hope is to have a script that would reunite director Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and stars Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. At this point, with the project in the early stages, none has a deal to return. The Boys movies feature Smith and Lawrence as Miami detectives Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett, caught up in cases involving car chases and explosions. The first Boys, released in 1995, helped launch Bay as a director and Smith as an action star even though it was not a fire-stamped blockbuster -- it grossed $66 million domestically and $141 million worldwide. The sequel, released in 2003 when Bay and Smith's stars had risen, grossed $138 million
[scifinoir2] I give you one more reason...
... to loathe All That Is Siffy. Syfy Channel Getting A Cooking Show? http://io9.com/5351045/syfy-channel-getting-a-cooking-show?skyline=trues=i Martin (again abandoning all hope) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
[scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone
http://selux.notlong.com DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone Source: Pop Culture Shock Pop Culture Shock posted a great article here about the plight of Dwayne McDuffie and the Milestone characters. I am not going to go over the ins and outs of the events leading up to the subject of the article, but to summarize my understanding is that DC signed McDuffie to write for the JLA, and then handcuffed him by taking away the Big 3 (Supes, Bats, and WW) and then basically limiting him to the C,D and E team characters. As part of DCs overall deal with McDuffie, they also acquired the Milestone line of characters, including Static. Obviously, due to the popularity of Static, its apparent that the whole thing was to get control of Static for use in the DC universe. EDIT: BTW-check out the Pop Culture Shock link because it has an interview with McDuffie about the whole ordeal. http://www.popcultureshock.com/didio-plans-milestoners-static/50200/ I am pretty sure that DC's committment to integrating the Milestone characters into the DC universe was a temporary ruse. It seems that DC is notorius for picking up popular characters and comic lines just so they can't be used anywhere else. So, here we have DC picking up Milestone and deciding not to use the characters at all, except for the one they wanted: Static (now appearing as a member of Teen Titans). The end result being that McDuffie can't even use or license those characters to anyone else (Marvel), or use them in a relaunch of Milestone (not saying that was likely, but the time IMO is right). DC takes the characters and places them on the shelf. Can't say I'm not surprised to see McDuffie get screwed over by DC. It isn't like they were very welcoming from the get go. I remember how hyped I was when Milestone first started. Comic books for black people by black people. Recently, I evengot copies of every single Milestone comic. It was revolutionary and those guys were ahead of their time. It was also giving black artists and writers who weren't getting gigs at Marvel and DC a place to showcase their talent and many careers were launched as a result. At that time there wasn't a lot of support for Milestone, and it didn't stay around long enough. But I think that now would be the ideal time for something like Milestone. With the success of Blade and Will Smith at the box office, the rise of the webcomics and iPhone comic viewers, and the future of comic distribution, I have no doubt that Milestone would have been successful on a relaunch. I know that McDuffie Friends hold these characters dear to their hearts (and wallets) and I know that they ultimately bear the responsibilty(DC probably gave them a boatload of money) for the fuckery that DC is perpetuating against them (just because I pay for the sex, doesn't mean I want to get raped). So, here's to you DC, for showing your ass once again.
[scifinoir2] Hudson Joins Heroes Cast
http://scifi.about.com/b/2009/08/16/hudson-joins-heroes-cast.htm Hudson Joins Heroes Cast Sunday August 16, 2009 The genial yet authoritative Ernie Hudson (Oz, Ghostbusters) will be joining Heroes in a recurring role. And he's playing a detective. Again. Hudson will be playing Captain Lubbock, a Baltimore cop who's seeking to capture one of the other characters. This follows the previous key casting announcement for the upcoming fourth season of Heroes, which introduces a new storyline about a traveling carnival of people with special powers, run by a charismatic but evil Earth-moving ringleader (Robert Knepper). And yes, it's true: they're working on Ghostbusters III for 2012 with the original cast. The new writers are Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky (The Office, Year One). That could work, if the humor leans more toward the former than the latter. Dan Ackroyd says filming could start as soon as this winter. The plan is for it to be a passing-the-torch kind of movie, which is what you might expect so many years on from the original films.
Re: [scifinoir2] Twitter agog as Google
Twitter's awesome, but you have to think of it like a live messageboard or the concept doesn't work. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Even if I had thought of Twitter as an option, it wouuld've been no good for me. None of the people I needed to reach during the outage are Twitter users, and I needed to send them more than words. And I doubt I would've gone that route, even if I'd had the option. I tried Twitter for about an hour last week. Just not my cuppa. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:06:21 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Twitter agog as Google http://vaephae.notlong.com Google's Gmail goes down for at least half an hour; Twitter lights up September 1, 2009 | 1:47 pm Google-outage Google's Gmail electronic mail platform went down about 1 p.m. PST for at least some fraction of the Web audience, and it didn't take long for tens of thousands of Twitter users to note that the service was offline. While the extent of the outage was not immediately clear, for at least a vocal swath of Twitter users, Gmail was offline for more than 30 minutes, qualifying it for Google's technical definition of a downtime period, rather than simply intermittent spottiness. Many of Google's services essentially exist in the cloud -- that is, users interact with programs on Google's servers via the Web, rather than running them from their own computers. That means the company's business -- and reputation -- depends on its being available to consumers and business customers without interruption. For paying customers of Google Apps, the company guarantees that the service will be available at least 99.9% of the time. Any less, and Google starts to lose money back to businesses, which are credited with free service days based on the extent of the outage. In a 31-day month, there are 44,640 minutes, meaning that the cutoff -- 0.1% -- means a maximum of about 45 minutes of downtime. As of this writing, the Gmail outage has lasted about 30 minutes. Consumers who use the free service, of course, don't get any freebies when Google goes down. Gmail went down for about two hours in August of last year as well. Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but a spokesperson left the following comment on this post after publication: On behalf of Google I wanted to let everyone know that we're really sorry for the inconvenience and working to fix the problem as fast as we can. If you have IMAP or POP set up already, you should be able to access your mail that way in the meantime. You can find the latest information on the Apps Status Dashboard at www.google.com/appsstatus. -- Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now.http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
RE: [scifinoir2] Twitter agog as Google
Which makes my apprehension toward it all the more bizarre, Adrianne, considering my gift for the quick quip. Such would be perfect for the medium. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:29:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Twitter agog as Google Twitter's awesome, but you have to think of it like a live messageboard or the concept doesn't work. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Even if I had thought of Twitter as an option, it wouuld've been no good for me. None of the people I needed to reach during the outage are Twitter users, and I needed to send them more than words. And I doubt I would've gone that route, even if I'd had the option. I tried Twitter for about an hour last week. Just not my cuppa. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:06:21 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Twitter agog as Google http://vaephae.notlong.com Google's Gmail goes down for at least half an hour; Twitter lights up September 1, 2009 | 1:47 pm Google-outage Google's Gmail electronic mail platform went down about 1 p.m. PST for at least some fraction of the Web audience, and it didn't take long for tens of thousands of Twitter users to note that the service was offline. While the extent of the outage was not immediately clear, for at least a vocal swath of Twitter users, Gmail was offline for more than 30 minutes, qualifying it for Google's technical definition of a downtime period, rather than simply intermittent spottiness. Many of Google's services essentially exist in the cloud -- that is, users interact with programs on Google's servers via the Web, rather than running them from their own computers. That means the company's business -- and reputation -- depends on its being available to consumers and business customers without interruption. For paying customers of Google Apps, the company guarantees that the service will be available at least 99.9% of the time. Any less, and Google starts to lose money back to businesses, which are credited with free service days based on the extent of the outage. In a 31-day month, there are 44,640 minutes, meaning that the cutoff -- 0.1% -- means a maximum of about 45 minutes of downtime. As of this writing, the Gmail outage has lasted about 30 minutes. Consumers who use the free service, of course, don't get any freebies when Google goes down. Gmail went down for about two hours in August of last year as well. Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but a spokesperson left the following comment on this post after publication: On behalf of Google I wanted to let everyone know that we're really sorry for the inconvenience and working to fix the problem as fast as we can. If you have IMAP or POP set up already, you should be able to access your mail that way in the meantime. You can find the latest information on the Apps Status Dashboard at www.google.com/appsstatus. Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
RE: [scifinoir2] Loved the Movie; bought the t-shirt; snubbed the book
I remember, with lingering horror, the boost that the original Batman gave to the comics' sales. At the time, I was a faithful reader of all of the Bat-titles, and the comics store I frequented at the time never had a shortage of them (not really a problem for me since, because of my yearly membership, all of my books were pulled and set aside in a folder for me alone). The first Wednesday after the movie came out, I went to my store, only to find it crammed to capacity with people, all looking for Bat-books. I had four offers to buy my books at several times their value. Didn't take any of them, more because I was insulted by the offers. To me, comics aren't like stocks. They're treasures. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:08:07 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Loved the Movie; bought the t-shirt; snubbed the book http://sooxuu.notlong.com America Saw the Movies But Missed the Books Comic Publishers Are Losing Out Sunday, August 23, 2009 The film Iron Man 2 isn't set to come out until next summer, but you would never have guessed that from a recent issue of Entertainment Weekly featuring Robert Downey Jr. summoning all the gravitas a man in red plastic can muster. To be fair, the magazine was covering the cinematic buzz coming out of the San Diego Comic-Con last month. The gathering served as a marketing vehicle for upcoming movies, including Jonah Hex and Iron Man 2. But when people weren't gawking at Megan Fox (Jonah Hex) and Scarlett Johansson (Iron Man 2), they may have taken in a panel with comics writers. After all, Comic-Con started as a way for comic fans to buy, sell and discuss the objects of their passion. But the celebrity dazzle obscured the strange reality: Movies based on comic books often turn into box-office hits, but their sources rarely see a related boost. Why? And why aren't comics publishers doing more to sell their material to moviegoers when their business has been dampened by the recession? Take this year's cinematic entry into the comics genre, X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Despite middling reviews, the movie has grossed $365 million worldwide. When the movie came out in May, Marvel Comics' Wolverine title nabbed the No. 3 and No. 5 spots on the monthly single-issue comics best-seller lists, according to Diamond Comics Distributors. It sold 170,399 issues. But by June, the title's sales had dropped 62 percent, and there were fewer copies traded than the 86,000 sold in the month before the movie's release. Marvel's not the only one to miss the movie moment. Rival industry titan DC Comics is home to Batman. In July 2008, The Dark Knight gave the Batman titles a boost, but it was only temporary: By the same time this year, the original series was on hiatus, thanks to DC Comics' decision to kill off the title character. There's a replacement Batman series -- Battle for the Cowl -- but that's a little like asking someone to embrace Rex the Wonder Dog after they've watched a Superman movie. Entry Costs The daunting task of diving into a story that is already underway is one reason moviegoers stay away. Unlike the authors of Harry Potter or Twilight books, comic publishers keep developing their franchises' story lines as they're shaped for the big screen. Customers expect their monthly fix. Plus it's hard-baked into their business model. Comics podcast host Brian Eison points out that Marvel's and DC's sales are pegged to series plotted for years at a time. Since the publishers have sunk capital into these series, it makes no sense for them to alienate their core base by suspending or rewriting series to tie in to a movie. But it's equally senseless to waste the opportunity to cultivate new readers. If someone were to walk out of Wolverine and into a comic shop, they would have no idea what to read, given the character's colorful back stories. And a neophyte comics reader is at the mercy of the shop employee for recommendations, because there are few clear entry points. Plus, there aren't many comics titles aimed squarely at new readers. Introductory comic books might make a real difference in easing beginners into comics. When the first Iron Man movie came out in May 2008, Marvel launched a new title, Invincible Iron Man. The first issue sold 105,833 copies, something only a handful of comics titles achieve every month. The next month, sales had slid 35 percent, in a typical drop-off after the first issue. A year later, sales were holding steady in the low 50,000 range. This is good news: That readership is still larger than that of any Iron Man title before the movie. Plus not all American comics revolve around the exploits of people with tights,
Re: [scifinoir2] Hudson Joins Heroes Cast
I thought it was Jennifer Hudson. --- On Thu, 9/3/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Hudson Joins Heroes Cast To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 10:03 AM http://scifi. about.com/ b/2009/08/ 16/hudson- joins-heroes- cast.htm Hudson Joins Heroes Cast Sunday August 16, 2009 The genial yet authoritative Ernie Hudson (Oz, Ghostbusters) will be joining Heroes in a recurring role. And he's playing a detective. Again. Hudson will be playing Captain Lubbock, a Baltimore cop who's seeking to capture one of the other characters. This follows the previous key casting announcement for the upcoming fourth season of Heroes, which introduces a new storyline about a traveling carnival of people with special powers, run by a charismatic but evil Earth-moving ringleader (Robert Knepper). And yes, it's true: they're working on Ghostbusters III for 2012 – with the original cast. The new writers are Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky (The Office, Year One). That could work, if the humor leans more toward the former than the latter. Dan Ackroyd says filming could start as soon as this winter. The plan is for it to be a passing-the- torch kind of movie, which is what you might expect so many years on from the original films.
Re: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone
DC performed the classic big corporation maneuver when confronted with competition; offer the competitor a lot of money and promises then squelch them. The problem with most black comic book artists (and comic book artists in general) is that all they really want to do is work for DC or Marvel. When DC came calling our boys at Milestone fell for the okey doke. No disrespect to them because it's hard not to. The unfortunate thing is apparently they had no advisor or mentor to brief them on what would happen once they signed on the dotted line. They may have made the same decision, but at least they would have been stabbed in the chest instead of the back. I work for a company that thrives on acquisitions and we do what DC did to Milestone all the time. It's not good or bad; it's just business. The only way a black owned comic book company will gain true stature and influence is to resist the temptation when the big boys come calling, then prepare themselves for the attack that will take place once they refuse. If they can weather the storm the long term payoff will be worth it. --- On Thu, 9/3/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:58 PM http://selux. notlong.com DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone Source: Pop Culture Shock Pop Culture Shock posted a great article here about the plight of Dwayne McDuffie and the Milestone characters. I am not going to go over the ins and outs of the events leading up to the subject of the article, but to summarize my understanding is that DC signed McDuffie to write for the JLA, and then handcuffed him by taking away the Big 3 (Supes, Bats, and WW) and then basically limiting him to the C,D and E team characters. As part of DCs overall deal with McDuffie, they also acquired the Milestone line of characters, including Static. Obviously, due to the popularity of Static, its apparent that the whole thing was to get control of Static for use in the DC universe. EDIT: BTW-check out the Pop Culture Shock link because it has an interview with McDuffie about the whole ordeal. http://www.popcultu reshock.com/ didio-plans- milestoners- static/50200/ I am pretty sure that DC's committment to integrating the Milestone characters into the DC universe was a temporary ruse. It seems that DC is notorius for picking up popular characters and comic lines just so they can't be used anywhere else. So, here we have DC picking up Milestone and deciding not to use the characters at all, except for the one they wanted: Static (now appearing as a member of Teen Titans). The end result being that McDuffie can't even use or license those characters to anyone else (Marvel), or use them in a relaunch of Milestone (not saying that was likely, but the time IMO is right). DC takes the characters and places them on the shelf. Can't say I'm not surprised to see McDuffie get screwed over by DC. It isn't like they were very welcoming from the get go. I remember how hyped I was when Milestone first started. Comic books for black people by black people. Recently, I evengot copies of every single Milestone comic. It was revolutionary and those guys were ahead of their time. It was also giving black artists and writers who weren't getting gigs at Marvel and DC a place to showcase their talent and many careers were launched as a result. At that time there wasn't a lot of support for Milestone, and it didn't stay around long enough. But I think that now would be the ideal time for something like Milestone. With the success of Blade and Will Smith at the box office, the rise of the webcomics and iPhone comic viewers, and the future of comic distribution, I have no doubt that Milestone would have been successful on a relaunch. I know that McDuffie Friends hold these characters dear to their hearts (and wallets) and I know that they ultimately bear the responsibilty( DC probably gave them a boatload of money) for the fuckery that DC is perpetuating against them (just because I pay for the sex, doesn't mean I want to get raped). So, here's to you DC, for showing your ass once again.
Re: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason...
Man, I don't know what you're talking about. I can't wait for the recipe to Klingon Fried Chicken! --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:33 PM ... to loathe All That Is Siffy. Syfy Channel Getting A Cooking Show? http://io9.com/ 5351045/syfy- channel-getting- a-cooking- show?skyline= trues=i Martin (again abandoning all hope) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now.
Re: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason...
Don't forget how to prepare fresh Ga'ak... :) On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Milton Davis mv_media_...@yahoo.comwrote: Man, I don't know what you're talking about. I can't wait for the recipe to Klingon Fried Chicken! --- On *Thu, 9/3/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com* wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:33 PM ... to loathe All That Is Siffy. Syfy Channel Getting A Cooking Show? http://io9.com/ 5351045/syfy- channel-getting- a-cooking- show?skyline= trues=ihttp://io9.com/5351045/syfy-channel-getting-a-cooking-show?skyline=trues=i Martin (again abandoning all hope) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVikhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now.http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Wave Motion Gun FTW!!!
Hmm I rented the series. I will try to find the episode I was thinking of. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:26 AM, truthseeker_013 truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, the closest link I can find is that Leiji Matsumoto was involved in the creation of both. Mr Worf, I've been poking about a bit more on this, found this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Harlock#Other_appearances If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:54:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Wave Motion Gun FTW!!! It looks pretty good! The look of the captain keeps changing. I kind of preferred the older captain though. Wasn't Captain Harlock a spinoff show from Star Blazers? On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote: Here's the trailer for the new Space Crusier Yamato(aka Star Blazers) movie. Usually the mix of traditional and computer animation is a bit jarring for me but this looks really good. http://io9.com/5350661/after-seeing-this-new-star-blazers-trailer-were-definitely-off-to-outer-space http://tinyurl.com/n2daay I guess we'll see a dvd release of this sometime next year. B. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone
The only reason DC acquired the Archie/MLJ super-heroes and THUNDER Agents is so they can't be used elsewhere. They had gotten wind of Dynamite's interest in both properties. MarkEllisInk.com Site of best-selling author Mark (James Axler) Ellis --- On Thu, 9/3/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 9:58 AM http://selux. notlong.com DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone Source: Pop Culture Shock Pop Culture Shock posted a great article here about the plight of Dwayne McDuffie and the Milestone characters. I am not going to go over the ins and outs of the events leading up to the subject of the article, but to summarize my understanding is that DC signed McDuffie to write for the JLA, and then handcuffed him by taking away the Big 3 (Supes, Bats, and WW) and then basically limiting him to the C,D and E team characters. As part of DCs overall deal with McDuffie, they also acquired the Milestone line of characters, including Static. Obviously, due to the popularity of Static, its apparent that the whole thing was to get control of Static for use in the DC universe. EDIT: BTW-check out the Pop Culture Shock link because it has an interview with McDuffie about the whole ordeal. http://www.popcultu reshock.com/ didio-plans- milestoners- static/50200/ I am pretty sure that DC's committment to integrating the Milestone characters into the DC universe was a temporary ruse. It seems that DC is notorius for picking up popular characters and comic lines just so they can't be used anywhere else. So, here we have DC picking up Milestone and deciding not to use the characters at all, except for the one they wanted: Static (now appearing as a member of Teen Titans). The end result being that McDuffie can't even use or license those characters to anyone else (Marvel), or use them in a relaunch of Milestone (not saying that was likely, but the time IMO is right). DC takes the characters and places them on the shelf. Can't say I'm not surprised to see McDuffie get screwed over by DC. It isn't like they were very welcoming from the get go. I remember how hyped I was when Milestone first started. Comic books for black people by black people. Recently, I evengot copies of every single Milestone comic. It was revolutionary and those guys were ahead of their time. It was also giving black artists and writers who weren't getting gigs at Marvel and DC a place to showcase their talent and many careers were launched as a result. At that time there wasn't a lot of support for Milestone, and it didn't stay around long enough. But I think that now would be the ideal time for something like Milestone. With the success of Blade and Will Smith at the box office, the rise of the webcomics and iPhone comic viewers, and the future of comic distribution, I have no doubt that Milestone would have been successful on a relaunch. I know that McDuffie Friends hold these characters dear to their hearts (and wallets) and I know that they ultimately bear the responsibilty( DC probably gave them a boatload of money) for the fuckery that DC is perpetuating against them (just because I pay for the sex, doesn't mean I want to get raped). So, here's to you DC, for showing your ass once again.
[scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness
They are making Big Mama 3
RE: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness
Don’t make me barf. I cannot bring myself to watch for the first two “movies” From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:15 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness They are making Big Mama 3
Re: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness
I hope it does not conflict with my Big Mama/Madea fanfic. Justin On 2009-09-03, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: They are making Big Mama 3
[scifinoir2] comment: The FCC and broadband
Broadband companies have been petitioning the FCC this week to change the definition of what can be called broadband. That means that if they succeed that they can slow down the speed to 128k and still call it broadband. It is possible that ATT, Comcast and others are trying to change the definition so they don't have to spend money bringing broadband to rural customers. Many of whom don't receive anything or very slow dialup. This way they can squeak by and pocket the rest of the money that Obama is offering them. Meanwhile in Japan and Europe they have 80megbits per second speeds. Did you know that we are ranked at 19th in the world for internet speed? Here is a video on it: http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/theloop/68292/FCC-Broadband-Speed-Limit-Debate.html -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness
There was a Big Mama 2? Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:15:26 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness They are making Big Mama 3
[scifinoir2] topic: silly movie ideas
Now that Disney has bought Marvel what horrible combinations do you think that we will see? Here are a couple off the top of my head: Wolverine and Shrek adventures Mickey Mouse / Xmen races
Re: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness
I think I just threw up in my mouth. B --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 6:15 PM They are making Big Mama 3
Re: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason...
I can see a cooking with Quark or a Guinan: Mother Love type of show. --Lavender From: Milton Davis Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason... Man, I don't know what you're talking about. I can't wait for the recipe to Klingon Fried Chicken! --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: [scifinoir2] I give you one more reason... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:33 PM ... to loathe All That Is Siffy. Syfy Channel Getting A Cooking Show? http://io9.com/ 5351045/syfy- channel-getting- a-cooking- show?skyline= trues=i Martin (again abandoning all hope) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.
Re: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness
OK how about Big Mama meets Madea, that would be a ender. How about a title, You can really do bad by yourself. --Lavender From: Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:15 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] adding to the sequel madness They are making Big Mama 3 People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.
Re: [scifinoir2] topic: silly movie ideas
Chip and Dales rescue rangers/Fantastic 4 --Lavender From: Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:18 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] topic: silly movie ideas Now that Disney has bought Marvel what horrible combinations do you think that we will see? Here are a couple off the top of my head: Wolverine and Shrek adventures Mickey Mouse / Xmen races People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.
Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category
It was also rushed to the theatre, which is why it's so short and feels unfinished - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:39:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category I agree. I just watched it again a couple of weeks ago and almost fell asleep. There seems to be something that was cut out that probably helped the story along, but it was very dry like a bad turkey dinner. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I found MIB2 to be a bit boring... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 12:05:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category Easy for me. MiB3. (Did *not* intend for that to rhyme...) At least I enjoy that franchise. The first Bad Boys was mindless entertainment. The second was *pain*. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:05:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category This project has a 50% chance of being a lot of fun. That 50% hinges on whether or not Michael Bay decides not to do it. Michael Bay is wy to disconnected to do an enjoyable cop-based action movie. This Transformers stuff has just taken him to another place, and I don't think any of us want to go there with him. Anymore. There are a few directors, Carl Franklin being one, who I would like to see take on this story and make it into something. Make it grow. Will Smith is the biggest movie star in the world. He is either going to do this...or Men In Black 3. It's GOING to happen. Which would you rather? On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Deity, why hast thou forsaken us? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 03:45:35 + Subject: [scifinoir2] From the Please let them be wrong! Category You have got to be kidding! I almost walked out of the second Bad Boys, so bad it was with crappy writing, unfunny jokes, over-the-top-but-unmoving noise and explosions. I thought it was the ultimate exercise in bad Hollywood movie making: a film that was louder, more violent, more full of car stuff, more--more-- than anything out at the time. Instead it just made me feel numbed. The worst mix of Smith and Lawrence telling lame jokes (I was offended at the comments made at female corpses' breast), Bay at his directing worse. Even managed to waste Gabriel Union (her chase scene in that van actually had me and my wife laughing). And we're recently talking about the fear that Hollywood will go even further down the path of abandoning high concept films, good dramas, and original properties in favor of endless sequels, comic-to-movie adaptations, and low budget, high profit comedies and horror flicks. We hear that only the likes of Smith will continue to get big salaries. I was even watching Leonardo Di Caprio on Charlie Rose recently saying how it was getting harder to make a good drama unless it had a lot of action and appealed to key demographics. This is a key example of that unfortunate trend. I will *not* be in the seats for this one, if the rumours prove to be true. *** http://www.hollywoo dreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3if39271c89709c28eceb20163c74fc6f4 'Bad Boys 3' in the works Peter Craig will write the screenplay By Borys Kit Aug 30, 2009, 11:00 PM ET Columbia Pictures is developing a third installment of the high-octane Bad Boys franchise, tapping Peter Craig to pen the screenplay. The hope is to have a script that would reunite director Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and stars Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. At this point, with the project in the early stages, none has a deal to return. The Boys movies feature Smith and Lawrence as Miami detectives Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett, caught up in cases involving car chases and explosions. The first Boys, released in 1995, helped launch Bay as a director and Smith as an action star even though it was not a fire-stamped blockbuster -- it grossed $66 million domestically and $141 million worldwide. The sequel, released in 2003 when Bay and Smith's stars had risen, grossed $138 million domestically and $273 million
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
amazing - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:59:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion Sorry dude... here is an article on it. http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hilll/archive/2009/06/17/with-toy-story-3-cars-2-and-monsters-inc-2-now-in-the-works-why-no-incredibles-2.aspx On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Please tell me that's just a rumour! Surely they wouldn't have put the kibosh on what would have been such a great film! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:26:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion Wasn't there supposed to be a part 2 of the incredibles but it got shelved? On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:54 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: *ahem* The Incredibles *ahem* I was thinking more along the lines of a Fantastic Four or Avengers film done by Brad Bird or some of the other Pixar folks who are big comic heads. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: Yes we can have Finding Wolverine, The Punisher, Inc. or A Hulk's Life. AAHHH KILL ME NOW B --- On Mon, 8/31/09, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote: From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:22 AM Nope. Fox still owns Toby and the Spider-Man film franchise. One silver lining: Part of the deal involves possible Marvel-Pixar collaborations. Yes --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher. Excuse me while I go catatonic... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube . com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: ravenadal@ . Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is the death knell for a lot of great characters. ~(no)rave! August 31, 2009, 9:27 am Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock. Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' share prices on Friday. Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include Iron Man and the X-Men. Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their production. This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement. Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said. _ _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive . com/Campaign/ SocialNetworking ?ocid=PID23285: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:SI_SB_ facebook: 082009
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
Amazing, but I respect the heck out of Bird for not wanting to just churn out sequels to make more dough... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:59:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion Sorry dude... here is an article on it. http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hilll/archive/2009/06/17/with-toy-story-3-cars-2-and-monsters-inc-2-now-in-the-works-why-no-incredibles-2.aspx On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Please tell me that's just a rumour! Surely they wouldn't have put the kibosh on what would have been such a great film! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:26:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion Wasn't there supposed to be a part 2 of the incredibles but it got shelved? On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:54 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: *ahem* The Incredibles *ahem* I was thinking more along the lines of a Fantastic Four or Avengers film done by Brad Bird or some of the other Pixar folks who are big comic heads. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: Yes we can have Finding Wolverine, The Punisher, Inc. or A Hulk's Life. AAHHH KILL ME NOW B --- On Mon, 8/31/09, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote: From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:22 AM Nope. Fox still owns Toby and the Spider-Man film franchise. One silver lining: Part of the deal involves possible Marvel-Pixar collaborations. Yes --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher. Excuse me while I go catatonic... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube . com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: ravenadal@ . Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is the death knell for a lot of great characters. ~(no)rave! August 31, 2009, 9:27 am Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock. Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' share prices on Friday. Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include Iron Man and the X-Men. Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their production. This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement. Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said. _ _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on Facebook. http://windowslive . com/Campaign/
Re: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone
I'm too depressed to comment. I was with Milestone from the first issues of Hardware, Static (Don't Start None, and there won't be None!), Blood Syndicate, then later, My Name is Holocaust, Shadow Cabinet, Xombi. Great stuff, great to see black people in major roles in comics. Hell, great to see a black female character finally drawn with a *butt*! I was heartbroken when Milestone died, and cautiously optimistic when DC pulled this deal. I just never felt that a company that caters to the mainstream was going to be able, capable, or willing to treat characters of color with respect, and guess I was right. Damn shame. I do wonder though, why did the guys license away all their rights wholesale? Why the hell not work out a deal where they could lease them out temporarily, or only for specific projects? But to give away all rights in perpetuity to your creations--not a good move! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:58:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone http://selux.notlong.com DC Screws McDuffie and Buries Milestone Source: Pop Culture Shock Pop Culture Shock posted a great article here about the plight of Dwayne McDuffie and the Milestone characters. I am not going to go over the ins and outs of the events leading up to the subject of the article, but to summarize my understanding is that DC signed McDuffie to write for the JLA, and then handcuffed him by taking away the Big 3 (Supes, Bats, and WW) and then basically limiting him to the C,D and E team characters. As part of DCs overall deal with McDuffie, they also acquired the Milestone line of characters, including Static. Obviously, due to the popularity of Static, its apparent that the whole thing was to get control of Static for use in the DC universe. EDIT: BTW-check out the Pop Culture Shock link because it has an interview with McDuffie about the whole ordeal. http://www.popcultureshock.com/didio-plans-milestoners-static/50200/ I am pretty sure that DC's committment to integrating the Milestone characters into the DC universe was a temporary ruse. It seems that DC is notorius for picking up popular characters and comic lines just so they can't be used anywhere else. So, here we have DC picking up Milestone and deciding not to use the characters at all, except for the one they wanted: Static (now appearing as a member of Teen Titans). The end result being that McDuffie can't even use or license those characters to anyone else (Marvel), or use them in a relaunch of Milestone (not saying that was likely, but the time IMO is right). DC takes the characters and places them on the shelf. Can't say I'm not surprised to see McDuffie get screwed over by DC. It isn't like they were very welcoming from the get go. I remember how hyped I was when Milestone first started. Comic books for black people by black people. Recently, I evengot copies of every single Milestone comic. It was revolutionary and those guys were ahead of their time. It was also giving black artists and writers who weren't getting gigs at Marvel and DC a place to showcase their talent and many careers were launched as a result. At that time there wasn't a lot of support for Milestone, and it didn't stay around long enough. But I think that now would be the ideal time for something like Milestone. With the success of Blade and Will Smith at the box office, the rise of the webcomics and iPhone comic viewers, and the future of comic distribution, I have no doubt that Milestone would have been successful on a relaunch. I know that McDuffie Friends hold these characters dear to their hearts (and wallets) and I know that they ultimately bear the responsibilty(DC probably gave them a boatload of money) for the fuckery that DC is perpetuating against them (just because I pay for the sex, doesn't mean I want to get raped). So, here's to you DC, for showing your ass once again.
Re: [scifinoir2] Hudson Joins Heroes Cast
One question, as I missed the entire last season: did they bring back a cool black male character who's over 12 in age? - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:03:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Hudson Joins Heroes Cast http://scifi.about.com/b/2009/08/16/hudson-joins-heroes-cast.htm Hudson Joins Heroes Cast Sunday August 16, 2009 The genial yet authoritative Ernie Hudson (Oz, Ghostbusters) will be joining Heroes in a recurring role. And he's playing a detective. Again. Hudson will be playing Captain Lubbock, a Baltimore cop who's seeking to capture one of the other characters. This follows the previous key casting announcement for the upcoming fourth season of Heroes, which introduces a new storyline about a traveling carnival of people with special powers, run by a charismatic but evil Earth-moving ringleader (Robert Knepper). And yes, it's true: they're working on Ghostbusters III for 2012 – with the original cast. The new writers are Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky (The Office, Year One). That could work, if the humor leans more toward the former than the latter. Dan Ackroyd says filming could start as soon as this winter. The plan is for it to be a passing-the-torch kind of movie, which is what you might expect so many years on from the original films.
Re: [scifinoir2] comment: The FCC and broadband
you can't change broadband's definition that easily--or shouldn't be able too. That'd be like redifining a T1 as 56 kbps - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: politicalpe...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:57:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] comment: The FCC and broadband Broadband companies have been petitioning the FCC this week to change the definition of what can be called broadband. That means that if they succeed that they can slow down the speed to 128k and still call it broadband. It is possible that ATT, Comcast and others are trying to change the definition so they don't have to spend money bringing broadband to rural customers. Many of whom don't receive anything or very slow dialup. This way they can squeak by and pocket the rest of the money that Obama is offering them. Meanwhile in Japan and Europe they have 80megbits per second speeds. Did you know that we are ranked at 19th in the world for internet speed? Here is a video on it: http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/theloop/68292/FCC-Broadband-Speed-Limit-Debate.html -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/