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I'm extremely beyond well aware of that, given about 90% of my friends fit into that category. What I'm saying is that there are swingers out there who are using the name poly to define their actions, and that's not right. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Swingers are not poly. They are 180 degrees different than poly. Poly people have on going lasting relationships, swingers are in it for the sex. Anything over 15 minutes is a long time for a swinger. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the NRE (new relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else. I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the wrong reasons and really ought to either be called swingers or casual daters. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is sleeping around. Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments. I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and must be met, that relationship to me is over. My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for anyone else's lifestyle... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices
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people keep getting this wrong if you're bi that means you do both. best example the ole down loe brothas. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixon http://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Basshttp://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638-- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the causehttp://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtmlduring her turn on the Donald Trump http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501-judged show Celebrity Apprentice http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539.
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live in seattle and that seems to be tghe cach all phrase now. Me i'm still in the camp of you're just damn greedy with a side helping of boy could i have some of that.. but of the 3 situations that i know of they've been stable for more than 2years now. which is something to feel good about On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Fascinating. I really wonder if poly relationships can truly ever be stable? As you say, there are those who enter into them initially simply for the thrill, for the excitement. And, once given the permission or chance to find NRE, some would just become junkies of the excitement of finding new thrills all the time. Seems to me it'd make it hard to build the bedrock relationship of trust and true love --something not based on the physical, lust, new thrills--that are required for a decades-long relationship. I'm assuming here the goal is a lifetime partnership, which of course it may not be for everyone. and if so, better to acknowledge and realize it. Though a Christian with traditional views of marriage, I tell my friends all the time that there are two things no person should feel obligated to do: Get married, and have children. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:05:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the NRE (new relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else. I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the wrong reasons and really ought to either be called swingers or casual daters. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is sleeping around. Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments. I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and must be met, that relationship to me is over. My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for anyone else's lifestyle... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any
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A few years back I think a bi woman would have been more controversial, but nowadays it isn't as shocking. Bi and gay men still have problems though especially in the black community. The DL brothas is a completely different issue though. Some of them do not categorize themselves as gay or bi more from denial than from anything else. (this is based mostly from conversations that I had with a few of them in the early 2000s) One person in particular hadn't had a relationship with a woman for 10 years but still considered himself straight. Let's not talk about the complete denial of not practicing safe sex. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.comwrote: people keep getting this wrong if you're bi that means you do both. best example the ole down loe brothas. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixonhttp://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638 -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the causehttp://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtmlduring her turn on the Donald Trump http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501-judged show Celebrity Apprentice http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
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I was in a triad for about 15 years, and a poly grouping for about 3 so it can be done. Poly folks still have all of the same issues in relationships that other people have, but for the most part they are more willing to have a dialog about the sexual component of the relationship. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:26 PM, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.comwrote: live in seattle and that seems to be tghe cach all phrase now. Me i'm still in the camp of you're just damn greedy with a side helping of boy could i have some of that.. but of the 3 situations that i know of they've been stable for more than 2years now. which is something to feel good about On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Fascinating. I really wonder if poly relationships can truly ever be stable? As you say, there are those who enter into them initially simply for the thrill, for the excitement. And, once given the permission or chance to find NRE, some would just become junkies of the excitement of finding new thrills all the time. Seems to me it'd make it hard to build the bedrock relationship of trust and true love --something not based on the physical, lust, new thrills--that are required for a decades-long relationship. I'm assuming here the goal is a lifetime partnership, which of course it may not be for everyone. and if so, better to acknowledge and realize it. Though a Christian with traditional views of marriage, I tell my friends all the time that there are two things no person should feel obligated to do: Get married, and have children. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:05:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the NRE (new relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else. I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the wrong reasons and really ought to either be called swingers or casual daters. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is sleeping around. Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments. I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and must be met, that relationship to me is over. My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for anyone
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The DL trend is something homegrown out of black culture. Sympathetic assassins that are in many ways evil and in the same ways victims themselves. Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: A few years back I think a bi woman would have been more controversial, but nowadays it isn't as shocking. Bi and gay men still have problems though especially in the black community. The DL brothas is a completely different issue though. Some of them do not categorize themselves as gay or bi more from denial than from anything else. (this is based mostly from conversations that I had with a few of them in the early 2000s) One person in particular hadn't had a relationship with a woman for 10 years but still considered himself straight. Let's not talk about the complete denial of not practicing safe sex. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.comwrote: people keep getting this wrong if you're bi that means you do both. best example the ole down loe brothas. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixonhttp://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638 -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the
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Well, I'm from San Francisco and I can assure you that it is not just black guys doing that. It took me a while when I was younger to be able to use a public restroom in some areas because they were all cruising spots. It goes back to the 1800s. I will agree that the denial piece is something that is black homegrown. There are a lot of grown black men (and women) that are married with families that have been living a double life that are too afraid to come out of the closet. I think part of the problem rests with the black community. If our community wasn't so combative toward gay people then we wouldn't have to deal with this issue. It self perpetuates. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: The DL trend is something homegrown out of black culture. Sympathetic assassins that are in many ways evil and in the same ways victims themselves. Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: A few years back I think a bi woman would have been more controversial, but nowadays it isn't as shocking. Bi and gay men still have problems though especially in the black community. The DL brothas is a completely different issue though. Some of them do not categorize themselves as gay or bi more from denial than from anything else. (this is based mostly from conversations that I had with a few of them in the early 2000s) One person in particular hadn't had a relationship with a woman for 10 years but still considered himself straight. Let's not talk about the complete denial of not practicing safe sex. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com wrote: people keep getting this wrong if you're bi that means you do both. best example the ole down loe brothas. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcement http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquin http://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual medium http://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton John http://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientation http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the City http://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixon http://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638 -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly after
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Only two years? Dang, is that the mark of a stable relationship nowadays? :) My late parents were married for fifty-two years at the time of my dad's death. I just celebrated my eighteenth wedding anniversary this past February. - Original Message - From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2010 5:26:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video live in seattle and that seems to be tghe cach all phrase now. Me i'm still in the camp of you're just damn greedy with a side helping of boy could i have some of that.. but of the 3 situations that i know of they've been stable for more than 2years now. which is something to feel good about On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Fascinating. I really wonder if poly relationships can truly ever be stable? As you say, there are those who enter into them initially simply for the thrill, for the excitement. And, once given the permission or chance to find NRE, some would just become junkies of the excitement of finding new thrills all the time. Seems to me it'd make it hard to build the bedrock relationship of trust and true love --something not based on the physical, lust, new thrills--that are required for a decades-long relationship. I'm assuming here the goal is a lifetime partnership, which of course it may not be for everyone. and if so, better to acknowledge and realize it. Though a Christian with traditional views of marriage, I tell my friends all the time that there are two things no person should feel obligated to do: Get married, and have children. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:05:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the NRE (new relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else. I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the wrong reasons and really ought to either be called swingers or casual daters. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is sleeping around. Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments. I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence
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Swingers are not poly. They are 180 degrees different than poly. Poly people have on going lasting relationships, swingers are in it for the sex. Anything over 15 minutes is a long time for a swinger. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the NRE (new relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else. I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the wrong reasons and really ought to either be called swingers or casual daters. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is sleeping around. Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments. I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and must be met, that relationship to me is over. My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for anyone else's lifestyle... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't subscribe to those thoughts. What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a whole half of her needs? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent
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I didn't mean to imply that y'all are not monogamous, sorry if it came off that way. That ain't the topic at all and wasn't my concern. Faith and fidelity aren't based on sexual preference. As for foot in mouth, rest assured that from me you'll get just frank open questions that might expose some ignorance about topics, but never judgement or condemnation. Speaking strictly for myself, I meant I'd be concerned if someone finds things appealing from men and women, then what about those things I can't provide? It's one thing, for example, for me to deal with my wife as I get older, things start drooping or greying, perhaps we're in a rough spot where the passion's dying down. Maybe in some marriages you worry that another man will catch that person's eye. But at least if it's another man I know what to expect, what to fight, what to compete against. What if my partner really finds women appealing and quite simply is just missing something I can't provide? Then what? Is it reasonable to assume that if someone finds women strongly attactive, that person will be happy getting only what I as a man can give for perhaps 50 - 60 years? (I am a strong believer in lifelong marriage for those who desire it). Again, not to judge, but to ask: isn't that asking that person to deny a real part of his or her desires for a lifetime? For example, I tend to like old-school curvacious women. I'm fortunate to be married to one, but if my wife had been taller and thinner, or shorter and heavier, I'd still have loved her because she's a great lady, and there's sexiness in all body types. So, I may not have gotten the perfect form for me, but at least it's still in the same range. I wouldn't spend the rest of my life saying man, I got this skinny woman and I really need me a Coke-bottle body! But if I desired something from men, there'd be nothing my wife had that could fill that need. In such a case, can a person be satisfied with effectively half the equation for decades on end? Hope the foot didn't get implanted in mouth on this! - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 5:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Just because you're bisexual doesn't mean you're not monogamous. We're not going to cheat any more than a straight person would cheat with everyone of the opposite gender. Please note that we before you reply. There's a foot about to go into that mouth, and I'd like to catch it. ;) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides.
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There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't subscribe to those thoughts. What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a whole half of her needs? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:39:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are really gay) That is a myth. The flip side of that is there another myth that the person that is gay is secretly straight. Both cloud the real issue of insecurity. The cure for insecurity is trust. I don't expect folks in this group to totally understand what I'm talking about because this group isn't an alternative sexuality one, but I know what I'm talking about. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides. But I hear what you're saying. By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less difficult with another woman. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:00:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcement on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood star Anna Paquin used an unusual medium of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton John , Clay Aiken , and Wanda Sykes , Paquin declared her sexual orientation in a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper 's Give a Damn Campaign , which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the City actor Cynthia Nixon (who came out in 2006 ), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian , and Sharon and Kelly Osbourne . Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers
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This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't subscribe to those thoughts. What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a whole half of her needs? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:39:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are really gay) That is a myth. The flip side of that is there another myth that the person that is gay is secretly straight. Both cloud the real issue of insecurity. The cure for insecurity is trust. I don't expect folks in this group to totally understand what I'm talking about because this group isn't an alternative sexuality one, but I know what I'm talking about. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides. But I hear what you're saying. By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less difficult with another woman. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:00:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two
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At the risk of sounding selfish, I'd ask to make certain that I didn't have that competition in the relationship. If the possibility was there, then I'm out. I've never entered a relationship in 28 years of adulthood with the intention of looking for other opportunities. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't subscribe to those thoughts. What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a whole half of her needs? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:39:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are really gay) That is a myth. The flip side of that is there another myth that the person that is gay is secretly straight. Both cloud the real issue of insecurity. The cure for insecurity is trust. I don't expect folks in this group to totally understand what I'm talking about because this group isn't an alternative sexuality one, but I know what I'm talking about. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides. But I hear what you're saying. By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less difficult with another woman. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:00:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp
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I have friends who are poly, and they manage to work it out nicely. I personally think that an equal triad is the most stable poly relationship out there, and with few exceptions they seem to thrive on relationship drama with one person bouncing to a new person repeatedly for the NRE (new relationship energy) that they crave when they get bored with someone else. I don't mean to be cynical; there are a lot of genuine, stable poly relationships out there. But I also have met people who are poly for all the wrong reasons and really ought to either be called swingers or casual daters. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is sleeping around. Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments. I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and must be met, that relationship to me is over. My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for anyone else's lifestyle... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't subscribe to those thoughts. What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a whole half of her needs? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:39:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are really gay
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Nor mine either, Keith. :) I'm a one-person kinda gal. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the one person at a time/one person for life school... Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into sharing partners, having so-called open relationships, etc. But again, that's just not my thing. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love more than one person at the same time. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and must be met, that relationship to me is over. My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for anyone else's lifestyle... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't subscribe to those thoughts. What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a whole half of her needs? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:39:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are really gay) That is a myth. The flip side of that is there another myth that the person that is gay is secretly straight. Both cloud the real issue of insecurity. The cure for insecurity is trust. I don't expect folks in this group to totally understand what I'm talking about because this group isn't an alternative sexuality one, but I know what I'm talking about. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides. But I hear what you're saying. By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less difficult with another woman. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf
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The answer as a bisexual is an emphatic yes. I don't need gender. I am perfectly content being with someone with whom I am in love with for the rest of my life, them and only them. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever?
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As always, i appreciate your understanding and patience. I think your attitude is different from others I've read on this subject. Not to get too indelicate, but when I say there are different needs, there are--ahem--anatomical differences, biological differences, between genders. I'm pretty sure that results in different experiences, and I can't provide the same in toto as a woman. Other things I've read, other people I've known in this situation, suggest that's an issue. But as you say, it's a big world full of all kinds of people, so it doesn't have to apply to you. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:04:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I didn't mean to imply that y'all are not monogamous, sorry if it came off that way. That ain't the topic at all and wasn't my concern. Faith and fidelity aren't based on sexual preference. As for foot in mouth, rest assured that from me you'll get just frank open questions that might expose some ignorance about topics, but never judgement or condemnation. S'all good. :) I just have to deal with a lot of bi-prejudice from straights AND gays, and it can find me on the defensive sometimes. But if I desired something from men, there'd be nothing my wife had that could fill that need. In such a case, can a person be satisfied with effectively half the equation for decades on end? But that's what I can't wrap my brain around: why would someone desire something from a *gender*? That to me is like saying Oh, I miss being with a blonde versus a brunette! I am attracted to people, not gender. There's nothing missing that I would crave elsewhere unless the relationship itself was unfulfilling. Perhaps not all bisexuals are like me, but at the same time not all bisexuals need a gender. And it's why I tend to avoid the label bisexual altogether. It also implies a polarity of gender I do not feel exists, but that's a whole other topic. Hope the foot didn't get implanted in mouth on this! Nah, I hear ya. I used to feel similarly until I understood the sexuality spectrum better, and that what people need is typically found in the person themselves, not in their pants. :) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
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I wonder if your feelings are in the majority? I know some who'd definitely disagree, saying the physical differences between men and women are what they crave, and they'd miss the unique physical bonding of one if they tried to stay with the other forever. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:08:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video The answer as a bisexual is an emphatic yes. I don't need gender. I am perfectly content being with someone with whom I am in love with for the rest of my life, them and only them. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever?
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that's an issue: that people are people. I have a friend who's been talking for weeks to a gay man about that world. She's learned some interesting things from him, but I did caution her that he's one man, with one black man's view of gay life in Atlanta, and can't possibly speak for all gays. For one thing, there are real issues and differences between black and white gay men in Atlanta. For another, he comes from a traditional Southern, Christian, black background that may shape and influence his behavior and feelings way differently than a gay man with a completely different background. Given his upbringing, for example, i can detect in his words--even third hand from her--a bit of guilt, defensiveness, even anger at the way he sometimes has to conduct his life. To your point, I cautioned her that he may have some hangups coloring his perceptions or experiences, and not to use just one man's views as the definitive description of gay life. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video I dunno. The way I see it is this: either you're in love with someone or you're not. To say that someone needs something outside of a relationship is essentially to say that they're incapable of being monogamous. Maybe you've run into some real jerks who are all about the style and not about the substance. In any case, people are jerks, not bisexuals. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: As always, i appreciate your understanding and patience. I think your attitude is different from others I've read on this subject. Not to get too indelicate, but when I say there are different needs, there are--ahem--anatomical differences, biological differences, between genders. I'm pretty sure that results in different experiences, and I can't provide the same in toto as a woman. Other things I've read, other people I've known in this situation, suggest that's an issue. But as you say, it's a big world full of all kinds of people, so it doesn't have to apply to you. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:04:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I didn't mean to imply that y'all are not monogamous, sorry if it came off that way. That ain't the topic at all and wasn't my concern. Faith and fidelity aren't based on sexual preference. As for foot in mouth, rest assured that from me you'll get just frank open questions that might expose some ignorance about topics, but never judgement or condemnation. S'all good. :) I just have to deal with a lot of bi-prejudice from straights AND gays, and it can find me on the defensive sometimes. But if I desired something from men, there'd be nothing my wife had that could fill that need. In such a case, can a person be satisfied with effectively half the equation for decades on end? But that's what I can't wrap my brain around: why would someone desire something from a *gender*? That to me is like saying Oh, I miss being with a blonde versus a brunette! I am attracted to people, not gender. There's nothing missing that I would crave elsewhere unless the relationship itself was unfulfilling. Perhaps not all bisexuals are like me, but at the same time not all bisexuals need a gender. And it's why I tend to avoid the label bisexual altogether. It also implies a polarity of gender I do not feel exists, but that's a whole other topic. Hope the foot didn't get implanted in mouth on this! Nah, I hear ya. I used to feel similarly until I understood the sexuality spectrum better, and that what people need is typically found in the person themselves, not in their pants. :) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
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Again, fascinating. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:29:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video The majority of bisexuals whom I've spoken to agree with me. People who are wrapped up in physical stuff sound non-monogamous and potentially shallow. Like I said, either you're in love or you're not. It's one thing to be attracted to other people, but it's another to want to act on that and harm the person whom you're with. Again, don't grok it, can't wrap my head around it, it's Chinese to me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I wonder if your feelings are in the majority? I know some who'd definitely disagree, saying the physical differences between men and women are what they crave, and they'd miss the unique physical bonding of one if they tried to stay with the other forever. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2010 1:08:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video The answer as a bisexual is an emphatic yes. I don't need gender. I am perfectly content being with someone with whom I am in love with for the rest of my life, them and only them. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever?
[scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video
Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcement on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood star Anna Paquin used an unusual medium of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton John , Clay Aiken , and Wanda Sykes , Paquin declared her sexual orientation in a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper 's Give a Damn Campaign , which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the City actor Cynthia Nixon (who came out in 2006 ), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian , and Sharon and Kelly Osbourne . Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly after the news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linked with actor Kieran Culkin . In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyer announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the cause during her turn on the Donald Trump -judged show Celebrity Apprentice .
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There's a guy I can't forward this to, and hope that he never takes note of it, or I'll be on cyclic suicide watch for some time to come. He's mental for her, about her age, had a huge crush on her when she was in The Piano. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixon http://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Basshttp://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638-- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the causehttp://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtmlduring her turn on the Donald Trump http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501-judged show Celebrity Apprentice http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539.
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She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixon http://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Basshttp://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638-- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the causehttp://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtmlduring her turn on the Donald Trump http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501-judged show Celebrity Apprentice http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Disappointed why? She's *bi*. They should already be disappointed given she's engaged to the guy who plays Bill Compton!! ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixon http://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Basshttp://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638-- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the causehttp://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtmlduring her turn on the Donald Trump http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501-judged show Celebrity Apprentice http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539.
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Poor guy! I imagine there are dudes like that who lament every time Ellen Degeneres picks up a new girlfriend. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 2:24:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video There's a guy I can't forward this to, and hope that he never takes note of it, or I'll be on cyclic suicide watch for some time to come. He's mental for her, about her age, had a huge crush on her when she was in The Piano. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcement on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood star Anna Paquin used an unusual medium of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton John , Clay Aiken , and Wanda Sykes , Paquin declared her sexual orientation in a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper 's Give a Damn Campaign , which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the City actor Cynthia Nixon (who came out in 2006 ), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian , and Sharon and Kelly Osbourne . Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly after the news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linked with actor Kieran Culkin . In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyer announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the cause during her turn on the Donald Trump -judged show Celebrity Apprentice .
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Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides. But I hear what you're saying. By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less difficult with another woman. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:00:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcement on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood star Anna Paquin used an unusual medium of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton John , Clay Aiken , and Wanda Sykes , Paquin declared her sexual orientation in a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper 's Give a Damn Campaign , which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the City actor Cynthia Nixon (who came out in 2006 ), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian , and Sharon and Kelly Osbourne . Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly after the news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linked with actor Kieran Culkin . In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyer announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the cause during her turn on the Donald Trump -judged show Celebrity Apprentice . -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Guess it's just the old-fashioned guys like me that want to only have to worry about one side or the other being a potential threat! :) - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:44:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video Disappointed why? She's *bi*. They should already be disappointed given she's engaged to the guy who plays Bill Compton!! ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcement on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood star Anna Paquin used an unusual medium of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton John , Clay Aiken , and Wanda Sykes , Paquin declared her sexual orientation in a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper 's Give a Damn Campaign , which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the City actor Cynthia Nixon (who came out in 2006 ), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian , and Sharon and Kelly Osbourne . Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly after the news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linked with actor Kieran Culkin . In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyer announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the cause during her turn on the Donald Trump -judged show Celebrity Apprentice .
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Just because you're bisexual doesn't mean you're not monogamous. We're not going to cheat any more than a straight person would cheat with everyone of the opposite gender. Please note that we before you reply. There's a foot about to go into that mouth, and I'd like to catch it. ;) ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides.
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Not the guy I know, Mr Worf. he's VERY over-possessive. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixonhttp://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638 -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the causehttp://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtmlduring her turn on the Donald Trump http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501-judged show Celebrity Apprentice http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are really gay) That is a myth. The flip side of that is there another myth that the person that is gay is secretly straight. Both cloud the real issue of insecurity. The cure for insecurity is trust. I don't expect folks in this group to totally understand what I'm talking about because this group isn't an alternative sexuality one, but I know what I'm talking about. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with someone who's not totally committed. It's hard enough to have to keep tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to both sides. But I hear what you're saying. By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less difficult with another woman. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:00:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixonhttp://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638 -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes
