CSAbout Transformer Coils
Hi: Does anybody knows which one is the Indifferent pole (or Indifferential) of a secondary coil. And how to tell it apart from the Different pole? Regards Peter R -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHuh??
Re: CSHuh?? * From: mamapug wrote: * Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:17:25 I take them off by turning them inside-out and then drop them out the window. I travel with two Mormons, one to open the doors of the gas station and the other to open and close the doors of the loo. Dan So, Dan are you being anti-Mormon here, or something?? For sure, you are a litterbug! Marshalee, a 4th generation Latter Day Saint... _ No, I am being Howard Hughes-like. Excessive concern about germs can apparently become pathological. Dan PS I would call that humor - but I'm sure it's a little too wry for some... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDigital O Ring
Oh, I see.. Two word definition: Finger Kinesiology Dan * RE: CSDigital O Ring * From: Vince Richter (view other messages by this author) * Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:33:04 http://www.baobab.or.jp/~oring/e_index.shtml -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:na...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDigital O Ring Johnathan, Can you give a brief description of the Bi-Digital O-Ring test, etc? I have tried to look up stuff on this a couple of times and have only come up with what seemed - to me- giberish. Thanks, Dan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cselectric recluse spider bite
Marshall; Like it or not, it is you who are incorrect. I would refer you to any Motors Manual or Chilton's for a description of the standard and the transistorized or capacitive discharge systems of auto ignition. For a good textbook on the subject I'd recommend The Automobile Electrical System 2nd Ed. by Barr, Randolph R. and Thomas D. Flocco. Chilton Book Company; Radnor, PA. Short form: In the conventional or breaker-point ignition system the primary voltage generated by the rapid collapse of the primary winding's magnetic field is approximately 200 to 300 volts; this collapse is considerably more rapid than the originating field buildup, hence the higher voltage. The ignition coil is a transformer of approximately 100 to 1 turns ratio, thus 20,000 to 30,000 volts is induced in the secondary winding, which is more than sufficient to produce a spark at the spark plug. Under normal conditions of rapid cycling of this system to supply ignition, and the generation of considerable heat in the coil and under the hood, the system was just about at it's upper functional limit. The Transistorized and/or capacitive discharge systems were a sorely needed improvement which relieved the distributor points of massive intermittent loads and arcing due to back EMF, leaving them the much easier duty of signalling a transistor or SCR to turn on and off the current to the coil's primary winding. This they could do even more rapidly than the opening points did, producing higher primary collapse voltages up to 350. Eventually points were replaced entirely by optical or magnetic signalling devices which didn't wear - thus the 50,000 mile tuneup and considerably more accurate and competent ignition. There are no automotive ignition systems running 50,000 to 100,000 volts; not only is there no need for such a dangerous level, the corona discharge initiated by such would be extremely and rapidly destructive to the elements of the system, make the design of a distribution system for the spark considerably larger, more difficult and expensive, generate a great deal more RF interference, and be an absolute bear to keep functional in damp weather. The systems described did not rely on leakage inductance; perhaps you meant to say mutual-inductance and self-inductance. Leakage inductance is undesirable transfer out of the system of energy which escapes to the surrounding environment, degrading both the system and the environment. Leakage inductance does not contribute much at all to the 'time constant' in a decently designed system except by a tiny lowering of the circuit Q; the self-inductance of the primary winding retarded both its field buildup and collapse, and generated the 'back-EMF' that caused the points to arc and wear rapidly. One role of the condenser placed across the points was to absorb enough of this back EMF peak to discourage such arcing; another was to provide a resonant tank for multiple spark discharge (aka MSD,) in certain newer designs. Take care, Malcolm At 01:31 PM 10/26/03 -0500, you wrote: Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Oh Boy!! that's going to be quite a hit! The coil gets 12 volts from the ignition system, and generates perhaps 200 + volts on break due to inductive kickback or field collapse; what's going to happen when it gets 300 + volts and then the xenon tube extinguishes and break comes for that field? I realize the current is diminishing during the flash, guess I'll have to try it to find out - but I think I'll try it on the spider firstg. Take care, Malcolm That is incorrect. The spark coil is typically about a 50 or 100 to 1 transformer. When used in an old automobile, the points close, and a current builds up in the leakage inductance of the coil. This typically generates some voltage on the secondary, but not enough to cause a spark. Then when the points open the field collapses with a time constant set by the leakage inductance, and the small capacitor that is across the points. The result is that there is a voltage spike on the primary of the coil or about 1,000 volts, which show up at the secondary as a 50,000 to 100,000 volts. If you ever put a CD ignition on an old car you would know that they use a circuit very much like the one for the pulser, a high voltage controlled by an scr. Marshall At 10:56 AM 10/26/03 -0500, you wrote: BTW, anyone who has made a home made pulsar can easily make it to be a shocker as well. Instead of connecting the magnetic coil wound on a VHS spool to the unit, connect the primary of an old automobile spark coil to it. Easy, and convenient. Marshall bjh...@aol.com wrote: I have been told that you cannot use new automobiles to shock for venom. It will kill you. Maybe older vehicles were OK. We have used the spark plug wire from a 2 cylinder motor. We hold a metal rod (with heavy welder's gloves) stuck into the spark plug cover. We stand on a few layers of
Re: CSRE: CSRE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised footing?
I believe Herring Boxes Without Topses were the previously recommended footwear for such excursions. At 01:15 PM 10/26/03 -0600, you wrote: Upon stopping my car at the rest stop or gas station, I get a pair of latex gloves out of the glove box and put them on. When I get back into the car, I take them off by turning them inside-out and then drop them out the window. I travel with two Mormons, one to open the doors of the gas station and the other to open and close the doors of the loo. Also, I never travel without a couple of cleanex boxes which I place over my feet whenever going out of my car and remove before re-entering. Dan Re: CSRE: CSRE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? * From: d.linen (view other messages by this author) * Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:44:33 On doors that open outward, I push with my elbow to open it. DL Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Richard, R.e. the point about lavatories: when you go out, use a tissue or paper towel to open the door; toss the tissue backward into the trash can as you exit. Favored technique of careful epidemiologists and MDs. I kid you not. These people know what's on the doorknob . . . On Friday, Oct 24, 2003, at 22:26 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: Smith, Mike, I concur, You have the right and responsibility to treat yourself with something Natural (CS) that out performs the expensive antibiotics without any side effects or causing the pathogen to build antibodies, and with great economy! These are NOT my ideas, but come from a company's tests (performed by several US Universities) after having jumped through the hoops and proven in laboratory tests for approval by Ghana, West Africa FDA (see their website: ASAP silver source--click on read all references!) They now have millions of dollars in contracts in Africa, South America and the far-east and are authorized to treat: Tuberculosis (#1 killer); Malaria (#3 killer); Aids; and other terrible diseases that our own FDA ignores to protect the profits of the International Pharmaceutical Companies (who can't profit enough from CS want YOU to be ignorant and unable to make, obtain or use CS!) Since, I, like those who share valuable information on this and other CS sites are more interested in helping the unfortunate than making big bucks, I compliment you on having enough faith in your good, natural remedies to give them a chance to handle your problem--given these precautions: 1) Wash hands with soap CS solution after going to toilet or handling infected parts; 2) Don't wipe or rub other body parts, possible transferring bodily fluids; 3) NO sex or Too friendly activity until your cure is complete--you certainly don't want to spread this; 4) NO shaking hands; 5) You can determine other activities to refrain from until your cure. From using public restrooms, I have often observed men rushing in, relieving themselves rushing out without any pretense of handwashing. Most doors open inward and have a door handle which they can contaminate for others as they leave. I am friendly, trusting and loving toward others until they prove they aren't the same; and I have often considered wearing a loose sling over my shoulder in which to place my right hand; obviating hand shaking, but give a slight friendly left-hand wave. To date, I have refrained from this but feel it's not too far out. Too good Not to Share: A ditty describing a restaurant waiter approaching a customer: Oh what'll you have? the waiter said, calmly picking his nose! The observant customer replied, 2 hard-boiled eggs, you son of a gun, Cause you can't get your fingers on those! Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:06 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSRE: CSRE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? So those people who are battling HIV, Hep C, MS and Cancer etc by treating themselves with natural methods are messing around too? I want to beat this infection using natural methods without having to resort to anti-biotics which have always had a bad effect on me. I think I have that right. regards Mike -Original Message- From: David Bearrow [mailto:dav...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: CSRE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised oxygen? For gonorhea I wouldn't mess around. Get yourself to a doctor quickly and get some antibiotics prescribed to you! Smith, Michael m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com wrote: Thanks Rob for the suggestions. I'm actually in the process of ordering some GSE as well as some Olive leaf Extract as I've heard very good things about that too. If the CS, OLE, GSE combo doesn't do it for me - I'll also look into the terminator
RE: CSbladder infection
Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike - = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. =
RE: CSbladder infection
Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike - = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. =
Re: cs Zappers
Please see the SOTA website for details. The output for the Beck device is 31 volts produced by a nine volt battery. The Tools for Health site has a page explaining the differences between the devices. JBB On Monday, Oct 27, 2003, at 01:02 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Hi, Richard, Pardon, but I want to say again: The Beck device is a Silver Pulser; the Clarke device is a zapper.The distinction is important.The latter is 12 volts; the former is 31. The zapper is 9 volts, not 12. I don't believe the initial voltage is relevent as long as it is high enough. I have measured the waveforms on an oscilloscope when connected, and the voltage presented to the person is typically nor more than 5 volts due to the current limiting resistor that each of the employ. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
Vince, I am open-minded about the synchrometer and would LOVE to have a first-rate device to experiment with.You mention the need for one in a previous posting. If you ever hear of more about this, please share it with us.Self-testing muscle strength is not easy to do, either. We need a good, simple device.BTW I purchased an electronic muscle tester more than a year ago; I returned it because it was unreliable.When the right device comes along, it will change many people's lives. I would love to be an investor in a first-rate resonance testing device for molecular resonance phenomena. BTW there are some devices made in Israel that may one day make it into the health field; currently they are for counterfeit detection and bioterrorism work. JBB On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 15:22 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote: Do you use a syncrometer??Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There’s a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you’ve spent some time researching this. I wonder if you’ve been looking in the wrong places for “proof” and information? It’s there and not too hard to find…. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent:Saturday, October 25, 20031:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb
Re: cs Zappers
Hi, Richard, Soon SOTA will support only the Beck Pulser. They will drop the Clarke Zapper. You have gotten one of the last Clarke Zappers to be sold by SOTA. They now offer a second device for half price if you buy one. They sell both Beck and Clarke devices at present. Your device is a Clarke Zapper, which is not related to Beck's protocol. It puts out 12 volts as opposed to 31 volts.Both devices use 9 volt batteries. I am glad if the Clarke Zapper works for you. I think the Beck Pulser (blood electrification) protocol is more plausible, but I have no direct experience with either device. I use a TENS device (Omron) to experiment with blood electrification. I assume that if the Zapper devices work well, it must be through very slow blood electrification via the capillaries. The Beck device aims to get current into the arterial blood flow. Best, JBB On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 03:47 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks for your info, but my SOTA is the New Model ZHC5 @$110 US and is clearly identified as a Super square wave Zapper using a 9 v battery and peaks to 12 volts as long as the battery lasts. I'm tickled with it and my wife I alternate using it for about 2 hours a day at varying modes (1 thru 6). We've used it for a month without any recognizable benefits, but they advise that you give it a 90 day trial before making a judgment and we plan to do that. They also make a Pulser @$150 with which you can also generate CS. If you haven't done so, please call their 800# and request that they send you a list of products, which is also available on their website. My heart goes out to Dr. Clarke and her associates and I wish them well in their dealings with our wonderful anti-freedom bureaucracy. I am a Seasilver Associate and they have just gotten free from government intervention and bulldozing after 2 or 3 months being out of business. Hope DR. Clarke can be as fortunate. Seasilver had to make a few corrections in claims and advertising that some of their over-zealous personnel exaggerated about and helped make Seasilver be top of the FDA FTC list (due to their size)and now they're manufacturing and shipping like old times. SOTA has Beck's papers and have improved the Zapper I have--and much research indicates that lower current at varying times kHz Hz are much more effective in killing various parasites. Do YOU recommend the Silver Pulser over my Zapper? I would appreciate your outlook and ideas. Many thanks, Richard Harris, 56 yt FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi, Richard, Pardon, but I want to say again: The Beck device is a Silver Pulser; the Clarke device is a zapper.The distinction is important.The latter is 12 volts; the former is 31. SOTA is discontinuing the Clarke zapper to concentrate their energy on the Beck protocol. Clarke has her own legal problems and defense team; SOTA alone promotes and defends the Beck protocol. BTW, the latest SOTA Silver Pulser has built-in constant current CS capability. I want one for travel. At $150 it seems a fair price for a good product from a good company. See the what's new section of the SOTA site for details. Cheers, JBB On Friday, Oct 24, 2003, at 22:27 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: Hi Robb, You failed to address the inquirer you were answering--could have been me--thanks for your advice and patience with us seekers--my wife I use a SOTA (Beck) zapper it does have pulse a square wave (Super-Square Wave output circuitry) at several adjustable low-currents--uses a 9 v battery, but converts this to 12 volts and maintains 12 v even as the battery slowly drains down (this feature is not avbailable on any other known unit (This description is in their own words--Model # ZHC5 $110 + shipping). WE have yet to observe any positive effects; therefore my questions as to how when YOU know it's doing anything. Can and how would you use a meter or measurer to confirm the voltage? Thanks again--please let me know if I can be of help, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs Zappers The one that you are talking about isn't a zapper.it is a blood electrification devicezapper pulse a square wave positive offset signaland zappers also put out much less current..Robb - Original Message - From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: Re: cs Zappers Hi guys, I'm interested, at long last, in zappers. At this point I think I'd rather make one myself than shell out an extra $100, which I don't
Re: CSCS stains on counter tops
Silver nitrate will indeed stain just about anything it touches and you can produce silver nitrate with an HVAC setup. I think it's unlikely to produce any significant amount of silver nitrate with an LVDC setup. The nitrate comes from exposing air to a high voltage arc. [nitric acid plus silver] But silver ions cannot survive in open air, so any CS that has a high ionic content that is allowed to dry will form brown to black silver oxides. This is also what causes filters to change color. It's not a reaction with the paper as some think. Un bleached paper filters are already brown. Ode At 11:50 AM 10/25/2003 EDT, you wrote: Gee people, In the past, I had many stains on my white tile workbench from CS. When I started making CS without any SILVER NITRATE, guess what, NO STAINS! For want of a better cheap test, go to a store that sells aquarium supplies, They will have a Nitrate Test Kit for about $6.00. Test your CS, if you have Silver Nitrate, Find a way to make it without the nitrate! Dr. Bill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
Also try building supplies for copper flashing and roofing. Stop at a construction site where they're using it and ask for some scraps. Ode At 09:19 AM 10/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try http://www.danielsmith.com/ Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the had kind, but the kind that is easy to bend. One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4 will produce about a 2 3/8 wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. Then open it up to make a sheet out of it. Marshall Al Davis wrote: Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity. Cheap, too. Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references. Al Davis I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure copper and I'm just not getting there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
Brass is copper, tin and zinc. You probably don't want the tin. Ode At 10:02 AM 10/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: So: How does brasselectrodes fit into the scheme of things.. What is the chemical make-up of this metal??? Pretty inexpensive various thickness and widths. Available at most hobby shops??? Grant.. Sharon wrote: Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try http://www.danielsmith.com/ Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the had kind, but the kind that is easy to bend. One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4 will produce about a 2 3/8 wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. Then open it up to make a sheet out of it. Marshall Al Davis wrote: Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity. Cheap, too. Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references. Al Davis I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure copper and I'm just not getting there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea
Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea
Sorry for the multiple posts - my email system went all wacky on me regards Mike -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:51 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. =
Re: CSgenerating CS
If you put an ammeter in series with the output of the simple generator, you can make a 'close' to repeatable product. Run it to a certain point where you like what you made and send a sample to Ole Bob who will tell you what you have for a mere $7. Then you'll have an idea. www.harborfreight.com often has digital multimeters for $4 to $12 [includes ammeter function] I have 9 of them for $10 each including shipping. [might save you a buck or 2 if you're not ordering $50 worth of stuff to qualify for Harbor Freights free shipping. Even then you pay $7 for handleing] Ode At 02:52 PM 10/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: I have just spent hours looking for good generator instructions. I have a simple one, but have no idea what the strength of the CS I produce is. I like being able to give it to people, but dont feel comfortable when I dont have a way to know what I am giving them. I am not really in the financial situation to buy a good generator, but will if that is the only way. But that also puts me in the position to be having to supply others who cant afford to get a machine. sigh, I need richer friends So, anyway, my question is is there a good set of instructions that My electronic wiz friend and I can use to make a generator or 2 and not have to eat beans and rice for a week? thanks so much for all of the information that I get here. It makes me want to give it to everyone. CS has saved me from colds for years, I have had no need for any type of antibiotic since I had strep about 3 years ago. Life is good! -- anomie Will those that wish to proclaim that something is impossible to do, please refrain from disturbing those that are doing it. Good health is the vital principle of bliss. NAMTPT web site http://www.myofascialtherapy.org Pittsburgh School of Pain Management http://www.painschool.com Natural treatment for migraine and depression http://www.MigrainePrevention.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/migrainealternatives/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea
I hope that you have contacted the person who gave you gonorrhea and let them know they have it. At 06:06 AM 10/27/03, you wrote: Sorry for the multiple posts - my email system went all wacky on me regards Mike -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:51 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. =
RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea
Yes This was the first thing that I did!! Mike -Original Message- From: David Bearrow [mailto:dav...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea I hope that you have contacted the person who gave you gonorrhea and let them know they have it. At 06:06 AM 10/27/03, you wrote: Sorry for the multiple posts - my email system went all wacky on me regards Mike -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:51 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check
RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea
Oh and by the way David, do you ask the same question of everybody who asks for help or advice on the list with regards to their HIV infection, or Herpes or Hep C which they've contracted from someone else? I don't think so!! I'm sorry but I found your remark not only condescending but also rude and smacking of moral judgement!! Mike -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:15 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Yes This was the first thing that I did!! Mike -Original Message- From: David Bearrow [mailto:dav...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea I hope that you have contacted the person who gave you gonorrhea and let them know they have it. At 06:06 AM 10/27/03, you wrote: Sorry for the multiple posts - my email system went all wacky on me regards Mike -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:51 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender
Re: CSRe: DMSO in Canada
Linda Hefferman wrote: I am just writing to let others in Canada know that I did order from http://peakequine.com and my 16 ounces of dmso arrived within the week. Although I myself do not own a horse I did enter clydesdale in the questionaire they had on the site. If that is what it takes to get some dmso---so be it.Good health to all Linda J. Hefferman (ljheffer...@yahoo.ca) A Clydesdale! LOL. I have never seen them except on the Budwiezer wagon. .Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cselectric recluse spider bite
Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Marshall; Like it or not, it is you who are incorrect. I would refer you to any Motors Manual or Chilton's for a description of the standard and the transistorized or capacitive discharge systems of auto ignition. For a good textbook on the subject I'd recommend The Automobile Electrical System 2nd Ed. by Barr, Randolph R. and Thomas D. Flocco. Chilton Book Company; Radnor, PA. Who said anything about a transistorized system? I was talking about an old spark coil, from something like a 1960's car. Short form: In the conventional or breaker-point ignition system the primary voltage generated by the rapid collapse of the primary winding's magnetic field is approximately 200 to 300 volts; this collapse is considerably more rapid than the originating field buildup, hence the higher voltage. OK, that is exactly what I was saying. That when the points open there is a rapid collapse in the field that generates a voltage of serveral hundred volts, and that is what gets coupled to the secondary for the spark. The ignition coil is a transformer of approximately 100 to 1 turns ratio, thus 20,000 to 30,000 volts is induced in the secondary winding, Once again exactly what I said. which is more than sufficient to produce a spark at the spark plug. Under normal conditions of rapid cycling of this system to supply ignition, and the generation of considerable heat in the coil and under the hood, the system was just about at it's upper functional limit. The Transistorized and/or capacitive discharge systems were a sorely needed improvement which relieved the distributor points of massive intermittent loads and arcing due to back EMF, leaving them the much easier duty of signalling a transistor or SCR to turn on and off the current to the coil's primary winding. This they could do even more rapidly than the opening points did, producing higher primary collapse voltages up to 350. Eventually points were replaced entirely by optical or magnetic signalling devices which didn't wear - thus the 50,000 mile tuneup and considerably more accurate and competent ignition. So the transistor ignition works the same way as the stand one, so I am even correct for it as well. There are no automotive ignition systems running 50,000 to 100,000 volts; not only is there no need for such a dangerous level, the corona discharge initiated by such would be extremely and rapidly destructive to the elements of the system, make the design of a distribution system for the spark considerably larger, more difficult and expensive, generate a great deal more RF interference, and be an absolute bear to keep functional in damp weather. OK, so I am a little high on the output voltage. That was not what the message was about, it was givin the information that you just gave above, that the turns ratio is only about 100:1, and that the spark is generated when the points break, not when they make. The systems described did not rely on leakage inductance; OK, I just checked definitions, and I guess what I meant was primary inductace. They sure called it leakage inductance when I was at the University. http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/xformer_des/xformer.htm perhaps you meant to say mutual-inductance and self-inductance. Leakage inductance is undesirable transfer out of the system of energy which escapes to the surrounding environment, degrading both the system and the environment. Leakage inductance does not contribute much at all to the 'time constant' in a decently designed system except by a tiny lowering of the circuit Q; the self-inductance of the primary winding retarded both its field buildup and collapse, and generated the 'back-EMF' that caused the points to arc and wear rapidly. One role of the condenser placed across the points was to absorb enough of this back EMF peak to discourage such arcing; another was to provide a resonant tank for multiple spark discharge (aka MSD,) in certain newer designs. OK, primary inductance. Marshall Take care, Malcolm At 01:31 PM 10/26/03 -0500, you wrote: Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Oh Boy!! that's going to be quite a hit! The coil gets 12 volts from the ignition system, and generates perhaps 200 + volts on break due to inductive kickback or field collapse; what's going to happen when it gets 300 + volts and then the xenon tube extinguishes and break comes for that field? I realize the current is diminishing during the flash, guess I'll have to try it to find out - but I think I'll try it on the spider firstg. Take care, Malcolm That is incorrect. The spark coil is typically about a 50 or 100 to 1 transformer. When used in an old automobile, the points close, and a current builds up in the leakage inductance of the coil. This typically generates some voltage on the secondary, but not enough to cause a spark. Then when the points open the field collapses with a time
Re: cs Zappers
Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Hi, Richard, Soon SOTA will support only the Beck Pulser. They will drop the Clarke Zapper. You have gotten one of the last Clarke Zappers to be sold by SOTA. They now offer a second device for half price if you buy one. They sell both Beck and Clarke devices at present. Your device is a Clarke Zapper, which is not related to Beck's protocol. It puts out 12 volts as opposed to 31 volts.Both devices use 9 volt batteries. Everyone I know uses the Clark Zapper in place of the Beck device when doing the beck protocol, and have had very good success with it. I am glad if the Clarke Zapper works for you. I think the Beck Pulser (blood electrification) protocol is more plausible, but I have no direct experience with either device. I use a TENS device (Omron) to experiment with blood electrification. Why do you say it is more plausible? As far as I can tell they work exactly the same way. They both do the same thing: 1. Send a fast rise time pulse of current through the body. 2. This fast rise time pulse causes the dna of pathogens to ring at their resonance, causing them to break apart. (This is like a lightning bolt causing static on a AM radio. The radio picks up across all frequencies since they are in the fourier transform of the pulse). 3. The pulse does not break apart the human dna because there is so much of it, there is insufficient power at the resonant frequency of human dna to affect it. 4. There is an electric field to cause the dna to pull apart once it is broken. This can be in the form of an average electric field in the Clark zapper, or by using a pulse width of milliseconds for the Beck Device. Without the field, the dna repairs itself with no lasting damage. Now the Beck device switches 100 times a second if I remember right and has no offset. The leading edge breaks apart the dna and the the long pulse provides the field to pull the dna apart sufficiently so it cannot recombine. The Clark device pulses 30,000 times a second. If the pulses had an average value of 0, that is if they were bipolar, then the dna would split apart, then recombine, accomplishing nothing. But the pulse is unipolar (and thus has a 4.5 volt average value), which provides the electric field to pull the dna fragments apart. Each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Clark Zapper Advantages, 30,000 hits a second for more shaking of the dna and more pumping of the resonance. It does not cause the blood cells to open causing the potential for poisoning with toxins in the body Disadvantages Discrete frequencies in the fourier are every 30,000 hertz, which may fall outside of a pathogen's resonance sufficiently to not couple well Beck device Advantages - Discrete frequencies are every 100 cycles, so you are always within 50 htz of a resonance for better coupling. Disadvantages - frequency is so low that there is little likelihood of resonance pumping, that is one pulse does not add to the ringing from the previous pulse. Causes blood electrophoriation (sp? not in my dictionary). So I am wondering, on what basis you you base your statement on that the Beck device is more plausible? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
I am using the pads that came with my EMS unit. I bet replacement pads can be ordered, and they are soft flexible, and carbon filled so should not cause any undesirable effects on the skin. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Also try building supplies for copper flashing and roofing. Stop at a construction site where they're using it and ask for some scraps. Ode At 09:19 AM 10/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try http://www.danielsmith.com/ Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the had kind, but the kind that is easy to bend. One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4 will produce about a 2 3/8 wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. Then open it up to make a sheet out of it. Marshall Al Davis wrote: Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity. Cheap, too. Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references. Al Davis I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure copper and I'm just not getting there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHuh??
Ahh. OK, yeah that`s funny. Sort of. He was weird, wasn`t he? Thanks for the explanation, Marshalee I take them off by turning them inside-out and then drop them out the window. I travel with two Mormons, one to open the doors of the gas station and the other to open and close the doors of the loo. Dan So, Dan are you being anti-Mormon here, or something?? For sure, you are a litterbug! Marshalee, a 4th generation Latter Day Saint... _ No, I am being Howard Hughes-like. Excessive concern about germs can apparently become pathological. Dan PS I would call that humor - but I'm sure it's a little too wry for some... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
What are you talking about? Marshall Robb Allen wrote: According to the Park office...whom I called today...there are no fish dieing...there is no bulge in the lake that wasn't there forever...there are no wildlife migrating out of the park...the lake isn't closed...and the lakes temp is normal.LOL...Robb - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:46 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Brass is copper, tin and zinc. You probably don't want the tin. Ode At 10:02 AM 10/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: So: How does brasselectrodes fit into the scheme of things.. What is the chemical make-up of this metal??? Pretty inexpensive various thickness and widths. Available at most hobby shops??? Grant.. Sharon wrote: Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try http://www.danielsmith.com/ Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the had kind, but the kind that is easy to bend. One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4 will produce about a 2 3/8 wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. Then open it up to make a sheet out of it. Marshall Al Davis wrote: Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity. Cheap, too. Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references. Al Davis I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure copper and I'm just not getting there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cs Zappers
Jonathan, you reference the Sota web site but never give the URL ! Why? ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
According to the Park office...whom I called today...there are no fish dieing...there is no bulge in the lake that wasn't there forever...there are no wildlife migrating out of the park...the lake isn't closed...and the lakes temp is normal.LOL...Robb - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:46 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Brass is copper, tin and zinc. You probably don't want the tin. Ode At 10:02 AM 10/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: So: How does brasselectrodes fit into the scheme of things.. What is the chemical make-up of this metal??? Pretty inexpensive various thickness and widths. Available at most hobby shops??? Grant.. Sharon wrote: Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try http://www.danielsmith.com/ Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the had kind, but the kind that is easy to bend. One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4 will produce about a 2 3/8 wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. Then open it up to make a sheet out of it. Marshall Al Davis wrote: Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity. Cheap, too. Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references. Al Davis I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure copper and I'm just not getting there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CSRE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised footing?
I stand corrected... Dan Re: CSRE: CSRE: CSCS and H202 - CS and stabilised footing? From: Malcolm Stebbins (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:33:44 I believe Herring Boxes Without Topses were the previously recommended footwear for such excursions. At 01:15 PM 10/26/03 -0600, you wrote: Upon stopping my car at the rest stop or gas station, I get a pair of latex gloves out of the glove box and put them on. When I get back into the car, I take them off by turning them inside-out and then drop them out the window. I travel with two Mormons, one to open the doors of the gas station and the other to open and close the doors of the loo. Also, I never travel without a couple of cleanex boxes which I place over my feet whenever going out of my car and remove before re-entering. Dan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cs Zappers
Marshall, Where can I get schematics for both the zapper and the pulser? Ole Bob P.E., EE -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZapper
Sorry.I don't know how I got this post here. - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper According to the Park office...whom I called today...there are no fish dieing...there is no bulge in the lake that wasn't there forever...there are no wildlife migrating out of the park...the lake isn't closed...and the lakes temp is normal.LOL...Robb - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:46 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Brass is copper, tin and zinc. You probably don't want the tin. Ode At 10:02 AM 10/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: So: How does brasselectrodes fit into the scheme of things.. What is the chemical make-up of this metal??? Pretty inexpensive various thickness and widths. Available at most hobby shops??? Grant.. Sharon wrote: Art supply stores will have sheet copper for making etchings. try http://www.danielsmith.com/ Also I believe the soft copper pipe is pretty pure copper. Not the had kind, but the kind that is easy to bend. One should be able to buy a few feet of large diameter tubing (3/4 will produce about a 2 3/8 wide sheet), cut it to length, and cut it lengthwise. Then open it up to make a sheet out of it. Marshall Al Davis wrote: Electrical copper wire is 99.95% minimum purity. Cheap, too. Do a search for 99.95% copper and you'll get lots of references. Al Davis I keep trying to think of something that's made out of pure copper and I'm just not getting there. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Lake Open, Fish OK
Rob: LOL. Well! I'm sure we're all glad to know that the fish are ok and that the lake is open. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:21 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper Sorry.I don't know how I got this post here. - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSZapper According to the Park office...whom I called today...there are no fish dieing...there is no bulge in the lake that wasn't there forever...there are no wildlife migrating out of the park...the lake isn't closed...and the lakes temp is normal.LOL...Robb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/20/2003 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSZappers
As a violin and viola player, I would say not the vibrato, but the actual pitch changes rapidly upward when resonance is present. Vince Robb Allen writes: that is the only difference I have heard in syncrometer tests.the vibrato depth is deeper on some tests than others..Robb - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers It's not the actual sounds that indicate resonance. It's the relative rate at which the sounds change (increase) in frequency. We hear that change in frequency which indicates resonance (resonance indicates the presence of the substance being tested for) as a rapid change (increase) in pitch. It's similar to the feedback in an audio system when the amplified sound gets to the microphone and gets amplified again and again. Vince -Original Message- From: twll [mailto:t...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers What if those sounds could be turned into a digital number read out? Exp. this parasite =85759950 that parasite =6575885the same for toxins heavy metals ! - Original Message - From: Vince Richter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:35 PM Subject: RE: CSZappers Rob, There's a video complete with sound available of a seminar devoted to synchrometer operation. The resonance was clearly audible. The normal practice time for most people is at least 20 minutes to get the hang of the pressure and quick release necessary for proper synchrometer operation. I saw the video and then sent it back to my brother. It seems that you've spent some time researching this. I wonder if you've been looking in the wrong places for proof and information? It's there and not too hard to find.. Vince -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSZappers I hope your right.I'm just saying that I have NEVER seen any evidence of a syncrometer working.all that would be necessary to prove that it works is a recording of a no resonance test.and a recording of a resonance testI'm a musician and I've worked in the sound industry for a long timeI have a keen ear and I understand harmonics and resonance..I have yet to hear any difference between a positive and a negative syncrometer test.I would love for someone to provide these recordings.if what you say is true...then her testing procedures require a PH D .this is very contrary to her writings.according to her anyone can use a syncrometer as long as you can hearRobb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cs Zappers
There is a zapper schematic on this page: http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/Zapper_schematic.htm Dan Re: cs Zappers From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:20:39 Marshall, Where can I get schematics for both the zapper and the pulser? Ole Bob P.E., EE -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cs Zappers
Beck device? http://www.sotainstruments.com/images/Beck_Improved.gif -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: brown recluse spider bite
Brown recluse spider info resource: http://spiders.ucr.edu/ jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cs Zappers
Thanks Dan, That LMC555 timer circuit is rather strange. Uusually the timing circuit is a resistor series between pin 8 - 7- 6 and the Cap from pin 6 to ground. I got knee relief running 10 Hz rather 30 kHz, and that is safe for the eyes. The approved medical TENS unit runs at 10 Hz. Ole Bob P.E., EE -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea
I would be very interested in the CS used. Can you give us a detailed report on what you used.. - Original Message - From: Smith, Michael m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Sorry for the multiple posts - my email system went all wacky on me regards Mike -Original Message- From: Smith, Michael [mailto:m.a.sm...@indoverbank.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:51 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: CSRe: Bladder Infection - Gonorrhea Hello List Well it looks like the CS/Turkey baster combination worked. I used it twice on Saturday and on Sunday morning I was completely clear of any symptoms no discharge whatsoever - I noticed that the morning was always the time when I would see most of the discharge as it would have time to accumulate during the night while I slept - so the fact that there was no discharge in the morning told me that it worked. I used it again on Sunday and as of Monday morning I am still completely clear. I'm still taking the OLE and sandalwood decoction as well as drinking CS and Cranberry Juice (I'll also order some d-mannose - looks very good) and keep this up for a few weeks. I know this might be overkill but I want to make sure that the bacteria is completely clear from my system. I'll then go and get tested for the bacteria. My feeling is however that that the CS is/was taking care of any of the bacteria that may have tried to spread up from the urethra/bladder which is the reason that it really didn't get any worse after I spotted it and just stayed localised where the CS couldn't really get at it - I've read that after a short time some sufferers suffer excrutiating pain where the urethra gets closed up and the infection becomes systemic. That really didn't happen to me - I think because of all the CS I was taking - but as i said that's just my theroy. I'd like to thank everybody once again for the all the help and info and yes I'll keep you updated. regards Mike = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. = -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com = Disclaimer This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended for the attention and use of the addressees only. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately, destroy the message from your system and do not disclose the contents to another person, or use it for any purposes, store or copy the information in any medium. The sender of this message shall be neither responsible nor liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message as secure or error free e-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete or contain viruses. If verification is needed, please ask for a hard copy or check otherwise. =
CSRe: constant current and concentrated CS
Malcolm, Marshall, Mike. M., Everybody, Now I've made another effort making the concentrated CS for ceramic filter saturation, and I'm getting better results, not experiencing the instability associated with agglomeration of particles. Yesterday I went twelve hours, quite an easy exercise when using automated switching. It seems that an important factor here is in not using the tiny drop of honey, earlier used as starter. In effect all that did was to make the water impure. I think the use of honey was a step that would have been okay, had the system designer's intent been pursued: to make no more than about 100 to 200ppm. But let's do see what result I get when I weigh the electrodes, within a couple of days. What I do know is that the denisty of particles is greater than it's ever been with this generator. I believe another factor here is that, by contrast to the earlier device the one I'm now using has equal time intervals for both electrodes, as opposed to 23 seconds for one and 28 for the other. Somebody here said this would not be a problem, but somehow I'm imagining that an equal 120 seconds for each electrode has helped. This gut feeling of mine, that equal intervals is important, may be all the intuition I'm allowed, when in reality I'm a mere artist, but it seems to me that a balanced system must be important. If current runaway is a definite issue, as it is, some kind of arc, going out of control, then it would appear to make sense that even little arcs (for want of a better word) would lend themselves to instability, particularly as number of particles increases greatly. Another big issue in this particular generator is that I'm no longer following specs, vis-a-vis the sizes of : the flask, the voltage and the wet surface area of electrodes. So it could be that if these were optimized I'd get a lot more silver in solution. I did mention that the original, 2.0 liter flask broke, the only available replacement at 2.4 liters. And contrary to the designers specification of 27 volts this time I used 24. But I'm about to throw in another wild card. Distance around the cross section of my original, round electrode is about 12.5 mms. Soon I'll be attempting generation with a local electrode, possibly no better than about 99.0% purity. This is a flat bar, the distance around it 20.0 mms. So the rate of liberating silver should be a factor of 20.0/ 12.6 = ~1.6 times that of the origonal electrode. Is it likely that a possible 0.3% (or so) to 1.0% impurity in the electrode could get me back into the business of excess impurity in the water? Then instability once again? What I'll bank on with a flat bar that's not three 9s is that the weight of material coming off of the electrodes is a lot smaller than what gave me the that 2.0 uS, resulting from that drop of honey. After all, if it's 0.2 grams of liberated silver that gives me ~500ppm, then: (0.2 grs.) x (~0.05% impure material) = 0.01 grs. impure material, ie. 10.0 mgs.. Now that I see this number it may be a lot, but this is likely to be copper? Maybe what I'll really be testing is the local silver merchant's assertion of three 9s. The moment he told me that I forgave him, my feeling that he really believes it. Bye for now. Reid, imagining that in science it's okay to be shocked, from time to time, but not okay to be surprised, too much like naiveté. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS stains on counter tops
Cliff 10/24/03 1:03 PM Wrote: Steel Wool and Dutch Cleanser has helped mine, but dutch is hard to find these days. I will have to switch to comet. When I find another supply of H202 it will help a lot. Steel wool and Dutch Cleanser are contra indicated. If you want an agressive but non-abrasive cleanser try Bar Keepers Friend it's not cheap, but http://www.barkeepersfriend.com/products.htm Jack Be Nice
Re: CSRe: Plastic and CS
In a message dated 10/26/03 3:17:10 PM Central Standard Time, jrowl...@nctimes.net writes: ...it came out at around 11 ppm---Ron As measured by? jr hanna
Re: CSPlastic and CS
Ode Coyote 10/25/03 4:35 AM Wrote: Many people have made high PPM CS and stored it for years in clear glass or pop bottles right on the window sill and nothing has fallen out nor has it changed in any way. * Yeah Ken, but maybe it's the gin fumes left in the bottles that is protecting your's. :-) Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPlastic and CS
rnhffm...@aol.com 10/25/03 9:09 AM Wrote: just think, if you knew what you know now and were half your age, how cocky would you be? :) Intelligence is like a river -- the deeper it is, the quiter it runs Jack Dayton
Re: CSCS stains on counter tops
sol 10/25/03 10:37 AM Wrote: Thanks! I am clumsy by nature, and not what my husband calls a safe worker and when I mentioned the 35% H202 to him, he said no way. * Paula, about a month or 2 ago I was reading about H2O2, and I believe I remember that at certain concentrations it is explosive. I think I understand what your husband is thinking -- I stopped sharpening the kitchen knives years ago. :-) Jack Be Nice
Re: cs Zappers
Hi, Marshall, Good questions. My understanding, as a layman relying on a variety of sources, was based on a different theory of the mechanism of action.One theory, supposedly based on dark field microscopy of live blood, is that the Beck device and other blood electrification methods work by improving the efficacy of white blood cells. The related hypothesis is that these cells (macrophages I believe) work not just by devouring the pathogens, in a Pac Man sort of attack, but by first electrocuting the invaders!I think this concept derived from the work of Gaston Naessens. I do not know which theory is correct. You know a lot about the DNA theory, which I do not know well. Perhaps other list members have ideas. My own experiences leave me with no reason to favor one hypothesis over the other at the moment. JBB On Monday, Oct 27, 2003, at 23:21 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Hi, Richard, Soon SOTA will support only the Beck Pulser. They will drop the Clarke Zapper. You have gotten one of the last Clarke Zappers to be sold by SOTA. They now offer a second device for half price if you buy one. They sell both Beck and Clarke devices at present. Your device is a Clarke Zapper, which is not related to Beck's protocol. It puts out 12 volts as opposed to 31 volts.Both devices use 9 volt batteries. Everyone I know uses the Clark Zapper in place of the Beck device when doing the beck protocol, and have had very good success with it. I am glad if the Clarke Zapper works for you. I think the Beck Pulser (blood electrification) protocol is more plausible, but I have no direct experience with either device. I use a TENS device (Omron) to experiment with blood electrification. Why do you say it is more plausible? As far as I can tell they work exactly the same way. They both do the same thing: 1. Send a fast rise time pulse of current through the body. 2. This fast rise time pulse causes the dna of pathogens to ring at their resonance, causing them to break apart. (This is like a lightning bolt causing static on a AM radio. The radio picks up across all frequencies since they are in the fourier transform of the pulse). 3. The pulse does not break apart the human dna because there is so much of it, there is insufficient power at the resonant frequency of human dna to affect it. 4. There is an electric field to cause the dna to pull apart once it is broken. This can be in the form of an average electric field in the Clark zapper, or by using a pulse width of milliseconds for the Beck Device. Without the field, the dna repairs itself with no lasting damage. Now the Beck device switches 100 times a second if I remember right and has no offset. The leading edge breaks apart the dna and the the long pulse provides the field to pull the dna apart sufficiently so it cannot recombine. The Clark device pulses 30,000 times a second. If the pulses had an average value of 0, that is if they were bipolar, then the dna would split apart, then recombine, accomplishing nothing. But the pulse is unipolar (and thus has a 4.5 volt average value), which provides the electric field to pull the dna fragments apart. Each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Clark Zapper Advantages, 30,000 hits a second for more shaking of the dna and more pumping of the resonance. It does not cause the blood cells to open causing the potential for poisoning with toxins in the body Disadvantages Discrete frequencies in the fourier are every 30,000 hertz, which may fall outside of a pathogen's resonance sufficiently to not couple well Beck device Advantages - Discrete frequencies are every 100 cycles, so you are always within 50 htz of a resonance for better coupling. Disadvantages - frequency is so low that there is little likelihood of resonance pumping, that is one pulse does not add to the ringing from the previous pulse. Causes blood electrophoriation (sp? not in my dictionary). So I am wondering, on what basis you you base your statement on that the Beck device is more plausible? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSProstate
Terry, To add to your statement, I just spoke with the Crofts. The zapper can be returned at any time if you are convinced that it has done nothing for you, and if it is defective/stops working, it will be repaired/replaced at no cost. If you want to find out if it works, try it! There is nothing to lose and much to gain. If this is your main complaint Jack, you have very little to risk. If you need to speak to Don or Carol Croft personally, you may email them for their phone #. Jannette (the delusional terminator zapper user) - Original Message - From: tdg39 td...@tampabay.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Re: CSProstate So be it Jack. All I can say is it is sure good to sleep all night without having to get up. IMHO it would be worth a try. If you wanted to you might talk to Don Croft (Terminator) and ask him if you were not satisfied in 60 days could you return it? Who knows what his answer might be. The Terminator might not work for everyone, but, it worked for me. That's it from my end. Be Well Prosper, Terry - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: CSProstate tdg39 10/25/03 3:06 PM Wrote: If you are having a prostate problem, I suggest you either get a Terminator and/or go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ and look at their Godzilla. Some of the guys there also state that they have solved their prostate problems with their home made devices. For me, I take CS, use my Clark zapper, my Terminator and my Godzilla. *** Thanks Terry, but nothing I've read here over the last year has prompted me to try a zapper, I have those grouped with copper bracelets, etc. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS stains on counter tops
Re: CSCS stains on counter topsThanks, Jack, We also have several pets in the house, and neither he (nor I) want stuff like 35% H202 around the animals. However, I do use the 3% by the quart! paula - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton sol 10/25/03 10:37 AM Wrote: * Paula, about a month or 2 ago I was reading about H2O2, and I believe I remember that at certain concentrations it is explosive. I think I understand what your husband is thinking -- I stopped sharpening the kitchen knives years ago. :-) Jack Be Nice
CSRe: CS stains on counter tops
...try Bar Keepers Friend it's not cheap... http://www.barkeepersfriend.com/products.htm Maybe the SH charges would cover it. ...Bar Keepers Friend® also comes in these handy trail size cans, a full 4 1/2 oz. 6 4 1/2 oz. cans of Bar Keepers Friend $5.00 [shipping and handling included]... jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMelamine sponge for electrode cleaning
List, I finally found something that really cleans electrodes quickly and effectively. Melamine sponges work wonders. Two swipes and the anode/cathode are perfectly clean. Rinse once and you get CS as clear as with brand new silver -odes. These sponges were first marketed in Germany and are everywhere at low cost in Japan. I do not know about elsewhere. If you can get some, try! The results are wonderful. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
