CSHello everyone !

[William Amos]

I am new to the silver list but not to Colloidals. I am retired and spend a lot 
of time making them. for the past 2-1/2 years. I have made Colloidal Silver 
with a 30 volt DC unit I built.

Recently I built a 15000 volt AC unit and have been making 
Gold, Silver, Copper and Zinc. I make and give away the Gold and Silver. I am 
amazed with the results I have been told from people I give it to. 

I am still learning, and appreciate the info I receive from your feedback. 

I read about mixing CS with DMSO. Is this strictly for topical applications. 

More Later

Bill Amos


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Re: CSQuestion for anyone

[Jeanne Shuford]

Question for anyonecan you give us his website?
  - Original Message - 
  From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:28 PM
  Subject: CSQuestion for anyone


  Hi,

  I LOVE Dr. Williams!  He is wonderful and has many tips and ideas on how to 
find and use alternative health options.  His latest information is how to cure 
cataracts, macular degeneration, glaucoma etc, with a specific TENS machine 
that brings circulation back to the area that is dying.   I recently renewed to 
get this information for a friend of mine, who has glaucoma.  He is hoping to 
regain the lost sight in one eye and I believe he can.

  Jean Baugh


***

Does anyone know anything about *Alternatives* newsletter, and it's 
owner/author Dr. Williams?  I've received a couple of his newsletters, 
unsolicited, and they're pretty intriguing.  Thought sure that someone here 
would have an opinion!  ;-)  MA 

Re: CSurgently need to make some CS.

[M. G. Devour]

Greer202 wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I have purchased some . silver wire ( have cert for silver) and wish
 to make some CS. have read a few homebrew sites.
 
 can you recommend a site that give step by step, kind of idiots guide?

Did you get an answer to your request, Greer?

What do you say, folks? What's the address of Jason's site? Any others 
you'd like to volunteer?

Be well,

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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[Ode Coyote]

At 08:54 PM 7/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: 

I did some research and found out that some people have found mixing a little hydrogen peroxide into colloidal silver can make the silver particle size smaller and more ionic.


##  many people on this list do that and like it. Most use off the shelf 3% an only a couple of drops or less per oz. Use too much and the CS tastes really nasty.
Don't make the CS with peroxide unless you want big silver metalflakes.
Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little colloidal silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any experience in this area?
##  The merchant marines, offshore oil rigs  and several communities in the world are currently using direct silver ion injection of their water supplies to sterilize their water.

The equipment works exactly like a home CS brewer in the water lines.



Ode


Thanks for all the expertise you guys have provided so far - it's been helpful.

~Nathan

- Original Message - 
From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net 
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:02:22 -0500 
To: 
Subject: CS>Nebulizer information needed, please 

> Hi, 
> 
> I'm going to buy a nebulizer for my Mother to use with Colloidal Silver. We 
> found there is cancer in her lungs, which is causing a great deal of 
> coughing. 
> 
> I gather the finer the mist, the better the nebulizer? If this is true, can 
> anyone please tell me what brand to buy? 
> 
> Thank you, 
> 
> Jean Baugh 
> 
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Re: CSQuestion for anyone

[David Bearrow]

http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/

At 02:36 AM 7/13/04, you wrote:

can you give us his website?
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to find and use alternative health options.



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CSCS MS

[Terry Chamberlin]

bob smith said:
 I have a neighbor, about 40, who had MS for 6 years
when I started him on EIS. At that time he was
beginning to have serious difficulty.  This was a year
ago in March. By June he was showing definite
improvement and at this time his symptoms are gone. I
don't believe he has added H2O2 to the silver.   

Bob, could you persuade your friend to write down his
experience using CS with his MS? How much, how often,
how long before he experienced improvement, what
reversals or setbacks he might have had, any
complimentary additional therapies, supplements, etc.

Email me directly if you'd like.

Sincerely,

Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
Metabolic Solutions Institute
RR1
Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
902-584-3810 voice/message
413-826-7641 fax service
msi...@yahoo.com


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CSRe: Horses and Eye Formula

[John Rigby]

At 12:53 AM 12/07/04, Garnet wrote:

Stopping the inflammation is
the goal of treatment, as the cause is unknown and often not even at
play any longer. Once the inflammatory process gets started it seems to
be self-perpetuating on a cyclical basis.


Actually there is a vast amount known about the conditions causative 
of  cataracts and Macular degeneration.
In its simplest terms it relates to various toxin intakes combined with the 
usually accompanying low nutrition factor.
E.G.  Cataracts are tightly bound to so called Sugar Diabetes ( a generic 
term for a range of symptoms in escalation).
Macular degeneration  has long been known to be caused by specific toxins 
found in processed food oils.
Heart of the fast food/processed food industry bottled, canned, 
packaged.
( Head of a specialist eye centre in Oz just threw his job out the window 
by going public on TV about this VERY subject.)


The reason that these diseases are appearing to cross species is that the 
animals are being fed the same toxic wastes now as their masters.


They aren't hard to cure, just require hard people.

Himagain  



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RE: CSNebulizer information needed, please

[Medwith, Robert]

I have and use daily a Omron comp air elite which I use Daily with CS.
I paid less than $60 from listed above
Bob

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On Behalf Of Jim Holmes
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer information needed, please


Jason Eaton wrote:

Greetings, Jean:

If you can afford the additional expense, I recommend The Omron 
Ultrasonic Nebulizer.  The Omron Ultrasonic specs show particle sizing 
at between 1 and 7 microns, compared to the more standard 3 to 5-7 
microns of many other brands.

You can find effective models, of course, that are quite a bit more 
affordable.

Best Regards,

Jason



- Original Message -
From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: CSNebulizer information needed, please


  

Hi,

I'm going to buy a nebulizer for my Mother to use with Colloidal 
Silver.


We
  

found there is cancer in her lungs, which is causing a great deal of 
coughing.

I gather the finer the mist, the better the nebulizer?  If this is 
true,


can
  

anyone please tell me what brand to buy?

Thank you,

Jean Baugh


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That data could need interpreting.  What percentage of the sizes are 
involved?  1 to 7 could be 5% 1 and 99% 7. 

JOH



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CSColloidal Gold---Marshall

[William Amos]

Hi:
It took me nearly a year to come up with a procedure to make Colloidal Gold. 

I just recently started making it and a few people have tried it.
It is used for pain and arthritis relief.  It is also used for emotional 
problems. I have had only two people reply after taking it. One 87 year old 
lady with arthritis and my daughter with fibromyalgia. Both say they had some 
relief.

I can best direct you to more information on the web site at
www.colloidalgold.com 

Bill Amos


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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[John Rigby]

At 11:54 AM 13/07/04, you wrote:
I did some research and found out that some people have found mixing a 
little hydrogen peroxide into colloidal silver can make the silver 
particle size smaller and more ionic. It's supposed to increase the 
effectiveness dramatically. I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of 
this, or has tried it


Hi Nathan,
Your research is a pretty neat summary of my own research to date.  I am a 
reasonably new user and have between my literally better half and myself in 
a few months had pretty dramatic results - especially after souping up 
the CS with H202.
An interesting side light was found in our home cheesemaking ( Kefir to be 
precise)  in which we use raw unpasteurised milk  and to keep it we add 10 
drops per litre  of  CSSuper as we call it and stretch the shelf life 
remarkably.  Even more fascinating is that it does seem as though CSS is 
specific in its targeting.  The partially sterilised milk goes on to make 
beautiful cheese.


You will find tons of evidence in the archives here and some pretty 
remarkable achievements using it in conjunction with DMSO.
Our next project.  Am waiting on delivery of some AR ( high grade) DMSO to 
be delivered right now.


This is a great list for help and support!

Cheers,

Himagain




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RE: CSurgently need to make some CS.

[Medwith, Robert]

Use of a current regulator as in list above will let you have a constant
current CS Generator.
Personally I use around 1 Mill Amp or less, use on most any DC power source.
If you have low voltage source just move silver close together.
The nice thing is with Current Regulator you will never exceed in current
what size you buy and use.
Bob

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On Behalf Of M. G. Devour
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 5:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: greer...@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSurgently need to make some CS.


Greer202 wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I have purchased some . silver wire ( have cert for silver) and 
 wish to make some CS. have read a few homebrew sites.
 
 can you recommend a site that give step by step, kind of idiots guide?

Did you get an answer to your request, Greer?

What do you say, folks? What's the address of Jason's site? Any others 
you'd like to volunteer?

Be well,

Mike Devour
Silver List owner

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Re: CSHello everyone !

[Marshall Dudley]

William Amos wrote:

 I am new to the silver list but not to Colloidals. I am retired and spend a 
 lot of time making them. for the past 2-1/2 years. I have made Colloidal 
 Silver with a 30 volt DC unit I built.

 Recently I built a 15000 volt AC unit and have been making
 Gold, Silver, Copper and Zinc. I make and give away the Gold and Silver. I am 
 amazed with the results I have been told from people I give it to.

What are people using the gold for, and what are the results on it?

Marshall


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CSDMSO and CS [was Hello everyone !]

[Garnet]

I use DMSO and CS internally, to rinse and hold in my mouth for tooth
and gum disease prevention and I also swallow this. Seems to give more
of an effect than CS alone although I have not experimented that much
with using it this way, I have used it to get over an unexpected flu
bug. Unexpected because I was talking 2 oz of CS a day in the morning
and thought this was enough. I upped that to twice a day for prevention
and of course more during the actual time I had symptoms.

I also use DMSO and CS to nebulize for lung symptoms, as nose drops to
clear a sinus headache and kills any pathogens hanging about in the
mucous.

Here is the address to a DMSO List I started last winter. Many here on
this list are also on the DMSO list, but we seem to discuss both here as
they are often used together. I dilute all of my DMSO with CS rather
than simply using distilled water, since I make CS and have it on hand.

http://groups.yahoo.com/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 09:21, William Amos wrote:
 I am new to the silver list but not to Colloidals. I am retired and spend a 
 lot of time making them. for the past 2-1/2 years. I have made Colloidal 
 Silver with a 30 volt DC unit I built.
 
 Recently I built a 15000 volt AC unit and have been making 
 Gold, Silver, Copper and Zinc. I make and give away the Gold and Silver. I am 
 amazed with the results I have been told from people I give it to. 
 
 I am still learning, and appreciate the info I receive from your feedback. 
 
 I read about mixing CS with DMSO. Is this strictly for topical applications. 
 
 More Later
 
 Bill Amos
 
 
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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[Garnet]

I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per liter,
so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. Not a whole heck of a lot if this
figure is accurate.

Garnet

 
 Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little colloidal
 silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any 


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Re: CSCS MS

[Jeanne Shuford]

If possible i would like this info also I have a sister in law in a wheel
chair from ms ty Jen
- Original Message - 
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:57 AM
Subject: CSCS  MS


 bob smith said:
  I have a neighbor, about 40, who had MS for 6 years
 when I started him on EIS. At that time he was
 beginning to have serious difficulty.  This was a year
 ago in March. By June he was showing definite
 improvement and at this time his symptoms are gone. I
 don't believe he has added H2O2 to the silver. 

 Bob, could you persuade your friend to write down his
 experience using CS with his MS? How much, how often,
 how long before he experienced improvement, what
 reversals or setbacks he might have had, any
 complimentary additional therapies, supplements, etc.

 Email me directly if you'd like.

 Sincerely,

 Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
 Metabolic Solutions Institute
 RR1
 Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
 902-584-3810 voice/message
 413-826-7641 fax service
 msi...@yahoo.com


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Re: CSRe: Horses and Eye Formula

[Garnet]

My horses eat hay and pasture grasses, both untreated. No commercial
oils, any oil I feed is cold pressed. I generally feed Black Oil
Sunflower Seeds with minimal chemical processing because they are still
in the shell and sold for wild birds which are very sensitive to chems.

ERU, or Equine Recurrent Uveitis is not simply cataracts or retinal
degeneration, it is a recurrent inflammation of the eye. In this horses
case his episodes always follow days of high wind. Dust and trauma can
trigger an episode.

Sufferers may or may not develop all the sequelae. In some the eyeball
simply shrinks down to nothing. Others experience contracted pupils that
will not dialate. Some get cataracts. Others detached retinas. Even
those studying the disorder know very little about it. Although some of
the originating causes are thought to be known, they are not proven,
yet.

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 07:30, John Rigby wrote:
 At 12:53 AM 12/07/04, Garnet wrote:
 Stopping the inflammation is
 the goal of treatment, as the cause is unknown and often not even at
 play any longer. Once the inflammatory process gets started it seems to
 be self-perpetuating on a cyclical basis.
 
 Actually there is a vast amount known about the conditions causative 
 of  cataracts and Macular degeneration.
 In its simplest terms it relates to various toxin intakes combined with the 
 usually accompanying low nutrition factor.
 E.G.  Cataracts are tightly bound to so called Sugar Diabetes ( a generic 
 term for a range of symptoms in escalation).
 Macular degeneration  has long been known to be caused by specific toxins 
 found in processed food oils.
 Heart of the fast food/processed food industry bottled, canned, 
 packaged.
 ( Head of a specialist eye centre in Oz just threw his job out the window 
 by going public on TV about this VERY subject.)
 
 The reason that these diseases are appearing to cross species is that the 
 animals are being fed the same toxic wastes now as their masters.
 
 They aren't hard to cure, just require hard people.
 
 Himagain  
 
 
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Re: CSDMSO and CS [was Hello everyone !]

[Nathan Filyk]

I tried the link, yahoo couldn't find it.
~Nathan- Original Message - From: Garnet Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:04:23 -0500 To: Silver List Subject: CSDMSO and CS [was Hello everyone !]  I use DMSO and CS internally, to rinse and hold in my mouth for tooth  and gum disease prevention and I also swallow this. Seems to give more  of an effect than CS alone although I have not experimented that much  with using it this way, I have used it to get over an unexpected flu  bug. Unexpected because I was talking 2 oz of CS a day in the morning  and thought this was enough. I upped that to twice a day for prevention  and of course more during the actual time I had symptoms.   I also use DMSO and CS to nebulize for lung symptoms, as nose drops to  clear a sinus headache and kills any pathogens hanging about in the  mucous.   Here is the
  address to a DMSO List I started last winter. Many here on  this list are also on the DMSO list, but we seem to discuss both here as  they are often used together. I dilute all of my DMSO with CS rather  than simply using distilled water, since I make CS and have it on hand.   http://groups.yahoo.com/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO   Garnet   On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 09:21, William Amos wrote:   I am new to the silver list but not to Colloidals. I am retired and spend a lot of time making them. for the past 2-1/2 years. I have made Colloidal Silver with a 30 volt DC unit I built. Recently I built a 15000 volt AC unit and have been making   Gold, Silver, Copper and Zinc. I make and give away the Gold and Silver. I am amazed with the results I have been told from people I give it to. I am still learning, and appreciate the info I receive 
 from your feedback. I read about mixing CS with DMSO. Is this strictly for topical applications. More Later Bill Amos   --   The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com   Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com   OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour    

Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and(CS + H20)

[Nathan Filyk]

Wow, and I was thinking I was isolated in the experimental, X-files-ish types who mess around with stuff (perhaps that they shouldn't) and learn stuff that's absolutely incredible.
So tell me, what grade of H202 do you use, and what concentration?
~Nathan- Original Message - From: John Rigby Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:51:57 +1000 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and(CS + H20)  At 11:54 AM 13/07/04, you wrote:  I did some research and found out that some people have found mixing a  little hydrogen peroxide into colloidal silver can make the silver  particle size smaller and more ionic. It's supposed to increase the  effectiveness dramatically. I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of  this, or has tried it   Hi Nathan,  Your research is a pretty neat summary of my own research to date. I am a  reasonably new user and have between my literally better half and myself in  a few months had pretty dramatic results - especially after "souping up"  the CS with H202.  An interesting
  side light was found in our home cheesemaking ( Kefir to be  precise) in which we use raw unpasteurised milk and to keep it we add 10  drops per litre of CSSuper as we call it and stretch the shelf life  remarkably. Even more fascinating is that it does seem as though CSS is  specific in its targeting. The partially "sterilised" milk goes on to make  beautiful cheese.   You will find tons of evidence in the archives here and some pretty  remarkable achievements using it in conjunction with DMSO.  Our next project. Am waiting on delivery of some AR ( high grade) DMSO to  be delivered right now.   This is a great list for help and support!   Cheers,   Himagain  --  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: ht
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Re: CSEIS

[Marshall Dudley]

It is a term used here which means Electrolytically Isolated Silver.  It
is the true colloidal silver made with distilled water, but that term is
so misused, being applied to everything from silver compounds, MSP and
silver gunk made with salt or tap water, many of us have started using
this unambiguous term.  It is typically about 80-90% ionic silver and
10-20% particulate colloid.

Marshall

Medwith, Robert wrote:

  What is EIS Bob

CSEIS

[Medwith, Robert]

What is EIS
 
 Bob

Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS +H20)

[Nathan Filyk]

I should try that. I live in Korea, where the tap water is not considered drinkable, unless you boil it (and usually only the Koreans do that, many people by bottled water). Of course, I would add a lot more colloidal silver just to be safe. But I am wondering about potential byproducts with adding silver to tap water.
Or for that matter, hydrogen peroxide with stabling agents to colloidal silver. (not the food grade stuff)
~Nathan- Original Message - From: Garnet Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:14 -0500 To: Silver List Subject: Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS +H20)  I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per liter,  so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. Not a whole heck of a lot if this  figure is accurate.   Garnet  Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little colloidal   silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org   To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com  Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesil
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Re: CSQuestion for anyone

[Stepbystepltd]

Hi! I used to subscribe Alternative a couple of years ago. Some of the 
information is really helpful but, there are a lots of junk as well. He is 
mostly 
an advertising/promoting his products. He claims to be an independent 
researcher but, in reality, he is a promoter for vitamin/herb/supplement 
company. you 
can check their website for products and prices.He is making all sorts of 
claims. I did not try their products, but I think that some of them are 
overpriced. The same company has another promoter DR. Lark, a female version of 
DR. 
Williams, her newsletter is mostly for women. But both these doctors work for 
the 
same company. I subscribe to her newsletter as well. Apparently, it was the 
same contact number for both of them when I decided to unsubscribe. Personally, 
I refuse to pay $45 a year for an advertising flyer.
Vitale

CSCS MS cure

[Shirley Reed]

  Bob,  This is of great general interest, so can you please post the 
particulars on this list, or, if you decide on the OT list, let us know on this 
list so we will be sure not to miss it.  Congratulations on the achievement, 
both to the 'patient' and to you for your part in the cure.   pj


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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[Dave]

Every year when I start out with my motorhome I put about one ounce per 
gallon in whatever water is left over from last year.
  That's about two quarts for a 60 gallon tank if it was left full. 
Does the job for me,never had a problem with it.

Dave

Garnet wrote:

I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per liter,
so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. Not a whole heck of a lot if this
figure is accurate.

Garnet



Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little colloidal
silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any 




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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS +H20)

[sol]

 If you look at a chemical analysis of food grade H202, which I did 
(nope don't remember the site) it has a LOT of stuff in it.  Maybe 
different stuff, but apparently it is so caustic (?is that the right 
word?) that it is impossible to make it pure as it ends up with 
contaminated with stuff from every pipe and container it is kept in, or 
has passed through.
 After reading the analyses/comparisons between grocery store 3% H202 
with its stabilizers, and the food grade H202 with its dissolved 
contaminants, and given the handling risk with the 35% H202, as well as 
the much higher cost, I decided to stick with grocery store 3%. Anyone 
who is the least bit klutzy or accident prone, as I am, probably should 
not mess with the 35% stuff. And with all my pets, I don't want it around.
 Further, since the amount of peroxide I sometimes add to my CS is so 
miniscule, I don't see the stabilizers as a problem for that reason also.
  This is, of course, just my opinion, and a statement of what I do. 
Many folks here disagree and think the 35% is the thing to use. Depends 
on whether you think the contaminants are worse than the stabilizers. Of 
course grocery store H202 may have both. I still won't buy or use the 
35% food grade stuff.
 
sol


Nathan Filyk wrote:

Or for that matter, hydrogen peroxide with stabling agents to 
colloidal silver. (not the food grade stuff)


~Nathan

- Original Message -
From: Garnet
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:14 -0500
To: Silver List
Subject: Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and 
(CS +H20)


 I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per 
liter,

 so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. Not a whole heck of a lot if this
 figure is accurate.

 Garnet

 
  Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little 
colloidal

  silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any


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CSCS for purifying water.

[Trem]

I cannot locate the information but I distinctly recall the mention of 1 
teaspoon per
gallon being sufficient.  When asked I also say to add an extra teaspoon so for 
sure
there's overkill.  That's about one third ounce per gallon.  For sure 1 ounce 
per
gallon will do the job Dave.

Trem

- Original Message - 
From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:30 AM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) 
and
(CS + H20)


 Every year when I start out with my motorhome I put about one ounce per
 gallon in whatever water is left over from last year.
That's about two quarts for a 60 gallon tank if it was left full.
 Does the job for me,never had a problem with it.
 Dave

 Garnet wrote:
  I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per liter,
  so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. Not a whole heck of a lot if this
  figure is accurate.
 
  Garnet
 
 
 Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little colloidal
 silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any
 
 
 
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Re: CSEIS

[bob smith]

MessageI have seen it used on this site a number of times. It  was supposed to 
stand for electrically isolated silver.  I am by no means an authority in any 
technical area but to me it stands for electrically ionized silver.  It has 
been pointed out that what we are generating is not Colloidal Silver. I am not 
the author of that position either.   Bob Smith
  P.S. I've been meaning to ask you if my shipment arrived O.K.? I wasn't 
worried about it giving you indigestion as I knew you would have plenty of 
CS/EIS to take care of it
  - Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert 
  To: 'cs' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:34 AM
  Subject: CSEIS


  What is EIS

   Bob

Re: CSEIS

[bob smith]

R.Meredith/Marshall Dudley.
   I have a bad habit of mixing things up.  The P.S. on my reply to R. Meredith 
was intended to be on a reply to M. Dudley. I think its time I change my brand. 
 Bob (hic) Smith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSEIS


  It is a term used here which means Electrolytically Isolated Silver.  It is 
the true colloidal silver made with distilled water, but that term is so 
misused, being applied to everything from silver compounds, MSP and silver gunk 
made with salt or tap water, many of us have started using this unambiguous 
term.  It is typically about 80-90% ionic silver and 10-20% particulate 
colloid. 
  Marshall 

  Medwith, Robert wrote: 

 What is EIS Bob

Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[Jim Holmes]

Garnet wrote:


I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per liter,
so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. 



 


Hi G. and all,

Where did you read that?

JOH


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Re: CSDMSO and CS [was Hello everyone !]

[Garnet]

Oh! Sorry, I typed it by hand and left out part of the link. This should
work.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO


On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:27, Nathan Filyk wrote:
 I tried the link, yahoo couldn't find it.
 
 ~Nathan
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Garnet 
 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:04:23 -0500 
 To: Silver List 
 Subject: CSDMSO and CS [was Hello everyone !] 
 
  I use DMSO and CS internally, to rinse and hold in my mouth for
 tooth 
  and gum disease prevention and I also swallow this. Seems to give
 more 
  of an effect than CS alone although I have not experimented that
 much 
  with using it this way, I have used it to get over an unexpected flu
  bug. Unexpected because I was talking 2 oz of CS a day in the
 morning 
  and thought this was enough. I upped that to twice a day for
 prevention 
  and of course more during the actual time I had symptoms. 
  
  I also use DMSO and CS to nebulize for lung symptoms, as nose drops
 to 
  clear a sinus headache and kills any pathogens hanging about in the 
  mucous. 
  
  Here is the address to a DMSO List I started last winter. Many here
 on 
  this list are also on the DMSO list, but we seem to discuss both
 here as 
  they are often used together. I dilute all of my DMSO with CS rather
  than simply using distilled water, since I make CS and have it on
 hand. 
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO 
  
  Garnet 
  
  On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 09:21, William Amos wrote: 
   I am new to the silver list but not to Colloidals. I am retired
 and spend a lot of time making them. for the past 2-1/2 years. I have
 made Colloidal Silver with a 30 volt DC unit I built. 
   
   Recently I built a 15000 volt AC unit and have been making 
   Gold, Silver, Copper and Zinc. I make and give away the Gold and
 Silver. I am amazed with the results I have been told from people I
 give it to. 
   
   I am still learning, and appreciate the info I receive from your
 feedback. 
   
   I read about mixing CS with DMSO. Is this strictly for topical
 applications. 
   
   More Later 
   
   Bill Amos 
   
   
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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[Garnet]

I knew someone would ask that. I can only tell you that I read it when
first checking out CS last Fall. I started at Silver Medicine.org and
read linked articles. If it is an accurate figure it should not be too
hard to confirm it. The folks that supply systems for boats that use
silver should know.

I can tell you that I made a particular note to remember it as I wanted
to try it at some point.

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:24, Jim Holmes wrote:
 Garnet wrote:
 
 I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per liter,
 so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. 
 
 
   
 
 Hi G. and all,
 
 Where did you read that?
 
 JOH
 
 
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Re: CSNebulizer information needed, please

[Acmeair]

i bought mine off of ebay.  1.7 gallon, ultrasonic, factory re-certified,
and paid 18.99 + shipping.


- Original Message - 
From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: CSNebulizer information needed, please


 Hi,

 I'm going to buy a nebulizer for my Mother to use with Colloidal Silver.
We
 found there is cancer in her lungs, which is causing a great deal of
 coughing.

 I gather the finer the mist, the better the nebulizer?  If this is true,
can
 anyone please tell me what brand to buy?

 Thank you,

 Jean Baugh


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Re: CSCS for purifying water.

[Garnet]

I assume you are using 20 ppm CS to start out with Trem? Which *if* my
math is correct will more than produce a 0.03 ppm solution, it would
actually produce ~ 0.078 ppm.

If you used 15 ml (3 teaspoons) of 20 ppm CS (which contains 20 mg
silver in 1,000 ml) you are adding 0.3 mg of silver to a gallon of
water.

0.3 mg of silver added to 3.84 l of water = ~ 0.078 ppm

If you start with 10 ppm CS, you would end up with ~0.039 ppm by adding
3 teaspoons to one gallon of water. Not too far off from the 0.03 ppm
that I recall being the concentration of CS necessary to keep water
sterile.

Garnet

Conversion Factors:
A gallon of water is 3840 ml or 3.84 l. 
1 ppm = 1 mg of silver / liter of water
1 teaspoon = 5 ml





On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 11:54, Trem wrote:
 I cannot locate the information but I distinctly recall the mention of 1 
 teaspoon per
 gallon being sufficient.  When asked I also say to add an extra teaspoon so 
 for sure
 there's overkill.  That's about one third ounce per gallon.  For sure 1 ounce 
 per
 gallon will do the job Dave.
 
 Trem



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CSCS for purifying water.

[Trem]

Hi Garnet,

My recollection is that it was 5 PPM but could be wrong.  Since CS is so easy 
to make
that's why I tell folks that if some is good...more is better but that a couple 
of
teaspoons per gallon will easily do the trick.

Trem

- Original Message - 
From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 3:48 PM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSCS for purifying water.


 I assume you are using 20 ppm CS to start out with Trem? Which *if* my
 math is correct will more than produce a 0.03 ppm solution, it would
 actually produce ~ 0.078 ppm.

 If you used 15 ml (3 teaspoons) of 20 ppm CS (which contains 20 mg
 silver in 1,000 ml) you are adding 0.3 mg of silver to a gallon of
 water.

 0.3 mg of silver added to 3.84 l of water = ~ 0.078 ppm

 If you start with 10 ppm CS, you would end up with ~0.039 ppm by adding
 3 teaspoons to one gallon of water. Not too far off from the 0.03 ppm
 that I recall being the concentration of CS necessary to keep water
 sterile.

 Garnet

 Conversion Factors:
 A gallon of water is 3840 ml or 3.84 l.
 1 ppm = 1 mg of silver / liter of water
 1 teaspoon = 5 ml





 On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 11:54, Trem wrote:
  I cannot locate the information but I distinctly recall the mention of 1 
  teaspoon
per
  gallon being sufficient.  When asked I also say to add an extra teaspoon so 
  for
sure
  there's overkill.  That's about one third ounce per gallon.  For sure 1 
  ounce per
  gallon will do the job Dave.
 
  Trem



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CS(CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi, 

May I ask, how could H2O2 cause smaller particles of Colloidal Silver unless
it was in the brewing?

Surely you aren't suggesting adding a drop or two of H2O2 per ounce AFTER
the Colloidal Silver is made would cause it to break into smaller particles?

Whichever way it is done, is there really any proof it has an effect on size
of the silver particles?

Thank you,

Jean Baugh



I did some research and found out that some people have found mixing a
little hydrogen peroxide into colloidal silver can make the silver particle
size smaller and more ionic.
 

##  many people on this list do that and like it. Most use off the shelf 3%
an only a couple of drops or less per oz. Use too much and the CS tastes
really nasty. 
 Don't make the CS with peroxide unless you want big silver metalflakes.
  
 


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Re: CSEIS

[Jason Eaton]

MessageHi Bob:

I coined the term Electrically Isolated Silver several years ago.

There were quite a few reasons for doing so.  We received ( and still do ) 
quite a bit of correspondence from people very new to the CS world who quickly 
become very confused about the different products available under the name 
colloidal silver, ionic silver, even atomic or monoatomic silver.  We 
wanted to make an accurate distinction between silver compounds and true 
isolated silver products.

Technically, Electrically Ionized Silver is not accurate.

Isolated Silver does not have to be created via electrolysis, nor does it have 
to necessarily be ionic.  A true silver colloid made via chemical reaction or 
laser production also fits the true defination of EIS:  Electrically Isolated 
Silver.

In fact, I originally borrowed part of the term by doing cursory research on 
particulate silver created with high powered lasers.

Mesosilver, as an example, is an electrically isolated silver product, with a 
higher particulate content than ionic content.  It's the charge characteristics 
AND the chemical make-up that define an isolated silver.

Naming something accurately is an extremely  powerful thing.  As they say:  
Nomen Est Omen - The name is the destiny.

Consider the fact that a UCLA researcher recorded the wavelength of silver, 
and reproduced this electric signature using a gas discharge tube.  When  he 
emitted this wavelength into a petri dish filled with bacteria, the bacteria 
were killed just as if the bacteria had come into contact with silver ions.

In our pursuit for the most biologically effective silver product, we seek 
isolated silver in its truest form possible with the highest possible 
ogliodynamic properties.

Best Regards,

Jason
  - Original Message - 
  From: bob smith 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CSEIS


  I have seen it used on this site a number of times. It  was supposed to stand 
for electrically isolated silver.  I am by no means an authority in any 
technical area but to me it stands for electrically ionized silver.  It has 
been pointed out that what we are generating is not Colloidal Silver. I am not 
the author of that position either.   Bob Smith
P.S. I've been meaning to ask you if my shipment arrived O.K.? I wasn't 
worried about it giving you indigestion as I knew you would have plenty of 
CS/EIS to take care of it
- Original Message - 
From: Medwith, Robert 
To: 'cs' 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: CSEIS


What is EIS

 Bob


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defects in developing fetuses has been known and 
acknowledged since the 1950's. It is well known that many 
mothers are predisposed to folate deficiencies. It is well 
known that 

Re: CSCS MS cure

[nancymike]

I have written to this list on many occaions.  You can find it in the archives, 
but I will again off to send the short journal I kept while curing myself of MS 
with CS. I had MS since 1962 and by Aug 2000 I could barely get around.  Today 
I am 90% cured and I am better than I was 20 years ago.  I owe my new life to 
CS.
Nancy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:11 AM
  Subject: CSCS MS cure


Bob,  This is of great general interest, so can you please post the 
particulars on this list, or, if you decide on the OT list, let us know on this 
list so we will be sure not to miss it.  Congratulations on the achievement, 
both to the 'patient' and to you for your part in the cure.   pj


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Re: CS(CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS + H20)

[sol]

Yes, there is proof. If you have a Hanna PWT and measure the conductance 
of the finished EIS, then add some H202, the conductance will go up.  
I've done this test several times and invariably the uS reading of the 
PWT goes up when H202 is added to EIS. This is true even if the EIS is 
perfectly clear to start with. Adding peroxide can also turn yellow EIS 
clear, another indicator that particles are being reduced or broken into 
smaller particles and ions. I'm not sure I have the terms or the 
mechanism correctly described, but it is a testable result, since it is 
the ions that show conductance, not particles.

sol

oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote:

Hi, 


May I ask, how could H2O2 cause smaller particles of Colloidal Silver unless
it was in the brewing?

Surely you aren't suggesting adding a drop or two of H2O2 per ounce AFTER
the Colloidal Silver is made would cause it to break into smaller particles?

Whichever way it is done, is there really any proof it has an effect on size
of the silver particles?
 






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Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS +H20)

[nancymike]

I agree with you.  The 3% H2o2  increases the efficiency of my CS greatly.
Nancy
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and (CS
+H20)


   If you look at a chemical analysis of food grade H202, which I did
 (nope don't remember the site) it has a LOT of stuff in it.  Maybe
 different stuff, but apparently it is so caustic (?is that the right
 word?) that it is impossible to make it pure as it ends up with
 contaminated with stuff from every pipe and container it is kept in, or
 has passed through.
   After reading the analyses/comparisons between grocery store 3% H202
 with its stabilizers, and the food grade H202 with its dissolved
 contaminants, and given the handling risk with the 35% H202, as well as
 the much higher cost, I decided to stick with grocery store 3%. Anyone
 who is the least bit klutzy or accident prone, as I am, probably should
 not mess with the 35% stuff. And with all my pets, I don't want it around.
   Further, since the amount of peroxide I sometimes add to my CS is so
 miniscule, I don't see the stabilizers as a problem for that reason also.
This is, of course, just my opinion, and a statement of what I do.
 Many folks here disagree and think the 35% is the thing to use. Depends
 on whether you think the contaminants are worse than the stabilizers. Of
 course grocery store H202 may have both. I still won't buy or use the
 35% food grade stuff.

 sol

 Nathan Filyk wrote:

  Or for that matter, hydrogen peroxide with stabling agents to
  colloidal silver. (not the food grade stuff)
 
  ~Nathan
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Garnet
  Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:14 -0500
  To: Silver List
  Subject: Re: CSA couple more questions (CS + Hydrogen Peroxide) and
  (CS +H20)
 
   I read that 0.03 ppm will keep water sterile. One ppm is 1 mg per
  liter,
   so this would be 0.03 mg per liter. Not a whole heck of a lot if this
   figure is accurate.
  
   Garnet
  
   
Also, I have heard some people say that you can add a little
  colloidal
silver to regular water to purify it. Anyone with any
  
  
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