CS>glycerine ??

[Deborah Gerard]

Isn't this the same substance in soap? What kind of soap would you recommend? I 
have a thyroid conditon too and just ordered..Rejuvedine Detoxified Iodine.., V 
..I do have sea salt, would you mix it with anything, peroxide? Or just 
water...I do have some recession in the gum's too back by my molar's. This info 
is so great people I am so pleased...thank youDebbie

Re: CS>C S and Bladder Cancer

[bbanever]

Judy,

Trem just posted some interesting info regarding CS and cancer.  >From is 
site;

http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm

Best of luck.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Corgiville 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:21 PM
  Subject: CS>C S and Bladder Cancer


  Hello. 

  I am new to the silver-list. 

  I was new to c s and was drinking it this last year.  I found out I  had 
bladder cancer in December. I have had surgery and had BCG treatments and am 
now in  maintance with the BCG,  

  I have the generator to make the c s  and a friend that taught me how to use 
it. 

  But when I found out I had bladder cancer I got scared of drinking the C S.  
I was afraid if there was some deposit  of c s that would end up in my bladder 
or if the c s could do any damage and be more of a hinderance than a prevention 
to the bladder cancer. 

  I am eating raw vegetables most of the meals.   No sugar.   No caffine. Drink 
water, green tea, lemon water and eat almonds for the alkaline effect. I do eat 
out once a week maybe twice and that is not good.  Take a variety of vitamins 
that I understand is suspose to be helpful in preventing cancer.

  I am hoping there is someone that knows about bladder cancer and drinking c s.

  I really appreciate all your help. 

  Thank you,
  Judy

Re: CS>Taking CS by sublingual spray

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Presumably you are excluding subatomic particles from the discussion?   
Leptons, mesons, etc.?



On Friday, Mar 18, 2005, at 19:33 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:

There isn't anything smaller than an ion..except maybe a different 
ion. 



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CS>Re[2]: CS>silver allergy and fluoride

[V]

Hi Nenah,

silver jewelry almost always is sterling which has lots of copper and that is 
usually what does the irritation.




Take care,
 V



> - Original Message - 
> From: "Betsy Coffey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:32 PM
Subject: CS>>silver allergy and fluoride


>> How would a person know if they were in fact allergic
>> to silver? I have a friend that can wear some silver
>> jewelry but other silver jewelry makes her itch
>> terribly? She would like to try silver but is afraid
>> of allergic reactions. I am not sure how an allergic
>> reaction would manifest internally. With silver rings,
>> her fingers turn red,itchy and bumpy. But other rings
>> that are silver, she has no problems with.
>> Also regarding fluoride, they added it to our water
>> several years ago and now alot of people(self
>> included)are drinking bottled water. We really dont
>> know what is in bottled water either though. Isnt a
>> form of fluoride in the drug cipro and also prozac?


> Betsy,
> One thing to realize is that jewelry presumably made of "silver" is mixed
> with nickel and other metals. This includes "sterling" silver, which is not
> pure enough to be used for making CS. So-called "Mexican silver" is not even
> silver at all.

> Add to the mix the fact that excess acidity on the skin can make jewelry 
> tarnish. Now you really have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what's 
> going on! Is your friend truly allergic to silver? Or is it the other metals
> mixed in *with* the silver? Or, is it the interaction of toxins excreted by
> the skin that are interacting with the jewelry she's wearing?

> You give us clues by telling us that she can wear some "silver" jewelry but
> not other jewelry. I would *guess* (and this is my opinion ONLY) that she's
> not allergic to silver, but that she is reacting to some of the other 
> metals.

> I would also *guess* that silver in its ionic or even colloidal (larger 
> particles) form might induce a different response than silver worn on the
> skin.

> It might be worth taking a tiny amount of CS -- say, 1/4 teaspoon -- in 8
> ounces of good water and seeing if there are any negative reactions. If not,
> your friend can build up to larger, more concentated doses. CS is such a 
> valuable healing tool that it might be worth the slight risk of itching.

> Best,
> Nenah

> Nenah Sylver, PhD
> http://www.nenahsylver.com
> available now:
> The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
> The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
> products and services for wellness 



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Re: CS>silver allergy and fluoride

[Nenah Sylver]

- Original Message - 
From: "Betsy Coffey" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:32 PM
Subject: CS>silver allergy and fluoride



How would a person know if they were in fact allergic
to silver? I have a friend that can wear some silver
jewelry but other silver jewelry makes her itch
terribly? She would like to try silver but is afraid
of allergic reactions. I am not sure how an allergic
reaction would manifest internally. With silver rings,
her fingers turn red,itchy and bumpy. But other rings
that are silver, she has no problems with.
Also regarding fluoride, they added it to our water
several years ago and now alot of people(self
included)are drinking bottled water. We really dont
know what is in bottled water either though. Isnt a
form of fluoride in the drug cipro and also prozac?



Betsy,
One thing to realize is that jewelry presumably made of "silver" is mixed 
with nickel and other metals. This includes "sterling" silver, which is not 
pure enough to be used for making CS. So-called "Mexican silver" is not even 
silver at all.


Add to the mix the fact that excess acidity on the skin can make jewelry 
tarnish. Now you really have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what's 
going on! Is your friend truly allergic to silver? Or is it the other metals 
mixed in *with* the silver? Or, is it the interaction of toxins excreted by 
the skin that are interacting with the jewelry she's wearing?


You give us clues by telling us that she can wear some "silver" jewelry but 
not other jewelry. I would *guess* (and this is my opinion ONLY) that she's 
not allergic to silver, but that she is reacting to some of the other 
metals.


I would also *guess* that silver in its ionic or even colloidal (larger 
particles) form might induce a different response than silver worn on the 
skin.


It might be worth taking a tiny amount of CS -- say, 1/4 teaspoon -- in 8 
ounces of good water and seeing if there are any negative reactions. If not, 
your friend can build up to larger, more concentated doses. CS is such a 
valuable healing tool that it might be worth the slight risk of itching.


Best,
Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD
http://www.nenahsylver.com
available now:
The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
products and services for wellness 




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Re: CS>C S and Bladder Cancer

[V]

Hi Corgiville,

It also has potent antioxidant properties. According to the information sent 
Russian researchers have found that the oral administration of Rhodiola 
inhibited tumor growths in rats by 39% and decreased metastasis by 50%. It 
improved urinary tissue and immunity in patients with bladder cancer. In other 
experiments with various types of cancer, including adenocarcinomas, the use of 
extracts of Rhodiola Rosea resulted in significant increased survival rate. THE 
PROJECT WILL TRY TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS TO OBTAIN THE ORIGINAL STUDIES.
http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/rhodrosroot.html




Take care,
 V


> Hello. 

> I am new to the silver-list. 

> I was new to c s and was drinking it this last year.  I found out I 
> had bladder cancer in December. I have had surgery and had BCG treatments
> and am now in  maintance with the BCG,  

> I have the generator to make the c s  and a friend that taught me how to use 
> it.

> But when I found out I had bladder cancer I got scared of drinking the
> C S.  I was afraid if there was some deposit  of c s that would end up in
> my bladder or if the c s could do any damage and be more of a hinderance
> than a prevention to the bladder cancer. 

> I am eating raw vegetables most of the meals.   No sugar.   No
> caffine. Drink water, green tea, lemon water and eat almonds for the
> alkaline effect. I do eat out once a week maybe twice and that is not
> good.  Take a variety of vitamins that I understand is suspose to be
> helpful in preventing cancer.

> I am hoping there is someone that knows about bladder cancer and drinking c s.

> I really appreciate all your help. 

> Thank you,
> Judy





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CS>silver allergy and fluoride

[Betsy Coffey]

How would a person know if they were in fact allergic
to silver? I have a friend that can wear some silver
jewelry but other silver jewelry makes her itch
terribly? She would like to try silver but is afraid
of allergic reactions. I am not sure how an allergic
reaction would manifest internally. With silver rings,
her fingers turn red,itchy and bumpy. But other rings
that are silver, she has no problems with.
Also regarding fluoride, they added it to our water 
several years ago and now alot of people(self
included)are drinking bottled water. We really dont
know what is in bottled water either though. Isnt a
form of fluoride in the drug cipro and also prozac?



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CS>C S and Bladder Cancer

[Corgiville]

Hello. 

I am new to the silver-list. 

I was new to c s and was drinking it this last year.  I found out I  had 
bladder cancer in December. I have had surgery and had BCG treatments and am 
now in  maintance with the BCG,  

I have the generator to make the c s  and a friend that taught me how to use 
it. 

But when I found out I had bladder cancer I got scared of drinking the C S.  I 
was afraid if there was some deposit  of c s that would end up in my bladder or 
if the c s could do any damage and be more of a hinderance than a prevention to 
the bladder cancer. 

I am eating raw vegetables most of the meals.   No sugar.   No caffine. Drink 
water, green tea, lemon water and eat almonds for the alkaline effect. I do eat 
out once a week maybe twice and that is not good.  Take a variety of vitamins 
that I understand is suspose to be helpful in preventing cancer.

I am hoping there is someone that knows about bladder cancer and drinking c s.

I really appreciate all your help. 

Thank you,
Judy

Re: CS>Where to get DMSO

[sol]

How did you determine the quality is better? My main reason for not 
buying at a feedstore is  unknown quality, so if there is a specific way 
to determine this, I'd sure like to know.

sol

betty shelly wrote:

I also buy my DMSO at the feed store, as well as bulk MSM.  Much less 
expensive than the health food store and better quality, go figure!





 




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[betty shelly]

I also buy my DMSO at the feed store, as well as bulk MSM.  Much less expensive 
than the health food store and better quality, go figure!

CS>NOW Foods - 02.25.05--Codex Fact or Fiction

[Charles Sutton]

>From my NOW Foods Newsletter 3/17/05

 http://www.nowfoods.com/?action=itemdetail&item_id=44090

NOW Foods - 02.25.05--Codex Fact or Fiction.url
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CS>Essential oil booklist, was Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[sol]

Here is another site I just looked at, gives a list of books.
http://theguidetoaromatherapy.com/

I guess this topic should be moved to the OT list about now?
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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[sol]

Both the English and French "schools" of thought about essential oils 
have their followers. One good general resource for the "english" is 
"Aromatherapy, an A-Z" by Patricia Davis. It is an excellent book 
because it gives the chemical constituents of each oil. However the oil 
constituents are even more complex than that, and one could go very 
deeply into it. Even if one chooses to follow the "french" school of 
thought, ithe Davis book valuable for the general chemical info on each 
oil. I obviously follow the english way, Christine the french, so she 
may be able to recommend other resources pertaining to that way.  

Here are a few resources, there are probably newer ones, I'm no longer 
active in pursuing the latest info, but these may be a place to start. 
There are also national associations of aromatherapists and so on.


Essential Oils Desk 
Reference, Second Edition. Compiled by Essential Science Publishing, 2001
Buckle, J. 1997: Clinical Aromatherapy in Nursing.  San Diego, CA:  
Singular Publishing Group
Tisserand, R. and Balacs, T.  1995: Essential Oil Safety: A Guide for 
Healthcare Professionals. London:   Churchill Livingstone,
Sheppard-Hanger, S. 1995: 
Aromatherapy Practitioner 
Reference Manual. Tampa, FLA: Atlantic Institute ofAromatherapy
Watt, M. 1996: Essential Oil Monographs. Tampa, FLA, Atlantic Institute 
of Aromatherapy



Regardless of which way of dealing with essential oils seems best to you 
it is important to note that essential oils are unsafe for cats. 
http://www.thelavendercat.com/generic.htm  And it has recently come to 
my attention that dogs have died from applications of even diluted tea 
tree oil. I'm not saying essential oils are not powerful and valuable 
quite the opposite: they are indeed just that, and so require respect 
and knowledge. Any essential oil in my view, can be toxic used 
inappropriately or carelessly.


There are various sources of good quality oils. It is important to 
choose unadulterated pure essential oils, organic is best.
For really good quality oils if you can afford them: 
http://www.kobashi.co.uk/

sol


ch wrote:

Where is the best place to learn about Essential Oils?  Ya'll are 
making them sound effective but dangerous, why?


Thanks,




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RE: CS>water debate

[Jim Holmes]

Better back off on the Acid yogiboy

-Original Message-
From: Yogiboy [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>water debate

Ode,

Are you familiar with the name Dr. David Hawkins?
What you speak of is very much along the same lines which he speaks and
writes about. 

http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml

very fascinating stuff. Check it out.

E



 
> Everything in the universe is absolutely connected.
> "People" as personalities can only exist and be self aware as some
degree of
> denial of that connection.
> Ego is the moderator and director of denial. It is a neccessary tool
used to
> exist as 'not everyone, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the
time'
> It 'claims' specific powers by denying absolute all inclusive power.
> There are as many quirks and configurations of denial patterns as
there are
> people. 




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RE: CS>Getting Fluoride Out Of Drinking Water

[Jim Holmes]

They are deadly serious about keeping the fluoride in the water.  A friend
who was persistently active about the issue received incredible harassment,
including death threats. 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Getting Fluoride Out Of Drinking Water

If this is correct, you have hit upon the strategy that would make it
possible to remove fluorine from drinking water.  

IE:  FLUORIDE = FAT

De-fluoridation would have massive popular support as, judging from the
diet phenomenon, people do not want to be overly fat and will go to
extremes to remedy it.

Dan




Re: CS>No more toothpaste

From: Denise Every wrote
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:47:43 




Fluoride depresses thyroid function.  In fact, years ago, before
doctors 
started using radioactive iodide to squelch thyroid function in 
hyperthyroidism, they used to use fluoride!  (Which REALLY begs the
question 
why fluoride was ever added to municipal water systems... is it any 
coincidence that hypothyroidism is practically a pandemic in people,
and 
even in our dogs???)

http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78494.html


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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[ch]

Where is the best place to learn about Essential Oils?  Ya'll are making 
them sound effective but dangerous, why?


Thanks,
Cindy



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CS>Re[2]: CS>Hanna testers

[V]

Important information, read all the way to the bottom

http://www.silvergen.com/ppm_meter.htm





Take care,
 V


> Hi Sally,

>  I just saw a good PPM tester for
> only $17.  http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/han-tds1.htm




> Take care,
>  V


>> I need advice on a water tester for making CS.  I'd appreciate any input.
 
>> Feel free to email me privately, if necessary.
 
>> Thanks,
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[cliff hume]

Contact  www.nexusmagazine.com 




- Original Message - 
From: "Shirley Reed" 

To: 
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Subject: CS>V and Christine re regeneration



I'm still a bit buggy eyed and gasping from those
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Re: CS>water debate

[Sally Khanna]

I second that, Ode.  Lovely!  You have the ability to articulate things that 
are difficult to explain.  May I share it with some on my friends??  
 
Sally

Christine Carleton  wrote:
Beautiful. Thank you. CC

> From: Ode Coyote 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:00:12 -0500
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>water debate
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:44:46 -0800
> 
> Everything in the universe is absolutely connected.
> "People" as personalities can only exist and be self aware as some degree of
> denial of that connection.
> Ego is the moderator and director of denial. It is a neccessary tool used to
> exist as 'not everyone, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the time'
> It 'claims' specific powers by denying absolute all inclusive power.
> There are as many quirks and configurations of denial patterns as there are
> people. 
> It's what makes each person unique and makes 'people' possible.
> 
> Dowsing and any connectivity related activity requires a 'not doing'...a sort
> of not caring and non involvement.
> Since psychics and healers are usually VERY involved with themselves and those
> close to them, their abilities won't work there.
> You may be able to dowse a strangers well but not your own.
> Most psychics can tell you all about you and nothing about themselves. Their
> lives and relationships are usually a real mess.
> Back when I used to do healing work, I always felt like meddler. I quit. [for
> the most part] You have a right to your drama.
> 
> Psychics, dowsers and healers just have a sort of egoic 'leakyness' in their
> personality configurations. It's generally a very specific hole in the denial
> defense mechanism that keeps the entire perceptual universe from collapsing
> into perfection realized. [Perfection is not very exciting. "Life" and where
> life happens, as we see it and think we know it, is an amazement park...a
> constructed adventure.]
> 
> Ego says that anything that can be done requires effort...a 'doing'
> The reality is that everything is already done and no effort is required.
> Everything that is, was and ever will be, already exists as a perfect and
> complete chaos...in other words, absolute order. [Each viewpoint completely
> envelopes the other]
> The function of the senses is to pick patterns out of that chaos and deny all
> that doesn't fit the pattern.
> The fact is that perception itself is something that is being "done" and
> requires enormous constant effort..seeing 'what is' by eliminating all else
> from perception that 'also is' by placing it somewhere other than an all
> inclusive 'here' and holding it there.
> There is no there...only places 'seen as' other than here by a sensory
> apperatus designed specifically to do that.
> 
> The "mind" is nonlocal and exists everywhere. It is not in the brain.
> The brain is a mind regulator, like a valve or tuned radio.
> ..a radio is working well when it 'tunes out' signals.
> The ego is that which turns the dial to keep the radio tuned.
> A strong ego is like a PLL circuit [Phase Locked Loop] that automatically
> keeps todays FM radios from drifting off signal.
> A very strong ego makes the world look binary...and very very 'real'.
> 
> You could look at brain waves as inductance effects or harmonic opposite phase
> cancellation signals.
> A telepath doesn't "transmit" anything anywhere. It's already everywhere.
> 
> 
> All boxes are self constructed 'constructs' used to define your personal
> reality and the current version of self that lives inside it.
> Get it? 
> 
> 
> PS I know a few people that live concurrent lives on different planets.
> ["This" universe? Who knows? Irrelevant] They can maintain distinctions
> between them...control the "cross talk"... and operate with sanity. They
> have never told ANYONE but me.
> The stories are facinating and detailed.
> They tend towards being hermits and live very simple lives, mostly way far out
> in the forest. 
> One such person was wanting some way to never come in and still support
> herself. She should write.
> ...too private. Perhaps writing it down would make it all seem a bit TOO
> real? 
> 
> Ode 
> 


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Re: CS>V and Christine re regeneration

[cliff hume]

You can send it to me as well, Sasha. ch...@shaw.ca 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Essentially Sasha 
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  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>V and Christine re regeneration


Shirley,

You can write me off list, and I will supply you with some eye opening 
information.
Sasha
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Date: 03/18/05 09:06:53
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>V and Christine re regeneration

I'm still a bit buggy eyed and gasping from those
posts about limbs regenerating.  Any links?  tia  pj



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Re: CS>V and Christine re regeneration

[Essentially Sasha]

Shirley,

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information.
Sasha
sa...@9solutions.com
 
 
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Subject: CS>V and Christine re regeneration
 
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posts about limbs regenerating.  Any links?  tia  pj
 
 
 
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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[Christine Carleton]

It costs to meet ISO-9002 standards.  Just business. Confirms chemical bench
marks for vet or medical use.  Oils often work in serious situations where
other things have not.  eg = dental infections from implants, or help with
withdrawal from anti-depressants, or the big C prostate & breast etc.  CC

> From: sol 
> Subject: Re: CS>Essential oils cautions
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:42:57 -0800
> 
> What I go with is that the company that YLO says certifies their oils
> has stated that they do NOT certify oils. What they do is "certify"
> companies..for a fee.
> 
> sol
> 
> Christine Carleton wrote:
> 
>> OPO - other people's opinions are formed by their experiences - both
>> disappointments and success.  Having 14-15 years with oils from all over the
>> world, my experience differs from your opinion.  Thank God we are not all
>> the same or we would have nothing to talk about.  CC
>> 


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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[Christine Carleton]

Sally,
I agree - sometimes life giving -
CC

From: Sally Khanna 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:45:50 -0800


Hi Sol,

I don't know about YL oils, but I've had experience with some and not all
are dangerous to apply directly to the skin.  In Ayurveda, applying certain
essential oils directly to marma points can bring about dramatic changes.

Sally

CS>V and Christine re regeneration

[Shirley Reed]

I'm still a bit buggy eyed and gasping from those
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CS>

[Essentially Sasha]

Ode, Erna

You speak my language.  For this post, I have substituted the Self with the
word dowser and I know you will understand. I agree, we are all born dowsers
.  This is a universal law.  But, unfortunately, in just a short while we
forget WHAT we are.  Our entire being is a dowsing mechanism, that can go
deep, high, far, and wide in every direction, and we can learn to use it as
such.  Each of us is born with this ability, this innate quality, and this
orientation.   When we stay present and tuned in to that orientation or
sensitivity, we develop mastery or expertise, and become exactly what we are
  A Full Human BEING.   We are always seeking outside of ourselves to find
that which is.  By bits, and pieces of the whole, we come together in such
groups as these to share our expertise, our bit and piece, and to integrate
into the larger dowsing energy that other dowsers contribute in order to
attempt to experience the whole.  I'll bet if you asked any old time dowser
about 'trust' he would look at you funny, and ask, "What do you mean?"  This
is because -- A good dowser is TRUST. He/She is a piece of what is and doesn
t question it, that would be seeking outside of oneself again. There is no
question, not even the thought about trust.  He/She simply Knows.  And, for
those practicing, a good dowsing tool can be your friend.  It is a tool that
can be used to attract insight with just a question.  The deeper the
question, the deeper the opening.  All it is is an extension of the energy
of the Universe.
 
Namaste
Sasha  
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans
Date: 03/17/05 11:22:17
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>waterdebate
 
Hello Marshall and Sally,
 
You are certainly right, about that you get what you believe in; thoughts
are things, aren't they?  I realise that this biotensor (or dowsing rod, or
pendulum or even a string with a wedding ring!) are all only MEANS or TOOLS.
We people have forgotten who we really are, but as soon as we dare to trust
again completely on our feeling or intuition (= our Higher Self or what you
want to call it) we don't need biotensors or any of this kind of tools
anymore. We then simply KNOW what we need to know, for instance if the
amount of CS is enough to clear the water. And we are able to heal ourselves
 by just concentrating with warm attention on the painful spot. I am sure
that by using such a device one's  intuition gets stronger, so that at a
certain moment you don't need it anymore - you just KNOW. But until then, I
am very happy that I am able to use such a useful device, as it strenghtens
the intuition as well. 
 
Erna
 
 

RE: CS>water debate

[Yogiboy]

Ode,

Are you familiar with the name Dr. David Hawkins?
What you speak of is very much along the same lines which he speaks and
writes about. 

http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml

very fascinating stuff. Check it out.

E



 
> Everything in the universe is absolutely connected.
> "People" as personalities can only exist and be self aware as some
degree of
> denial of that connection.
> Ego is the moderator and director of denial. It is a neccessary tool
used to
> exist as 'not everyone, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the
time'
> It 'claims' specific powers by denying absolute all inclusive power.
> There are as many quirks and configurations of denial patterns as
there are
> people. 




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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[Sally Khanna]

Hi Sol,
 
I don't know about YL oils, but I've had experience with some and not all are 
dangerous to apply directly to the skin.  In Ayurveda, applying certain 
essential oils directly to marma points can bring about dramatic changes.  
 
Sally

sol  wrote:
Young Living makes a number of totally worthless claims for their oils, 
the most dangerous being that they are "therapeutic grade" and therefore 
somehow purer than other oils and therefore somehow the chemistry of the 
constituents of the oils doesn't matter and one can ingest or apply 
toxic oils straight and undiluted onto the skin. This is simply 
multi-marketing advertising, and also as I said, extremely dangerous. 
Both humans and animals (especially cats) have been harmed by their 
recommended uses of oils.

It is never safe to ignore basic chemistry. I cannot state strongly 
enough that one needs to turn to a reputable source of information on 
the chemistry of essential oils, such as Aromatherapy, An A-Z by 
Patricia Davis. Fooling around with "recommendations" from a 
multi-marketing company with a poor record of safety is taking a huge 
leap of faith into serious risk and danger, no matter what their 
marketing claims are.

sol



Essentially Sasha wrote:

> Christine,
> 
> Go to YoungLivingOils.com. These are essential oils, totally organic, 
> 100% natural. They will also assist on advising combinations.
> 
> Sasha 
> 
>
>


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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[sol]

What I go with is that the company that YLO says certifies their oils 
has stated that they do NOT certify oils. What they do is "certify" 
companies..for a fee.


sol

Christine Carleton wrote:


OPO - other people's opinions are formed by their experiences - both
disappointments and success.  Having 14-15 years with oils from all over the
world, my experience differs from your opinion.  Thank God we are not all
the same or we would have nothing to talk about.  CC

 

 




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Re: CS>Essential oils cautions

[Christine Carleton]

OPO - other people's opinions are formed by their experiences - both
disappointments and success.  Having 14-15 years with oils from all over the
world, my experience differs from your opinion.  Thank God we are not all
the same or we would have nothing to talk about.  CC

> From: sol 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:42:16 -0700
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Essential oils cautions
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:43:05 -0800
> 
> Young Living makes a number of totally worthless claims for their oils,
> the most dangerous being that they are "therapeutic grade" and therefore
> somehow purer than other oils and therefore somehow the chemistry of the
> constituents of the oils doesn't matter and one can ingest or apply
> toxic oils straight and undiluted onto the skin. This is simply
> multi-marketing advertising, and also as I said, extremely dangerous.
> Both humans and animals (especially cats) have been harmed by their
> recommended uses of oils.
> 
> It is never safe to ignore basic chemistry. I cannot state strongly
> enough that one needs to turn to a reputable source of information on
> the chemistry of essential oils, such as Aromatherapy, An A-Z by
> Patricia Davis. Fooling around with "recommendations" from a
> multi-marketing company with a poor record of safety is taking a huge
> leap of faith into serious risk and danger, no matter what their
> marketing claims are.
> 
> sol


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CS>Essential oils cautions

[sol]

Young Living makes a number of totally worthless claims for their oils, 
the most dangerous being that they are "therapeutic grade" and therefore 
somehow purer than other oils and therefore somehow the chemistry of the 
constituents of the oils doesn't matter and one can ingest or apply 
toxic oils straight and undiluted onto the skin. This is simply 
multi-marketing advertising, and also as I said, extremely dangerous. 
Both humans and animals (especially cats) have been harmed by their 
recommended uses of oils.


It is never safe to ignore basic chemistry. I cannot state strongly 
enough that one needs to turn to a reputable source of information on 
the chemistry of essential oils, such as Aromatherapy, An A-Z by 
Patricia Davis. Fooling around with "recommendations" from a 
multi-marketing company with a poor record of safety is taking a huge 
leap of faith into serious risk and danger, no matter what their 
marketing claims are.


sol



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Christine,
 
Go to YoungLivingOils.com.  These are essential oils, totally organic, 
100% natural.  They will also assist on advising combinations.
 
Sasha 
 






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CS>Getting Fluoride Out Of Drinking Water

[Dan Nave]

If this is correct, you have hit upon the strategy that would make it
possible to remove fluorine from drinking water.  

IE:  FLUORIDE = FAT

De-fluoridation would have massive popular support as, judging from the
diet phenomenon, people do not want to be overly fat and will go to
extremes to remedy it.

Dan




Re: CS>No more toothpaste

From: Denise Every wrote
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:47:43 



Fluoride depresses thyroid function.  In fact, years ago, before
doctors 
started using radioactive iodide to squelch thyroid function in 
hyperthyroidism, they used to use fluoride!  (Which REALLY begs the
question 
why fluoride was ever added to municipal water systems... is it any 
coincidence that hypothyroidism is practically a pandemic in people,
and 
even in our dogs???)

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Re: CS>Holistic Arts Dentist database

[Christine Carleton]

Check the Common Ground magazine and the dental schools.

From: "Yogiboy" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:07:10 -0500
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Holistic Arts Dentist database
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:07:33 -0800


Is there one for the Canadian side?

 

Ernie 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Holistic Arts Dentist database

 
http://www.haha-il.org/membersearch.asp

Re: CS>water debate

[Christine Carleton]

Beautiful.  Thank you.  CC

> From: Ode Coyote 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:00:12 -0500
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>water debate
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:44:46 -0800
> 
> Everything in the universe is absolutely connected.
> "People" as personalities can only exist and be self aware as some degree of
> denial of that connection.
> Ego is the moderator and director of denial. It is a neccessary tool used to
> exist as 'not everyone, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the time'
> It 'claims' specific powers by denying absolute all inclusive power.
> There are as many quirks and configurations of denial patterns as there are
> people. 
> It's what makes each person unique and makes 'people' possible.
> 
> Dowsing and any connectivity related activity requires a 'not doing'...a sort
> of not caring and non involvement.
> Since psychics and healers are usually VERY involved with themselves and those
> close to them, their abilities won't work there.
> You may be able to dowse a strangers well but not your own.
> Most psychics can tell you all about you and nothing about themselves.  Their
> lives and relationships are usually a real mess.
> Back when I used to do healing work, I always felt like meddler.  I quit. [for
> the most part]  You have a right to your drama.
> 
> Psychics, dowsers and healers just have a sort of egoic 'leakyness' in their
> personality configurations. It's generally a very specific hole in the denial
> defense mechanism that keeps the entire perceptual universe from collapsing
> into perfection realized. [Perfection is not very exciting.  "Life" and where
> life happens, as we see it and think we know it, is an amazement park...a
> constructed adventure.]
> 
> Ego says that anything that can be done requires effort...a 'doing'
> The reality is that everything is already done and no effort is required.
> Everything that is, was and ever will be, already exists as a perfect and
> complete chaos...in other words, absolute order. [Each viewpoint completely
> envelopes the other]
> The function of the senses is to pick patterns out of that chaos and deny all
> that doesn't fit the pattern.
> The fact is that perception itself is something that is being "done" and
> requires enormous constant effort..seeing 'what is' by eliminating all else
> from perception that 'also is' by placing it somewhere other than an all
> inclusive 'here' and holding it there.
> There is no there...only places 'seen as' other than here by a sensory
> apperatus designed specifically to do that.
> 
> The "mind" is nonlocal and exists everywhere. It is not in the brain.
> The brain is a mind regulator, like a valve or tuned radio.
> ..a radio is working well when it 'tunes out' signals.
> The ego is that which turns the dial to keep the radio tuned.
> A strong ego is like a PLL circuit [Phase Locked Loop] that automatically
> keeps todays FM radios from drifting off signal.
> A very strong ego makes the world look binary...and very very 'real'.
> 
> You could look at brain waves as inductance effects or harmonic opposite phase
> cancellation signals.
> A telepath doesn't "transmit" anything anywhere. It's already everywhere.
> 
> 
> All boxes are self constructed 'constructs' used to define your personal
> reality and the current version of self that lives inside it.
> Get it? 
> 
> 
> PS  I know a few people that live concurrent lives on different planets.
> ["This" universe?  Who knows? Irrelevant] They can maintain distinctions
> between them...control the "cross talk"... and operate with sanity.They
> have never told ANYONE but me.
> The stories are facinating and detailed.
> They tend towards being hermits and live very simple lives, mostly way far out
> in the forest. 
> One such person was wanting some way to never come in and still support
> herself.  She should write.
> ...too private.  Perhaps writing it down would make it all seem a bit TOO
> real? 
> 
> Ode 
> 


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RE: CS>Holistic Arts Dentist database

[Yogiboy]

Is there one for the Canadian side?
 
Ernie
 
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:23 AM
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Subject: CS>Holistic Arts Dentist database
 
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Re: CS>water debate

[Ode Coyote]

 Everything in the universe is absolutely connected.
"People" as personalities can only exist and be self aware as some degree of denial of that connection.
Ego is the moderator and director of denial. It is a neccessary tool used to exist as 'not everyone, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the time'
It 'claims' specific powers by denying absolute all inclusive power.
There are as many quirks and configurations of denial patterns as there are people.
It's what makes each person unique and makes 'people' possible.

Dowsing and any connectivity related activity requires a 'not doing'...a sort of not caring and non involvement.
Since psychics and healers are usually VERY involved with themselves and those close to them, their abilities won't work there.
You may be able to dowse a strangers well but not your own.
Most psychics can tell you all about you and nothing about themselves.  Their lives and relationships are usually a real mess.
Back when I used to do healing work, I always felt like meddler.  I quit. [for the most part]  You have a right to your drama.

Psychics, dowsers and healers just have a sort of egoic 'leakyness' in their personality configurations. It's generally a very specific hole in the denial defense mechanism that keeps the entire perceptual universe from collapsing into perfection realized. [Perfection is not very exciting.  "Life" and where life happens, as we see it and think we know it, is an amazement park...a constructed adventure.]

Ego says that anything that can be done requires effort...a 'doing'
The reality is that everything is already done and no effort is required.
Everything that is, was and ever will be, already exists as a perfect and complete chaos...in other words, absolute order. [Each viewpoint completely envelopes the other]
The function of the senses is to pick patterns out of that chaos and deny all that doesn't fit the pattern.
The fact is that perception itself is something that is being "done" and requires enormous constant effort..seeing 'what is' by eliminating all else from perception that 'also is' by placing it somewhere other than an all inclusive 'here' and holding it there.
There is no there...only places 'seen as' other than here by a sensory apperatus designed specifically to do that.

The "mind" is nonlocal and exists everywhere. It is not in the brain.
The brain is a mind regulator, like a valve or tuned radio.
..a radio is working well when it 'tunes out' signals.
The ego is that which turns the dial to keep the radio tuned.
A strong ego is like a PLL circuit [Phase Locked Loop] that automatically keeps todays FM radios from drifting off signal.
A very strong ego makes the world look binary...and very very 'real'.

You could look at brain waves as inductance effects or harmonic opposite phase cancellation signals.
A telepath doesn't "transmit" anything anywhere. It's already everywhere.


All boxes are self constructed 'constructs' used to define your personal reality and the current version of self that lives inside it.
Get it?


PS  I know a few people that live concurrent lives on different planets. ["This" universe?  Who knows? Irrelevant] They can maintain distinctions between them...control the "cross talk"... and operate with sanity.They have never told ANYONE but me.
The stories are facinating and detailed.
They tend towards being hermits and live very simple lives, mostly way far out in the forest.
One such person was wanting some way to never come in and still support herself.  She should write.
...too private.  Perhaps writing it down would make it all seem a bit TOO real?

Ode


At 07:55 PM 3/17/2005 -0400, you wrote: 

but ode, the dowser is the person...the  coathanger or whatever is just the tool the dowser uses
  
can everyone dowse?
  
most don't think so, but those who can often know they can do it but not why...
  
we have stumbled on another, perhaps out of the box and false, reason why some can and some can't..
  
my sister, who is a great dowser, has many full wells to her credit, and also has hemochromotosis,  (HH) , where there is too much concentration of iron in the blood and organs. it is a very common, and mostly undiagnosed, celtic disorder can the iron affect an ability to feel water running, and perhape the amount of iron in it, where the "quality question" comes into play?
  
it seems she is not the only one we know with this ability, and disease...
  
anyone care to comment on the possibility, or from knowledge?
  
lagoon
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From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>water debate


It's not the rod but the dowser.
Any rod is suitable, a pendulum, a couple of pieces of old  coathanger...
Reliable and accurate..also, the dowser.

Ode


At 02:08 PM 3/16/2005 +0100, you wrote: 

Hello,

I have read with much interest your debate uptil now. If I understand it well, the debate concerns the quality of tapwat

Re: CS>No more toothpaste

[Ode Coyote]

 A leak is nothing more than a cavity growing on the edge of a filling.
CS stops those cavities from growing and stabilizes any mercury that it's
exposed to.
 A good dentist puts a liner in the filling first before the amalgum goes
in if it's deep enough to make contact with a nerve or blood flow...silver
leaf, I think.

 I have a lady friend whos childhood dentist stuffed the hole with cotton
first, then put amalgum on top.
 If he wasn't dead now, he'd be one sued dentist. [She's a lawyer]

Ode [Ken]

At 09:37 AM 3/17/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Ken--Thanks for your reply to this.  If I may ask, how would one know if a  
>leak did develop?  Is there a way to detect this without waiting for  
>mercury related symptoms to appear?
>
>Best,
>Deborah
>
>
>
>On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:05:27 -0500, Ode Coyote   
>wrote:
>
>>
>>  I can't see any way that adding silver to an unbalanced mercury/silver
>> amalgum will not harden and further stabilize the alloy.
>>  I have not had a single leak develop in my many fillings since using
>> CS...and no mercury related problems...and NO more cavities to be filled.
>>
>> Ode [Ken]
>
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RE: CS>Finding a holistic dentist

[Ode Coyote]

 The most probable cause of teeth cracking is from flouridosis...from using flourides that make teeth brittle.
It can be seen as white mottled spots on a tooth.
Amalgum is not as strong as a tooth. If the filling is large, it can leave little bone to take stresses and there are many stress fracture points in the mechanical configuration of, especially, a molar.
Porcelain is probably harder than tooth material and could act as a wedge under pressure to crack a molar while a softer more ductile material wouldn't.
Perhaps 'porcelain' is stronger..but it does tend to leak a bit more.  The bond isn't 'as' good.
There are newer 'composite' materials?
Probably so.

Ode

At 07:39 AM 3/17/2005 -0800, you wrote: 

I happened upon a more holistic dentist quite by accident&it turns out that hes very young. Fresh out of school; just starting his practice. Hes managed to be very open to what his patients request and has decided that hell only fill with composite, never amalgam. Hes replaced 4 of my amalgam fillings already & will probably finish the job over the next 2 years (as my insurance allows). He told me that theyre finding that old amalgam causes the teeth to crack eventually because it doesnt adhere well & wears away from the tooth, allowing gaps that encourage particles to wedge in & bacteria to grow. The cracks take years to form, but they almost always do. He believes in the composite because its inert (supposedly) once its cured & it adheres to the tooth material in a much more complete bond.

 

I suppose getting a young/new one may help&finding a truly holistic dentist may prove difficult. I can honestly say Ive never actually heard of such a thing. Pain-free, yes&holistic? Not so much.

 

Heather

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:50 AM
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Subject: CS>Finding a holistic dentist

 

Hello all--

  Just wondering; where does one start looking for a holistic dentist?   I imagine I'm going to have a little trouble finding one in central Illinois.  My dentist will remove them, abeit reluctantly, but I want to find one that believes in the necessity of removing them as well as take the necessary precautions.

thanks!

Theresa


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Re: CS>waterdebate

[Ode Coyote]

  Could it be that the nerve endings are simply moved and the brain doesn't know how long they should be?
There is a therapy for phantom limb syndrome that consists of looking in a mirror in a way that makes it look to the brain like the missing limb is there and stretching the remaining limb.  Pain, cramping etc. goes away as the brain is fooled into thinking it stretched and excercized the missing one.

Ode

At 11:39 AM 3/17/2005 -0800, you wrote: 

This I'm starting to believe has more truth than not Sally.  Especially, the more I am learning about Energy Medicine in which it is noted pain and sensitivities in the arms and legs of amputees.  It seems the energy meridians are still there even though the physical part is not.
Sasha


From: Sally Khanna
Date: 03/17/05 09:51:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>waterdebate


I agree 100%, Marshall.  We limit ourselves by our belief.


For instance, has anyone heard that in some societies people can regenerate extremeties simply because no one told them they can't?


Sally
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Re: CS>Where to buy DMSO?

[Ode Coyote]

 DMSO.com used to have a pretty good deal going.
Ode

At 09:16 AM 3/17/2005 EST, you wrote: 

Can anyone suggest a source from which I can purchase DMSO?  Thanks.

Christy Barton
Columbia, Missouri 

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Re: CS>waterdebate

[Ode Coyote]

  A possible problem with adding CS to a well is what happens to the water afterwards.
Most people who have a well also have a septic tank that depends on microbes to function properly.

Ode

At 04:24 PM 3/17/2005 +0100, you wrote: 

Hello Richard Harris and Harold MacDonald,
  
Thanks for your reaction on my previous remark about wanting to use a dowsing-rod with regard to waterpurification by using CS.
I am afraid perhaps there is a little miscommunication here, due to an English language mistake on my part. Sorry for that. 
I understand now from your reactions that a dowsing rod is a piece of equipment only to search for water. That's not my intention though, as I would like to state the quality of our wellwater, after I added CS to it, so it can be drank safely. 
Here this kind of equipment is called a BIOTENSOR (or BIOSENSOR): a single, thin, metal rod with a handle that starts moving in specific ways by the influence of the person's subconscious after you have concentrated on a question.
Just this morning I have bought such an instrument, together with the necessary equipment to produce  my own CS. Next week an experienced Biotensor user will come and teach me the basics on how to use it and then I have to start experimenting myself: with the CS, added to the wellwater. Also to find out the right amounts of CS that are best used for us and for our animals and plants. And of course I will keep you up to date of my findings via the Silver-list.
  
Best regards,
Erna
  



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Re: CS>Taking CS by sublingual spray

[Ode Coyote]

 There isn't anything smaller than an ion..except maybe a different ion. A hydrogen ion would be the very smallest.  Even non ionic hydrogen will seep through steel.
That's right. Your brand new hydrogen fueled automobile will have to be re-fueled every month or so whether you drive it or not.
Actually, motor oil..a very big molecule...will eventually impregnate cast iron as a smaller molecule of gasoline will impregnate the steel in a gas tank.
Welding up a old gas tank is always an interesting proposition. ;-)

Ode

At 09:22 AM 3/17/2005 EST, you wrote: 

Is there any curative or health maintenance value in spraying CS under the tongue once, twice or even many times a day?  Are the silver ions actually small enough to penetrate the mucous membrane under the tongue?

Several years ago a company was marketing what it claimed was a solution containing human growth hormone which was to be administered by spraying in under the tongue.  Critics of the product said that the HGH molecule is too big to pass through the mucous membrane barrier in the mouth, so the product was worthless.  I've wondered if the silver ions are small enough to penetrate the barrier, assuming for the sake of argument that getting silver into the bloodstream in this fashion would be otherwise desirable.

Christy Barton
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Re: CS>Smell

[Stuff]

Mine says I have an "iron" smell coming out of my pores.

She may mean "metallic" so I'm assuming it's CS altho
it could be anything.

Strange.

stuff

At 08:55 AM 3/17/2005 -0500, you wrote:


My Wife says she can smell the CS coming out of my pores.
What can I take to counteract this.
Bob


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Re: CS>No more toothpaste

[William Missett]

For the record,  it's "fluoride," not flouride.
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
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  Subject: Re: CS>No more toothpaste


  no, none with flouride

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This is interessting...what kind of toothpaste were you using?  with 
flouride?

Sally

mborg...@att.net wrote:
  That was great information on teeth, a friend also suggusted that if i 
have a hypothyroid that I stop using toothpaste for the toothpaste was causing 
the problem, I quit using toothpaste hypothyroid condition is gone.

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> http://www.geocities.com/missionstmichael/Dental2.html 
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> sol 
> 
> 
> 
> Sharon Cooper wrote: 
> 
> > interesting, the hygenist just recommended to me that I get a 
flouride 
> > rinse for my tooth sensitivity. After she explained the mechanism 
by 
> > which sensitivity is normally stopped, I wondered how good would it 
be 
> > to have flouride in your mouth, hardened and blocking those pores? 
I 
> > think I'd rather have silver particles in there blocking the pores 
( 
> > assuming that is how it works ). She also told me that once your 
gums 
> > have started to recede they will not come back. Anyone have any 
good 
> > news on that front? 
> > 
>! ! ! > Sharon 
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