Re: CSPink eye

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I will second that.   Our results were nothing short of astounding.

JBB


On Thursday, Apr 14, 2005, at 19:00 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote:


Actually, Laurie, pink eye was one of the first things I tried CS on,
with convincing success. My (at the time) 8 yr. old daughter had it,
and a few drops before bedtime was all it took for her to be fine by
morning.

I was still using more primative production techniques back then, so
the results may differ one way or another from what you'll get, but I
don't expect you'll have much trouble.

Let us know, please?

Be well,

Mike D.



Hi all,
I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup 
rinse

it with  CS several times a day to get rid of it?
 Any body out there heard of or done this before?
Thanks,
Laurie


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Re: CSCataracts

[Raine]

Hiya Brickey,

It's so amazing to me; while searching via search engines for 
alternative methods of treating cataracts (specifically in dogs) I got 
absolutely nothing. When I began taking my plight to various alternative 
lists, I found there are treatments abound! And most are very simplistic.
If only there were enough hours in a day to create a website covering 
these methods, with scientific and anecdotal evidence, for the others 
that are searching...


My precious girl lost her other eye to glaucoma. I searched, begged and 
pleaded for an alternative option, but general consensus was that there 
isn't one, and we settled on eneucleation to eliminate the pain, and the 
need for drugs. Between her diagnosis of glaucoma, and the removal of 
the eye, the cataract in her *good* eye rendered her blind. She was 
pronounced a good candidate for cataract surgery (at age 12!), but at 
$1000 it simply isn't a possibility.


I so appreciate hearing these testimonies. They give me hope, and good 
ideas.


Thanks guys!
-Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog
http://www.dogster.com/?87580



brick...@aol.com wrote:

My dog was also one eyed, cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular 
linseed oil a gallon at Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint 
section and filled a 1 ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she 
got one drop in her eye for at least two months. Her eyelids became 
crusty and I just stopped treating her. I was astonished to see the 
cataract shrank to a pin point and after several more weeks totally 
was gone. After seeing this I also used linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in 
my eyes. DR said I had a bunch of small cataracts growing in both 
eyes. I had a yearly check up about 5 weeks later and DR said NO 
CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years ago the cataracts are coming back 
in my eyes, I now make my own CS so I use CS + 10% DMSO in my eye wash 
cup, cataracts are still there but not growing.
 
When I treated my dog I did not even refrigerate the linseed oil. I 
found that it goes rancid later so when I treated myself I kept the 
bottle refrigerated. I guess that our garage was cold enough when I 
treated my dog to act like a refrigerator.

Brickey

CSRe:RE: CSAlchoholism treatments?

[William Amos]

Hello all:
In some information I have, it states that Practitioners have used Colloidal 
Gold as a treatment for  dipsomania  which is the uncontrollable desire for 
alcohol.
Bill
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Linda wrote:

...but it turns out we have a family member who is now afflicted.  I'd like to 
find that info on the medical device...

It probably was one of the devices like the Brain Tuner. Not that I'm any 
expert about that, but I've seen enough rapid, simple, and wondrous healing in 
this house, and seen our medical bills shrink so much, that I know for sure the 
medical industry could be turned on it's ear very quickly (But it ain't 
happ'nin' anytime soon!).

Just last night I read about a simple-to-make-at-home fermented drink from 
grain sprouts, called Rejuvalac, that helped a badly alcohol dependent woman 
break her dependence. Maybe it will help your family member. Here are links:

http://www.noevalleyvoice.com/1998/June/rejuvelac.html

http://www.sproutpeople.com/seed/kit/rejuvelac.html

I learned this while trying to learn everything I can about Kefir (I LOVE IT!) 
and Kombucha
(still learning on that one). I'm on a chase these days for truly natural 
things we can easily do at home to get the nutrients we need, because I really 
do think our supplements will be strangled out of existence, then sold to us as 
medicine at gouge rates.

Daddybob


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Re: CSReflexology maps of the hands feet

[DebMark]

Hi Faith, I am very interested in your maps of hands and feet.  My brother 
(who they also said has neuropathy in his feet) is numb and in pain from the 
mid calf down.  Years ago he had a lyme vaccine (they have since stopped 
giving) they were giving out to Sewerage treatment plant workers.  I truly 
believe it is from this that he suffers the numbness.  It was enlightening 
to know the difference between neuropathy and parethesia.  Thanks.  Debbie 
DeLuise



I'd suggest you give it a try.
Do you know any (LICENSED!) Reflexologist in your area?
I did without license for fiteen years, first on myself and then on 
others, and had good results. Now, more advanced, and protected by my 
license I see miracle after miracle.

If your feet are too sensitive, you can have your hands treated.
I can send you scans of the maps of hand and feet, so that you'd know 
where to work, to get the lymph-flow going, and relieve the pains.

We work with five treatments initially, and that works well.
Love
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Re: CSReflexology maps of the hands feet

[Teri Johnston]

At 07:19 AM 4/15/2005, you wrote:

Hi Faith,

I too would be very interested in the maps of hands and feet.  There are 
not any local reflexologists and most are 90+ miles away in NYC.


Teri
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CSAlchoholism treatments?

[lindaellis]

This may be off-topic, but I figure y'all may be interested in other innovative 
therapies and can direct me properly.
 
A long time ago, I remember reading that some big rock star (I think he was one 
of Chicago, but can't be certain) attributed his recovery from drug addiction 
to some innovative medical device, and was very vocal about it.  Either he or 
someone else tried to approach some of those fancy rehab centers, but were 
rebuffed.  Finally, someone told him that they agreed the device probably 
worked, but they would never use it because it would put these rehab centers 
out of business.
 
Back then, drug and alchohol rehab wasn't a topic I had much interest in, but 
it turns out we have a family member who is now afflicted.  I'd like to find 
that info on the medical device, since the detox centers sure aren't working
 
Thanks
 
Linda

Re: CSCataracts

[Marvin Hacker]

Hi,

First, I send my thanks to Brickey for this idea.  I have a friend, a 
fellow member of our church who is in his 70's and had restricted vision due to 
cataracts.  He is a vet and the folks managing his case would not allow surgery 
because it wasn't that bad yet but it was sufficiently bad that he could only 
drive in daylight hours.

Due to your suggestion, I bought a bottle of flax seed oil and took it to 
him at his home a couple of years ago; asking him to put a drop in each eye 
every day.  He said that he had to do the treatment just prior to retiring in 
the evening because the flax seed oil caused his vision to become a bit blurry 
for a little while; but when he awoke his vision was as clear as before putting 
the flax seed oil into his eyes.  Within three months there was noticeable 
improvement.  Two years later, his cataracts (if there are any), are no longer 
a problem.

Speaking of looking for solutions to various health issues (someone 
mentioned this earlier), dear ones, I have found that searching the SilverList 
archives always presents good ideas.  Thank you Mike, and the folks who make 
them available!!

Best regards,
  :) Mar



  - Original Message - 
  From: Raine 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCataracts


  Hiya Brickey,

  It's so amazing to me; while searching via search engines for alternative 
methods of treating cataracts (specifically in dogs) I got absolutely nothing. 
When I began taking my plight to various alternative lists, I found there are 
treatments abound! And most are very simplistic. 
  If only there were enough hours in a day to create a website covering these 
methods, with scientific and anecdotal evidence, for the others that are 
searching... 

  My precious girl lost her other eye to glaucoma. I searched, begged and 
pleaded for an alternative option, but general consensus was that there isn't 
one, and we settled on eneucleation to eliminate the pain, and the need for 
drugs. Between her diagnosis of glaucoma, and the removal of the eye, the 
cataract in her *good* eye rendered her blind. She was pronounced a good 
candidate for cataract surgery (at age 12!), but at $1000 it simply isn't a 
possibility. 

  I so appreciate hearing these testimonies. They give me hope, and good ideas. 

  Thanks guys!
  -Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog
  http://www.dogster.com/?87580



  brick...@aol.com wrote: 
My dog was also one eyed, cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular 
linseed oil a gallon at Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint section and 
filled a 1 ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she got one drop in her 
eye for at least two months. Her eyelids became crusty and I just stopped 
treating her. I was astonished to see the cataract shrank to a pin point and 
after several more weeks totally was gone. After seeing this I also used 
linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in my eyes. DR said I had a bunch of small cataracts 
growing in both eyes. I had a yearly check up about 5 weeks later and DR said 
NO CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years ago the cataracts are coming back in my 
eyes, I now make my own CS so I use CS + 10% DMSO in my eye wash cup, cataracts 
are still there but not growing.

When I treated my dog I did not even refrigerate the linseed oil. I found 
that it goes rancid later so when I treated myself I kept the bottle 
refrigerated. I guess that our garage was cold enough when I treated my dog to 
act like a refrigerator.
Brickey

Re: CSAlchoholism treatments?

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Bob Beck claimed that his Brain Tuner is very effective in treating 
addictive disorders.It is available from SOTA instruments and from 
list member T. Chamberlain also, I believe.   The product is very 
modestly priced in comparison to rehab -- a few hundred dollars -- and 
may very well work as claimed.  Beck was also one of the main advocates 
of CS for many years.



On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 20:39 Asia/Tokyo, lindael...@aol.com wrote:

This may be off-topic, but I figure y'all may be interested in other 
innovative therapies and can direct me properly.

 
A long time ago, I remember reading that some big rock star (I think 
he was one of Chicago, but can't be certain) attributed his recovery 
from drug addiction to some innovative medical device, and was very 
vocal about it.  Either he or someone else tried to approach some of 
those fancy rehab centers, but were rebuffed.  Finally, someone told 
him that they agreed the device probably worked, but they would never 
use it because it would put these rehab centers out of business.

 
Back then, drug and alchohol rehab wasn't a topic I had much interest 
in, but it turns out we have a family member who is now afflicted.  
I'd like to find that info on the medical device, since the detox 
centers sure aren't working

 
Thanks
 
Linda

RE: CSAlchoholism treatments?

[ransley]

Linda wrote:

...but it turns out we have a family member who is now afflicted.  I'd like
to find that info on the medical device...

It probably was one of the devices like the Brain Tuner. Not that I'm any
expert about that, but I've seen enough rapid, simple, and wondrous healing
in this house, and seen our medical bills shrink so much, that I know for
sure the medical industry could be turned on it's ear very quickly (But it
ain't happ'nin' anytime soon!).

Just last night I read about a simple-to-make-at-home fermented drink from
grain sprouts, called Rejuvalac, that helped a badly alcohol dependent woman
break her dependence. Maybe it will help your family member. Here are links:

http://www.noevalleyvoice.com/1998/June/rejuvelac.html

http://www.sproutpeople.com/seed/kit/rejuvelac.html

I learned this while trying to learn everything I can about Kefir (I LOVE
IT!) and Kombucha
(still learning on that one). I'm on a chase these days for truly natural
things we can easily do at home to get the nutrients we need, because I
really do think our supplements will be strangled out of existence, then
sold to us as medicine at gouge rates.

Daddybob

Re: CSCataracts - Linseed oil is not Flax seed oil

[Grant]

Linseed oil from the hardware store is NOT the same thing as flax oil
from the Health Food Store.

Linseed oil is as I recall, POISON if eaten/ingested, while flax seed
oil can be healthfull if propery produced and stored.

The both come from flax, but the difference is how they are
manufactured. I believe linseed oil is boiled, and changed chemically
in that way.

Regards
Grant


brick...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
  My dear dog has a "ripe" cataract
and I'm desperately trying to find a way to regain her sight. Pl
  My dog was also one eyed,
cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular linseed oil a gallon at
Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint section and filled a 1
ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she got one drop in her eye
for at least two months. Her eyelids became crusty and I just stopped
treating her. I was astonished to see the cataract shrank to a pin
point and after several more weeks totally was gone. After seeing this
I also used linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in my eyes. DR said I had a
bunch of small cataracts growing in both eyes. I had a yearly check up
about 5 weeks later and DR said NO CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years
ago the cataracts are coming back in my eyes, I now make my own CS so I
use CS + 10% DMSO in my eye wash cup, cataracts are still there but not
growing.
  
  When I treated my dog I did not
even refrigerate the linseed oil. I found that it goes rancid laterso
when I treated myself I kept the bottle refrigerated. I guess that our
garage was cold enough when I treated my dog to act like a refrigerator.
  Brickey


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Re: CSRe CS:. Linseed/flaxseed oil

[M. G. Devour]

As Harold and Grant have both pointed out, linseed oil from the paint 
store is not safe to take internally. I've seen a report or two of 
people using it in the eye without apparent harm, but, to be safe, I'd 
strongly advise buying the edible, unprocessed Flax-Seed oil from the 
health food store. 

Barlean's is one of several good brands. Whichever you buy, it ought to 
be refrigerated before and after you buy it to extend shelf-life. I've 
seen flax seed oil at a local Trader Joe's sitting on the shelf, un-
refrigerated. That turned me off.

One other suggestion I remember reading was to allow the flax seed oil 
to sit for a while and to decant the lighter fraction that will rise to 
the top of the bottle into another container to use for eye drops. I 
think it was supposed to work better.

You are basically providing high quality lipids that gradually displace 
the deposits left by the unhealthy, processed oils that you've been 
eating in your diet. Which suggests replacing them in your diet might 
be a strategy to prevent the problem to begin with. sigh

 Linseed oil that is boiled is flax oil that has had Japan Dryers
 added to make it dry when used in the wood staining/painting/Art
 trades;and is poisonous.Why it is called boiled I can't remember now;so
 long ago. As a teen-ager I can remember the folks getting the un-boiled
 Linseed oil from the store to use internally. Harold

Be well,

Mike D.

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CSMoney, sweet as honey

[Faith Saint Francis]

Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
Zey know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if zey would 
admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them clients .. 
UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
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CSMoney, sweet as honey

[Faith Saint Francis]

Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
Zey know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if zey would 
admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them clients .. 
UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
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CSReflexology .. maps hands and feet

[Faith Saint Francis]

Teri wrote:
I too would be very interested in the maps of hands and feet.

Okay, I'll make a few scans, ready to send,
just send me your e-mail (to faithstfran...@interneeds.net please),
See, if I was able to teach myself so many years ago, then any of you can 
also find relief by self-treatment (although it is said that the interchange 
of energies in direct contact between you and your practitioner is very 
wholesome .. $$$ interest mebbe?).
And .. I teach free! Just don't tell Doc. .. He might wanna give me a wrong 
injection.

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Re: CSPink eye

[Laurie Bartlett]

Well it worked My eye is all cleared up. Now I think I want to try my 
hand at actually making CS. This is GREAT stuff. I have been a lurker but 
have learned allot from you all. so any suggestions on beginning this 
project? thanks all.


Laurie

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSPink eye



I will second that.   Our results were nothing short of astounding.

JBB


On Thursday, Apr 14, 2005, at 19:00 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote:


Actually, Laurie, pink eye was one of the first things I tried CS on,
with convincing success. My (at the time) 8 yr. old daughter had it,
and a few drops before bedtime was all it took for her to be fine by
morning.

I was still using more primative production techniques back then, so
the results may differ one way or another from what you'll get, but I
don't expect you'll have much trouble.

Let us know, please?

Be well,

Mike D.



Hi all,
I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup rinse
it with  CS several times a day to get rid of it?
 Any body out there heard of or done this before?
Thanks,
Laurie


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Re: CSCataracts

[Faith Saint Francis]

Wish I'd known this before ..
Faith


From: Marvin Hacker marv...@charter.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCataracts
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:55:47 -0500

Hi,

First, I send my thanks to Brickey for this idea.  I have a friend, a 
fellow member of our church who is in his 70's and had restricted vision 
due to cataracts.  He is a vet and the folks managing his case would not 
allow surgery because it wasn't that bad yet but it was sufficiently bad 
that he could only drive in daylight hours.


Due to your suggestion, I bought a bottle of flax seed oil and took it 
to him at his home a couple of years ago; asking him to put a drop in each 
eye every day.  He said that he had to do the treatment just prior to 
retiring in the evening because the flax seed oil caused his vision to 
become a bit blurry for a little while; but when he awoke his vision was as 
clear as before putting the flax seed oil into his eyes.  Within three 
months there was noticeable improvement.  Two years later, his cataracts 
(if there are any), are no longer a problem.


Speaking of looking for solutions to various health issues (someone 
mentioned this earlier), dear ones, I have found that searching the 
SilverList archives always presents good ideas.  Thank you Mike, and the 
folks who make them available!!


Best regards,
  :) Mar



  - Original Message -
  From: Raine
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCataracts


  Hiya Brickey,

  It's so amazing to me; while searching via search engines for 
alternative methods of treating cataracts (specifically in dogs) I got 
absolutely nothing. When I began taking my plight to various alternative 
lists, I found there are treatments abound! And most are very simplistic.
  If only there were enough hours in a day to create a website covering 
these methods, with scientific and anecdotal evidence, for the others that 
are searching...


  My precious girl lost her other eye to glaucoma. I searched, begged and 
pleaded for an alternative option, but general consensus was that there 
isn't one, and we settled on eneucleation to eliminate the pain, and the 
need for drugs. Between her diagnosis of glaucoma, and the removal of the 
eye, the cataract in her *good* eye rendered her blind. She was pronounced 
a good candidate for cataract surgery (at age 12!), but at $1000 it simply 
isn't a possibility.


  I so appreciate hearing these testimonies. They give me hope, and good 
ideas.


  Thanks guys!
  -Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog
  http://www.dogster.com/?87580



  brick...@aol.com wrote:
My dog was also one eyed, cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular 
linseed oil a gallon at Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint section 
and filled a 1 ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she got one drop 
in her eye for at least two months. Her eyelids became crusty and I just 
stopped treating her. I was astonished to see the cataract shrank to a pin 
point and after several more weeks totally was gone. After seeing this I 
also used linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in my eyes. DR said I had a bunch of 
small cataracts growing in both eyes. I had a yearly check up about 5 weeks 
later and DR said NO CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years ago the cataracts 
are coming back in my eyes, I now make my own CS so I use CS + 10% DMSO in 
my eye wash cup, cataracts are still there but not growing.


When I treated my dog I did not even refrigerate the linseed oil. I 
found that it goes rancid later so when I treated myself I kept the bottle 
refrigerated. I guess that our garage was cold enough when I treated my dog 
to act like a refrigerator.

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Re: CSPink eye

[Sally Khanna]

Did you put CS directly in your eye, and what strength?
 
Thanks,
Sally

Laurie Bartlett douglau...@comcast.net wrote:
Well it worked My eye is all cleared up. Now I think I want to try my 
hand at actually making CS. This is GREAT stuff. I have been a lurker but 
have learned allot from you all. so any suggestions on beginning this 
project? thanks all.

Laurie

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSPink eye


I will second that. Our results were nothing short of astounding.

 JBB


 On Thursday, Apr 14, 2005, at 19:00 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote:

 Actually, Laurie, pink eye was one of the first things I tried CS on,
 with convincing success. My (at the time) 8 yr. old daughter had it,
 and a few drops before bedtime was all it took for her to be fine by
 morning.

 I was still using more primative production techniques back then, so
 the results may differ one way or another from what you'll get, but I
 don't expect you'll have much trouble.

 Let us know, please?

 Be well,

 Mike D.


 Hi all,
 I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup rinse
 it with CS several times a day to get rid of it?
 Any body out there heard of or done this before?
 Thanks,
 Laurie

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Re: CSPink eye

[Laurie Bartlett]

Sally,

I used 10ppm and yes I dropped it right into my eye as often as i could think 
about it which was 3 to 4 times a day.

Laurie

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Khanna 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: CSPink eye


  Did you put CS directly in your eye, and what strength?

  Thanks,
  Sally

  Laurie Bartlett douglau...@comcast.net wrote:
Well it worked My eye is all cleared up. Now I think I want to try my 
hand at actually making CS. This is GREAT stuff. I have been a lurker but 
have learned allot from you all. so any suggestions on beginning this 
project? thanks all.

Laurie

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSPink eye


I will second that. Our results were nothing short of astounding.

 JBB


 On Thursday, Apr 14, 2005, at 19:00 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote:

 Actually, Laurie, pink eye was one of the first things I tried CS on,
 with convincing success. My (at the time) 8 yr. old daughter had it,
 and a few drops before bedtime was all it ! took for her to be fine by
 morning.

 I was still using more primative production techniques back then, so
 the results may differ one way or another from what you'll get, but I
 don't expect you'll have much trouble.

 Let us know, please?

 Be well,

 Mike D.


 Hi all,
 I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup rinse
 it with CS several times a day to get rid of it?
 Any body out there heard of or done this before?
 Thanks,
 Laurie

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Re: CSAlchoholism treatments?

[kallie miller]

Linda wroteBack then, drug and alcohol rehab wasn't a
topic I had much interest in, but it turns out we have a family member who
is now afflicted.  I'd like to find that info on the medical device, since
the detox centers sure aren't working


The device is now called a Brain Tuner and Sota Instruments sells one.
http://www.sotainstruments.com   The Brain Tuner did not work for me.

I would strongly suggest you purchase the book End Your Addiction Now by
Dr. Charles Gant through Amazon or I can sell you one.  I got help in
quitting smoking through the supplements Dr. Gant suggests.  I got them
through www.nutrenergy.com

You can also visit this link http://www.healthrecovery.com/

Both of these treatments are with supplements and they have a 85% success
rate.

Kallie Miller

www.4optimallife.com
Magnetic mattress pads, Water Ionizer/Alkalizers
Rebounders, Zappers, Mental Imagery Procedures, EFT


- Original Message - 
From: lindael...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: CSAlchoholism treatments?


 This may be off-topic, but I figure y'all may be interested in other
innovative therapies and can direct me properly.

 A long time ago, I remember reading that some big rock star (I think he
was one of Chicago, but can't be certain) attributed his recovery from drug
addiction to some innovative medical device, and was very vocal about it.
Either he or someone else tried to approach some of those fancy rehab
centers, but were rebuffed.  Finally, someone told him that they agreed the
device probably worked, but they would never use it because it would put
these rehab centers out of business.

 Back then, drug and alchohol rehab wasn't a topic I had much interest in,
but it turns out we have a family member who is now afflicted.  I'd like to
find that info on the medical device, since the detox centers sure aren't
working

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Re: CSAlchoholism treatments?

[Nenah Sylver]

- Original Message - 
From: lindael...@aol.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: CSAlchoholism treatments?


Back then, drug and alchohol rehab wasn't a topic I had much interest in, 
but it turns out we have a family member who is now afflicted.  I'd like 
to find that info on the medical device, since the detox centers sure 
aren't working


Linda,
In addition to the Beck brain tuner, you might want to consider sauna 
therapy.


In the course of doing research for my book on sauna therapy, I was amazed 
at how many toxins -- and how much of them -- are released through sweat. In 
fact, an entire program was developed using saunas and nutrition

to help drug addicts recover from their cravings.

Green chlorophyll drinks are also suggested -- anything to clean out the 
cellular debris and help restore organ and gland function.


Best,
Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD
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Re: CSPink eye

[Sally Khanna]

Laurie,
 
I will definitely save that one in my files.  Pink eye is such a messy thing 
and it spreads like fire when kids get it.
 
Sally

Laurie Bartlett douglau...@comcast.net wrote:
Sally,
 
I used 10ppm and yes I dropped it right into my eye as often as i could think 
about it which was 3 to 4 times a day.
 
Laurie
 
- Original Message - 
From: Sally Khanna 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSPink eye


Did you put CS directly in your eye, and what strength?
 
Thanks,
Sally

Laurie Bartlett douglau...@comcast.net wrote:
Well it worked My eye is all cleared up. Now I think I want to try my 
hand at actually making CS. This is GREAT stuff. I have been a lurker but 
have learned allot from you all. so any suggestions on beginning this 
project? thanks all.

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CSJudge Strikes Down FDA Ban on Ephedra.... (Ruling Threatens to Boost Durbin's Bill When its Reintroduced)

[Marshall Dudley]

IAHF Webmaster: Breaking News, Codex Emergency, USA and All Countries,
What to Do

IAHF List: I am quite happy to learn of the court's decision to unban
low dose ephedra. (see news story below- also note upcoming IAHF radio
shows below) It was absurd when ephedra (the herb ma huang) was banned,
especially given that it is far safer than ephedrine which is found in a
slew of OTC cold preparations and which really IS dangerous.

At the same time, however, this court ruling will help to push Durbin's
bill when it gets reintroduced sometime this spring under a new bill
number (was S.722) (Will let you know the moment its reintroduced under
a new # so you can help kill it.)

While this is great news that the court overturned the ban on ephedra, I
urge all Americans on the IAHF list to email the form letters from the
following 2 websites in an effort to kill CAFTA and the FTAA. FTAA
threatens to create a carbon copy of the EU Dictatorship in our
hemisphere, and this would be the main vehicle for ushering in Codex
harmonization. 

We have little leverage over the UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS from the world's
FDA's who will be delegates at the 28th General Session of Codex in Rome
in July, but we DO have leverage over state and federal officials and we
CAN kill CAFTA and the FTAA- we HAVE to or it won't just be our dietary
supplement laws that will be harmonized to international standards, it
will be ALL of our laws.

See http://www.stoptheftaa.org and also
http://www.citizen.org/trade/cafta/
Between both of these organizations, they cover the whole political
spectrum. Please send both of their form letters from their sites, and
also write your own HAND WRITTEN letter to your Senators because they
could hold a FAST TRACK vote on CAFTA in MAY. Please forward this alert
widely.

John Hammell of IAHF is doing a radio show on Saturday night (ERSKINE
OVERNIGHT 10-11 PM West Coast time will be archived, hear on the web at
http://www.gcnlive.com , and another on Monday night with Jackie Patru
(6-7 pm west coast time) http://www.sweetliberty.org 

Next week we'll be participating in a conference with other activists
concerned about Codex in DC.Your donations will help us get there and to
continue doing public speaking, organizing and lobbying on this
important issue. See below to donate.

STORY ON JUDGE LIFTING THE BAN ON EPHEDRA:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20050415/ts_nm/health_ephedra_dc_2
Court Says FDA Ephedra Ban Too Broad

26 minutes ago   Top Stories - Reuters 
 

By Susan Heavey 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Food and Drug Administration failed to prove
certain low dose ephedra supplements are unsafe, a U.S. court said in
a ruling announced on Thursday that could allow some types of the
controversial weight loss pill back on the market. 

   

The agency's decision to ban all ephedra dietary supplements --
regardless of dose -- until manufacturers could demonstrate a benefit
is contrary to the clear intent of Congress, the court said in its
decision issued on Wednesday. 


Nutraceutical International Corp., a leading supplier of dietary
supplements, which filed the suit challenging the agency's ban, posted
the ruling on its Web site on Thursday. 


The ruling comes one year after FDA officials banned the controversial
weight loss pill. It lifts the restriction on ephedra supplements with
10 milligrams or less of the active ingredient, but at least one doctor
said that even low doses of the pills could be abused. 


It was not clear if the FDA would challenge the ruling, but a
spokeswoman for the agency said it was reviewing the judge's decision. 


FDA officials have linked ephedra to death, heart attacks and strokes,
but manufacturers have said it is safe when used as directed and have
promoted it for shedding pounds, boosting energy and enhancing athletic
performance. 


The ruling clarified that the FDA ... cannot treat dietary supplements
like drugs or medical devices, Nutraceutical President Bruce Hough
said. 


Unlike prescription medicines, supplements do not have to be proven safe
before they can be sold. The government must show a supplement is too
risky to force it off the market. 


Judge Tena Campbell of the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah
ruled the FDA could not place the burden to prove safety on dietary
supplement manufacturers as it does for drug and device makers. 


Instead, the agency must establish that (ephedra supplements) pose a
significant or unreasonable risk by a preponderance of the evidence,
Campbell wrote. In the case of low dose versions of ephedra, the FDA
failed to meet that test, the judge said. 


UNREASONABLE RISK 


The ruling sparked renewed debate over the stimulant. 


A low dose is almost ridiculous in that the potential for using any
amount by taking multiple pills still remains, said Dr. Julian Bailes,
a former National Football League consultant and physician. 


Ephedra remains a very suspect and dangerous supplement, said Bailes,
now a neurosurgeon

Re: CSPink eye

[Marshall Dudley]

Absolutely, after putting it in the eyes, wipe down doorknobs,
refrigerator handles and anything else everyone touches with EIS as
well.  Don't forget to wipe the kids hands or wash them as well.
Reinfection is so easy.

Marshall

Sally Khanna wrote:

 Laurie, I will definitely save that one in my files.  Pink eye is such
 a messy thing and it spreads like fire when kids get it. Sally

 Laurie Bartlett douglau...@comcast.net wrote:

  Sally, I used 10ppm and yes I dropped it right into my eye
  as often as i could think about it which was 3 to 4 times a
  day. Laurie

   - Original Message -
   From: Sally Khanna
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:50 AM
   Subject: Re: CSPink eye
Did you put CS directly in your eye, and what
   strength? Thanks,Sally

   Laurie Bartlett douglau...@comcast.net wrote:

Well it worked My eye is all cleared
up. Now I think I want to try my
hand at actually making CS. This is
GREAT stuff. I have been a lurker but
have learned allot from you all. so any
suggestions on beginning this
project? thanks all.

Laurie





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CSRe CS:. Linseed/flaxseed oil

[Harold MacDonald]

Linseed oil that is boiled is flax oil that has had Japan Dryers added to 
make it dry when used in the wood staining/painting/Art trades;and is 
poisonous.Why it is called boiled I can't remember now;so long ago.
As a teen-ager I can remember the folks getting the un-boiled Linseed oil from 
the store to use internally.
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CSSubject: Re: CSReflexology maps of the hands feet

[patriot2000]

In addition to Reflexology, you may wish to investigate Anodyne Therapy, 
which is simply infra red therapy.  It may be helpful for your Lyme 
connected neuropathy, also.  It is non-invasive, painless, non-toxic, and 
certainly worth a try.  I consider it nothing short of a miracle, and 
Medicare covers it.  You need to find a rehab center that has it.  Most 
doctors don't even know about it.  Mine didn't, but I talked her into 
writing a referral for me, and Anodyne cured my chronic tendonitis in both 
wrists (neither chiropractic nor acupuncture touched it.).  No cortisone 
shots, no pain, just blessed relief.  Check these sites out as possible 
helps for Lyme related neuropathy.  They do get fantastic results with 
diabetic neuropathy.  My therapist said he recently treated a woman who had 
no feeling from toes to knees, and her doctors had given up.  Before long, 
she once again had feeling in her feet!


http://www.anodynetherapy.com/PDF%20Files/NeuropathicPain.pdf

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/annodyne/anodyne10_31_01.php

There are also Anodyne units for sale or rent.  (Bring lots of 
money.)  However, on the Internet, you can find generic units which sell 
for a tiny fraction of the cost of the patented article.  Even E-Bay 
features them.  I have friends who are reporting relief for numerous 
painful conditions using them, and if my problems flare up again, I will be 
there bidding on one to use right at home.


I hope you find some thing useful from this.  I have a nephew who is very 
ill and in the process of being diagnosed with Lyme.  His (idiot) doctor 
doesn't think he has it, but every single symptom he has was on the Lyme 
checklist from one of the Lyme sites I researched for him.  It is only a 
matter of time before they leave that close-minded psuedo-professional and 
pursue a specialist in Lyme Disease.  Of course, CS was the first thing I 
recommended to them and he is now buying his own CS unit!  If you can offer 
some other ideas in addition, that you found helpful for combatting 
Lyme,  they will be much appreciated.


Thanks in advance.Marlys



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Re: CSSubject: Re: CSReflexology maps of the hands feet

[Marshalee]

Tried infra red, it didn`t do anything at all. sigh...
I`ve also tried Neuro-Muscular Massage Therapy, another therapist used 
some sort of electromagnetic thing, strong enough to make a light bulb 
held nearby light up, and I tried
chiropractic foot adjustments, but nothing worked. Apparently the 
problem is in the brain,
according to an MRI, so therapies and reflexology can`t work, I guess. 
Lyme damage.

Marshalee
PS, I pressed on the reflex spots suggested, they are totally numb. 
Didn`t feel any difference after pressing them.


In addition to Reflexology, you may wish to investigate Anodyne 
Therapy, which is simply infra red therapy.  It may be helpful for 
your Lyme connected neuropathy, also.  It is non-invasive, painless, 
non-toxic, and certainly worth a try.  I consider it nothing short of 
a miracle, and Medicare covers it.  You need to find a rehab center 
that has it.  Most doctors don't even know about it.  Mine didn't, but 
I talked her into writing a referral for me, and Anodyne cured my 
chronic tendonitis in both wrists (neither chiropractic nor 
acupuncture touched it.).  No cortisone shots, no pain, just blessed 
relief.  Check these sites out as possible helps for Lyme related 
neuropathy.  They do get fantastic results with diabetic neuropathy.  
My therapist said he recently treated a woman who had no feeling from 
toes to knees, and her doctors had given up.  Before long, she once 
again had feeling in her feet!


http://www.anodynetherapy.com/PDF%20Files/NeuropathicPain.pdf

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/annodyne/anodyne10_31_01.php

There are also Anodyne units for sale or rent.  (Bring lots of 
money.)  However, on the Internet, you can find generic units which 
sell for a tiny fraction of the cost of the patented article.  Even 
E-Bay features them.  I have friends who are reporting relief for 
numerous painful conditions using them, and if my problems flare up 
again, I will be there bidding on one to use right at home.


I hope you find some thing useful from this.  I have a nephew who is 
very ill and in the process of being diagnosed with Lyme.  His (idiot) 
doctor doesn't think he has it, but every single symptom he has was on 
the Lyme checklist from one of the Lyme sites I researched for him.  
It is only a matter of time before they leave that close-minded 
psuedo-professional and pursue a specialist in Lyme Disease.  Of 
course, CS was the first thing I recommended to them and he is now 
buying his own CS unit!  If you can offer some other ideas in 
addition, that you found helpful for combatting Lyme,  they will be 
much appreciated.


Thanks in advance.Marlys



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CSAlcoholism

[Terry Chamberlin]

Linda said,
Back then, drug and alchohol rehab wasn't a topic I
had much interest in, but it turns out we have a
family member who is now afflicted. I'd like to find
that info on the medical device, since the detox
centers sure aren't working

As others have already mentioned, the device is the
Brain Tuner by Bob Beck. Yes, SOTA sells them. Yes, I
am an agent for SOTA, but cheaper than them. Contact
me for info.

Another very, very effective approach to combatting
addictions of every kind is EFT.

See: http://www.emofree.com/addiction.htm

I have had stunning success using EFT.

Terry Chamberlin




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Re: CSMoney, sweet as honey

[Raine]

Aint that the truth!
-Raine

Faith Saint Francis wrote:


Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
Zey know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if zey 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as 
sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

CSCayce debate...

[M. G. Devour]

As Ernie and others have noted, it's time for the debate over Cayce and 
the source of his alleged powers to be ended or migrate over to the OT 
list. As soon as we get into religion, it's time to stop! smile

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Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval

[sol]

Even charlatans are rarely wrong
about everything. Sleeping prophet? Don't think so. Sleeping Charlatan,
I'd buy that. 
I am unwilling to say that everything he espoused was wrong. As the old
saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
No insult intended, but I myself would agree or disagree with his
"advices" based solely on results, placing no confidence in any of them
simply because of the source. 
sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:
Can't agree with you. Thousands of people were healed by
Cayce's advices, and we have seen and experienced the results with The
Edgar Cayce's oil-pack treatments. It does not seem right to call the
Sleeping Prophet a charlatan.
  
  


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Re: CSCataracts

[sol]

Why eye surgeons wait until a
cataract is "ripe" before operating: even in these days eye surgery is
not without risk, a certain percentage of the surgeries will "fail" and
lead to complications or complete loss of sight. The percentage must
surely vary with the competence of the surgeon, but it is a safe bet
that not one single surgeon has a 100% success rate. Therefore it is
felt that it is best to wait until the sight in the cataract eye is
essentially nil before performing surgery. I know for a fact that this
was the reason for waiting 35 years ago when I worked for eye doctors,
and though there are now artificial lenses and a lot of improvements in
the surgery, it still is not without risk.
sol

Marvin Hacker wrote:

  
  
  
  Hi,
  
   I have a friend, a fellow member of our
church who is in his 70's and had restricted vision due to cataracts.
He is a vet and the folks managing his case would not allow surgery
because "it wasn't that bad yet" but it was sufficiently bad that he
could only drive in daylight hours.
  
   
  
  


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Re: CSMoney, sweet as honey

[G K Murray]

Hi all,

Why would this site say to drink 8-10 glasses of water a day?  I know 
people are supposed to drink at least 8 glasses of water every day any 
way.  But how does this pertain to colloidal silver?  What is a microna?


American Longevity's Majestic Earth Colloidal Silver is made with the 
highest quality ingredients available. This product has been laboratory 
tested confirming 50 parts per million of pure colloidal silver with an 
average particle size of .0001 Microna. Our Colloidal Silver contains 
De-ionized water and pure microna fine silver in suspension. When taking 
colloidal silver be sure to drink 8 - 10 glasses of water per day. 
Colloidal Silver is a popular dietary supplement and American Longevity 
is proud to now have available one of the best Colloidal Silver products 
on the market.

http://www.mich.com/~vit/colloidal_silver.html

G Murray

CSlimiting screen-peeping

[Faith Saint Francis]

Hello, my Friends,
For the optimal cure of my eyes (after THE operation)
I was advised to limit myself drastically where it concerns work at the 
computer:

For a few weeks, no more screen-peeping, for the benefit of my poor eyes.
So I greet you all, and in some five weeks I’ll be back.
Take care,
Love you all,
Faith

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[Faith Saint Francis]

Hello, my Friends,
For the optimal cure of my eyes (after THE operation)
I was advised to limit myself drastically where it concerns work at the 
computer:

For a few weeks, no more screen-peeping, for the benefit of my poor eyes.
So I greet you all, and in some five weeks I’ll be back.
Take care,
Love you all,
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Re: CSphantom pains and their removal

[Faith Saint Francis]

I C ..
done any research on Cayce's results? Or delve into communication with those 
who are familiar with his help to great numbers of -private- clients? 
Sleepin or unSleeping Prophet .. he did a lot of good.

Faith



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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:30:52 -0600

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Even charlatans are rarely wrong
about everything. Sleeping prophet? Don't think so. Sleeping Charlatan,
I'd buy that. 
I am unwilling to say that everything he espoused was wrong. As the old
saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
No insult intended, but I myself would agree or disagree with his
"advices" based solely on results, placing no confidence in any of them
simply because of the source. 
sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:
Can't agree with you. Thousands of people were healed by
Cayce's advices, and we have seen and experienced the results with The
Edgar Cayce's oil-pack treatments. It does not seem right to call the
Sleeping Prophet a charlatan.
  
  

Re: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured

[kallie miller]

You might be interested in this product for cataracts
http://www.antiaging-systems.com/a2z/carnosine.htm#carnosineeyedrops

Kallie Miller

- Original Message - 
From: marmar...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured


 In a message dated 4/14/2005 3:23:44 AM Central Standard Time,
 zon...@expo-net.org writes:
 Miracle 11 neutralizer
 What is this product?  Where does one get it?  Does it sting the eye?  My
 Mom's dog is blinded by cataracts -- also, my sister's.  I would LOVE to
know
 about something that will help. MA



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CSRE: reflexology maps

[Faith Saint Francis]

Reflexology will help ..
Working on the maps ..
Mind the saying of our mentor: primero Papito Dios
  segundo el cliente
  despues el doctor
  or:
  first, Father God
  second the client
  and then the doctor
I have separarated your message, and I shall send you the maps for self 
treatment in a matter of days.

Love Faith


From: G  K Murray kg...@sasktel.net
To: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com
Subject: reflexology maps
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:19:48 -0600



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Hi faith,

Could you send me the maps. I am very interested in learning about the
movement of lymph as well. I am the one with spleen enlargement, no
gallbladder and sharp pains in my feet as well. The spleen has been
said to not be diseased but likely enlarged due to infection. But as
long as I can remember the ball under my left rib has always been there.

G Murray


I'd suggest you give it a try.

Do you know any (LICENSED!) Reflexologist in your area?

I did without license for fiteen years, first on myself and then on
others, and had good results. Now, more advanced, and protected by my
license I see miracle after miracle.

If your feet are too sensitive, you can have your hands treated.

I can send you scans of the "maps" of hand and feet, so that you'd know
where to work, to get the lymph-flow going, and relieve the pains.

We work with five treatments initially, and that works well.

Love

Faith






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CSlimiting screen-peeping

[Faith Saint Francis]

Hello, my Friends,
For the optimal cure of my eyes (after THE operation)
I was advised to limit myself drastically where it concerns work at the 
computer: For a few weeks, no more screen-peeping, for the benefit of my 
poor eyes.

So I greet you all, and in some five weeks I’ll be back.
Take care,
Love you all,
Faith

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RE: CSReflexology .. maps hands and feet

[Faith Saint Francis]

Thank you Mr. Harris
See before sent message about Papito Dios
Of course I'll send you the list, in an extension of help to your Dear Wife
have therefore separated your message, and shall send in a few days.
Let's keep in touch
Faith


From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
To: faithstfran...@hotmail.com
CC: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
Subject: RE: CSReflexology .. maps hands and feet
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:36:05 -0400

Hi Faith,
Thank you for your helpful inspirational ideas and information that you 
have

been sharing with us seekers! Please read my Site  Blogspot for 3 Free
pages of CS Uses and 2 page of my Favorites to which I refer often.

I would appreciate your offered Reflexology .. maps hands  feet. This
interesting info can probably give my beautiful 82 year old wife of 58 
years

relief from her painful Sciatica.

Thank You and please let me know if I can be of help.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com

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From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:faithstfran...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSReflexology .. maps hands and feet


Teri wrote:
I too would be very interested in the maps of hands and feet.

Okay, I'll make a few scans, ready to send,
just send me your e-mail (to faithstfran...@interneeds.net please),
See, if I was able to teach myself so many years ago, then any of you can
also find relief by self-treatment (although it is said that the 
interchange

of energies in direct contact between you and your practitioner is very
wholesome .. $$$ interest mebbe?).
And .. I teach free! Just don't tell Doc. .. He might wanna give me a wrong
injection.
Love,
Faith




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Re: CSphantom pains and their removal

[Marshalee]

Ladies,
Cayce got his knowledge while in a trance. Anything can happen when in 
a trance.
He was also given reincarnation, which IMHO is a lie. Cayce was a 
Christian, and didn`t want to believe it either! You can`t believe in 
both reincarnation and the resurrection, the former negates the need for 
a savior. I believe in Christ, and  I believe that Satan will tell a 
thousand truths in order to slip by one little lie, which makes it all a 
lie (the one rotten apple in a barrel situation).
When I came to that conclusion many years ago, I dumped Cayce and 
reincarnation,

and returned to Christ. Much happier now.
Therefore I don`t trust anything Cayce said, knowing its source.
I DO trust in Colloidal Silver, as it was given to me as the direct 
answer to a prayer for help

with my Lyme Disease! It works.
Nuff said, Mike...
Marshalee


I C ..
done any research on Cayce's results? Or delve into communication with 
those who are familiar with his help to great numbers of -private- 
clients? Sleepin or unSleeping Prophet .. he did a lot of good.

Faith






Even charlatans are rarely wrong about everything. Sleeping prophet? 
Don't think so. Sleeping Charlatan, I'd buy that.
I am unwilling to say that everything he espoused was wrong. As the 
old saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
No insult intended, but I myself would agree or disagree with his 
advices based solely on results, placing no confidence in any of 
them simply because of the source.

sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:

Can't agree with you. Thousands of people were healed by Cayce's 
advices, and we have seen and experienced the results with The Edgar 
Cayce's oil-pack treatments. It does not seem right to call the 
Sleeping Prophet a charlatan.





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CSplease excuse

[Faith Saint Francis]

I am not a see-myself-budflower of narcistic arrogance!
Please excuse three (III, drei, tres, trois, drie) messages from this 
nervous same receptacle!

Love you all
Love to serve,
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CSThank you!

[Faith Saint Francis]

Thanks, Kallie!
Faith

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Re: CSphantom pains and their removal subject closed for my part

[Faith Saint Francis]

My last message in this matter:
Please be WELL INFORMED before reacting.
I am only interested in whatever may HELP
and shall NOT loose myself in harsh criticism of any kind, or any 
in-neccessary soliloqy

Close subjuct from this source.
Faith


From: Marshalee mama...@netzero.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSphantom pains and their removal
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:29:21 -0600

Ladies,
Cayce got his knowledge while in a trance. Anything can happen when in a 
trance.
He was also given reincarnation, which IMHO is a lie. Cayce was a 
Christian, and didn`t want to believe it either! You can`t believe in both 
reincarnation and the resurrection, the former negates the need for a 
savior. I believe in Christ, and  I believe that Satan will tell a thousand 
truths in order to slip by one little lie, which makes it all a lie (the 
one rotten apple in a barrel situation).
When I came to that conclusion many years ago, I dumped Cayce and 
reincarnation,

and returned to Christ. Much happier now.
Therefore I don`t trust anything Cayce said, knowing its source.
I DO trust in Colloidal Silver, as it was given to me as the direct answer 
to a prayer for help

with my Lyme Disease! It works.
Nuff said, Mike...
Marshalee


I C ..
done any research on Cayce's results? Or delve into communication with 
those who are familiar with his help to great numbers of -private- 
clients? Sleepin or unSleeping Prophet .. he did a lot of good.

Faith






Even charlatans are rarely wrong about everything. Sleeping prophet? Don't 
think so. Sleeping Charlatan, I'd buy that.
I am unwilling to say that everything he espoused was wrong. As the old 
saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
No insult intended, but I myself would agree or disagree with his 
advices based solely on results, placing no confidence in any of them 
simply because of the source.

sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:

Can't agree with you. Thousands of people were healed by Cayce's advices, 
and we have seen and experienced the results with The Edgar Cayce's 
oil-pack treatments. It does not seem right to call the Sleeping Prophet 
a charlatan.





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CSAlcoholism

[Pavel Hochmut]

Linda said,
Back then, drug and alchohol rehab wasn't a topic I
had much interest in, but it turns out we have a
family member who is now afflicted. I'd like to find
that info on the medical device, since the detox
centers sure aren't working

Quietly new ways are available now for the detox cure. Look at: www.ibogaine.org
Look for ibogaine keyword to search in Google. You may have many findings. 
Pavel


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Re: CSCataracts

[Sandee George]

Which oils did you use Christine?
Sandee

The one who accomplished it is the one
who failed to realize that he could not do it.


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Re: CSphantom pains and their removal subject closed for my part

[epatai]

I think all this discussion about Edgar Cayce should be in the off topic 
list I humbly have to say that Mike has been rather patient enough to let 
this slide this long.. *smile*


Ernie


From: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSphantom pains and their removal subject closed for my part
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:43:35 -0400

My last message in this matter:
Please be WELL INFORMED before reacting.
I am only interested in whatever may HELP
and shall NOT loose myself in harsh criticism of any kind, or any 
in-neccessary soliloqy

Close subjuct from this source.
Faith


From: Marshalee mama...@netzero.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSphantom pains and their removal
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:29:21 -0600

Ladies,
Cayce got his knowledge while in a trance. Anything can happen when in a 
trance.
He was also given reincarnation, which IMHO is a lie. Cayce was a 
Christian, and didn`t want to believe it either! You can`t believe in both 
reincarnation and the resurrection, the former negates the need for a 
savior. I believe in Christ, and  I believe that Satan will tell a 
thousand truths in order to slip by one little lie, which makes it all a 
lie (the one rotten apple in a barrel situation).
When I came to that conclusion many years ago, I dumped Cayce and 
reincarnation,

and returned to Christ. Much happier now.
Therefore I don`t trust anything Cayce said, knowing its source.
I DO trust in Colloidal Silver, as it was given to me as the direct answer 
to a prayer for help

with my Lyme Disease! It works.
Nuff said, Mike...
Marshalee


I C ..
done any research on Cayce's results? Or delve into communication with 
those who are familiar with his help to great numbers of -private- 
clients? Sleepin or unSleeping Prophet .. he did a lot of good.

Faith






Even charlatans are rarely wrong about everything. Sleeping prophet? 
Don't think so. Sleeping Charlatan, I'd buy that.
I am unwilling to say that everything he espoused was wrong. As the old 
saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
No insult intended, but I myself would agree or disagree with his 
advices based solely on results, placing no confidence in any of them 
simply because of the source.

sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:

Can't agree with you. Thousands of people were healed by Cayce's 
advices, and we have seen and experienced the results with The Edgar 
Cayce's oil-pack treatments. It does not seem right to call the Sleeping 
Prophet a charlatan.





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Re: CSCataracts

[Christine Carleton]

Some essential oils seem to be effective dissolving cataracts.
Sure helped my macular degeneration.  CC


From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:42:32 -0600
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCataracts
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:43:11 -0700


Why eye surgeons wait until a cataract is ripe before operating: even in
these days eye surgery is not without risk, a certain percentage of the
surgeries will fail and lead to complications or complete loss of sight.
The percentage must surely vary with the competence of the surgeon, but it
is a safe bet that not one single surgeon has a 100% success rate. Therefore
it is felt that it is best to wait until the sight in the cataract eye is
essentially nil before performing surgery. I know for a fact that this was
the reason for waiting 35 years ago when I worked for eye doctors, and
though there are now artificial lenses and a lot of improvements in the
surgery, it still is not without risk.
sol

Marvin Hacker wrote:
Hi,

 I have a friend, a fellow member of our church who is in his 70's and had
restricted vision due to cataracts. He is a vet and the folks managing his
case would not allow surgery because it wasn't that bad yet but it was
sufficiently bad that he could only drive in daylight hours.

 


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Re: CSCataracts

[kallie miller]

- Original Message - 
From: Christine Carleton Subject: Re: CSCataracts


 Some essential oils seem to be effective dissolving cataracts.
 Sure helped my macular degeneration.  CC

Christine
Would you please share with us what essential oils you used and what kind of
macular degeneration you had?

Thank you

Kallie Miller

www.4optimallife.com
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Re: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured

[sarongsong]

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Re: CSlimiting screen-peeping

[Faith Saint Francis]

They say: Not even reading (books, articles) Arrchchch indeed.
But now that I am committed to the interest of those who wrote to me about 
Reflexology,
I shall be answering all who wrote, either to the SilverList here or to my 
private addy, so to be able to share this enigmatic cure, that Reflexology 
increasingly is to me and all those whm I have treated.

I am working on the charts, shall have them scanned and ready for your use.
Love to serve,
Love you all,
Faith


From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: faithstfran...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: CSlimiting screen-peeping
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:04:43 -0600

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Best of luck to you. When you come
back give us a full report on how you are doing. Do you have to limit
reading books too? 
That would be the worst for me. Hard to stay off the computer, but no
booksarrghhh! What about TV? Gotta limit that too?

sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:
Hello, my Friends,
  
For the optimal cure of my eyes (after THE operation)
  
I was advised to limit myself drastically where it concerns work at the
computer: For a few weeks, no more screen-peeping, for the benefit of
my poor eyes.
  
So I greet you all, and in some five weeks Ill be back.
  
Take care,
  
Love you all,
  
Faith
  
  
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Re: CSMoney, sweet as honey

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I read today that a former US senator, Billy Tauzin, (R-La.),  recently 
retired from Congress.  In addition to his 85 thousand dollar annual 
retirement package,  he now gets close to two million dollars per year 
as head of a pharmaceutical association.  In Congress he was -- big 
surprise -- on the committee that regulates pharmaceuticals.


The corruption of American politics is literally deadly, as many list 
members know well.


Send Billy a letter to congratulate him on pulling himself up by his 
bootstraps, from the poverty of Congress to the real money of private 
enterprise.












On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote:


Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
Zey know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if zey 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as 
sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

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Re: CSRE: cataracts

[mborgert]

Have not heard from  you but I am very interested.
Thank you
Mary

-- Original message from Christine Carleton 
essential-liv...@telus.net: -- 


 I've used essential oils to assist with a number of vision challenges 
 including double  triple vision, black spots in front of the eyeballs, etc. 
 Cataracts appear to respond also. Contact me off line if you want to know 
 more. My ophthalmologist could not grind corrective lenses because as Post 
 Polio individual, distortion in my eye muscles left the pitch - at 4:00 and 
 8:00 o'clock respectively. I was working at 18pt, with double and triple 
 vision. Also had those pesky, nasty black spots in front of my eyeballs. 
 Now I work at 10-11 pt in single vision with no correction  no black spots. 
 I limit my dairy to cream in coffee and partake in cheeses. CC 
 
 
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  Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:37:42 -0400 
  To: The Silverlist , 
  sol 
  Subject: CSRE: cataracts 
 
 
 
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