Re: CSDE CS for teeth

[Marshall Dudley]

ransley wrote:

 Food grade DE and a mouthful of CS are really good for cleaning the teeth
 about once in two weeks. I wouldn't do it any more often than that. DB

Do you brush with it, or just swirl it around and spit it out?

Marshall



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Re: CSvitamin c

[cking001]

On 1/7/2006 5:22:20 AM, ekowal...@aol.com wrote:
 Um, yes actually it is rampant amongst the elderly. Check out the research
 bud.[Image]
 
 p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?

I'm past the endurance/competitive thing. I'll go whenever I go, and
grateful for the time that I've had.

Besides, you'll have to show me at least one 120 year old without
wrinkles and white hair attributed to copper/zinc sufficiency to peak
MY interest.
Your statement
 Pauling clearly had a  
copper deficiency at death. The white hair and the wrinkles are clear  
indications. 
referring to a man in his nineties is ludicrous.
Sorry, but it is...

Chuck
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Re: CSFleas and littler fleas

[Deborah Gerard]

Now that thar is interesting :)

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:  Great fleas have little fleas
Upon their backs to bite 'em
Little fleas have littler fleas
And so ad infinitum ?

This reminds me of an article I was reading some time
back about how scientists had discovered that termites
couldn't digest the wood they ate, but had tiny
microbes in their stomachs that actually digested the
wood for them. Later they discovered that these tiny
microbes didn't digest the wood, but had even tinier
microbes inside them that actually digested the wood!

http://occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/tfc/medialib/Applications/termites.html






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Re: CSParasite Cleanse

[Deborah Gerard]

Pat excuse me but where is the attitude coming from dearie don't put words in 
my mouth I said nothing about not believing you it was a sincere question which 
I will note not to ask any of you again...debbie

Bill Keen bkee...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Debby,
   
  Read up on it.  If you don't believe what we say then why ask?  Look back at 
yesterday's postings from me and read them, please.
   
  Pat,
   
  Check out the salt/vitamin C purge at:  http://www.lymephotos.com  It's about 
half-way down the front page.
   
  Don't look at the photos unless you have a good medical background.
   
  Bill Keen

Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
how small of a parasite would this be affective on and isn't there any 
danger of tearing the lining of the stomach or inestines? thanks debbie

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't mind mites and small bugs, 
just can't stand wormy things  hehehe   I was thinking...the diatomaceous earth 
sounds wonderful and very useful, but to rid the body of parasites that might 
not be in the intestines, you'd have to use the herbal combo wouldn't you?

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Re: CSvitamin c

[Deborah Gerard]

You got that s totally right my deardeb

Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote:   
Gad I hope I DON`T live that long. 
  After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world 
stinks.
  And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other side.
  I`m ready to go now, at 53.
  Marshalee
   
  p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?

Re: CSParasite Cleanse - Marshall

[Bill Keen]

Marshall,
   
  Here is the URL that V sent which is posted below your post:
   
  http://store.yahoo.com/herbal-remedies-usa/diead6oz.html 
  
  That site charges $6.95 for 6 oz of DE Food Grade + SH which is somewhere 
around $1.50/oz.
   
  THAT is where I got the price.
   
  Bill Keen

Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
  Bill Keen wrote:   Thanks V, That's what I paid for the 8 lb bag at the feed 
store.  I haven't seen any evidence of anything wrong after using the fs source 
so I'll continue using it 
Why do you think there would be anything wrong with it?  They would be 
selling food grade, not the swimming pool stuff. 
I don't mind giving some away for flea powder to my neighbors that way and 
it certainly hasn't hurt my dogs and cats.  THis is the first that I've even 
heard of food grade DE. One of the reference sites says that if you have eaten 
anything made with wheat flour you have eaten DE.  Apparently because it is 
used an an insecticide in the grain storage facilities.  At $1.50/oz I 
seriously doubt that they are using food grade for a silo of grain.   Where did 
you get that absurd price?  Food grade DE sells for about $2.50 a pound, not 
$1.50 and ounce. 
http://www.gardenharvestsupply.com/de_permaguard.aspx so adding about .1% of 
that to a pound of flour would only cost about .2 cents.   Marshall 
  
  I'm going to have to read a lot more to find out just when/where/why the DE 
is heated and how much. 
  
  Thanks, Bill Keen   V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:   Hi Bill,   I got food grade 
DE here at this site.   
http://store.yahoo.com/herbal-remedies-usa/diead6oz.html 
  
  
 
  

Re: CSvitamin c

[V]

Hi Marshalee,

you must have a rough life I wolud like to live hundreds of years or more. 
Seems I am jsut gettnig started and learning what I like and dont like so now 
its time to start living, Im at 52 loL, Im still learnig but it seems the first 
half of centurey was jsut an education for me, now to apply it in the second 
half of the century and beyond. All you got to do is survive another 20 years 
and they may solve the death problem. Man was designed to live about 150 years 
as he is right now. the reason peopel die sooner and suffer is due to ignorance 
of how to take care of them seleves mentally , emationally and phyiscaly




Take care,
 V


   Gad I hope I DON`T live that long. 
   After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world 
 stinks.
   And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other 
 side.
   I`m ready to go now, at 53.
   Marshalee

   p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?


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Re: CSNew member..

[Nancy DeLise]

I must disagree with you.cancer is a virusCS will kill the virus.
Also, try getting his body alkaline as possible.
Alternative cancer cure  talks about having alkaline body:
 http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_how_started.html

 Make your body alkaline:

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm

 The plums are considered a condiment for seasoning foods such as brown
rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of  ketchup, or mustard,
hot sauce in its stead.  Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a
plum to a whole.  They are not usually eaten alone.
Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, and
riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to digestion,
stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and enhancing
the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract.  If a
persons digestive system is sensitive or compromised just one plum eaten
alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an entire
day.
Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where ume
is usually

translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It has
several organic acids

with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of
alkalizing the body.

1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration in
any fruit) of citric

acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline minerals
from other foods that

would otherwise not be absorbed.

2. Umeboshi itself contains high amounts of alkaline minerals (iron,
calcium, potassium,

manganese, etc.)

3. Citric acid breaks down lactic acid produced metabolically in our blood
and tissues.

4. Umeboshi contains picric acid that stimulates and supports the
detoxifying action of the

liver.

5. Umeboshi contains catechin acid which speeds peristaltic action in the
intestines as

well as the digestion of proteins.

6. Umeboshi peel contains pectic acid which has a laxative effect.

This information comes from the Kushi Institute.

http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp;jsessionid=F2C001CBD9983C96925ED2800DB80ECD?nxtg=26450a1c050e-60BDABF18D0D369Fsearch=umeboshi+plum
$12.88 for 7 oz.

http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html  $49.  2.2lb tub

http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50  2.2lb tub

- Original Message - 
From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSNew member..



 Dear Frank,
   Sorry, but I don`t think CS can cure cancer. It sure is good at stopping
 colds
 and flu, and other bacterial infections, though. (Worked for me against
Lyme
 Disease.)
 I make my own and take 1/3 cup daily  as a preventive or up
 to a full cup if I feel something coming on.
 A teaspoonful of storebought stuff won`t do much, IMHO.
 Marshalee
 PS, I hope this helps:
 my son Cody died at 15 and was allowed choose to stay there or to come
back.
 He came back.
 He is now 28, married and father of two.
 He says words can`t begin to describe how beautiful it is up there.
Death
 is not a thing to fear, it is merely a doorway back Home from whence we
all
 came.




  ok, i got some CS. 10ppm silver hydrosol, label says 6
  droppers(1 teaspoon) daily for 154lb adult, he has
  cancer and cannot even speak sometimes, clerk at the
  store said i should double the dose for a while... yes
  or no?
 
  --- Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   Hello. My father has cancer and it is taking my mom
   and I both to take care of him as he cannot get out
   of
   bed.  I am looking for an immediate cure. I just
   joined and I'm in Dallas. I know health stores carry
   this but I have not looked into the cost yet. Anyim
 
 
 
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CSRe: Structured Water

[Jim Holmes]

http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27929

Re: CSvitamin c

[Marshalee Hallett]

  Thanks!
  Yah know, Deb, I so wonder why some people WANT to believe in reincarnation. 
  Once around is plenty for me...
  (Unless I could be sure of coming back as a Pug puppy!!!  :o)

  Marshalee (owned and well-trained by Lacy and Barby, Pugs both. )


  You got that s totally right my deardeb



  Gad I hope I DON`T live that long. 
  After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world 
stinks.
  And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other 
side.
  I`m ready to go now, at 53.
  Marshalee

  p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?

Re: CSNew member..

[Bill Keen]

  Frank,
   
  Check out:  www.glycoresource.com
   
  On the left side is a list of diseases and cancer is in the middle of the 
page.
  
You can contact the company at www.Mannatech.com for more help or call:  Bob 
Johnston @  817-800-3142 who may be able to help even more.  This company is in 
Coppell.
   
  Bill Keen
  
Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hello. My father has cancer and it is taking my mom
and I both to take care of him as he cannot get out of
bed. I am looking for an immediate cure. I just
joined and I'm in Dallas. I know health stores carry
this but I have not looked into the cost yet. Any recommendations?

Re: CSvitamin c

[alltogethernow]

Let the stirring of the pot begin...
 http://www.vet-task-force.com/wallach.htm


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Re: CSvitamin c

[Marmar845]

In a message dated 1/6/2006 11:08:27 PM Central Standard Time, 
utahpug...@izikoo.com writes:
It is much better on the other side.
I`m ready to go now, at 53.
I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee -- but 53 
is awful early to leave the party!  I hope that 2006 is a better year for you 
than you've obviously been having.MA

Re: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

[Paula Perry]

I just wanted to say that all Cancers are not caused by virus. Certain
Cancers, such as Lymphomas are caused by Virus. I did a lot of reading on
this because my husband had Hodgkin's Lymphoma. (Cancer of lymph) One of the
most widespread tumor formers is a very active virus called papilloma. It is
the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital wars, and
dysplasia. Endometriosis can be a papilloma virus, It can form brain and
anal tumors. There are several different Virus's that can form tumors.

Then, there are the Cancer Tumors that are caused by fungus. The hard tumor
is the fungus tumor. Prostrate Cancer is fungal.

I am not an expert on all this, but to fight Cancer it helps to know what is
causing the Cancer to form. I got this info in a book by Hanna Kroeger. She
has a test in there that you can do yourself to determine whether you have
the fungal Cancer of not. She says it will indicate Cancer, two years before
it is detectable to conventional tests. Instructions for anyone wanting to
try it as follows,-
 Take the first morning urine in a celluloid cup. (not foam cup) Cover it
with one layer of toilet paper and place in a dark place. In the evening
place it in refrigerator on the lowest shelf. The next morning pour out the
urine. Where air and urine touched, there will be a fatty waxy ring in the
cup if fungus cancer is present in your system.

According to most people in the natural field,-everyone with Cancer has
parasites.
Paula

- Original Message - 
From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew member..


 I must disagree with you.cancer is a virusCS will kill the virus.
 Also, try getting his body alkaline as possible.
 Alternative cancer cure  talks about having alkaline body:
  http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_how_started.html

  Make your body alkaline:

 http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm

  The plums are considered a condiment for seasoning foods such as brown
 rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of  ketchup, or
mustard,
 hot sauce in its stead.  Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a
 plum to a whole.  They are not usually eaten alone.
 Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, and
 riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to digestion,
 stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and enhancing
 the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract.  If a
 persons digestive system is sensitive or compromised just one plum eaten
 alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an entire
 day.
 Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where
ume
 is usually

 translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It
has
 several organic acids

 with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of
 alkalizing the body.

 1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration in
 any fruit) of citric

 acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline minerals
 from other foods that

 would otherwise not be absorbed.

 2. Umeboshi itself contains high amounts of alkaline minerals (iron,
 calcium, potassium,

 manganese, etc.)

 3. Citric acid breaks down lactic acid produced metabolically in our blood
 and tissues.

 4. Umeboshi contains picric acid that stimulates and supports the
 detoxifying action of the

 liver.

 5. Umeboshi contains catechin acid which speeds peristaltic action in the
 intestines as

 well as the digestion of proteins.

 6. Umeboshi peel contains pectic acid which has a laxative effect.

 This information comes from the Kushi Institute.


http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp;jsessionid=F2C001CBD9983C96925ED2800DB80ECD?nxtg=26450a1c050e-60BDABF18D0D369Fsearch=umeboshi+plum
 $12.88 for 7 oz.

 http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html  $49.  2.2lb tub

 http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50  2.2lb tub

 - Original Message - 
 From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:40 PM
 Subject: Re: CSNew member..


 
  Dear Frank,
Sorry, but I don`t think CS can cure cancer. It sure is good at
stopping
  colds
  and flu, and other bacterial infections, though. (Worked for me against
 Lyme
  Disease.)
  I make my own and take 1/3 cup daily  as a preventive or up
  to a full cup if I feel something coming on.
  A teaspoonful of storebought stuff won`t do much, IMHO.
  Marshalee
  PS, I hope this helps:
  my son Cody died at 15 and was allowed choose to stay there or to come
 back.
  He came back.
  He is now 28, married and father of two.
  He says words can`t begin to describe how beautiful it is up there.
 Death
  is not a thing to fear, it is merely a doorway back Home from whence we
 all
  came.
 
 
 
 
   ok, i got some 

Re: CSNew member..

[Ode Coyote]

  Assuming it's ASAP or similar..one to two quarts a day would be more 
like it.
 The cost will make that prohibitive, but you can make the exact same 
thing at home for 25 cents a quart...or much less if you have a water 
distiller.


CS didn't save my GFs step dad who had throat cancer.
 Other people had success if reading testimonials is any gauge.
 Could work, might not.
 But there's no reason to go broke trying when there are alternatives.

Ode

At 12:51 PM 1/6/2006 -0800, you wrote:


ok, i got some CS. 10ppm silver hydrosol, label says 6
droppers(1 teaspoon) daily for 154lb adult, he has
cancer and cannot even speak sometimes, clerk at the
store said i should double the dose for a while... yes
or no?

--- Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello. My father has cancer and it is taking my mom
 and I both to take care of him as he cannot get out
 of
 bed.  I am looking for an immediate cure. I just
 joined and I'm in Dallas. I know health stores carry
 this but I have not looked into the cost yet. Anyim



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RE: CSAdding bicarb of soda to water for brewing

[Ode Coyote]

  After reading what Bruce marks says about buffering with baking soda, I 
decided to try it.
 I  dipped a toothpick tip into baking soda to get as little as possible 
on it..a clump about the size of 3 or 4 grains of table salt..and swished 
that into a pint of distiller water.
 I don't remember the exact numbers, but conductivity went way higher than 
what I wanted, so I diluted the water down to around 10 uS
 I ran a Silverpuppy generator [constant current at 1 ma] on manual till 
conductivity when to 30 uS, replicating the average gain on automatic.
 It looked like all was going well.  Nice and clear, colorless...hummm, 
OK, nice stuff.


An hour later the whole thing went dense milky white.
 Several hours later, the milkiness was diminishing as a white precipitate 
formed and dropped out settling onto the bottom and some gas bubbles formed 
on the sides of the jar.

 It never completely cleared.

Was that silver carbonate?
 Looking around..silver carbonate is light sensitive, has a low 
solubility, dissolves in vinegar making silver acetate which is highly 
soluble in water.

 I set the jar on a North facing window sill. [no 'direct' sunlight]
 The white precipitate turned grey.
 ..added a dollop of white distilled vinegar.
It went clear, colorless, from mega TE to zero TE in a matter of moments.
Everything absolutely dissolved.
 I vaguely recall seeing some gas bubbles.

 A few days ago, someone confused my phone number with Bruce Marks' number 
and called me.

 He said he didn't see this happening with a CS Pro generator.
 Maybe using unlimited amounts of current does something different, or he 
starts and/or stops at a lower conductivity.  I dunno..


The only reason baking soda is used to buffer water is to get you to a 
certain spot on the 'run away' ramp so you can 'sorta' predict the end 
result PPM with a timer.  Otherwise, PPM is a total crap shoot.
 There is no difference between using  CS Pro generator and a set of nine 
volt batteries. Constant voltage is constant voltage.
 At least Bruce is aware of that problem and offers a way around it, but 
I'm pretty sure that using baking soda does affect the end product 
regardless of his  assertion that it doesn't.


Ode


At 04:48 PM 1/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:


I am curious to see this explored in depth.

I could not see Bruce Marx doing something that was completely unworkable.

Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAdding bicarb of soda to water for brewing

Adding a very small amount of baking soda to distilled water that has picked
up
some CO2 and formed carbonic acid is very interesting to analyze.

CO2 + H2O -  H2CO3  or carbonic acid
NaHCO3 + H2CO3 - NaOH +  2CO2 + H2O

If you don't add enough bicarb to neutralize all the carbonic acid, then you
can get this reaction as well:

2NaOH + H2CO3 = Na2CO3 + 2H2O

but then sodium carbonate should react with carbonic acid as well producing:

Na2CO3 + H2CO3 - 2NaOH + 2CO2

Which puts us right back to the Sodium Hydroxide again.

So unless I am mistaken, the smallest pinch possible of baking soda (or lye)
would neutralize 100% of the carbonic acid in distilled water that has
absorbed
CO2, and as long as no more is added than is necessary to cause all the CO2
to
be released, the effect will be a DECREASE in carbonate, not an increase.
The
sodium hydroxide acts as a catalyst to release CO2.  I have put this
question
to some chemists for confirmation and should have a reply shortly.

This appears to be a very interesting topic that needs more study.

Marshall




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Re: CSSilverPuppy

[Ode Coyote]

 ..a long time
About 20-24 hours for a gallon.
 Other than wiping off the electrodes now and then towards the end of that 
time, you don't have to watch it.
 Not wiping the electrodes 'sometimes' prevents timely operation in 
automatic mode.

 Water quality plays a role.
Not being able to get good water from a store, Sol worked like the Dickens 
and now has the water distillation process down to a T.

 Quarts run fine with zero attention in most store bought water.

Ode

At 02:43 AM 1/7/2006 +, you wrote:

How long does it take to make 1/2 Gal. and or 1 Gal. batches? Thanks in 
advance, Tom




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Re: CSvitamin c

[Ode Coyote]

  Being ready to go makes staying a lot more fun.
 Ready at 52.
..and very glad to not be younger.
 I don't think it will get better before it gets a lot worse.

Ode

At 10:07 PM 1/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:



Gad I hope I DON`T live that long.
After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world 
stinks.

And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other side.
I`m ready to go now, at 53.
Marshalee

p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?



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Re: CScayenne and silver

[Reid Harvey]

Hi Charles,

You Have wetted my appetite for cayenne, especially since I really like 
hot food, but could you please tell us where you got this information?  
And how does holding the cayenne solution under the tongue have so 
immediate an effect on the mucous membrane of the lungs?



Reid



Subject:
CScayenne and silver
From:
Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net
Date:
Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:39:47 -0500

To:
silver-dig...@eskimo.com, Silver- List silver-list@eskimo.com


came across this while researching cayenne.hope someone can use this 
information..


Cayenne and Colloidal Silver

It is unknown exactly how effective cayenne pepper is in delivering 
colloidal silver to the bloodstream or organs of the body. Our 
experiments centered around utilizing cayenne pepper orally for use with 
stubborn lung infections that were resistant to other treatment.


In addition to stimulating the circulatory system, cayenne loosens the 
mucus in the lungs associated with infections. Within only a few minutes 
of using cayenne orally, the mucus begins to break up, and the lungs 
begin a process of clearing. This treatment is ideal when nebulizing 
with colloidal silver. Since any colloidal silver is most effective in 
areas it can directly reach, utilizing cayenne in this manner can 
greatly increase the infection fighting properties of colloidal silver 
as used in the lungs.


We have always chosen to use the nebulizer first to deliver colloidal 
silver into the lung tissues ( see the section on oxygen nebulizer use 
). Then, having mixed one teaspoon of cayenne powder in a glass of warm 
water, one takes a partial mouthful of the mixture, and holds it under 
the tongue for as long as possible before swallowing ( at least 30 
seconds ). The discomfort is temporary, and is best done when the 
stomach is not empty. One waits three to five minutes ( or until 
comfortable ) before using the nebulizer again.


This treatment should be tailored according to the situation and the 
tolerance/condition of the person in question. Definitive results should 
become quite evident within 72 hours even with chronic conditions.


It is always wise to use cayenne pepper sparingly when the body is not 
adjusted to use. To do so, adjust the frequency of use and not the 
individual dose level. The critical part of the treatment is delivering 
as much of cayenne's heat to the body at one time as is safely possible.


The full potential of cayenne as used with colloidal silver is 
unexplored. Considering the known benefits of cayenne and its proven 
safety in culinary use, it is undoubtedly an excellent addition to any 
health regime

Re: CSdistiller questions, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!

[ruth strackbein]

Thanks Bob. Will do. Ruth
From Ruth Strackbein


From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.netReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSdistiller questions, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:36:38 -0800 (PST)
Hi Ruth,

Use the full 4 quarts but leave the filler hole open for about 5 minutes after steam is coming out of the hole before closing it.

To avoid getting a steam burn turn off the still until little or no steam is coming out of the filler hole. Then cap and restart the process."Ole Bob"


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CSWas vitamin c, living and loving it

[ransley]

Hey V- I thought you were an Old Fart HAHA! But you don't have much on me-
I'm 51 and every morning now I lust at the thoughts of what I will learn
today. I'm going to see Dr. Bill today- you know who I'm talking about-
about building the Energy Pulser. I can't wait!

Marshalee- Don't Give Up! I could bore you to tears with the troubles I've
seen and I've sure been where you are. But now I don't fear death, I just
love seeing what's going to happen next. I don't think I've said too much
here, but we are dealing with Lyme disease in our youngest daughter. It was
quite a blow!!! But now it's caused me to take trips up little roads to find
wonders and treasures I never thought of.

An allegory- Here in the middle of NC, there is a region where lots of folks
make their living as potters, with their shops in their homes or on the same
property. You can literally drive up an unmarked driveway, rutted and worn,
and come up to a wonderful charming old house or barn filled with some of
the most beautiful works of art, and meet some of the most real people
you've ever met. Our new battle with Lyme disease is taking me to meet new
people and see new things the likes of which are boggling my mind. I go up a
narrow path and find wonders at the end of it. Maybe you should start
looking at life that way? It's really not my business, just my $.02.

Daddybob


V wrote:

Hi Marshalee,

you must have a rough life I wolud like to live hundreds of years or more.
Seems I am jsut gettnig started and learning what I like and dont like so
now its time to start living, Im at 52 loL, Im still learnig but it seems
the first half of centurey was jsut an education for me, now to apply it in
the second half of the century and beyond. All you got to do is survive
another 20 years and they may solve the death problem. Man was designed to
live about 150 years as he is right now. the reason peopel die sooner and
suffer is due to ignorance of how to take care of them seleves mentally ,
emationally and phyiscaly






   Gad I hope I DON`T live that long. 
   After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this
world stinks.
   And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other
side.
   I`m ready to go now, at 53.
   Marshalee

   p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?




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CSRe: cancer

[jmcgeary]

Hi Frank,

As Mike said, one of the critical issues in addressing cancer is nutrition.  
The Dallas chapter of the Weston Price Foundation would be a good source of 
information on where you can get some top-quality local foods.  The chapter 
leaders are Kathy Harris and Ken Taylor wapfgr...@starband.net , 
www.salvonix.com/WAP/contact.htm .  (Side comment - use Ken to get info on food 
sources, but do not follow his medical advice - email me offlist if you want 
more thoughts on that)

Jerry Brunetti, another WAPF chapter leader, cured himself of cancer using 
nutrition and herbal cleanses.  You can get a CD he developed about the 
therapies he used from Acres USA (based in Austin, http://www.acresusa.com) - 
http://www.acresusa.com/books/closeup.asp?action=searchprodid=1354catid=pcid=2
  Brunetti is an absolutely amazing person, and 5 years after he was given a 
death sentence by mainstream medicine, he's a dynamo of energy and health.

Good luck to you and your family,
Judith

Re: CSMaximum Total PPM?

[Ode Coyote]

There is something that starts happening at 26- 30 uS and up, voltage plots 
start to change at around that point and conductivity gain slows down at 
the same current, but I have been able to go as high as 79 uS and maintain 
a stable colorless quality and the TE does get heavier and heavier compared 
to conductivity. [It took a LONG time to get there]

 It's really iffy however.
 30 uS appears to be some sort of energetic threshold which 'can' be 
surpassed, but the further past that threshold you go, the less likely the 
end product will be nice.
The more particles you pack together, the more 'likely' they will be 
triggered into clumping by some trace contaminant and the less of that 
contaminant it appears to take.
 I tend to favor a crystal nucleation effect theory with a probability of 
silver oxide particles being the nucleus in most cases.


I have no idea what the conductivity past 26 uS represents.Maybe 
another of 5 known forms of silver oxide?  Maybe silver peroxide or 
tetroxide?  [Pent-hydroxide??  OK, I made that up, but other configurations 
of hydroxides could be a possibility]
  Each form of oxide has a different solubility limit and adding one 
doesn't apparently diminish another.
Some of it is probably silver carbonate or carbonic acid from air 
exposure.  Silver carbonate isn't very soluble.


ode

At 08:41 PM 1/28/2006 +1030, you wrote:

According to various lab tests on commercial and home-made CS, most 
electrically made CS is in the 10 to 25 TOTAL ppm range. TOTAL ppm is the 
sum of the IONIC (or dissolved) silver (roughly measurable with a TDS or 
EC meter) and the PARTICLE (or colloidal) silver thats visible with a 
laser but not measurable with any meter.


The proportion of ionic to particle ppm is usually about 90% ionic to 10% 
particle give or take 5%.


But most of these tests have been done on nice clear CS because thats the 
stuff we are happy to drink and we can make it repeatedly without too much 
trouble.


(At around $700 for a full analysis with a particle size report its 
understandable that someone is only going to get a report on a product 
they can reliably reproduce)


But this seems to leave a gap in whats known about the actual maximum 
TOTAL ppm thats possible with, for example, a home brew system. If we 
ignore aspects such as color and light sensitivity, what TOTAL ppm can we 
really achieve?


The typical maximum IONIC ppm for a clear brew seems to be about 30. I 
understand theres a solubility limit involved here so its not something 
that can be played around with a whole lot. But can the particle PPM be 
raised by much?


I believe that once the ionic max is reached, the brew looses clarity and 
any additional dissolved ions immediately form compounds and either become 
increasingly large, or increasingly more abundant, colloids.


So my question  is, whats the maximum colloidal PARTICLE ppm thats 
possible over and above the ionic ppm? Is there a physical limit for that too?


David


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Re: CSUnidentified subject! distilling water

[ruth strackbein]

Hi! Just to set your mind at rest, I don't drink softened water. When soft water is distilled, the softener salt is removed. I think the problem is that I sent a partial post about distilling water. Somehow the computer I was using refused to put any more of my post on. I sent it anyway. Later I posted the full problem I was dealing with. Thanks for your concern, Optimal Life. 
From Ruth Strackbein


From: "4optimallife" 4optimall...@rogers.comReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:41:02 -0500If you must drink softened water, it is better to use potassium rather than the sodium to soften the water. Costs about $1 a bag more. You may have to search a bit for it.Kallie- Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:10 AMSubject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener.Bad for the heart.I believe the salts they use are the problem.Anyway, this 
got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me histomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly.It turned out that he was using water from the softener he hadinstalled that year.Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other livingthings!ChuckI'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished.On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com)wrote:From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. Ididn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send.Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working 
waterdistiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened waterinstead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine usedto get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run throughit, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machineperiodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard materialdoesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is regenerating during the 
day. I just make sure I don'tdo laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tellif my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the useof hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org Topost, add

Re: CSNew member..

[Ode Coyote]

  Cancer is a self replicating viable genetic mutation of a cell sometimes 
caused by a virus.

 Killing the virus won't always stop that new brand of cell from replicating.
 Radiation and chemical exposure can do it too.
 Cells are mutating all the time..most mutations aren't viable and don't 
self replicate.
 We live in a sea of radiation and natural chemicals as well as the man 
made variety.


Since every cell is a clone of another cell and you get a whole new set 
every 7 years, how many times can one clone a DNA strand without some 
degradation of the information even without outside interference from 
whatever source?
 Gradual [or quick] loss of cell function with each replication error can 
be just as deadly as cancer.
 It's likely that just living long enough causes cancer and it will 
eventually kill you if growing a set of barely working  kidneys doesn't do 
it first.


Cancer is not a new thing.  It was once rare, probably because very few 
people lived past 5 or 6 clone cycles, while now, most go to 9 and 10 
cycles. Very few make it to 14 and 15 and none of those look anything like 
they did at 3 or 4 cycles, internally or externally.


It might be possible to engineer a virus to insert new DNA or repair broken 
strands. [and get younger and younger till you're a fetus that needs an 
incubator to stay alive?]


ode

At 11:22 PM 1/6/2006 -0600, you wrote:


I must disagree with you.cancer is a virusCS will kill the virus.
Also, try getting his body alkaline as possible.
Alternative cancer cure  talks about having alkaline body:
 http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_how_started.html

 Make your body alkaline:

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm

 The plums are considered a condiment for seasoning foods such as brown
rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of  ketchup, or mustard,
hot sauce in its stead.  Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a
plum to a whole.  They are not usually eaten alone.
Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, and
riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to digestion,
stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and enhancing
the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract.  If a
persons digestive system is sensitive or compromised just one plum eaten
alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an entire
day.
Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where ume
is usually

translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It has
several organic acids

with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of
alkalizing the body.

1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration in
any fruit) of citric

acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline minerals
from other foods that

would otherwise not be absorbed.

2. Umeboshi itself contains high amounts of alkaline minerals (iron,
calcium, potassium,

manganese, etc.)

3. Citric acid breaks down lactic acid produced metabolically in our blood
and tissues.

4. Umeboshi contains picric acid that stimulates and supports the
detoxifying action of the

liver.

5. Umeboshi contains catechin acid which speeds peristaltic action in the
intestines as

well as the digestion of proteins.

6. Umeboshi peel contains pectic acid which has a laxative effect.

This information comes from the Kushi Institute.

http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp;jsessionid=F2C001CBD9983C96925ED2800DB80ECD?nxtg=26450a1c050e-60BDABF18D0D369Fsearch=umeboshi+plum
$12.88 for 7 oz.

http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html  $49.  2.2lb tub

http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50  2.2lb tub

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From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSNew member..



 Dear Frank,
   Sorry, but I don`t think CS can cure cancer. It sure is good at stopping
 colds
 and flu, and other bacterial infections, though. (Worked for me against
Lyme
 Disease.)
 I make my own and take 1/3 cup daily  as a preventive or up
 to a full cup if I feel something coming on.
 A teaspoonful of storebought stuff won`t do much, IMHO.
 Marshalee
 PS, I hope this helps:
 my son Cody died at 15 and was allowed choose to stay there or to come
back.
 He came back.
 He is now 28, married and father of two.
 He says words can`t begin to describe how beautiful it is up there.
Death
 is not a thing to fear, it is merely a doorway back Home from whence we
all
 came.




  ok, i got some CS. 10ppm silver hydrosol, label says 6
  droppers(1 teaspoon) daily for 154lb adult, he has
  cancer and cannot even speak sometimes, clerk at the
  store said i should double the dose for a while... yes
  or no?
 
  --- Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   Hello. My father has cancer and it is taking my mom
   and I 

Re: CScayenne and silver

[Jason E]

Hi Reid:

I initially did this research.  Since I've started studying CS for lung 
conditions, I've only come across one case that utilizing a nebulizer 
with CS has not cured in short order ( provided that usage instructions 
were followed ).


I became frustrated with this case.  It was a case a chronic bronchitis. 
 While CS used orally and via a nebulizer greatly helped with the 
condition, it did not eliminate it.


Yes, the individual was (is) a smoker.  To me, this was beside the point.

Restriction of oxygen flow and lack of circulation are two things one 
may have to deal with face to face with some infections. In a small 
flash of inspiration, I realized that cayenne was the stimulant I needed.


However, please realize that taking the capsules will not work.  One 
must mix high heat cayenne powder with warm water, and hold it in mouth 
as long as possible before swallowing.


Then, immediately nebulize using CS.

Not to mention, that cayenne used in this manner is equal to 
nitroglycerin its ability to stop a heart attack.


Kind Regards,

Jason

Reid Harvey wrote:

Hi Charles,

You Have wetted my appetite for cayenne, especially since I really like 
hot food, but could you please tell us where you got this information?  
And how does holding the cayenne solution under the tongue have so 
immediate an effect on the mucous membrane of the lungs?



Reid



Subject:
CScayenne and silver
From:
Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net
Date:
Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:39:47 -0500

To:
silver-dig...@eskimo.com, Silver- List silver-list@eskimo.com


_came across this while researching cayenne.hope someone can use 
this information.._
 
_Cayenne and Colloidal Silver_


It is unknown exactly how effective cayenne pepper is in delivering 
colloidal silver to the bloodstream or organs of the body. Our 
experiments centered around utilizing cayenne pepper orally for use with 
stubborn lung infections that were resistant to other treatment.


In addition to stimulating the circulatory system, cayenne loosens the 
mucus in the lungs associated with infections. Within only a few minutes 
of using cayenne orally, the mucus begins to break up, and the lungs 
begin a process of clearing. This treatment is ideal when nebulizing 
with colloidal silver. Since any colloidal silver is most effective in 
areas it can directly reach, utilizing cayenne in this manner can 
greatly increase the infection fighting properties of colloidal silver 
as used in the lungs.


We have always chosen to use the nebulizer first to deliver colloidal 
silver into the lung tissues ( see the section on oxygen nebulizer use 
). Then, having mixed one teaspoon of cayenne powder in a glass of warm 
water, one takes a partial mouthful of the mixture, and holds it under 
the tongue for as long as possible before swallowing ( at least 30 
seconds ). The discomfort is temporary, and is best done when the 
stomach is not empty. One waits three to five minutes ( or until 
comfortable ) before using the nebulizer again.


This treatment should be tailored according to the situation and the 
tolerance/condition of the person in question. Definitive results should 
become quite evident within 72 hours even with chronic conditions.


It is always wise to use cayenne pepper sparingly when the body is not 
adjusted to use. To do so, adjust the frequency of use and not the 
individual dose level. The critical part of the treatment is delivering 
as much of cayenne's heat to the body at one time as is safely possible.


The full potential of cayenne as used with colloidal silver is 
unexplored. Considering the known benefits of cayenne and its proven 
safety in culinary use, it is undoubtedly an excellent addition to any 
health regime





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Re: CScayenne and silver

[Jason E]

Oh!  I forgot to answer your question, Reid:

Cayenne opens up the capillaries, immediately providing increased 
circulation and oxygen to tissues.


Kind Regards,

Jason

Reid Harvey wrote:

Hi Charles,

You Have wetted my appetite for cayenne, especially since I really like 
hot food, but could you please tell us where you got this information?  
And how does holding the cayenne solution under the tongue have so 
immediate an effect on the mucous membrane of the lungs?



Reid



Subject:
CScayenne and silver
From:
Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net
Date:
Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:39:47 -0500

To:
silver-dig...@eskimo.com, Silver- List silver-list@eskimo.com


_came across this while researching cayenne.hope someone can use 
this information.._
 
_Cayenne and Colloidal Silver_


It is unknown exactly how effective cayenne pepper is in delivering 
colloidal silver to the bloodstream or organs of the body. Our 
experiments centered around utilizing cayenne pepper orally for use with 
stubborn lung infections that were resistant to other treatment.


In addition to stimulating the circulatory system, cayenne loosens the 
mucus in the lungs associated with infections. Within only a few minutes 
of using cayenne orally, the mucus begins to break up, and the lungs 
begin a process of clearing. This treatment is ideal when nebulizing 
with colloidal silver. Since any colloidal silver is most effective in 
areas it can directly reach, utilizing cayenne in this manner can 
greatly increase the infection fighting properties of colloidal silver 
as used in the lungs.


We have always chosen to use the nebulizer first to deliver colloidal 
silver into the lung tissues ( see the section on oxygen nebulizer use 
). Then, having mixed one teaspoon of cayenne powder in a glass of warm 
water, one takes a partial mouthful of the mixture, and holds it under 
the tongue for as long as possible before swallowing ( at least 30 
seconds ). The discomfort is temporary, and is best done when the 
stomach is not empty. One waits three to five minutes ( or until 
comfortable ) before using the nebulizer again.


This treatment should be tailored according to the situation and the 
tolerance/condition of the person in question. Definitive results should 
become quite evident within 72 hours even with chronic conditions.


It is always wise to use cayenne pepper sparingly when the body is not 
adjusted to use. To do so, adjust the frequency of use and not the 
individual dose level. The critical part of the treatment is delivering 
as much of cayenne's heat to the body at one time as is safely possible.


The full potential of cayenne as used with colloidal silver is 
unexplored. Considering the known benefits of cayenne and its proven 
safety in culinary use, it is undoubtedly an excellent addition to any 
health regime





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CSSeeking US Mil Vets - WWII/Vietnam

[Connie Howard]

 Mike I know this is off subject but I needed to contact as many of these
people as possible and figured this was one way.  If there are or you
know of any US vet who served during wartime who has a limited income
(adjustable)  who could use an increase in their monthly income please
email me...  or if you have question.craehow...@juno.com  

also if you know of any one who fits this description.   There is a push
to locate (especially those who served during WWII) these vets and see if
they need help.


sorry guys but this is important

connie


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CSMaximum silver content

[Terry Chamberlin]

David said,
“The typical maximum IONIC ppm for a clear brew seems
to be about 30. I understand there’s a solubility
limit involved here so it’s not something that can be
played around with a whole lot. But can the particle
PPM be raised by much? So my question is, what’s the
maximum colloidal PARTICLE ppm that’s possible over
and above the ionic ppm? Is there a physical limit for
that too?”
 
The question of maximum particle size is a good one.
What you are really asking is, What is the maximum
level of ionic suspended silver possible without using
proteins, gels, etc.? Of course, you could have 50,000
ppm by having one big chunk of silver the size of a
penny sitting at the bottom of a jar of water, but it
wouldn’t be ionic/colloidal. What causes a silver
particle to be a *colloid* is a combination of the
size of the particle and the presence of and strength
of the charge that particle has. I believe the reason
high-voltage CS is unaffected by sunlight, heat, cold,
magnetism, time, etc., is because the particles were
invested with a higher level of energy when they were
being produced than low-voltage CS. Also, particles
made with very low amperage, whether high-voltage or
low-voltage, are more resistant to external factors
than particles produced with a higher-amperage
electricity.

I suspect the formula would be something like this:
With such-and-such a voltage AND such-and-such a
current, the maximum particle size is this (before the
particles fall out of suspension). An increase in
voltage would require a decrease in current. A
decrease in current would allow you to increase the
voltage (allowing faster production speed) while still
producing small colloidal particle size.

The lower the current, the higher the percentage of
soluble silver particles (nanosilver). CS/EIS made
with 3 amp electricity has a higher percentage of
large colloidal particles (and a lower level of
nanosilver) than that made with .3 amp electricity.

So the question would be, What is the highest level of
ionic (particles with a charge) colloidal (particles
in suspension) silver that can be produced *at a
certain voltage/amperage*?

Terry Chamberlin







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Re: CSvitamin c - Heart Song

[Carol Ann]

  



  Everyone  has a song in their heart. Everyone has a reason for being here and 
a  season for making their highest, greatest most auspicious contribution.  No 
one knows what that is or when that is for anyone else. Only our own  heart 
knows what and when it is for us. Your heart wants to sing. Don’t  die with 
your music still within you. There is a reason for everything  and a purpose to 
your life. Too many fail to listen to the song in  their heart and therefore 
fail to find their purpose and their part.  What makes your soul sing and your 
heart dance? Actually you heart is  your soul and you are both! Ask this one 
question of yourself but don’t  be in a hurry to answer it. Live in the 
question for a day, a week, a  month. Let it invite your heart to speak to you. 
And when you are  absolutely sure what your heart is saying is true then begin 
to invoke  the changes necessary in your life so that you live in alignment 
with  your song. Be patient with this. 

www.relax7.com
   Hey,
Everyone thinks the Grass will be greener on the other side of the fence.
  By now, you should already know that it still has to be mowed, weeded, 
watered, tended too.  ;)  
  
  best regards, 
  carol ann
  
Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  You got that s totally 
right my deardeb

Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote:   
Gad I hope I DON`T live that long. 
  After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world 
stinks.
  And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other side.
  I`m ready to go now, at 53.
  Marshalee
   
  p.s. why die at ninety if you can die at 120?






  
  
  Carol Ann
   
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  The Optimist expects it to change;  
  The Realist adjusts the Sails.   - The world needs more sailors.  






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Re: CSCS as a preservative

[Sandee George]

Hi There Sol - I beg to differ, I use C.S. to make gels and they are
miraculous - I also use/spray C.S. on vegetables, fruits etc., to kill
all 
the little devils which cause them to breakdown or who want to eat them
before I do, especially on tomatoes - now the creams I cannot say any-
thing about as I am not inclined to make them, there are too many 
chemical reactions to this and that so I leave this alone for others to
work
out.   Have a wonderful day
Regards
Sandee


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CSRe:New member.. Cancer ?

[Sandee George]

Hi there Ode you are the greatest
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSliving or not

[Marshalee Hallett]

It is much better on the other side.
I`m ready to go now, at 53.
  I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee -- but 53 
is awful early to leave the party!  I hope that 2006 is a better year for you 
than you've obviously been having.MA

  Thanks for the kind thoughts, but I really don`t have much of a reason to 
remain here. Here`s why:
  I have no hubby, (he dumped me after 27 years of marriage for a woman 6 years 
older than he was, go figure!), 
  the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more, (if I didn`t 
call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few friends are usually busy, so I 
see them only occasionally.
   I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have read the 
entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m rereading the entire 
set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the tube, or playing on this computer. 
Occasionally I go to a movie. I have been to three of them in the last 16 
months.
  The only thing making me want to stick around are my little Pugs. (I call 
them my living Prozac!)
  Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they were at the 
beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my back to clean their 
cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub the bottom trays and wires. So 
they get really dirty before I pluck up the courage to clean them. I`m putting 
an ad in for them today to sell them. sigh...
   My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me.
  So much for life.
  Marshalee

CSFluoride filters

[Kelburn Koontz]

Hi I need to get a filter to remove fluoride from my water.  After a brief 
web search I found this one.

http://www.purewaterabode.com/CrystalQuestFluoride.htm

Does anyone know of a better one?

Thanks,
Kel



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RE: CSMaximum Total PPM?

[Vince Richter]

1,000,000 ppm would be the max particle ppm.  It would be one particle of
pure silver with no water or anything else.  It would result from putting
pure solid silver in a container with no other substance.  It would not be
useful for our bodies. 

 

On a much more serious note: what would be the point of increasing silver
content by increasing particles and particle size?

 

Vince

 

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From: alchemySA [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMaximum Total PPM?

 

According to various lab tests on commercial and home-made CS, most
electrically made CS is in the 10 to 25 TOTAL ppm range. TOTAL ppm is the
sum of the IONIC (or dissolved) silver (roughly measurable with a TDS or EC
meter) and the PARTICLE (or colloidal) silver thats visible with a laser but
not measurable with any meter. 

 

The proportion of ionic to particle ppm is usually about 90% ionic to 10%
particle give or take 5%.

 

But most of these tests have been done on nice clear CS because thats the
stuff we are happy to drink and we can make it repeatedly without too much
trouble.

 

(At around $700 for a full analysis with a particle size report its
understandable that someone is only going to get a report on a product they
can reliably reproduce)

 

But this seems to leave a gap in whats known about the actual maximum TOTAL
ppm thats possible with, for example, a home brew system. If we ignore
aspects such as color and light sensitivity, what TOTAL ppm can we really
achieve?

 

The typical maximum IONIC ppm for a clear brew seems to be about 30. I
understand theres a solubility limit involved here so its not something that
can be played around with a whole lot. But can the particle PPM be raised by
much? 

 

I believe that once the ionic max is reached, the brew looses clarity and
any additional dissolved ions immediately form compounds and either become
increasingly large, or increasingly more abundant, colloids. 

 

So my question  is, whats the maximum colloidal PARTICLE ppm thats possible
over and above the ionic ppm? Is there a physical limit for that too?

 

David

Re: CSvitamin c

[Bill Keen]

Why are most people afraid to leave?
   
  Because they aren't sure that they will be on the Good Ones list and may 
get the 'shadows' instead.
   
  Bill Keen

Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
  Being ready to go makes staying a lot more fun.
Ready at 52.
..and very glad to not be younger.
I don't think it will get better before it gets a lot worse.

Ode

At 10:07 PM 1/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:


Gad I hope I DON`T live that long.
After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world 
stinks.
And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other side.
I`m ready to go now, at 53.
Marshalee

Re: CSvitamin c

[cking001]

Sol,
It didn't seem feasible to swallow 16 gram size capsules and besides,
it costs more for the manufacturing step.
I opted for powdered ascorbic acid dissolved in water.
Makes a hell of a lemonade!
I use no sweeteners. You do as you deem prudent!

Good prices/service from http://beyond-a-century.com/

Here's a interesting side effect of megadose C. You are sworn to
secrecy...
It makes it difficult to become intoxicated.
I never said that!

Here's another, about megadosing with vitamin E...
I don't sunburn anymore. It used to be a big problem (white, Irish
decent).

Remember, you can't tell anyone! I don't think the world is ready!
Anyway, I don't want to encourage reckless behavior.

Chuck

What is the output of a vacuum pump?

On 1/8/2006 12:22:41 AM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:
 How do you take yours? Capsules, tablets, powder? Does the form make any
 difference to tolerance?
 Probably
 I've wasted years trying to up my dosage too fast. Duh!
 I have IBS. Which has improved significantly due to CS, but isn't
 gone yet.
 sol
 
 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 Well, I have no problem anymore unless I lay off for a long time.
 
 I learned a long time ago to start with a dose I can handle.
 If a gram is too much do half of that.
 Then try a gram the next day, because acclimation is pretty quick.
 
 I find that a bowel tolerance level one day is comfortable the next.
 
 After that, ramp up to the dosage you want, perhaps a half gram at a
 time.
 
 Some like to buffer their C, but I've never had the need.
 
  Chuck
 What do macrobiotic cats eat?
Brown mice
 
 
 


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Re: CSWas vitamin c, living and loving it

[Bill Keen]

Daddybob,
   
  Have you been to:  www.lymephotos.com   ?
   
  Bill Keen

ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote:
  Hey V- I thought you were an Old Fart HAHA! But you don't have much on me-
I'm 51 and every morning now I lust at the thoughts of what I will learn
today. I'm going to see Dr. Bill today- you know who I'm talking about-
about building the Energy Pulser. I can't wait!

Marshalee- Don't Give Up! I could bore you to tears with the troubles I've
seen and I've sure been where you are. But now I don't fear death, I just
love seeing what's going to happen next. I don't think I've said too much
here, but we are dealing with Lyme disease in our youngest daughter. It was
quite a blow!!! But now it's caused me to take trips up little roads to find
wonders and treasures I never thought of.

An 

Re: CSvitamin c

[cking001]

On 1/7/2006 11:00:27 PM, ekowal...@aol.com wrote:
 I
 didn't say that was the only cause of wrinkles and white hair-that was just 
 me being smart although seriously it is a sign of copper deficiency.

Yup, could be, but the actual human need for copper is quite small,
thus easy to maintain with the right foods alone.

 It seems I've
 sparked a controversy about the age thing. I'd rather go at one twenty if I 
 was healthy...

It is my belief that we each choose our own deaths and choose when to
leave. Timespan is relativity unimportant.
As long as we're druthering though, I'd choose healthy!

Chuck

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Re: CSCS as a preservative

[Peter]

Gel with cs? please have you any recipe ?

///peter





Hi There Sol - I beg to differ, I use C.S. to make gels and they are
miraculous - I also use/spray C.S. on vegetables, fruits etc., to kill
all 
the little devils which cause them to breakdown or who want to eat them

before I do, especially on tomatoes - now the creams I cannot say any-
thing about as I am not inclined to make them, there are too many 
chemical reactions to this and that so I leave this alone for others to

work
out.   Have a wonderful day
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSNew member..

[sol]

Most of the testimonials I have read re cancer cures with CS seem to be 
from people who took up to a couple of liters per day.
This is a very good reason to get a generator and make CS for your 
father. I personally have no confidence such a minimal dose of CS would 
cure anything, let alone cancer. Some people do report good results from 
mere teaspoons per day of Sovereign Silver, but not for cancer I think.


sol



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Re: CSSilverPuppy

[sol]

Haven't timed a batch in over a year. I normally don't bother 'seeding', 
but start every batch from my DW plain, which runs about .3 to .4 uS. So 
keep that in mind.
If you want I can make a batch and time it, what size would you like me 
to time?

sol


tom chick wrote:


How long does it take to make 1/2 Gal. and or 1 Gal. batches? Thanks in 
advance, Tom



 




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Re: CSvitamin c

[sol]

That link just got me to a not found/error page.
sol

alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:


Let the stirring of the pot begin...
http://www.vet-task-force.com/wallach.htm

 




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Re: CSSilverPuppy

[sol]

Ode,
  The smallest size I do now is a half-gallon. I don't wipe the 
electrodes during the brewing. Works fine, great results unless I've had 
to use substandard (for me) DW.
I don't usually bother to 'seed'. The extra time it takes is ok. I run a 
batch almost every day. Most days it is just regular 'morning chores' 
here, empty the distiller collection bottle, fill and start the 
distiller,  start a batch of CS. Fill my 1 quart insulated mug with DW 
ice cubes and CS for sipping during the day.


sol

Ode Coyote wrote:


 ..a long time
About 20-24 hours for a gallon.
 Other than wiping off the electrodes now and then towards the end of 
that time, you don't have to watch it.
 Not wiping the electrodes 'sometimes' prevents timely operation in 
automatic mode.

 Water quality plays a role.
Not being able to get good water from a store, Sol worked like the 
Dickens and now has the water distillation process down to a T.

 Quarts run fine with zero attention in most store bought water.

Ode




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Re: CSMaximum silver content

[Bill Keen]

Terry,
   
  Once I let some HVAC CS stand where it got some direct sunlight and it turned 
into a dark gray that looked like sewage.  After that one time mine has never 
been in direct sunlight and not close to a window or directly across from a 
window.  I've never had that happen since then.
   
  Bill Keen

Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:
of the charge that particle has. I believe the reason
high-voltage CS is unaffected by sunlight, heat, cold,
magnetism, time, etc., is because the particles were
  
Terry Chamberlin

Re: CSCS as a preservative

[sol]

Miraculous at what? What are you using the gels for?
sol

Sandee George wrote:


Hi There Sol - I beg to differ, I use C.S. to make gels and they are
miraculous - 




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Re: CSvitamin c

[Ekowal459]

I didn't say that was the only cause of wrinkles and white hair-that was  
just me being smart although seriously it is a sign of copper deficiency. It  
seems I've sparked a controversy about the age thing. I'd rather go at one  
twenty if I was healthy...

Re: CSvitamin c

[cking001]

My research showed that 3000 iu is a safe dose.
I take 1000 iu.
My cardiologist disapproves, so I believe I'm on the right track.
Medical personnel seem to like 400 iu as a max.
My interest was peaked decades ago by reading about the Shute
brothers, Canadian Cardiologists, that healed many cases of heart
disease with E therapy.
They get no respect here in the US.
I DO recommend looking them up in the search engines.

As usual , this is what I  do and these are MY observations. YMMV!

Chuck
_When the bird and the bird book disagree, believe the bird!

On 1/8/2006 4:34:00 AM, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote:
 Hi Chuck,
 I know about Vit C megadoses. What amounts do you consider a Vitamin E
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Re: CSliving or not

[cking001]

Marshalee,
Chronic backpain is no fun at all! 
I've been there from back in my twenties.
I got QUICK relief using DMSO as a linament. I found it in a rollon
version to be the easiest to use. It's a healing treatment too.

Another supplement that gave good relief is MSM powder. I used a
heaping teaspoon of powdered but you can get capsules also.
It's very bitter. I dissolve in water, and chug it quickly.

Just passing it on...

Chuck
When the foolkiller comes around,
 we'd better all hide in the high grass .

On 1/8/2006 5:51:43 AM, Marshalee Hallett (utahpug...@izikoo.com)
wrote:
 Not much fun, though, being lonely, in pain, and bored stiffl
 At least Harry Potter is fun!
 I do try to share CS with all and sundry who will listen, and boy, that is
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Re: CSCS as a preservative

[Sandee George]

I can't say healing or curing - so I will say assisting those who wish to
be healed - anything topical and I mean anything topical and they are
magical !
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSCS as a preservative

[Sandee George]

Hi There Peter - I do have a receipt however as I product it for sale
I think you will understand why I would not give my formula out.   I am 
not allowed to sell anything from this site so will let you all know when
a website is up where you can buy it if you would like - you could also
ask Ode for one of his kits if he has them ready as yet - happy to pass
on the word
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSFrank's Dad, cancer

[Grace1way]

 
In a message dated 1/6/2006 7:19:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
mdev...@eskimo.com writes:

Hello.  My father has cancer and it is taking my mom
 and I both to take care  of him as he cannot get out of
 bed.  I am looking for an  immediate cure. I just
 joined and I'm in Dallas. I know health stores  carry
 this but I have not looked into the cost yet. Any  recommendations?


In addition to M. D's input, and taking at least 2 quarts good quality CS  in 
divided doses(building up as tolerated), I would add a raw food diet, and an  
herb preparation called C-1.  The raw food diet and the C-1 got rid of lung  
cancer in a friend of mine in three months.  Ten years later he is  
certifiably free from cancer.  Had we known about CS back then, he would  have 
taken 
that as well.  You can order the herb preparation from New Body  Products, 
(310) 
537-4793 (USA).  The dose of the herb is important.   You don't want to 
release toxins faster than the body can handle.  Either  use 1/2 capsule daily, 
or 
have a qualified person muscle test for an  individualized dosage (with 
retesting regularly).  To obtain the C-1  quickly call the number above in the 
morning, give them a credit card number,  and tell them it is urgent.  You will 
 
have it by the next day.   The cost of the herb will be less than $20 for 100 
capsules.
 
Sending prayers your way,
 
Jill

CSPPM measurement

[Terry Chamberlin]

Vince said,
“1,000,000 ppm would be the max particle ppm.  It
would be one particle of pure silver with no water or
anything else.  It would result from putting pure
solid silver in a container with no other substance. 
It would not be useful for our bodies. “

No, Vince, ppm is calculated as a ratio of total
amount of silver to a certain amount of water. If what
you said above was true, every piece of silver by
itself would be 1,000,000 ppm.







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CSStable CS

[Terry Chamberlin]

Bill said,
 Once I let some HVAC CS stand where it got some
direct sunlight and it turned into a dark gray that
looked like sewage.  After that one time mine has
never been in direct sunlight and not close to a
window or directly across from a window.  I've never
had that happen since then. 

Once I left low-voltage behind and developed my
present device, I took a quart of CS in a clear jar
and set it in the window in the direct sunlight. A
shelf got inadvertently put in front of it and I
forgot about it. One day I moved the shelf and there
it was. It had been sitting there in the sun for 15
months. It had a very, very pale yellowish tinge to it
that you had to look at from several directions to be
sure you saw.

Terry Chamberlin


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Re: CSliving or not

[Grace1way]

Would you care to consider some alternative perspectives?
 
1.  It may be better on the other side, but your stay will only be  temporary 
there, and then you will come back having to take on the same  unfinished 
tasks for which you chose to come this time, having designed your  present 
circumstances to assist you in meeting your goals.
 
2.  Ultimately, life is not fulfilling when the goal is to find  happiness in 
external conditions--finances, relationships, approval, doing  things, etc., 
etc., etc.  This is true for everyone, but due to some  partial state of 
fulfillment, intense distraction, and not wanting to admit  failure they have 
not 
realized this yet!  You could just be fortunate to  have realized this ahead 
of the pack!
 
3.  What if life is designed as a school, with the purpose being to  grow and 
evolve, rather than to acquire from, and manipulate, outer conditions  in 
order to be happy?
 
4.  What if happiness can be had from within? (No kidding!)
 
5.  What if there are well-written manuals which introduce you to your  inner 
school teacher?
 
6.  What if your present circumstances are perfect as they are, just  
requiring an about face in the way you see things?
 
Interested?  E-mail me privately, making the subject line clear so I  don't 
erase your message.
 
 
 
 

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Re: CSFleas and littler fleas

[V]

Yupp and we are all busy killing our littler fleas with CS all the time and 
wonder we we arent gettnig any healthier. loL




Take care,
 V


 Now that thar is interesting :)

 Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:  Great fleas have little fleas
 Upon their backs to bite 'em
 Little fleas have littler fleas
 And so ad infinitum ?

 This reminds me of an article I was reading some time
 back about how scientists had discovered that termites
 couldn't digest the wood they ate, but had tiny
 microbes in their stomachs that actually digested the
 wood for them. Later they discovered that these tiny
 microbes didn't digest the wood, but had even tinier
 microbes inside them that actually digested the wood!

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RE: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

[Jim Holmes]

It is the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital wars,
and dysplasia.

Genital wars?  Now that is serious.

-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

I just wanted to say that all Cancers are not caused by virus. Certain
Cancers, such as Lymphomas are caused by Virus. I did a lot of reading on
this because my husband had Hodgkin's Lymphoma. (Cancer of lymph) One of the
most widespread tumor formers is a very active virus called papilloma. It is
the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital wars, and
dysplasia. Endometriosis can be a papilloma virus, It can form brain and
anal tumors. There are several different Virus's that can form tumors.

Then, there are the Cancer Tumors that are caused by fungus. The hard tumor
is the fungus tumor. Prostrate Cancer is fungal.

I am not an expert on all this, but to fight Cancer it helps to know what is
causing the Cancer to form. I got this info in a book by Hanna Kroeger. She
has a test in there that you can do yourself to determine whether you have
the fungal Cancer of not. She says it will indicate Cancer, two years before
it is detectable to conventional tests. Instructions for anyone wanting to
try it as follows,-
 Take the first morning urine in a celluloid cup. (not foam cup) Cover it
with one layer of toilet paper and place in a dark place. In the evening
place it in refrigerator on the lowest shelf. The next morning pour out the
urine. Where air and urine touched, there will be a fatty waxy ring in the
cup if fungus cancer is present in your system.

According to most people in the natural field,-everyone with Cancer has
parasites.
Paula

- Original Message - 
From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew member..


 I must disagree with you.cancer is a virusCS will kill the virus.
 Also, try getting his body alkaline as possible.
 Alternative cancer cure  talks about having alkaline body:
  http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_how_started.html

  Make your body alkaline:

 http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm

  The plums are considered a condiment for seasoning foods such as brown
 rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of  ketchup, or
mustard,
 hot sauce in its stead.  Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a
 plum to a whole.  They are not usually eaten alone.
 Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, and
 riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to digestion,
 stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and enhancing
 the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract.  If a
 persons digestive system is sensitive or compromised just one plum eaten
 alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an entire
 day.
 Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where
ume
 is usually

 translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It
has
 several organic acids

 with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of
 alkalizing the body.

 1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration in
 any fruit) of citric

 acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline minerals
 from other foods that

 would otherwise not be absorbed.

 2. Umeboshi itself contains high amounts of alkaline minerals (iron,
 calcium, potassium,

 manganese, etc.)

 3. Citric acid breaks down lactic acid produced metabolically in our blood
 and tissues.

 4. Umeboshi contains picric acid that stimulates and supports the
 detoxifying action of the

 liver.

 5. Umeboshi contains catechin acid which speeds peristaltic action in the
 intestines as

 well as the digestion of proteins.

 6. Umeboshi peel contains pectic acid which has a laxative effect.

 This information comes from the Kushi Institute.


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 $12.88 for 7 oz.

 http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html  $49.  2.2lb tub

 http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50  2.2lb tub

 - Original Message - 
 From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:40 PM
 Subject: Re: CSNew member..


 
  Dear Frank,
Sorry, but I don`t think CS can cure cancer. It sure is good at
stopping
  colds
  and flu, and other bacterial infections, though. (Worked for me against
 Lyme
  Disease.)
  I make my own and take 1/3 cup daily  as a preventive or up
  to a full cup if I feel something coming on.
  A teaspoonful of storebought stuff won`t do much, IMHO.
  Marshalee
  PS, I hope this helps:
  my son 

Re: CSliving or not

[V]

Hi Marshalee,

The world does need you. you jsut need to get the message out that you are 
available to do the things that people need you for, there are plenty of them 
out there that need you badly... go find them.. that is your mission in life 
now. When you find them they will be so happy to see you it will bring tears to 
their eyes... and yours too :-) Go for it.

Take care,
 V



 It is much better on the other side.
 I`m ready to go now, at 53.
   I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee --
 but 53 is awful early to leave the party!  I hope that 2006 is a better
 year for you than you've obviously been having.MA

   Thanks for the kind thoughts, but I really don`t have much of a reason to 
 remain here. Here`s why:
   I have no hubby, (he dumped me after 27 years of marriage for a woman
 6 years older than he was, go figure!), 
   the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more, (if I
 didn`t call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few friends are
 usually busy, so I see them only occasionally.
I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have read
 the entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m rereading
 the entire set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the tube, or playing on
 this computer. Occasionally I go to a movie. I have been to three of them in 
 the last 16 months.
   The only thing making me want to stick around are my little Pugs. (I call 
 them my living Prozac!)
   Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they were
 at the beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my back to
 clean their cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub the bottom
 trays and wires. So they get really dirty before I pluck up the courage
 to clean them. I`m putting an ad in for them today to sell them. sigh...
My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me.
   So much for life.
   Marshalee


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Re: CSNew member..

[Frank West]

i read something about argaria(spellt right?) and that
its bad

--- Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net wrote:

 By all means, give him as much as you can afford.  I
 would try a teaspoon
 every hour.  You cannot take too much CS.  Does he
 have any IV tubes Get
 some of the Argentyn 23 and add 40cc to the IV
 Nancy
 - Original Message - 
 From: Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:51 PM
 Subject: Re: CSNew member..
 
 
  ok, i got some CS. 10ppm silver hydrosol, label
 says 6
  droppers(1 teaspoon) daily for 154lb adult, he has
  cancer and cannot even speak sometimes, clerk at
 the
  store said i should double the dose for a while...
 yes
  or no?
 
  --- Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
   Hello. My father has cancer and it is taking my
 mom
   and I both to take care of him as he cannot get
 out
   of
   bed.  I am looking for an immediate cure. I just
   joined and I'm in Dallas. I know health stores
 carry
   this but I have not looked into the cost yet.
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Re: CSliving or not

[Pat]

I'm enjoying living and hope to keep on for years, but if it's time,  it's ok, 
I've had a great time being here.  It's easy to lose  sight of happiness, I 
think, if your family life isn't good and if you  have lots of pain and are 
limited in what you can do.  But,  contact with fellow humans is the best thing 
for you.  Reading  here how to improve your health and knowing we're here with 
you is  good.  I love playing games at Pogo.com and chatting, reading  books, 
reading lots on the computer, ...but probably the best thing  I've done for 
myself is join the Y for water aerobics.  It's made  a difference knowing all 
those great ppl.  They're almost all  between 50 and 86 and are full of life in 
spite of all their physical  problems.  I find the over 50s to be more open and 
friendly and  without competition and jealousy like the young ones. Another 
option  would be something like Meals on Wheels.  You are definitely  needed.   
Keep improving your health as much as possible and try 
 anyway you can to mix with people.  

  Pat
  

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Re: CSCS as a preservative

[sol]

Yes, but what specifically? Open wounds? Infected wounds? Or soothing 
rashes, and bruises?
I'd really like to know *specifically* what types of things you find 
your gels miraculaous for.


thanks,
sol

Sandee George wrote:


I can't say healing or curing - so I will say assisting those who wish to
be healed - anything topical and I mean anything topical and they are
magical !
Regards
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RE: CSDE CS for teeth

[ransley]

Brush with it, harshly. DB 


ransley wrote:

 Food grade DE and a mouthful of CS are really good for cleaning the 
 teeth about once in two weeks. I wouldn't do it any more often than 
 that. DB

Do you brush with it, or just swirl it around and spit it out?

Marshall





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Re: CSSilverPuppy

[tom chick]

sol, Thanks. If you would can you time 1/2 gal.  



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RE: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

[Carol Ann]

Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: It is the cause  of cervical tumors, 
breast tumors, lymphoma, genital wars,
and dysplasia.

Genital wars?  Now that is serious.
Yes, it isLOL



  
  
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[Carol Ann]

Hi Chuck,
I know about Vit C megadoses. What amounts do you consider a Vitamin E megadose.

I don't know where you get your tag lines.but they are hilarious. I do so 
appreciate them. 

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Sol,
It didn't seem feasible to swallow 16 gram size capsules and besides,
it costs more for the manufacturing step.
I opted for powdered ascorbic acid dissolved in water.
Makes a hell of a lemonade!
I use no sweeteners. You do as you deem prudent!

Good prices/service from http://beyond-a-century.com/

Here's a interesting side effect of megadose C. You are sworn to
secrecy...
It makes it difficult to become intoxicated.
I never said that!

Here's another, about megadosing with vitamin E...
I don't sunburn anymore. It used to be a big problem (white, Irish
decent).

Remember, you can't tell anyone! I don't think the world is ready!
Anyway, I don't want to encourage reckless behavior.





  
  
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Re: CSliving or not

[Deborah Gerard]

By the way Pat I thought it was you that was being rudesorry my deardeb

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:  I'm enjoying living and hope to keep on 
for years, but if it's time, it's ok, I've had a great time being here.  It's 
easy to lose sight of happiness, I think, if your family life isn't good and if 
you have lots of pain and are limited in what you can do.  But, contact with 
fellow humans is the best thing for you.  Reading here how to improve your 
health and knowing we're here with you is good.  I love playing games at 
Pogo.com and chatting, reading books, reading lots on the computer, ...but 
probably the best thing I've done for myself is join the Y for water aerobics.  
It's made a difference knowing all those great ppl.  They're almost all between 
50 and 86 and are full of life in spite of all their physical problems.  I find 
the over 50s to be more open and friendly and without competition and jealousy 
like the young ones. Another option would be something like Meals on Wheels.  
You are definitely needed.   Keep i! mproving your health as
 much as possible and try anyway you can to mix with people.  

   Pat

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[Deborah Gerard]

Your totally right V...I see all kinds of those people in adult foster homes 
and nursing homes or people that just plain don't have anybody and wish they 
did...even to talk to...do you get out and around Marshalee?...deb

V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:  Hi Marshalee,

The world does need you. you jsut need to get the message out that you are 
available to do the things that people need you for, there are plenty of them 
out there that need you badly... go find them.. that is your mission in life 
now. When you find them they will be so happy to see you it will bring tears to 
their eyes... and yours too :-) Go for it.

Take care,
V



 It is much better on the other side.
 I`m ready to go now, at 53.
 I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee --
 but 53 is awful early to leave the party! I hope that 2006 is a better
 year for you than you've obviously been having. MA

 Thanks for the kind thoughts, but I really don`t have much of a reason to 
 remain here. Here`s why:
 I have no hubby, (he dumped me after 27 years of marriage for a woman
 6 years older than he was, go figure!), 
 the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more, (if I
 didn`t call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few friends are
 usually busy, so I see them only occasionally.
 I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have read
 the entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m rereading
 the entire set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the tube, or playing on
 this computer. Occasionally I go to a movie. I have been to three of them in 
 the last 16 months.
 The only thing making me want to stick around are my little Pugs. (I call 
 them my living Prozac!)
 Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they were
 at the beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my back to
 clean their cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub the bottom
 trays and wires. So they get really dirty before I pluck up the courage
 to clean them. I`m putting an ad in for them today to sell them. sigh...
 My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me.
 So much for life.
 Marshalee


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Re: CSliving or not

[harsha godavari]

Marshalee:
   Celebrate your freedom and savour life as Marshalee not MRS.X
or  xx's MoMMY  or xxs daughter. Atlast in your life you be what that little
girl Marshalee wanted to be.


Marshalee Hallett wrote:





   It is much better on the other side.I`m ready to go now,
   at 53.

  I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee
  -- but 53 is awful early to leave the party!  I hope that 2006 is a
  better year for you than you've obviously been having.MA Thanks
  for the kind thoughts, but I really don`t have much of a reason to
  remain here. Here`s why:I have no hubby, (he dumped me after 27
  years of marriage for a woman 6 years older than he was, go
  figure!),

  Good, you don't have to share the bed/blanket ot suffer the snores 
  smells of the old fart. enjoy your own smells and feel free to
  fart..

   the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more,
  (if I didn`t call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few
  friends are usually busy, so I see them only occasionally.

  So who needs them. Get up in the morning if you feel like it or
  sleep in or loll about in your PJ or birthday suit. Don't brush your
  teeth if you don't feel like it. Don't waste money on phone calls.
  The telco doesnot need your support. If your kids don't call, it
  means they are ok. If they dropped dead, there is not a thing you
  can do. So eitherway no need to worry. Get a cat if you have to.

I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have
  read the entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m
  rereading the entire set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the
  tube, or playing on this computer. Occasionally I go to a movie. I
  have been to three of them in the last 16 months.The only thing
  making me want to stick around are my little Pugs. (I call them my
  living Prozac!)

  The last movie I saw was starwars 25 years ago. I don't miss them.
  What is on tv ? Lies, murder/mayhem and sex at the drop of a hat.
  Why would I want to watch someone else performing?

   Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they
  were at the beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my
  back to clean their cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub
  the bottom trays and wires. So they get really dirty before I pluck
  up the courage to clean them. I`m putting an ad in for them today to
  sell them. sigh...

  If you like birds that much put up a bird feeder, less work and
  constant activity.

My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me.

  Do you hear what you are saying? Your own body/mind needs you and
  you are looking outside. Take a lovely bubble bath...massage
  yourself...touch and feel all parts your body, sing a lullaboy to
  yourself, who cares what your voice sounds like, its YOURS and thats
  what is important. Get to know your body.Its a living temple. Enjoy
  the snow flakes and enjoy the sunshine.

   So much for life.
   and experince every moment of it. This moment is really all you
  have
   Marshalee

  Regards
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RE: CSPPM measurement

[Vince Richter]

Come to think of it, you are right.  1,000,000 divided by zero (no water)
would be undefined One drop of water in a glass would allow a valid
calculation with a high ppm.  The bigger the chunk of silver the higher the
ppm.  Of course that wouldn't be a colloidal suspension, but it would be ppm
particle.

The point was, FWIW, more silver particles that are bigger and bigger in
water becomes less and less useful.  

My question was, why would we try and get a max ppm colloidal?

Vince

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From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPPM measurement

Vince said,
1,000,000 ppm would be the max particle ppm.  It
would be one particle of pure silver with no water or
anything else.  It would result from putting pure
solid silver in a container with no other substance. 
It would not be useful for our bodies. 

No, Vince, ppm is calculated as a ratio of total
amount of silver to a certain amount of water. If what
you said above was true, every piece of silver by
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CS ionic v. particulate - once again

[Jodi]

  From: alchemySA da...@alchemysa.com.au

  What would be the point? What are you suggesting Vince? That only
  ionic silver is effective and that particles are useless?  That could
  be true, I dont know.
 
  David

I've been away from some time expending all of my energy taking care of 
a disabled child, dealing with extreme hypothyroidism (which makes it 
very hard to do anything, although this is 'finally' getting better 
after a whole lot of treatment with high doses of natural thyroid 
hormones), AND, I live where Hurricane Katrina hit so my apartment has 
no walls, no floors, no cabinets, and we have a FEMA trailer outside BUT 
it is too small for us to actually move into.  But, I degress.  The 
thing is, I came on to this board a few years ago asking almost the 
'very same question' as David did. Now, after alot of research, I've 
come to wonder why there is such a controversy here?  Ionic vs. 
particulate?  Everything always seems to be - black or white, on this 
planet and in this world.  But I've come to believe it might be more of 
a grey.  Surely we can all see that there are good points on both 
fronts, and these points cannot be argued away.  If they could, we 
wouldn't be wondering one way or the other.  The facts seem to allude 
that it cannot be either/or. There's truth in each that cannot be 
discounted. I think the particles AND the ions are BOTH necessary for 
silver's effectiveness as an antibiotic and healing agent in our bodies. 
  But no one has figured any of this out yet, to its completion, 
apparently.  I'm just convinced that from what I've learned at this 
point, it can't be black or white so-to-speak - it 'has' to be grey. 
Both sides contribute, yet everyone is looking for only one side to be 
100% right.  I just don't think that works.

Going back into my hole now.
Jodi



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Re: CSliving or not

[Marshalee Hallett]

  Not much fun, though, being lonely, in pain, and bored stiffl 
  At least Harry Potter is fun!
  I do try to share CS with all and sundry who will listen, and boy, that is 
worthwhile!!
  Marshalee
  PS, My son told me today he wants me to move closer to him so he can see me 
more often, that made my day!
  I`m trying now to find something, as the landlord here is a real sob.



  Marshalee: 
 Celebrate your freedom and savour life as Marshalee not 
MRS.X or  xx's MoMMY  or xxs daughter. Atlast in your life you be what that 
little girl Marshalee wanted to be. 


  Marshalee Hallett wrote: 

  

It is much better on the other side.I`m ready to go now, at 53.
  I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee -- 
but 53 is awful early to leave the party!  I hope that 2006 is a better year 
for you than you've obviously been having.MA Thanks for the kind thoughts, 
but I really don`t have much of a reason to remain here. Here`s why:I have no 
hubby, (he dumped me after 27 years of marriage for a woman 6 years older than 
he was, go figure!), 
  Good, you don't have to share the bed/blanket ot suffer the snores  
smells of the old fart. enjoy your own smells and feel free to fart.. 

   the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more, (if I 
didn`t call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few friends are usually 
busy, so I see them only occasionally. 

  So who needs them. Get up in the morning if you feel like it or sleep in 
or loll about in your PJ or birthday suit. Don't brush your teeth if you don't 
feel like it. Don't waste money on phone calls. The telco doesnot need your 
support. If your kids don't call, it means they are ok. If they dropped dead, 
there is not a thing you can do. So eitherway no need to worry. Get a cat if 
you have to. 

I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have read 
the entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m rereading the 
entire set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the tube, or playing on this 
computer. Occasionally I go to a movie. I have been to three of them in the 
last 16 months.The only thing making me want to stick around are my little 
Pugs. (I call them my living Prozac!) 

  The last movie I saw was starwars 25 years ago. I don't miss them. What 
is on tv ? Lies, murder/mayhem and sex at the drop of a hat. Why would I want 
to watch someone else performing? 

   Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they were at 
the beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my back to clean their 
cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub the bottom trays and wires. So 
they get really dirty before I pluck up the courage to clean them. I`m putting 
an ad in for them today to sell them. sigh... 

  If you like birds that much put up a bird feeder, less work and constant 
activity. 

My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me. 

  Do you hear what you are saying? Your own body/mind needs you and you are 
looking outside. Take a lovely bubble bath...massage yourself...touch and feel 
all parts your body, sing a lullaboy to yourself, who cares what your voice 
sounds like, its YOURS and thats what is important. Get to know your body.Its a 
living temple. Enjoy the snow flakes and enjoy the sunshine. 

   So much for life. 
   and experince every moment of it. This moment is really all you have 
   Marshalee 

  Regards 
  hg. 


   

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RE: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

[epatai]

hahaha..you can't be serious...well what is this world coming too?



From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:31:46 -0700

It is the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital 
wars,

and dysplasia.

Genital wars?  Now that is serious.

-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

I just wanted to say that all Cancers are not caused by virus. Certain
Cancers, such as Lymphomas are caused by Virus. I did a lot of reading on
this because my husband had Hodgkin's Lymphoma. (Cancer of lymph) One of 
the
most widespread tumor formers is a very active virus called papilloma. It 
is

the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital wars, and
dysplasia. Endometriosis can be a papilloma virus, It can form brain and
anal tumors. There are several different Virus's that can form tumors.

Then, there are the Cancer Tumors that are caused by fungus. The hard tumor
is the fungus tumor. Prostrate Cancer is fungal.

I am not an expert on all this, but to fight Cancer it helps to know what 
is

causing the Cancer to form. I got this info in a book by Hanna Kroeger. She
has a test in there that you can do yourself to determine whether you have
the fungal Cancer of not. She says it will indicate Cancer, two years 
before

it is detectable to conventional tests. Instructions for anyone wanting to
try it as follows,-
 Take the first morning urine in a celluloid cup. (not foam cup) Cover it
with one layer of toilet paper and place in a dark place. In the evening
place it in refrigerator on the lowest shelf. The next morning pour out the
urine. Where air and urine touched, there will be a fatty waxy ring in the
cup if fungus cancer is present in your system.

According to most people in the natural field,-everyone with Cancer has
parasites.
Paula

- Original Message -
From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew member..


 I must disagree with you.cancer is a virusCS will kill the 
virus.

 Also, try getting his body alkaline as possible.
 Alternative cancer cure  talks about having alkaline body:
  http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_how_started.html

  Make your body alkaline:

 http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm

  The plums are considered a condiment for seasoning foods such as brown
 rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of  ketchup, or
mustard,
 hot sauce in its stead.  Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a
 plum to a whole.  They are not usually eaten alone.
 Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, 
and
 riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to 
digestion,
 stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and 
enhancing

 the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract.  If a
 persons digestive system is sensitive or compromised just one plum eaten
 alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an 
entire

 day.
 Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where
ume
 is usually

 translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It
has
 several organic acids

 with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of
 alkalizing the body.

 1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration 
in

 any fruit) of citric

 acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline 
minerals

 from other foods that

 would otherwise not be absorbed.

 2. Umeboshi itself contains high amounts of alkaline minerals (iron,
 calcium, potassium,

 manganese, etc.)

 3. Citric acid breaks down lactic acid produced metabolically in our 
blood

 and tissues.

 4. Umeboshi contains picric acid that stimulates and supports the
 detoxifying action of the

 liver.

 5. Umeboshi contains catechin acid which speeds peristaltic action in 
the

 intestines as

 well as the digestion of proteins.

 6. Umeboshi peel contains pectic acid which has a laxative effect.

 This information comes from the Kushi Institute.


http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp;jsessionid=F2C001CBD9983C96925ED2800
DB80ECD?nxtg=26450a1c050e-60BDABF18D0D369Fsearch=umeboshi+plum
 $12.88 for 7 oz.

 http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html  $49.  2.2lb 
tub


 http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50  2.2lb tub

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:40 PM
 Subject: Re: CSNew member..


 
  Dear Frank,
Sorry, but I don`t think CS can cure cancer. It sure is good at
stopping
  colds
  and flu, and other 

Re: CSvitamin c

[Carol Ann]

Thanks for the Shute references  Yes, you're probably on the right track.  Med 
personnel tend to abide by the sacrosanct FDA guidelines.  If I mention  Vit C 
in doses greater than 3 grams puts most of them into apoplexy. 

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: My research showed that 3000 iu is a safe dose.
I take 1000 iu.
My cardiologist disapproves, so I believe I'm on the right track.
Medical personnel seem to like 400 iu as a max.
My interest was peaked decades ago by reading about the Shute
brothers, Canadian Cardiologists, that healed many cases of heart
disease with E therapy.
They get no respect here in the US.
I DO recommend looking them up in the search engines.

As usual , this is what I  do and these are MY observations. YMMV!

  Chuck
_When the bird and the bird book disagree, believe the bird!




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RE: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

[David W Kenney]

I think I could write a book on this posting.
The confusion of the cause of cancer is in pleomorphism.
Pleomorphism was first brought forward in the late 1880's...then I
understand that Pasteur on his death bed admitted that pleomorphism was the
way things happened and that his germ theory was wrong.
I'm not sure about the accuracy of fungous vs viral cancers...but I do know
that according to Dr. Rife, they are one and the same...only in different
forms.  It has been found that there are 12 different pleomorphic forms of
the cancer virus.
I'm also not sure that CS will affect a cancer in progress.  If the report
previously posted from MIT is accurate then it probably won't.  This post
indicated that the virus enters the cell and attaches to the DNA at the same
position as CS does.  If the CS is attached, the virus can't attach...this
is called competitive inhibition.  If the virus is already attached then CS
may not do any good.
This is a good reason to be on a continual dosage of CS.  Keep all these
locations blocked with CS.  Then no Influenza, etc.
I think we have to go back to the drawing boards on this subject.  Still
much to do.  For example, when the virus replicates in the cell are these
new organisms now susceptible to the CS?

From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:31:46 -0700

It is the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital 
wars, and dysplasia.

Genital wars?  Now that is serious.

-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew member.. Cancer and Virus/Fungus

I just wanted to say that all Cancers are not caused by virus. Certain
Cancers, such as Lymphomas are caused by Virus. I did a lot of reading on
this because my husband had Hodgkin's Lymphoma. (Cancer of lymph) One of 
the most widespread tumor formers is a very active virus called papilloma.
It is the cause  of cervical tumors, breast tumors, lymphoma, genital wars,
and dysplasia. Endometriosis can be a papilloma virus, It can form brain and
anal tumors. There are several different Virus's that can form tumors.

Then, there are the Cancer Tumors that are caused by fungus. The hard tumor
is the fungus tumor. Prostrate Cancer is fungal.

I am not an expert on all this, but to fight Cancer it helps to know what 
Is causing the Cancer to form. I got this info in a book by Hanna Kroeger.
She has a test in there that you can do yourself to determine whether you
have the fungal Cancer of not. She says it will indicate Cancer, two years 
Before it is detectable to conventional tests. Instructions for anyone
wanting to try it as follows,-
  Take the first morning urine in a celluloid cup. (not foam cup) Cover it
with one layer of toilet paper and place in a dark place. In the evening
place it in refrigerator on the lowest shelf. The next morning pour out the
urine. Where air and urine touched, there will be a fatty waxy ring in the
cup if fungus cancer is present in your system.

According to most people in the natural field,-everyone with Cancer has
parasites. Paula

- Original Message -
From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew member..


  I must disagree with you.cancer is a virusCS will kill the 
virus.   Also, try getting his body alkaline as possible.
  Alternative cancer cure  talks about having alkaline body:
   http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_how_started.html
 
   Make your body alkaline:
 
  http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm
 
   The plums are considered a condiment for seasoning foods such as brown
  rice, salads etc.Americans would use the likes of  ketchup, or
mustard,
  hot sauce in its stead.  Generally, they are used sparingly, from half a
  plum to a whole.  They are not usually eaten alone.
  Umeboshi plums are fermented products that are high in iron, thiamin, 
and
  riboflavin. Like other fermented foods, they are beneficial to 
digestion,
  stimulating the secretion of digestive fluids in the stomach and 
enhancing
  the growth of healthy bacterial cultures in the intestinal tract.  If a
  persons digestive system is sensitive or compromised just one plum eaten
  alone has the potential to keep your intestines busy purging for an 
entire
  day.
  Umeboshi plum is a misnomer. The term umeboshi means dried ume, where
ume
  is usually
 
  translated as plum. But it is not a plum. It is a species of apricot. It
has
  several organic acids
 
  with medicinal effects, including the seemingly paradoxical effect of
  alkalizing the body.
 
  1. Umeboshi has a high concentration (perhaps the highest concentration 
in
  any fruit) of citric
 
  acid. Citric acid enables the small intestine to absorb alkaline 
minerals
  from other foods 

CSToxins

[Jonathan B. Britten]

In Kevin Kelly's very interesting book Out of Control, he mentions 
something that list members might care to know:


Participants in the Biosphere project, who lived in an artificial 
glass-domed earth for a few years, were carefully monitored in every 
way.  Doctors noted that as they lost weight -- a lot of weight -- due 
to troubles raising their own food, their blood tests began to show 
high levels of pesticides and other environmental toxins.   This was 
odd, because no such materials existed in the domes.


One researcher had pesticides that had been outlawed 20 years earlier.

The theory is that fat deposits held these toxins, which were released 
only when the body burned the fat as fuel.


Something to think about.   I wonder whether various regimens of 
detoxification take into account the problem of body fat.




JBB



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Re: CSliving or not

[rcaaawor]

I  have had back pain from doing what i should not be doing.Sometimes we 
push a muscle and nerve into a place where it does not belong,thus pain. If 
we can push that muscle and nerve back to the proper location we are ok.The 
trick is finding a message therapist that can analyze your back and where it 
is out of place and message that muscle/nerve to where it was before.I had 
one fellow God rest his soul ,he told me if he didnt help me in the first 
treatment ,not to come back.He healed me though i kept on throwing it out 
from my own stubborness of not listening  to how i should treat my body.Also 
karma teaches us to.Good luck
- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: CSliving or not



Marshalee,
Chronic backpain is no fun at all!
I've been there from back in my twenties.
I got QUICK relief using DMSO as a linament. I found it in a rollon
version to be the easiest to use. It's a healing treatment too.

Another supplement that gave good relief is MSM powder. I used a
heaping teaspoon of powdered but you can get capsules also.
It's very bitter. I dissolve in water, and chug it quickly.

Just passing it on...

Chuck
When the foolkiller comes around,
we'd better all hide in the high grass .

On 1/8/2006 5:51:43 AM, Marshalee Hallett (utahpug...@izikoo.com)
wrote:

Not much fun, though, being lonely, in pain, and bored stiffl
At least Harry Potter is fun!
I do try to share CS with all and sundry who will listen, and boy, that 
is

worthwhile!!




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Re: CSNew member..

[Bill Keen]

Frank,
   
  I didn't find an answer to your question so here I am.
   
  The correct spelling is argyria.  Is it bad?  Well, not really.  By that I 
mean that it isn't going to kill you, make you 'sick', or even hurt.  All it 
does is turn your skin into a kind of grey color.
   
  Now for the Rest-Of-The-Story:  CS can't cause argyria!  It takes much larger 
particles than are currently available using any of the methods/generators 
discussed on this site.  Generally it is caused by ingesting ground-up silver  
and not EIS.  There hasn't been one documented case of argyria from anyone 
using CS as it is made now.
   
  I have a friend who had Agent Orange Poisoning and managed to stay alive 
until they admitted to a cure by drinking 1 gallon of 30ppm CS every day.  He 
did not turn grey.
   
  You are certainly right in asking, just remember to read everything carefully.
   
  Best Wishes,
  Bill Keen 

Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote:
  i read something about argaria(spellt right?) and that
its bad

Re: CSToxins

[V]

Hi Jonathan,

there is one regimen that does take the body fat in to account and the way they 
work it is to gain and loose fat and continually replace the old fat with new 
clean fat.
http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html




Take care,
 V


 In Kevin Kelly's very interesting book Out of Control, he mentions 
 something that list members might care to know:

 Participants in the Biosphere project, who lived in an artificial 
 glass-domed earth for a few years, were carefully monitored in every 
 way.  Doctors noted that as they lost weight -- a lot of weight -- due 
 to troubles raising their own food, their blood tests began to show 
 high levels of pesticides and other environmental toxins.   This was 
 odd, because no such materials existed in the domes.

 One researcher had pesticides that had been outlawed 20 years earlier.

 The theory is that fat deposits held these toxins, which were released 
 only when the body burned the fat as fuel.

 Something to think about.   I wonder whether various regimens of 
 detoxification take into account the problem of body fat.



 JBB



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Re: CSliving or not

[Bill Keen]

See Marshalee, 
   
  Things are looking up already!
   
  Bill Keen

Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote:
   
Not much fun, though, being lonely, in pain, and bored stiffl 
  At least Harry Potter is fun!
  I do try to share CS with all and sundry who will listen, and boy, that is 
worthwhile!!
Marshalee
  PS, My son told me today he wants me to move closer to him so he can see me 
more often, that made my day!
  I`m trying now to find something, as the landlord here is a real sob.
  
 
Marshalee: 
   Celebrate your freedom and savour life as Marshalee not 
MRS.X or  xx's MoMMY  or xxs daughter. Atlast in your life you be what that 
little girl Marshalee wanted to be. 
Marshalee Hallett wrote:  
  It is much better on the other side.I`m ready to go now, at 53.I believe 
you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee -- but 53 is awful 
early to leave the party!  I hope that 2006 is a better year for you than 
you've obviously been having.MA Thanks for the kind thoughts, but I really 
don`t have much of a reason to remain here. Here`s why:I have no hubby, (he 
dumped me after 27 years of marriage for a woman 6 years older than he was, go 
figure!),   Good, you don't have to share the bed/blanket ot suffer the snores 
 smells of the old fart. enjoy your own smells and feel free to fart.. 
  
 the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more, (if I didn`t 
call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few friends are usually busy, so I 
see them only occasionally.   So who needs them. Get up in the morning if you 
feel like it or sleep in or loll about in your PJ or birthday suit. Don't brush 
your teeth if you don't feel like it. Don't waste money on phone calls. The 
telco doesnot need your support. If your kids don't call, it means they are ok. 
If they dropped dead, there is not a thing you can do. So eitherway no need to 
worry. Get a cat if you have to. 
  
  I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have read the 
entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m rereading the entire 
set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the tube, or playing on this computer. 
Occasionally I go to a movie. I have been to three of them in the last 16 
months.The only thing making me want to stick around are my little Pugs. (I 
call them my living Prozac!)   The last movie I saw was starwars 25 years ago. 
I don't miss them. What is on tv ? Lies, murder/mayhem and sex at the drop of a 
hat. Why would I want to watch someone else performing? 
  
 Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they were at the 
beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my back to clean their 
cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub the bottom trays and wires. So 
they get really dirty before I pluck up the courage to clean them. I`m putting 
an ad in for them today to sell them. sigh...   If you like birds that much put 
up a bird feeder, less work and constant activity. 
  
  My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me.   Do you hear 
what you are saying? Your own body/mind needs you and you are looking outside. 
Take a lovely bubble bath...massage yourself...touch and feel all parts your 
body, sing a lullaboy to yourself, who cares what your voice sounds like, its 
YOURS and thats what is important. Get to know your body.Its a living temple. 
Enjoy the snow flakes and enjoy the sunshine. 
  
 So much for life. 
 and experince every moment of it. This moment is really all you have 
 Marshalee   Regards 
hg. 
  
  
 


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Re: CSToxins

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Thanks, V San,

Members may wish to note that the link below is appealing because in 
includes three free printable  pdf. downloads.  One does not need to 
read the web page on the monitor.   That's easy on the eyes!


JBB


On Sunday, Jan 8, 2006, at 15:45 Asia/Tokyo, V wrote:


Hi Jonathan,

there is one regimen that does take the body fat in to account and the 
way they work it is to gain and loose fat and continually replace the 
old fat with new clean fat.

http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html




Take care,
 V



In Kevin Kelly's very interesting book Out of Control, he mentions
something that list members might care to know:



Participants in the Biosphere project, who lived in an artificial
glass-domed earth for a few years, were carefully monitored in every
way.  Doctors noted that as they lost weight -- a lot of weight -- due
to troubles raising their own food, their blood tests began to show
high levels of pesticides and other environmental toxins.   This was
odd, because no such materials existed in the domes.



One researcher had pesticides that had been outlawed 20 years earlier.



The theory is that fat deposits held these toxins, which were released
only when the body burned the fat as fuel.



Something to think about.   I wonder whether various regimens of
detoxification take into account the problem of body fat.





JBB





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CSMaximum Total PPM?

[alchemySA]

According to various lab tests on commercial and home-made CS, most 
electrically made CS is in the 10 to 25 TOTAL ppm range. TOTAL ppm is 
the sum of the IONIC (or dissolved) silver (roughly measurable with a 
TDS or EC meter) and the PARTICLE (or colloidal) silver thats visible 
with a laser but not measurable with any meter.


The proportion of ionic to particle ppm is usually about 90% ionic to 
10% particle give or take 5%.


But most of these tests have been done on nice clear CS because thats 
the stuff we are happy to drink and we can make it repeatedly without 
too much trouble.


(At around $700 for a full analysis with a particle size report its 
understandable that someone is only going to get a report on a product 
they can reliably reproduce)


But this seems to leave a gap in whats known about the actual maximum 
TOTAL ppm thats possible with, for example, a home brew system. If we 
ignore aspects such as color and light sensitivity, what TOTAL ppm can 
we really achieve?


The typical maximum IONIC ppm for a clear brew seems to be about 30. I 
understand theres a solubility limit involved here so its not something 
that can be played around with a whole lot. But can the particle PPM be 
raised by much?


I believe that once the ionic max is reached, the brew looses clarity 
and any additional dissolved ions immediately form compounds and either 
become increasingly large, or increasingly more abundant, colloids.


So my question  is, whats the maximum colloidal PARTICLE ppm thats 
possible over and above the ionic ppm? Is there a physical limit for 
that too?


David

CS

[alchemySA]

What would be the point? What are you suggesting Vince? That only 
ionic silver is effective and that particles are useless?  That could be 
true, I dont know. But I just feel I'm in the dark about what happens 
above 30uS.  Up til that point my EC meter gives me some idea what the 
ppm is, and numerous tests have have shown the particle content at this 
point in clear CS is about 10%. But above that point the EC is useless 
because the conductivity stalls. It might even go backwards. But the 
generator is still going. So whats happening to the particle ppm from 
that point onwards?  When we go out of the comfort zone of making clear, 
clean 15ppm CS, what are we making? When the CS starts to look a bit 
cloudy what proportion of these particles are pure silver and what 
proportion are compounds. How big are these particles? Or more 
importantly, how many small particles are there in amongst the big ones. 
Can you achieve a higher colloidal ppm with small particles than you can 
with big particles. Whats the ionic/particle ratio. Maybe its 50/50. As 
I said. All the published analysis has been done on good CS. No-one 
analyses the so-called crap. This type of CS doesnt seem to get 
discussed much, probably because no-one except Frank Key has the 
facilities to really test it. Maybe I wouldnt drink it but it could be 
great topically.


David



(Vince)

1,000,000 ppm would be the max particle ppm.  It would be one particle 
of pure silver with no water or anything else.  It would result from 
putting pure solid silver in a container with no other substance.  It 
would not be useful for our bodies.


On a much more serious note: what would be the point of increasing 
silver content by increasing particles and particle size?




(David)

According to various lab tests on commercial and home-made CS, most 
electrically made CS is in the 10 to 25 TOTAL ppm range. TOTAL ppm is 
the sum of the IONIC (or dissolved) silver (roughly measurable with a 
TDS or EC meter) and the PARTICLE (or colloidal) silver thats visible 
with a laser but not measurable with any meter.
The proportion of ionic to particle ppm is usually about 90% ionic to 
10% particle give or take 5%.
But most of these tests have been done on nice clear CS because thats 
the stuff we are happy to drink and we can make it repeatedly without 
too much trouble.
(At around $700 for a full analysis with a particle size report its 
understandable that someone is only going to get a report on a product 
they can reliably reproduce). But this seems to leave a gap in whats 
known about the actual maximum TOTAL ppm thats possible with, for 
example, a home brew system. If we ignore aspects such as color and 
light sensitivity, what TOTAL ppm can we really achieve? The typical 
maximum IONIC ppm for a clear brew seems to be about 30. I understand 
theres a solubility limit involved here so its not something that can be 
played around with a whole lot. But can the particle PPM be raised by much?
I believe that once the ionic max is reached, the brew looses clarity 
and any additional dissolved ions immediately form compounds and either 
become increasingly large, or increasingly more abundant, colloids.
So my question  is, whats the maximum colloidal PARTICLE ppm thats 
possible over and above the ionic ppm? Is there a physical limit for 
that too?


David

CS

[alchemySA]

Vince and Jodi

I'm not arguing that ionic is better than colloidal or vise versa 
because I'm happy to take both. And I dont want bigger particles because 
I'm sure that if particles are desirable, then the smaller the better. 
What I am asking is, what happens in a brew once the the max ionic ppm  
has been reached? Does the colloidal ppm/percentage keep increasing or 
is there a maximum that can be kept in suspension.


David




The point was, FWIW, more silver particles that are bigger and bigger in
water becomes less and less useful.  


My question was, why would we try and get a max ppm colloidal?

Vince
 


Jodi



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Subject:
Re: CSvitamin c
From:
cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date:
Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:38:20 +0100
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
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My research showed that 3000 iu is a safe dose.
I take 1000 iu.
My cardiologist disapproves, so I believe I'm on the right track.
Medical personnel seem to like 400 iu as a max.
My interest was peaked decades ago by reading about the Shute
brothers, Canadian Cardiologists, that healed many cases of heart
disease with E therapy.
They get no respect here in the US.
I DO recommend looking them up in the search engines.

As usual , this is what I  do and these are MY observations. YMMV!

Chuck
_When the bird and the bird book disagree, believe the bird!

On 1/8/2006 4:34:00 AM, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote:
 


Hi Chuck,
I know about Vit C megadoses. What amounts do you consider a Vitamin E
megadose.
   





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