CSUnidentified subject!

2006-06-26 Thread nathan cross

hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 
years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i have 
recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which has 
proven to be beneficial to them also.

i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available lab 
test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove (or 
disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i can find 
or  maybe i am just not looking in the right places.

Please let me know if you know of any.
the medical profession seems to have its head under a rock when it comes to 
the use of cs always giving the standard reply that it can cause argyria. 
which as far as i can tell is only associated with silver salts like silver 
nitrate and silver chloride. Maybe i am miss informed but to me these things 
seem to be arguements that could be laid to rest once and for all with some 
simple testing. It escapes me how the issue of wether or not cs works or if 
it has any side effects has never really been outlined in any official 
report.
may be i am wrong in what i am writing but i am looking for some good 
answers about cs some facts some proof by someone that has 'credit' among 
the medical profession.
i have all the proof i need to use it for my self daily but it just seems 
such a waste that i cant tell my neighbours ' here are the facts about cs.' 
instead i have to say 'well here is what somebody said is true about cs it 
may or may not be true youll just have to try it and see.' What a cop out, 
in a world that deals in nanotechnology and rocket science, gene 
manipulation and world wide cyber comunication, you wouldnt think it would 
be too hard to get some straight answers about what cs does or doesn't do. 
In my mind the benefits are astounding and maybe thats what they are afraid 
of, that it might replace some of the reliance we have on the beat up 
fanfare that the mecical establishment is today. roll up roll up come and 
get your drugs, but you cant stay here because we have no beds because 
everybodies sick, and getting sicker. oh and by the way watch out for the 
next superbug virus as you go out the door, because we cant treat that yet 
but as soon as we can, and we have patented the vacine, we will put it on 
your list of crap to take. at a small fee of course. have a nice day.
wouldnt it be nice if they used cs in hospitals even if it was just used as 
a topical application on patients with cuts, burns, wounds, or infected 
tissue, or for those recovering after surgery to reduce scarring. it would 
have to speed up some patients recovery by days if not weeks in some cases. 
freeing up some of that valuable bed space.
i wonder what they would do if you tried to apply it to a patient in a 
hospital ward probable throw you out, say its not proven to work, i dont 
know.

anyway i am tired of ranting.
seriously if anyone knows of some serious data either for or against the use 
of cs please point me in the right direction so i dont have anything to rave 
about anymore

thanks
ps sorry about taking up too much of your time.
the search goes on



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Re: CShodgkins and natural medicine

2006-06-26 Thread Paula Perry
Zeb,
He did tons of stuff! If your neighbor is doing chemo, if he doesn't do some of 
the natural he could end up with lung, heart damage or worse. One of the things 
my husband got and I had to beg for it was Low Dose Naltrexone (prescription 
from one of those formulary pharmacies) I can get you the info if he is 
interested. He did the Essiac tea every day, 2 or 3 times a day. I got the 
ingredients from www.mountainroseherbs.com. (organic) I can send you the recipe 
if he's interested. It is a pain to make but well worth the effort. Then he 
took at lot of supplements. To protect the heart you must take CoQ10.-100mg or 
more with some fish or flax oil (2 or 3 caps) natural vitamin E (d instead of 
dl or it's synthetic and do get the mixed) vitamin C with bioflavonoid (lots), 
selenium, enzymes Get a copy of Beating Cancer with Nutrition by Patrick 
Quillin and it will explain what to take and why. The supplements protect you 
from the damage of the chemo and also increase the cancer kill rate. The nurses 
at the hospital will tell your neighbor NOT to take any supplements and may 
convince him that it will interfere with the chemo. That is why it is important 
to get the book. Otherwise his heart muscle and lungs will get damaged and the 
chemo will not get it all either. Then they will want to give him radiation and 
after that a bone marrow transplant. 

Hodgkin's is caused by a virus so take CS. My husband took a lot of Kyolic 
garlic also. Other stuff too. Anti-virals. 

There are so many new thing out there now that fight Cancer. I find out new 
things all the time. Check out www.cancertutor.com, a fantastic resource. I 
have read good things about Poly-MVA and there are lots of other things too.

You really have to take care to clean-up your diet of all the junk and fast 
food and eat fruits and veggies. Juicing is great too. We did carrot, celery 
and apple juice. 

Most of all he has to be willing to do the work. Unfortunately, the majority 
will not do it until the mainstream doctors give up on them. Let me know if he 
decides to do natural and I'll try to help.
Paula
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  Subject: CShodgkins and natural medicine


  Paula would you mind sharing some of the natural things your husband did? My 
neighbor has just been diagnosed with this disease.
  Also, regarding the son with stomach problems, adding DGL to the slippery elm 
mix is also soothing and helpful. I use slippery elm alot with much success


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2006-06-26 Thread Stuff


All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:


hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 
5-6 years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate 
i have recomended it to my family and some close friends, 
hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also.

i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no 
available lab test results or definitive studies that have been 
undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits 
involved with its use, that i can find or  maybe i am just not 
looking in the right places.


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Re: CSHepatitis C and MRSA

2006-06-26 Thread Scott
I guess nobody knows anything about this?  Please remit.

Scott scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote:  I need some personal experience 
testimonies regarding the use of CS in curing/stopping these viral/bacterial 
infections.  Thanks.

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Re: CSNiacin

2006-06-26 Thread Teri Johnston
I want to thank everyone for their responses.  Yesterday Gary took 
the Targretin with breakfast and waited to take the niacin after 
lunch and he did fine and no flush with either the lunch or dinner 
dose of niacin.  So I feel that it was the drug compo at the same 
time that he had the reaction too.


T-Cell Lymphoma is a blood borne cancer that effects the skin 
primarily.  It causes plaques and intense itching.


Teri


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2006 #446

2006-06-26 Thread Greg Ball
I thought I would repeat my original question so it is not lost, as I am still 
looking for the answers. Here it is again - thanks all:

I'm being told that silver needs to be ingested apart from stuff like
salt, vit C, etc. I know you need pure water to make the silver so it
doesn't bond with these things, but do you need to keep it apart from
food and vits when you eat for the same reason?  I've read it's best to take it 
on an empty stomach, but thought that was because it would be more effective, 
not because it was bonding with other substances. I take ozone water first 
thing in the AM on an empty stomach, and then eat frequent small meals and many 
supplements throughout the day, so it's pretty impossible to find a time with 
an empty stomach. 

Also, does anyone know if silver will kill babesia which is a single cell 
parasite in the family of malaria? If so, how much of my silvergen made silver 
should I take for this?
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  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2006 #446



Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2006-06-26 Thread nathan cross
thanks for the links i was having trouble finding information about research 
that had been done




From: Stuff st...@laguna.com.mx
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:11:40 -0500


All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:


hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 
years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i 
have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which 
has proven to be beneficial to them also.

i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available 
lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove 
(or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i 
can find or  maybe i am just not looking in the right places.


[snip]


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RE: CSHepatitis C and MRSA

2006-06-26 Thread Dan Nave
Yes, CS/EIS works well against MRSA.  Was used effectively on a diabetic
with a kidney transplant (immune suppressed).
 
Can use orally and topically.  Definitely use topically if the infection
is accessible.  Keep it wet with CS pretty much constantly.  
DMSO 10 to 20% of total volume may be added to help the CS to penetrate
if necessary.  If using orally, ease into use slowly.
 
Dan
 
 



From: Scott [mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHepatitis C and MRSA


I guess nobody knows anything about this?  Please remit.

Scott scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: 

I need some personal experience testimonies regarding the use of
CS in curing/stopping these viral/bacterial infections.  Thanks.


In His Service,
Scott 



Re: CSCS mixed, malaria

2006-06-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
I agree the colloidal portion should not be affected.  The ionic portion
is not a problem with most things, for instance if it combines with
acetic acid (vinegar) , you get silver acetate, citric acid - silver
citrate, vitamin C - silver ascorbate and so forth.  Virtually all
compounds of silver become silver chloride when the reach the stomach,
which we already know gets absorbed over time into the blood stream and
believe convirts to particles.

Any problems will most likely be if you take it with something with free
sulfur compounds, like boiled eggs.  They will bind with silver ions and
produce silver sulfide, the same thing as tarnish on silverware.  That
unfortunately bind stronger than chlorine, and thus will be uneffected by
the stomach acid, and is also totally insolable.

So I would avoid mixing with foods that are high in sulfur.

Marshall

Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 Greg said,
  I'm being told that silver needs to be ingested
 apart from stuff like salt, vit C, etc. I know you
 need pure water to make the silver so it doesn't bond
 with these things, but do you need to keep it apart
 from food and vits when you eat for the same reason?
 I've read it's best to take it on an empty stomach,
 but thought that was because it would be more
 effective, not because it was bonding with other
 substances. 

 If this were true, it would not be good to cook with
 CS, which I do all the time. No one in my family ever
 takes CS straight. It is always added to food and
 drink. Considering that the stomach always contains a
 certain level of salts and acids, it doesn’t matter,
 IMO, how you take your CS. There is actually no such
 thing as an ‘empty stomach’, just less-full.

 Also, does anyone know if silver will kill babesia
 which is a single cell parasite in the family of
 malaria? If so, how much of my silvergen made silver
 should I take for this?

 The effectiveness of CS against malaria is
 well-documented. See:

 www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2003/24/c3100.html

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Re: CSMorgellon - suggesting to try marigold

2006-06-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have a person on the West Coast that is trying CS right now. You might
want to contact him.  If you do, contact me off list and I will forward
you his email address.

Marshall

Heidrun Beer wrote:

 I read on the net that the morgellon causing organism is
 probably a nematode-type worm.

 I have also read that the marigold flower is used by organic
 farmers to hold down nematodes in endangered cultures, for
 instance potatoes.

 I have nobody in my environment with the disease (the world
 map shows that Austria is free of it), but maybe somebody
 wants to try that old medical plant and see what happens?

 Heidrun Beer

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Re: CSnebulizing for mold

2006-06-26 Thread claire shaw

Nancy (or anyone),
Can you pls. elaborate on why oil products are a potential problem?
Claire
 
I would not nebulize any oil product that could go to the lung. I can forsee
a raging pneumonia that would be difficult to treat.
 
claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: 
Is there any problem with nebulizing Oil of Oregano, Tea tree oil or Xylitol
with CS? What else can/should be added?


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CSRe: Paul mold/fungus GSE

2006-06-26 Thread claire shaw
 
Paul wrote:
 Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in
the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg
empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with
each meal.
 You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal.

Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules
as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice?

 Claire


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Re: CSot, need rife list

2006-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
This warms my heart! A big GRIN to y'all for your helpfulness!

Be well!

Mike D.

 naturally i would get more help on this list in one hour than i have
 received on the other lists in 5 days.  maybe it is the CS that makes us
 such a reach out and touch someone list *grin*.
 
 am following up both leads...
 
 thank you for being here,
 
 rose
 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CSUnidentified subject!

2006-06-26 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Stuff,
Thank you for the good info you send to us seekers from time to time!
CheckASAP silver sourceand you'll find a company Biogenics who
went to Ghana W. Africa and passed their FDA and now can use the dirty
allopathic 4 letter word, CURE to describe their CS. They have millions of
 in contracts in Africa, S. America, C. America and the Far East. They
can claim that their CS cures Tuberculosis, Malaria, Hep A, B, C and
countless other health problems. At the present time, they are having CS
researched at BYU with excellent success. Let me know if I can be of more
help.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com





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From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!



All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:

hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for
5-6 years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate
i have recomended it to my family and some close friends,
hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also.
i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no
available lab test results or definitive studies that have been
undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits
involved with its use, that i can find or  maybe i am just not
looking in the right places.

[snip]


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CSSilver product claims

2006-06-26 Thread laquerencia33
Companies marketing these types of bandages apparently have no qualms  
about making claims.  I wonder if its because their claims don't involve  
'colloidal' silver.


http://www.elastoplast.ca/index.php?p=73lang=2

DByron





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CSColloidal Silver studies

2006-06-26 Thread Dan Nave
See instead:

AMERICAN BIOTECH LABS
ASAP Silver Solution

 http://lifesilver.com/links.htm

http://lifesilver.com/a_studies.pdf

http://lifesilver.com/brigham.pdf



-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject!

Hi Stuff,
Thank you for the good info you send to us seekers from time to time!
CheckASAP silver sourceand you'll find a company Biogenics who
went to Ghana W. Africa and passed their FDA and now can use the dirty
allopathic 4 letter word, CURE to describe their CS. They have millions
of  in contracts in Africa, S. America, C. America and the Far East.
They can claim that their CS cures Tuberculosis, Malaria, Hep A, B, C
and countless other health problems. At the present time, they are
having CS researched at BYU with excellent success. Let me know if I can
be of more help.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com





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From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!



All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:

hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for
5-6 years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i 
have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. 
Which has proven to be beneficial to them also.
i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available

lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to 
prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, 
that i can find or  maybe i am just not looking in the right places.

[snip]


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CSI'm back from my dental revision...

2006-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Hello everyone,

I'm back from Colorado where I had 11 amalgams replaced, plus 3 wisdom 
tooth agenesis sites cleaned out. 

It was pretty tiring, fitting in everything that had to happen, while 
simultaneously trying to sleep on one of the worst beds we've ever had 
in a hotel. sigh That said, the Huggins' people and the dentists and 
their staff did a superior job of keeping everything going and on 
schedule.

I've had no Eureka! moments post revision, but my jaw is settling 
down reasonably well and I'm satisfied with the quality of the 
dentistry.

Rosie was impressed with the individually tailored supplementation 
based on blood chemistry. We had a couple of very nice consultations 
with Dr. Huggins. It was helpful that Rose has similar training and I 
can at least keep up with what they're saying. So we were able to 
discuss things with him at a slightly more technical level than most 
people are able to.

Rosie's comment was that Huggins is solid on the things she knew 
anything about, and that his more speculative theories are at least as 
likely as anything else she's heard of. High praise indeed, from my in-
house skeptic and reality check. grin

We also had the chance to meet one of our members, Wendy, who was there 
for her dental revision with her husband and lovely children.

What lies ahead: Continue taking the suggested supplements and do 
follow up blood, urine and hair analyses at 3 and/or 6 months out; do 
cleanses of various sorts -- baths, saunas, C-flushes; wait and see how 
I feel as things normalize and stabilize.

I kept a fairly close eye on the list while on the road, thanks to 
Rosie's new laptop and the availability of broadband internet at nearly 
every hotel in the country these days. 

I missed a batch of messages early last week because the kids left my e-
mail program open here for a few extra hours, which downloaded a bunch 
of messages before I could see them on the mail server from the web 
interface I was trying to use. If anybody sent me anything I have not 
responded to, please get in touch with me again?

There are a couple of interesting bits of news from our experience that 
are relevant to CS, which I'll get to over the next few days.

I'll answer any questions, at least in brief. Thanks for keeping things 
well in hand while I was distracted. You make me proud. smile

Be well,

Mike Devour
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CSAnother CMO question...

2006-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Okay, I need some help from the assembled wise ones.

CMO:

What does it actually do? What does it effect in the body? By what 
mechanism? What effect does it have on blood counts and chemistry?

Where can I find the technical details behind the above?

Thanks,

Mike D.

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CSRe: new theory of Lymphoma

2006-06-26 Thread Jim Holmes
http://www.rense.com/general72/chemo.htm



Re: CSNiacin

2006-06-26 Thread Duncan Crow

Teri, the T-cell lymphoma may respond rather well to blood 
electrification, glutathione increasers and 4Life Transfer 
Factor.  I have mostly anecdotes and some Russian clinical 
studies on the Transfer Factor Enhanced, which has since been 
improved; mostly clinical work on the cold-processed whey as a 
glutathione increaser used on cancer; mostly anecdotal on the 
Beck therapy -- lots of anecdotes though, just like for silver.

Duncan

 I want to thank everyone for their responses.  Yesterday Gary took the
 Targretin with breakfast and waited to take the niacin after lunch and
 he did fine and no flush with either the lunch or dinner dose of
 niacin.  So I feel that it was the drug compo at the same time that he
 had the reaction too.
 
 T-Cell Lymphoma is a blood borne cancer that effects the skin 
 primarily.  It causes plaques and intense itching.
 
 Teri




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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Thank you, Terry. That is incredibly sad news. I'm crying.

He never quite approved of how loosely I let the list run, but he 
always had time to assist the earnest newcomer.

Ole Bob? You'll be missed, mister. I hope you knew that.

Mike D.

 Folks:
 I just received this from Bob Berger's email address:
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home. 
 He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some
 time.  I know you all share my sorrow and had a deep
 regard for Bob and his work.
 
 I won't be keeping this email address.  Thank you for
 your communications with Bob.  They were a big part of
 his life.
 
 Audrey Berger

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Re: CSRe: Paul mold/fungus GSE

2006-06-26 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
I agree with Paul.  My wife has cured bronchitis twice with this same product.  
Tried colloidal silver for it, and it could not cure her bronchitis, even with 
the gatorade added.

However, I was able to fit about 35 drops of GSE per capsule.  I recommended 
this to a person once for sinus issues and she had a bad allergic reaction, so 
I suggest trying out a couple of small sample doses first to make sure you dont 
have any allergic reaction to GSE.  My wife also broke out in bad hives when 
she had 3 pills at once instead of spread throughout the day, and I had to give 
her benadryl to calm the hives down.  If you have no allergies though, it does 
indeed seem to be a powerful antifungal agent.

-Ken Bagwell


claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote:  
Paul wrote:
 Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in
the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg
empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with
each meal.
 You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal.

Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules
as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice?

 Claire


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Re: CS Alert on GSE

2006-06-26 Thread Ole Alstrup
http://www.toddcaldecott.com/GSE.html

Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I agree with Paul.  My wife has cured bronchitis twice with this same 
product.  Tried colloidal silver for it, and it could not cure her bronchitis, 
even with the gatorade added.

However, I was able to fit about 35 drops of GSE per capsule.  I recommended 
this to a person once for sinus issues and she had a bad allergic reaction, so 
I suggest trying out a couple of small sample doses first to make sure you dont 
have any allergic reaction to GSE.  My wife also broke out in bad hives when 
she had 3 pills at once instead of spread throughout the day, and I had to give 
her benadryl to calm the hives down.  If you have no allergies though, it does 
indeed seem to be a powerful antifungal agent.

-Ken Bagwell


claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote:  
Paul wrote:
Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in
the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg
empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with
each meal.
You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal.

Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules
as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice?

Claire


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CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Folks:
I just received this from Bob Berger's email address:

Dear Friends,
 
Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home. 
He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some
time.  I know you all share my sorrow and had a deep
regard for Bob and his work.
 
I won't be keeping this email address.  Thank you for
your communications with Bob.  They were a big part of
his life.
 
Audrey Berger

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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Sandee George
Wow - what a shock - thanks for passing this one along Terry
I appreciate knowing this happened - 
Regards
Sandee

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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Marmar845
Is this Ole Bob?   MA


RE: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread epatai

My condolences:(

Ernie



From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBob Berger has passed away
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT)

Folks:
I just received this from Bob Berger's email address:

Dear Friends,

Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home.
He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some
time.  I know you all share my sorrow and had a deep
regard for Bob and his work.

I won't be keeping this email address.  Thank you for
your communications with Bob.  They were a big part of
his life.

Audrey Berger

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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Rich Adams

http://www.legacy.com/KansasCity/DeathNotices.asp?Page=LifeStoryPersonID=18209120

Rest In Peace my friend.

Rich Adams


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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread tom chick
I wish i would have had the chance to have met him in person. We have lost 
another one of the Good Guy's



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Re: CSRe: Paul mold/fungus GSE

2006-06-26 Thread Paul Fisher
Hi Claire,
The effect will be the same. Just get 20 drops in you at a time.
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:14 AM
Subject: CSRe: Paul mold/fungus GSE



Paul wrote:
 Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in
the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg
empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with
each meal.
 You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal.

Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules
as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice?

 Claire


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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Teri Johnston

Rich,

I know how close you were.  Thanks for the link.  He really will be missed.

Teri


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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread mborgert
THANKS FOR PASSING THIS ALONG.  HE WILL BE MISSED!!!
 -- Original message --
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
 Wow - what a shock - thanks for passing this one along Terry
 I appreciate knowing this happened - 
 Regards
 Sandee
 
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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Sandee George
Thanks for the link Rich - I went and visited - he will be missed
greatly by us all for his unending, open help at all times.
Regards
Sandee

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RE: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Carol Ann
His posts were teriffic as was his sense of humor and obvious dedication to 
(CS) and the friends he obviously made over the years.  Consolences to the list.

epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: My condolences:(

Ernie


From: Terry Chamberlin 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBob Berger has passed away
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT)

Folks:
I just received this from Bob Berger's email address:

Dear Friends,

Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home.
He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some
time.  I know you all share my sorrow and had a deep
regard for Bob and his work.

I won't be keeping this email address.  Thank you for
your communications with Bob.  They were a big part of
his life.

Audrey Berger

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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread starshar

From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:14 PM


http://www.legacy.com/KansasCity/DeathNotices.asp?Page=LifeStoryPersonID=18209120

Rest In Peace my friend.

Rich Adams


Thank you, Rich, for posting this link. Even though we on this list never 
met Ole Bob in person, this still gives us closure.

This world has lost another fine human being.

Sharon 



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Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?

2006-06-26 Thread Nancy Mike
I have been taking up to 20 oz. of CS orally for over 6 years.  I have never 
had a problem with my digestion.If you read the study done by Roger Altman. 
 You will see that most of the CS is eliminated through the feces and does not 
go through your digestive system. 
This web site will prove that CS will NOT build up anywhere in your body:   
http://www.silvermedicine.org/AltmanStudy.pdf  
   Original Message - 
  From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 12:11 AM
  Subject: Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?



  There seems to be alot of dispute on cs killing all bacteria good and bad in 
the intestinal tract so until there is an agreement on the subject I am playing 
it safe and just getting it into the blood stream via under the tonguedebbie
-- Original message -- 
From: Nancy  Mike nancym...@delisefamily.com 

Why would you spit it out?
  - Original Message - 
  From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?



  I hold mine in my mouth under my tongue for as long as I can. It goes 
directly into the blood stream.  Then spit it out..debbie
-- Original message -- 
From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com 

Hi all,

I'm being told that silver needs to be ingested apart from stuff like
salt, vit C, etc. I know you need pure water to make the silver so it
doesn't bond with these things, but do you need to keep it apart from
food and vits when you eat for the same reason?  I've read it's best to 
take it on an empty stomach, but thought that was because it would be more 
effective, not because it was bonding with other substances. I take ozone water 
first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, and then eat frequent small meals 
and many supplements throughout the day, so it's pretty impossible to find a 
time with an empty stomach. 

Also, does anyone know if silver will kill babesia which is a single 
cell parasite in the family of malaria? If so, how much of my silvergen made 
silver should I take for this?


 


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CSCancer alternative treatments

2006-06-26 Thread SJY
Dee,

Do you know about this site?  http://www.cancertutor.com/




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Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?

2006-06-26 Thread Maryau Jeune

Nancy  Mike wrote:
I have been taking up to 20 oz. of CS orally for over 6 years.  I have 
never had a problem with my digestion.If you read the study done 
by Roger Altman.  You will see that most of the CS is eliminated 
through the feces and does not go through your digestive system. 
This web site will prove that CS will NOT build up anywhere in your 
body:   http://www.silvermedicine.org/AltmanStudy.pdf
But if it is eliminated through the feces, it would have to go through 
the digestive system first to end up 'down there', no?


RE: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread Jim Holmes
Damn.

He was vital and dynamic till the very last.  I'll see you later, friend. 

-Original Message-
From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBob Berger has passed away

Folks:
I just received this from Bob Berger's email address:

Dear Friends,
 
Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home. 
He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some time.  I know you all
share my sorrow and had a deep regard for Bob and his work.
 
I won't be keeping this email address.  Thank you for your communications
with Bob.  They were a big part of his life.
 
Audrey Berger

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RE: CS Alert on GSE

2006-06-26 Thread Jim Holmes
Ole,

 

Thank you for this important information.  I was just about to try the
stuff. 

 

Jim

 

From: Ole Alstrup [mailto:alst...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 3:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Alert on GSE

 

http://www.toddcaldecott.com/GSE.html

Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote:

I agree with Paul.  My wife has cured bronchitis twice with this same
product.  Tried colloidal silver for it, and it could not cure her
bronchitis, even with the gatorade added.

However, I was able to fit about 35 drops of GSE per capsule.  I recommended
this to a person once for sinus issues and she had a bad allergic reaction,
so I suggest trying out a couple of small sample doses first to make sure
you dont have any allergic reaction to GSE.  My wife also broke out in bad
hives when she had 3 pills at once instead of spread throughout the day, and
I had to give her benadryl to calm the hives down.  If you have no allergies
though, it does indeed seem to be a powerful antifungal agent.

-Ken Bagwell


claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: 


Paul wrote:
Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in
the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg
empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with
each meal.
You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal.

Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules
as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice?

Claire


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RE: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?

2006-06-26 Thread Jim Holmes
CS is eliminated through the feces and does not go through your digestive
system.

 

Can you rephrase that? 

 

From: Nancy  Mike [mailto:nancym...@delisefamily.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:41 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?

 

I have been taking up to 20 oz. of CS orally for over 6 years.  I have never
had a problem with my digestion.If you read the study done by Roger
Altman.  You will see that most of the CS is eliminated through the feces
and does not go through your digestive system. 

This web site will prove that CS will NOT build up anywhere in your body:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/AltmanStudy.pdf  

 Original Message - 

From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 12:11 AM

Subject: Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?

 

 

There seems to be alot of dispute on cs killing all bacteria good and bad in
the intestinal tract so until there is an agreement on the subject I am
playing it safe and just getting it into the blood stream via under the
tonguedebbie

-- Original message -- 
From: Nancy  Mike nancym...@delisefamily.com 

Why would you spit it out?

- Original Message - 

From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:40 AM

Subject: Re: CSConsuming silver with food/vits?

 

 

I hold mine in my mouth under my tongue for as long as I can. It goes
directly into the blood stream.  Then spit it out..debbie

-- Original message -- 
From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com 

Hi all,

 

I'm being told that silver needs to be ingested apart from stuff like
salt, vit C, etc. I know you need pure water to make the silver so it
doesn't bond with these things, but do you need to keep it apart from
food and vits when you eat for the same reason?  I've read it's best to take
it on an empty stomach, but thought that was because it would be more
effective, not because it was bonding with other substances. I take ozone
water first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, and then eat frequent small
meals and many supplements throughout the day, so it's pretty impossible to
find a time with an empty stomach. 

 

Also, does anyone know if silver will kill babesia which is a single cell
parasite in the family of malaria? If so, how much of my silvergen made
silver should I take for this?

 


 

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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread cking001


Way to go Bob,

You were a mentor not only in our CS/EIS research, but also in living
a longevity lifestyle to take note of.
A mental acuity at an advanced age that is to be envied along with an
active lifestyle.
Thanks for finishing your book.
Thanks for not giving up on us.
Thanks for the help.

Heck, thanks for finally using a spellchecker...

Good job, Bob, we'll be seeing ya, eventually.
Godspeed...

Chuck

Good friends are hard to find, harder to leave, and
impossible to forget.


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:

Folks:
I just received this from Bob Berger's email address:

Dear Friends,
 
Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home. 
He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some
time.  I know you all share my sorrow and had a deep
regard for Bob and his work.
 
I won't be keeping this email address.  Thank you for
your communications with Bob.  They were a big part of
his life.
 
Audrey Berger




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RE: CSColloidal Silver studies

2006-06-26 Thread nathan cross

hi again. Nathan here.

thanks for the ASAP links this information is gold (theres a joke there 
soimewhere)

real companies with real stats doing real work
very heartening to see.
and probably worth investing in if their beginning to take off.



From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSColloidal Silver studies
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:26:35 -0500

See instead:

AMERICAN BIOTECH LABS
ASAP Silver Solution

 http://lifesilver.com/links.htm

http://lifesilver.com/a_studies.pdf

http://lifesilver.com/brigham.pdf



-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CSUnidentified subject!

Hi Stuff,
Thank you for the good info you send to us seekers from time to time!
CheckASAP silver sourceand you'll find a company Biogenics who
went to Ghana W. Africa and passed their FDA and now can use the dirty
allopathic 4 letter word, CURE to describe their CS. They have millions
of  in contracts in Africa, S. America, C. America and the Far East.
They can claim that their CS cures Tuberculosis, Malaria, Hep A, B, C
and countless other health problems. At the present time, they are
having CS researched at BYU with excellent success. Let me know if I can
be of more help.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com





-Original Message-
From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!



All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:

hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for
5-6 years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i
have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly.
Which has proven to be beneficial to them also.
i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available

lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to
prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use,
that i can find or  maybe i am just not looking in the right places.

[snip]


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Re: CSBob Berger has passed away

2006-06-26 Thread epatai

Double Damn! me either.

Ernie



From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBob Berger has passed away
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:59:11 -5

Chuck writes:
 Thanks for finishing your book.

Damn. That reminds me. I never got around to ordering one. sigh

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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