date:20061122

 
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

 %   The brains of corpses are often found to contain concentrations 
 of silver.  The silver tends to concentrate in damaged nerve tissue and is 
 used as a stain for such studies, for that reason.
   That's not to say that the silver caused the damage. [or that silver 
 helped in any way ]

Hi Ode!  Thanks for that.  Interesting.  Wish I could afford to have my EPM 
horse carefully examined when he dies.  I'd have every inch of his spinal cord 
analyzed to see if silver was found in the areas of protozoal damage.  We know 
that the silver reaches and kills the protozoa, because the horses have a 
Herxheimer reaction, then begin to recover.  The problem is that we're not 
getting everything killed -- because the horse can appear to be cured, then a 
year or two later (and sometimes sooner) will relapse.  And we know we're not 
seeing reinfection.  So, we wonder if protozoal larvae encyst themselves 
somehow  where they're bypassed by the silver, and then go on to mature and 
re-emerge to do more damage.  It's a frustrating disease.  We see relapses in 
late Spring, with the advent of warm weather.  There's a certain type of worm 
that horses commonly have that has this  type of life cycle.  It's extremely 
difficult to kill off that encysted worm larvae, and when they re-emerge they 
do a tremendous amount of damage to the gut walls.  I speculate that the 
protozoal larvae have a similar life cycle.  Sadly, mainstream veterinary care 
has a lower success rate with EPM horses than we CS-users do.  Their main 
treatments are for thirty days, and thirty days later the horses are relapsing. 
 And most horse owners can't afford another go-round at $600 to $1,100 per 
month.  Those horses either die or are put down.  We, at least, can fire up the 
CS-maker and have another go -- for as long as we need to.MA



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Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups

2006-11-22 Thread Marshall Dudley


Ode Coyote wrote:

At 04:05 PM 11/20/2006 -0500, you wrote:



 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

  But it also usually does not pass through the blood brain
 barrier from what I can read, and if that is the case, once rabies 
gets

 to the brain, the CS will not get to it.

##Sorry -- but I've had just the opposite information and 
experience.  Colloidal Silver does pass through the blood brain 
barrier -- which is exactly why we've been successful treating our 
EPM horses with CS.  By the time that we realize that the horse is 
sick with EPM, the protozoa have crossed the blood brain barrier and 
are populating the neurological cells of the spinal cord.  CS does 
kill these protozoa -- with evidence of a die-off resulting in the 
horse becoming sicker before they get better.  So, perhaps this would 
be the case with rabies as well.  MA



%   The brains of corpses are often found to contain 
concentrations of silver.  The silver tends to concentrate in damaged 
nerve tissue and is used as a stain for such studies, for that reason.
 That's not to say that the silver caused the damage. [or that 
silver helped in any way ]


ode



Do yo have a cite on this (the accumulation in corpses, I know about the 
staining).


Thanks,

Marshall


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Re: CSLocate a Alternative med. dr.

2006-11-22 Thread Smitty


Deborah:
I googled  *alternative medicine doctors in South Africa*
and found one:
http://www.doctorsforlifeinternational.com/
You might GOOGLE search for more.



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CSto sol -brain tumor

2006-11-22 Thread Paula Perry

sol, 
check-out PolyMVA for your friend with the brain tumor. 
Paula

Re: CSRe: CSpups

2006-11-22 Thread Marshall Dudley


marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
  

From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net



  
%   The brains of corpses are often found to contain concentrations 
of silver.  The silver tends to concentrate in damaged nerve tissue and is 
used as a stain for such studies, for that reason.
  That's not to say that the silver caused the damage. [or that silver 
helped in any way ]



Hi Ode!  Thanks for that.  Interesting.  Wish I could afford to have my EPM 
horse carefully examined when he dies.  I'd have every inch of his spinal cord 
analyzed to see if silver was found in the areas of protozoal damage.  We know 
that the silver reaches and kills the protozoa, because the horses have a 
Herxheimer reaction, then begin to recover.  The problem is that we're not 
getting everything killed -- because the horse can appear to be cured, then a 
year or two later (and sometimes sooner) will relapse.  And we know we're not 
seeing reinfection.  So, we wonder if protozoal larvae encyst themselves 
somehow  where they're bypassed by the silver, and then go on to mature and 
re-emerge to do more damage.  It's a frustrating disease.  We see relapses in 
late Spring, with the advent of warm weather.  There's a certain type of worm 
that horses commonly have that has this  type of life cycle.  It's extremely 
difficult to kill off that encysted worm larvae, and when they re-em!
  
There are a number of places where pathogens can hide from silver. I 
think the best known ones are the nerve ganglia, the cartilages, and the 
lymph system.  Some of these are better penetrated by ozonated water and 
zapping. And the rest can be gotten to by magnetic pulsing, at least for 
a human.  However even those that hide in nerve ganglia can eventually 
be gotten to by silver it seems, since I cured my  herpes 1 (fever 
blisters) with silver years ago, although it took several years of 
taking an ounce or two a day.
 erge they do a tremendous amount of damage to the gut walls.  I speculate that the protozoal larvae have a similar life cycle.  Sadly, mainstream veterinary care has a lower success rate with EPM horses than we CS-users do.  Their main treatments are for thirty days, and thirty days later the horses are relapsing.  And most horse owners can't afford another go-round at $600 to $1,100 per month.  Those horses either die or are put down.  We, at least, can fire up the CS-maker and have another go -- for as long as we need to.   
Why don't you simply keep CS in their drinking water all the time?  That 
should prevent any relapses.


Marshall
 MA




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Re: CSCS generator

2006-11-22 Thread Mark S. Siepak

I don't understand why you electronics gadget guys insist on making such a
complicated unit! Three 9v batteries, two jumpers, two silver electrodes,
and a quart jar. So you have to watch it, so what? Brew cs while doing
laundry or watching TV, reading, etc. After a few tries, you will have some
idea of when to check it so it doesn't turn yellow (which really doesn't
matter, anyway, and I also have no earthly idea why you folks think it
does). The whole idea is to get someone who is curious about CS started, so
they can begin to see the benefits!

Sure, once they are convinced of the benefits of CS, if they want to they
can 'go electronic', but I never have - I use old 9v batteries from the
smoke detectors that get changed every year, that would otherwise be thrown
away. Also from r/c remotes that no longer have enough range to control the
vehicle (bad to get your r/c boat too far out on the pond, then realize it
isn't responding any more, and going toward the spillway!!)

Mark
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world, nor even that it is a reasonable one. The commonest kind of trouble
is that it is nearly reasonable, but not quite. Life is not an illogicality,
yet it is a trap for logicians. It looks just a little more mathematical and
regular than it is; its' exactitude is obvious; but its' inexactitude is
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Re: CSCS generator

2006-11-22 Thread Kirsteen Wright


On 11/22/06, Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote:


I don't understand why you electronics gadget guys insist on making such a
complicated unit! Three 9v batteries, two jumpers, two silver electrodes,
and a quart jar.



Well I've got my batteries and silver wire. will pick up crocodile clips
tomorrow but am finding it impossible to get distilled water. I've tried
pharmacies, garages, brewing suppliers and everybody looks at me blankly. I
can get 'purified water' from the pharmacy but I've no idea what it is. they
say it's sterile but not distilled. I can get distilled water on the
internet but the postage is obviously quite a lot. Where do people get
theirs?   What sort of shop. I'm in UK.

Also I know this may be a stupid question but I'd rather sound stupid than
remain ignorant. How do I know when the batteries need changing. How long do
they last?

Many thanks for all the help

Kirsteen

Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done

Re: CSCS generator

2006-11-22 Thread Barb Radle

I also use the 9v batters, Does your cs when finished appear cloudy 
sometimes mine even appears gray in color.

   Barb
- Original Message - 
From: Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: CSCS generator

I don't understand why you electronics gadget guys insist on making such a
complicated unit! Three 9v batteries, two jumpers, two silver electrodes,
and a quart jar. So you have to watch it, so what? Brew cs while doing
laundry or watching TV, reading, etc. After a few tries, you will have 
some

idea of when to check it so it doesn't turn yellow (which really doesn't
matter, anyway, and I also have no earthly idea why you folks think it
does). The whole idea is to get someone who is curious about CS started, 
so

they can begin to see the benefits!

Sure, once they are convinced of the benefits of CS, if they want to they
can 'go electronic', but I never have - I use old 9v batteries from the
smoke detectors that get changed every year, that would otherwise be 
thrown
away. Also from r/c remotes that no longer have enough range to control 
the

vehicle (bad to get your r/c boat too far out on the pond, then realize it
isn't responding any more, and going toward the spillway!!)

Mark
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The real trouble with this world of ours is not that it is an unreaonable
world, nor even that it is a reasonable one. The commonest kind of trouble
is that it is nearly reasonable, but not quite. Life is not an 
illogicality,
yet it is a trap for logicians. It looks just a little more mathematical 
and

regular than it is; its' exactitude is obvious; but its' inexactitude is
hidden, its' wildness lies in wait  --G. K.  Chesterton
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CSRe: Re: CSCS generator

2006-11-22 Thread Smitty


Kirsteen:
My friend who lives in Weston-Super-Mare, England says:

In England, it's called De-ionized water and comes from the Chemist..

Smitty


On 11/22/06, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote:




On 11/22/06, Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote:
 I don't understand why you electronics gadget guys insist on making such a
 complicated unit! Three 9v batteries, two jumpers, two silver electrodes,
 and a quart jar.


Well I've got my batteries and silver wire. will pick up crocodile clips
tomorrow but am finding it impossible to get distilled water. I've tried
pharmacies, garages, brewing suppliers and everybody looks at me blankly. I
can get 'purified water' from the pharmacy but I've no idea what it is. they
say it's sterile but not distilled. I can get distilled water on the
internet but the postage is obviously quite a lot. Where do people get
theirs?   What sort of shop. I'm in UK.

Also I know this may be a stupid question but I'd rather sound stupid than
remain ignorant. How do I know when the batteries need changing. How long do
they last?

Many thanks for all the help

Kirsteen

 Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done




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CStechnical question

2006-11-22 Thread Peter M. Stellas

My power supply generates 30 volts DC at 0.400 milliamps. If I were to
substantially increase the surface area of the electrodes, would that alone
serve to decrease the current between the then available electrode area??

 

Peter

Re: CSRe: Re: CSCS generator

2006-11-22 Thread Kirsteen Wright


On 11/22/06, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:


Kirsteen:
My friend who lives in Weston-Super-Mare, England says:

In England, it's called De-ionized water and comes from the Chemist..



Thank You. Tomorrow I'll go and ask for that. Is that the same as purified
water do you know.

Thanks
Kirsteen



Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done

RE: CStechnical question

2006-11-22 Thread Dan Nave

Increasing the surface area of the electrodes would *decrease* the
effective *resistance* between the electrodes which would *increase* the
*current* between them, all other things being equal (electrode spacing,
voltage, type and amount of water remaining the same in both examples).
Hopefully, your power supply has the capacity to supply the increased
current and your CS brewing would proceed at a faster rate.   
 
Moving the electrodes closer together will also increase the current.
 
You may have to add stirring at some point if the currents get too high.
 
Is that what you were asking about?
 
Dan



From: Peter M. Stellas [mailto:stel...@foxinternet.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CStechnical question



My power supply generates 30 volts DC at 0.400 milliamps. If I were to
substantially increase the surface area of the electrodes, would that
alone serve to decrease the current between the then available electrode
area??

 

Peter

CSRe: RE: CStechnical question

2006-11-22 Thread Smitty


#
What does stirring do to CS during a brew ?

Smitty



On 11/22/06, Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote:



Increasing the surface area of the electrodes would *decrease* the effective
*resistance* between the electrodes which would *increase* the *current*
between them, all other things being equal (electrode spacing, voltage, type
and amount of water remaining the same in both examples).  Hopefully, your
power supply has the capacity to supply the increased current and your CS
brewing would proceed at a faster rate.

Moving the electrodes closer together will also increase the current.

You may have to add stirring at some point if the currents get too high.

Is that what you were asking about?

Dan

 
 From: Peter M. Stellas [mailto:stel...@foxinternet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CStechnical question





My power supply generates 30 volts DC at 0.400 milliamps. If I were to
substantially increase the surface area of the electrodes, would that alone
serve to decrease the current between the then available electrode area??




Peter





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CSMedical, biocide research may open new markets for silver


Medical, biocide research may open new markets for silver:
http://www.mineweb.net/gold_silver/453427.htm

Mineweb Wed, 22 Nov 2006 1:47 AM PST
RENO, NV (Mineweb.com) --New research into silver’s medical and antibacterial 
properties may mean good news for silver miners, who are hoping for yet another 
consumer application for their product. 






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Re: CSpups Blood-Brain barrier

From what you read- is there a particle size limitation to the blood 
brain barrier that blocks the CS?

Ron


Marshall Dudley wrote:


CHERYL HOLMES wrote:




Doesn't CS kill rabies?  I've used it in animal rescue for years and 
have seen it kill distemper and more/  I use it straight no water 
added in their water dishes when I know they've come from the pound, 
are looking ill or are illI use it in my water and my dogs water 
dishes too.. as an additive. 


Yes it does. But it also usually does not pass through the blood brain 
barrier from what I can read, and if that is the case, once rabies 
gets to the brain, the CS will not get to it.


Marshall


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Re: CSLED therapy CANCER


Another respected site for natural  approach to handling CANCER
http://www.beating-cancer-gently.com/
His archives are full of valuable information.

Ron

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Peter M. Stellas wrote:


I am not V, but have spent considerable time on another site which follows
the Johanna Budwig Protocol. Dr. Budwig was a 7 times Nobel Prize nominee
and cured hundreds of patients with a 95% success rate. There are
testimonies in books, written by established clinics and doctors who agreed
that her formula did, in fact, cure the patients. If you are interested go
to:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/ and you can follow that
thread as far as you want to.

Peter


-Original Message-
From: G  K Murray [mailto:kg...@sasktel.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:52 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLED therapy

Hi V,

I hear you are the person to talk with about LED lights.  My cousin has 
an LED belt which che used for a couple of years over her abdomen-liver 
area.  She found out in June that she has pancreatic cancer. 

 







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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/index.html However,  their 
shopping cart is not operational.


This site has it though  http://www.hartamerica.com
[ http://www.hartamerica.com/ASAP%20Silver%20Solution.htm ]
Ron

Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

 Hi everyone,

 can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
 i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
 as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs 
time

 i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
 aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

 in the cs community.

 i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him 
to get a
 clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

 cs use,
 any suggestions would be appreciated

 thanks alot
 Nathan







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CSgood pictures of a cheap cs generator

2006-11-22 Thread david

Actually that pic is off my site.  http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/ 
FREE-DIY.html  But I also explain that the electrodes should be off  
the bottom of the jar and that its not good CS because the white  
cloudy look of the water indicates that its just tap water, not  
distilled water.


By the way.. This is the first time I've ever seen any picture  
actually appear in a silverlist digest. Has something changed recently?


David


On 23/11/2006, at 2:59 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:




silver-digest Digest




From: CHERYL HOLMES cherylhol...@sbcglobal.net
Date: 22 November 2006 3:30:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSgood pictures of a cheap cs generator




need 2 jumper wires..this pic from ebay



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Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups





I agree with MA - 
The CS is so small it has tremendous impact on one-celled "type"
organisms [bacterium and virii] as the CS can slip into cells and "be"
toxic to virii or bacteria that has invaded the cell. But I'm not
aware of any impact good or bad on multi-celled organisms large masses,
[tumours]etc. that are growing due to some other defect of, or in, the
body. 
I don't know that all tumors are encapsulated based on what I've
learned through experiences with our dogs and the treatment of their
cancers. Encapsulation is preferred or even ideal though as this means
the body is attempting to prevent it's spread.
Someone more knowledgeable may have to respond to that point.
Ron


marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:

   
  
  
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

  
  
  
  
So EIS might actually be  helpful for a parietal lobe brain tumor in a 
human? A very good friend of mine has just been diagnosed, don't know 
yet if the tumor is malignant or not.

  
  
## Hi Sol.  See -- this is what's confusing to me.  I don't see how Colloidal Silver can affect a tumor.  First of all, most tumors are encapsulated -- so how would the CS even reach what it needs to?  Second, silver is effective against viral, bacterial and protozoal cells.  Are tumors any of these?  Are the cells of a tumor actually comprised of these?  I don't think they are -- I think the cells are abnormally growing *normal* cells.  It's the abnormal growth that makes a tumor a tumor.  So what's there to be killed?  I dunno.  There are smarter people than me here on the list -- maybe someone else will know better.  I hope your friends tumor is not malignant.  MA

  








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Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups

I've never heard of CS causing a injured or misbehaving cell to revert 
back to a stem cell.

Can you direct me to sites, articles, studies, etc. that  support that?
Ron

Marshall Dudley wrote:

marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: 



SNIP
silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to 
stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types.  
This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does 
not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like 
warts do).






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Re: CSUnidentified subject!


Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of.
http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6


Ron



Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

 Hi everyone,

 can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
 i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
 as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a 
halfs time

 i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
 aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

 in the cs community.

 i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him 
to get a
 clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

 cs use,
 any suggestions would be appreciated

 thanks alot
 Nathan







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CSCS generator

Mark, this is exactly what I'm doing right now.  Exactly like you said and per 
the pictures I posted in the last digest.  I bought the jumper wires just like 
they're shown at Radio Shack today...24 long with attached alligator clips, 
part number 278-1157. package says Insulated Test Jumper Leads, qty of 8 for 
$5.49!  Plugged my 3 9 volt batteries together, connected the other end of the 
wires as shown, attached the silver rods to the other end, suspended in a 24 oz 
mason jar (which had spaghetti sauce in it a long time ago).  I set my timer 
for 1 hour and that's it.  Sometimes I let it go longer for a stronger CS,  
Many people can even use the timer on their microwave ovens if they don't have 
a cooking timer.  It's so easy and I thought I would have to spend big bucks!
   
  The last generator I had ran on 3 9volt batteries too...I have so many extra 
jumper wires, I'll be setting up my sisters with their owen CS generators too 
for Xmas!
  This is great!  Thanks to Faith for getting me started and got me checking 
out alternatives to expensive units which I couldn't afford anyway.  This is 
working beautifully!.

Cheryl

CSKirsteen, distilled water



I get mine at Walmart for 64 cents per gallon.  It's also called PURIFIED 
WATER.  In fact that's what mine says...there is DRINKING WATER, SPRING WATER, 
AND PURIFIED WATER.  You want PURIFIED WATER. It's the same as distilled.  My 
Texas grovcery store sells it too under DISTILLED WATER for the same 
price.Cheryl

CSRE CS Distilled water

2006-11-22 Thread Harold MacDonald

I gave up trying to get DW that was consistent,so I bought a good 
distiller.I also use the water for all potable uses,and the better taste and 
purity of it is well worth the price.Also, by now I have more than saved the 
cost of it,besides not having the nuisance of shopping and chasing around 
looking for good DW.
Harold 




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CStissue regeneration

2006-11-22 Thread Timspice

Does anyone here know how to figure out how to apply silver current to a  
tumor? How much current? How far appart do you apply the silver wires,etc.How  
long to saturate the tissue? My girlfriend has a tumor right where they took 
out 
 a wisdom tooth( a year ago). Do you think this is a good idea?   Tim  D

CSBarb cloudy CS



Are you straining it?  It should be clear to a yellow or golden color.  I use 
ordinary coffee filters doubled to strain mine through.  You should also be 
using the purest silver rods you can get.  Sometimes if they're not as pure, 
you'll get off color CS.  That's happened to me before...cheryl

Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups

2006-11-22 Thread V

Hi Ronald,

here is some info on that.

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
http://www.theledman.net/

 I've never heard of CS causing a injured or misbehaving cell to revert
 back to a stem cell.
 Can you direct me to sites, articles, studies, etc. that  support that?
 Ron

 Marshall Dudley wrote:

 marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: 


 SNIP
 silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to 
 stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types.  
 This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does
 not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like 
 warts do).





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CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups

Hi Ron.  All tumors are NOT encapsulated.  My father's terminal colon cancer 
was described by his doctor as a *coating* that invaded virtually his entire 
abdominal cavity.  As you said, encapsulated tumors are what one hopes for in 
an otherwise grim situation.   MA



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CScs generator questions

2006-11-22 Thread bs clayton

Also I know this may be a stupid question but I'd
rather sound stupid than remain ignorant. How do I
know when the batteries need changing. How long do
they last?
Many thanks for all the help.Kirsteen

There are no stupid questions. A Voltmeter reads
volts, but a multimeter is so much more useful. The
batteries last  a long time. I don't know how long. I
have not run out yet.  

So if you get a multimeter you can keep track of many
parameters of this process, which I like to do. Mine
cost about 30 dollars, and can measure Volts, Ohms,
and Amperes, among other things. You would want one
that can measure amps down to a few milliamps, so you
can check your current strength. If you have fun with
this, you can get a variable resistor (mine was cheap,
under a dollar, I forget how much) in the correct
range, and can set it to keep the current under a set
level, which you can measure with the multimeter
gadget. It just gets attached in series with the wires
with the clips on the ends, and if you have the meter
hooked up in series also, you can read what is going
on. It is really fun.

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RE: CStechnical question

2006-11-22 Thread Peter M. Stellas

Dan,

 

Thanks for that response. What I am about to construct is the following
experimental generator. The cathode will be a piece of stainless steel
tubing that will sit on a nylon base inside the glass container. This base
will center the tube in the glass jar and support it at three points, in an
elevated position so that water can circulate under it. The glass jar will
sit on the inverted can/night light heater described elsewhere. Thus the
heated water in the center will flow up the immersed s/s tube and flow over
it, flowing downward against the colder glass surface.

 

At a distance of about 1.5  away from the inside or outside surface of the
s/s tube, I will position four, long, U-shaped 12 gauge silver electrodes,
at positions 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock with respect to the circumference of
the s/s tube as viewed from the top. This will provide a lot of silver
surface for the anode and a lot of s/s surface for the cathode. From here I
need some help from the experts on how to select diodes, resistors, etc, and
how to mount them in the circuitry to provide regulated current at the
suggested 0.002 amps. Ken suggested a 20KOhm resistor, but did not mention
the watt rating. I am assuming that the watt rating of the resistor is the
peak wattage that the dc generator can put out, i.e 12 watts for a 30 vdc
and 0.400 amp output. In this case I can find a 50 watt, 20K Ohm resistor
for my application. 

 

Does it make any difference how the resistor is hooked up, meaning which
side the power enters and which side it exits? I am sure that it makes a
difference in diodes. Amazingly, no one at the electronics supply store that
I visited knew anything about circuitry. Real professionals!

 

Peter

Re: CSGot the Lyme bug

2006-11-22 Thread Raini Sage

Thanks Dave, I will try that method. 
I actually woke up with chicken pox this morning. My son, who had been 
vaccinated years ago has had the virus for about 2 weeks now. I have never had 
the virus but have been exposed when I was younger. There seems to be a 
stronger strain going around. Anyway, I now have 2 reasons to make sure I get 
plenty of cs.
~Hanan


 [Original Message]
 From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: 11/19/2006 12:10:35 PM
 Subject: CS[Fwd: Re: CSGot the Lyme bug]

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: CSGot the Lyme bug
 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:38:18 -0800
 From: Dave ddar...@centurytel.net
 To: rainis...@earthlink.net
 References: 380-22006110195649...@earthlink.net

 I found that it is more important to dose often than to take a lot at
 once.
 I had Lyme for 42 years, long before it was known, and had to figure
 out what I had on the Internet.
 I took 2 Oz. every 30 minutes and killed it in three days. I then
 told the Doctor that couldn't figure out what was wrong, what I did. He
 then tested me for Lyme and found that I did in fact have it. Or should
 I say had it.
 Here lately while traveling I was bitten by about 59 Ticks of all
 descriptions and so they ( the Doctors ) tested me for Lyme as a
 precaution and the test came back negative.
 I would say that was proof positive that CS had killed it previously.
 Hope this helps
 Dave

RE: CScs generator questions

2006-11-22 Thread Peter M. Stellas

Kathryn,

What is the rating of your variable resistor? If I can have that description
I can search to find one.  Thank you

Peter
 

-Original Message-


There are no stupid questions. A Voltmeter reads
volts, but a multimeter is so much more useful. The
batteries last  a long time. I don't know how long. I
have not run out yet.  

So if you get a multimeter you can keep track of many
parameters of this process, which I like to do. Mine
cost about 30 dollars, and can measure Volts, Ohms,
and Amperes, among other things. You would want one
that can measure amps down to a few milliamps, so you
can check your current strength. If you have fun with
this, you can get a variable resistor (mine was cheap,
under a dollar, I forget how much) in the correct
range, and can set it to keep the current under a set
level, which you can measure with the multimeter
gadget. It just gets attached in series with the wires
with the clips on the ends, and if you have the meter
hooked up in series also, you can read what is going
on. It is really fun.

Kathryn


 


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Re: CSLocate a Alternative med. dr.

2006-11-22 Thread Deborah Gerard

duh...I did it for the states but didn't even think to do it for 
Africa...thanks so much debbie

Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:  Deborah:
I googled *alternative medicine doctors in South Africa*
and found one:
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Re: CStechnical question

2006-11-22 Thread Dan Nave

Watts are calculated by the formula:

Watts = Voltage * Current

(current is in amps for this formula)

You say you have 30 volts and .002 amps (ie; 2 milliamps) so you multiply these together and get .06
watts. So, you can basically use any resistor you can get your hands on since the smallest axial
lead resistors are generally .25 watts (ie; 1/4 watt). In other words, use a 1/4 or 1/2 watt resistor.

Resistors don't have any polarity requirement. They can be connected either
way.

Using Ohm's law (current=voltage/resistance), with 30 volts and 20,000 ohms you will have 1.5
milliamps (ie; .0015 amps). Actually, you will have less current since there will be the added
resistance of the distilled water in the cell. (Resistances in series add together)
I might use a 10,000 ohm resistor myself but there is no problem with the larger resistor, it will
just take longer to brew.

Since you have DC volts, you don't need a diode unless you are talking about the so-called current
regulating diode to regulate the current. If you are using the current regulating diode you
don't have to use the resistor since the diode will change it's resistance to keep the current at
the preset level. It will work better than the resistor in that the brewing process will be faster
than in a cell regulated by a resistor. The proper polarity must be used with the current
regulating diode.

Also, the silver MUST be connected to the positive (+) battery terminal. The other electrode can be
stainless steel which should be connected to the negative (-) battery terminal. Everything should
be connected in series (ie; in single file, so to speak...). A current meter would also be
connected in series. A voltmeter would be connected in parallel, across any part to read the
voltage drop across that part. If you connect a voltmeter (set for reading volts) in series, it
will block the current.

Dan

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* To: * silver-list@eskimo.com
* Subject: * RE: CStechnical question

Dan,

Thanks for that response. What I am about to construct is the following
experimental generator. The cathode will be a piece of stainless steel
tubing that will sit on a nylon base inside the glass container. This
base will center the tube in the glass jar and support it at three
points, in an elevated position so that water can circulate under it.
The glass jar will sit on the inverted can/night light heater described
elsewhere. Thus the heated water in the center will flow up the immersed
s/s tube and flow over it, flowing downward against the colder glass
surface.

At a distance of about 1.5 “ away from the inside or outside surface of
the s/s tube, I will position four, long, U-shaped 12 gauge silver
electrodes, at positions 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock with respect to the
circumference of the s/s tube as viewed from the top. This will provide
a lot of silver surface for the anode and a lot of s/s surface for the
cathode. From here I need some help from the experts on how to select
diodes, resistors, etc, and how to mount them in the circuitry to
provide regulated current at the suggested 0.002 amps. Ken suggested a
20KOhm resistor, but did not mention the watt rating. I am assuming that
the watt rating of the resistor is the peak wattage that the dc
generator can put out, i.e 12 watts for a 30 vdc and 0.400 amp output.
In this case I can find a 50 watt, 20K Ohm resistor for my application.

Does it make any difference how the resistor is hooked up, meaning which
side the power enters and which side it exits? I am sure that it makes a
difference in diodes. Amazingly, no one at the electronics supply store
that I visited knew anything about circuitry. Real professionals!

Peter

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Re: CStechnical question

2006-11-22 Thread Dan Nave



Stirring spreads out the silver ions into the whole volume of water so they don't clump up on the 
electrodes or join together to make large particles.  This seems to make better CS and wastes less 
silver.  As a general rule, you can use larger currents and brew a higher concentration CS using 
stirring.


Dan


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CSDavid, Barb, Harold, Kirsteen

David, I looked at your site and it wasn't the site I took the pictures off of. 
 I didn't see the pictures I used on your site either...hum...but my 
eyesight isn't too great either.  I was only using the picture because it is 
very clear and easy to see the setup.
   
  Barb, I use distilled/purified water making my CS, then strain it using 
several regular coffee filters into another clear glass jar(mason jar, no lid). 
 I store it in what they call non reactive brown 16 oz. plastic bottles that 
I buy at Walgreen's Pharmacy for cheap.  They're the same bottles someone would 
get liquid medicine in.  I have some amber glass bottles I also use to keep it 
in.  I keep some in a 2 oz. amber glass bottle with an eye dropper on it for 
eyes, ears or hard to reach places on me and my poochies!
   
  I also like the fact Harold makes his own DW!  Maybe 1 day I will do that too 
if I can afford too and if I have the brains to figure out how to do it too!  
Sounds intriguing!
   
  Kirsteen, as for how long batteries last, if you use a lot of CS like I do, I 
get about 1 month out of mine.  But then I'm making it for 6 dogs and 3 people 
presently...(Family and pets).  If I were to only make it for myself and no one 
else, the batteries would likely last many months.  I can tell when I need new 
ones when the CS doesn't end up looking like it usually does for me.  Tonights 
was a nice clear to yellow color which is what I shoot for. 
   
  I'm fairly new to this list, but have been making CS for many, many years 
using an inexpensive generator I purchased from James Allsion in the beginning. 
 I have used it and made it for animal rescuers and rescue animals.  I love it! 
 
   
  I use CS in our pet's drinking water and none of our pets have ever been HW 
positive in any way!  Though I can't prove it is a HW preventative, it seems to 
be.
   
  How interesting all of you are!  What a great list!  Thank you for helping 
all of us learn and expand our knowledge!  Cheryl

CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups

 
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

 Tumors, expecially cancer,  have blood vessels inside of them, if they 
 didn't they would die. The CS simply is in the blood.  Are you thinking 
 of a cyst?

## Hi Marshall.  No, I'm not thinking of a cyst.  We're talking tumors 
here.  And I'm aware that tumors develop their own blood vessel system.

 There are many types of tumors.  Some are cancerous and some are not.  
 Those that are cancerous are often if not usually caused by viruses. 

## It appears to be a fact that *some* cancers are caused by viruses.
 
 But it doesn't matter, silver causes cells that are injured or 
 misbehaving to revert back to stem cells, and then redifferentiate back 
 to the proper cell types.  This I believe is what when CS gets rid of 
 cancer often the tumor does not die, it simply changes back to what it 
 suppose to be (just like warts do).

## If I understand you correctly, you believe that Colloidal Silver can 
cure cancer.  Personally, I think this is a stretch.   And I think we need to 
be very careful making claims like this.  Even here on this list where we have 
a group of very open-minded people, there are surely newcomers who are just 
beginning to accept the possibility that CS can cure external infections, and 
colds, etc.  Claims that it can cure cancer could send them running.   

 Not sure what you mean by that. They (tumors) are often infected with 
 viruses. 

## Is this a matter of semantics?  Tumors can be caused by viruses -- but 
the tumor itself is not *infected* with a virus.  

 They often are infected by viruses.

### Again -- can be caused by a virus.
 
 If they were normal, they would not be abnormally growing.

## Granted.  But it's the growth factor that is the abnormality.
 
 There is killed, and there is healed.  CS kills viruses, which are 
 controlling the DNA, and it heals damaged DNA by getting it to revert 
 back to stem cells.

## I can see where that could occur in a wound where CS has direct access 
to tissue that is already trying to repair itself.  But the physiology of a 
tumor is different.  The tumor itself, and the cells within it, cloak 
themselves with the tissue of normal cells.  That's why the body's own immune 
system does not attack a tumor -- it doesn't recognize it as a threat.  That's 
also why Laetrile is effective as a cancer treatment -- it strips the cloaking 
away, leaving the malignant cells exposed for the immune system to recognize 
and deal with.  I don't see how Colloidal Silver would recognize and alter what 
the immune system cannot.  But that's simply my opinion which is offered as a 
response, and is not intended to be antagonistic in any way.  MA



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