CS>What is EIS? (for Barb)

[M. G. Devour]

Welcome Barb! Thank you for asking.

EIS stands for Electrically Isolated Silver, a term that was originated 
by a member of the group some time in the last few years in an attempt 
to distinguish what we here *mean* when we talk about "CS." 

The term colloidal silver is so generic at this point that it is 
applied indiscriminately to almost any kind of silver preparation 
regardless of how it is made or its characteristics. Everything from 
chemical precipitates to suspensions of silver powder in protein gels 
are often referred to by the same name, CS.

The kind of product supported by the general consensus of the members 
here is made by electrolysis of silver in pure water. There are no 
additives or anything to deliberately bind to the silver, thus the 
"Isolated." Made this way the true particulate fraction can be 
relatively minor compared to the ionic, or truly dissolved, portion, 
thus the de-emphasis of "colloidal."

How do I say this... hmmm? For purposes of discussion here EIS is 
pretty much interchangeable with "CS," although with a bit more 
precision to its definition. Elsewhere, you might or might not find 
people familiar with the term at all, yet! 

Be well,

Mike D.

> Hello Lovers . I enjoy this forum so much and I want to thank you
> all for sharing.
> 
>   Would someone please be so kind as to explain  what EIS means and what
>   is its relationship to CS.
> 
>   Thank you
>   Barb H.

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Re: CS>Rosacea

[M. G. Devour]

> I was also taking CS by mouth, but it didn't seem to do anything to
> diminish the Rosacea.  I was using my homemade low constant current EIS
> product - about 12 PPM.  The antibiotic was the thing that was most
> effective in eradicating the Rosacea.

Thank you, Steven. That is insteresting.

Mike D.


> - Original Message - 
> From: "M. G. Devour" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Rosacea
> 
> 
> > Steve Y. writes:
> > > I had it also.  I tried pads soaked in CS on my face, and it helped
> > > only a little.  As a result of a visit to a dermatologist, it went
> > > into remission as I took small doses of a prescribed, inexpensive
> > > antibiotic.
> > >  I was able to taper the doses down each week, and eventually only
> > > needed one capsule a week, then nothing.  A dermatologist can tell
> > > you which antibiotic will be effective, and you can choose either
> > > the type that should be taken with meals, or the type that should be
> > > taken between meals.
> >
> > Which makes me wonder if routine CS consumption would work similarly
> > to the antibiotic. Were you taking CS by mouth at that time, Steven?
> > What kind of CS did you try?
> >
> > Be well,
> >
> > Mike D.
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CS>Earth grounding your body

[ccdirectt]

I stumbled across this last night.
Theres 2 audio interviews on this site you can listen
to.

http://www.sleepingearthed.com/index.html
Heres some of the stuff its suppose to help.

# Reduction of inflammation
# Normalization of cortisol levels
# Improved sleep
# Lessened stress and irritability
# Decreased pain
# Improved flexibility
# Hastened muscle recovery following exertion
# Neutralization of free radicals to a far greater
degree than is attainable with antioxidant
supplements.
It also protects you from EMF.


 

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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2006 #770

[Bob Bob]

Hello Lovers . I enjoy this forum so much and I want to thank you all for 
sharing.
   
  Would someone please be so kind as to explain  what EIS means and what is its 
relationship to CS.
   
  Thank you
  Barb H.


<>
  4] Manual mode [Bypasses the Auto off circuits telling the generator to 
ignore the turn off command ] Used to make EIS as strong as you like or 
use "bad" water in a pinch.

Input: Virtually any power source between 10 and 30 volts, AC or DC will 
work and the EIS comes out the same. You'd be hard pressed to not be able 
to make CS if any electricity at all is available. Even very low voltages 
will make EIS, but the auto off won't work if the output voltage is lower 
than the turn off reference voltage. [It turns itself off and manual mode 
must be used]

Differences in prices between any generator makers have little to do with 
function and product quality.

Ode




   
   

 
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Re: CS>CS mixed with animal feed

[marmar845]

 
> From: Terry Chamberlin 

> My mink farmer friend is currently mixing CS with his
> animal feed, hoping to see an improvement in his
> animals health. When I receive a report from him, good
> or bad, I will post it.

** Thanks Terry -- I'll appreciate it.   MA


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CS>Re: CS for EPM Horses

[marmar845]

> From: Marshall Dudley 
  
> I did answer it, did it not make it out to anyone?

** Hi Marshall.  It didn't make it to my inbox.  :-(MA 


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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

[Todd Paddock]

Thanks Ode,
I did pretty much understand, but could have not expressed it nearly as 
well.

Thanks Todd



From: Ode Coyote 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:00:59 -0500

  OK  Biting:

 The Pups have a number of modes available, accessed by operating two 
switches.


1] DC output mode.  [Straight conventional current controlled DC output.]
 Advantages: Works faster, enhances unstable properties of very fresh CS 
that may have antioxidant and oxygenating effects through free hydroxyl 
anions [Alkaline water?] and enhanced germ killing with free silver ions 
there 'before ' they find each other and form stabilized CS [EIS]
 Disadvantages:  More electrode deposits that 'can' grow over time and 
make a feedback loop that throws auto off..off. Very large batches take a 
long time and those problems are accentuated, sometimes needing an 
electrode wipe off.


2] SWAP output mode [Square Wave Alternating Polarity current controlled 
output]  Same as DC mode except the electrodes electronically switch 
positions every 1 1/2 minutes.
 Advantages:  Eliminates electrode crud buildup.  Enables a higher 
probability that very high PPM batches will be successful and nice.
 Disadvantages:  Takes longer to get to the same place and time is 
somewhat less predictable.
Also tends to make more highly particulate EIS..good if you like a strong 
TE, not so good if you don't...and the EIS is slightly more stable at 
finish.


Note:  Using the funnel thingie as a stir enhancer [chimney] on the Thermal 
stirrers, stabilizes the EIS as it's being made.  Good/Bad ?  A matter of 
personal opinion.  It does come out stronger at the Auto Off conductivity 
setting.  Conductivity and PPM are not quite the same things all the time.


3] Auto off mode [Works in both DC and SWAP output modes] References 
voltage on the electrodes with the conductivity of the water and the 
generator turns itself off at a given "PPM" [actually a given conductivity] 
Also gives a reference point from which to use a timer to predict PPM in 
higher than Auto Off regulated batches. [The Auto Off setting is hard wired 
for reliability and not user adjustable.  If you want weaker EIS, stop 
sooner or dilute it afterwards]


4] Manual mode [Bypasses the Auto off circuits telling the generator to 
ignore the turn off command ]   Used to make EIS as strong as you like or 
use "bad" water in a pinch.


Input:  Virtually any power source between 10 and 30 volts, AC or DC will 
work and the EIS comes out the same.  You'd be hard pressed to not be able 
to make CS if any electricity at all is available.  Even very low voltages 
will make EIS, but the auto off won't work if the output voltage is lower 
than the turn off reference voltage. [It turns itself off and manual mode 
must be used]


 Differences in prices between any generator makers have little to do with 
function and product quality.


Ode



At 04:01 PM 11/29/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Sorry just a typo.  I've been very happy with my puppy but had better let 
Ode explain the difference in settings.

Todd



From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:02:07 -0600

Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein




From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 
5-6 hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But 
other than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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Re: CS>Tongue cancer / Map of the Tongue

[Tony Moody]

Hi V,
Posting direct to you 'cos my chirps do not usually get through to the lists.
Try this for a start. I'm interested to know what else you find about tongue 
diagnosis.

http://beyondwellbeing.com/
Beyond Well Being Tongue Diagnosis
"This form allows you to learn from the appearance of the tongue based on 
traditional 
Chinese medicine diagnostics."

All best,
Tony

On 29 Nov 2006 at 20:33, vwol...@aol.com wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Tongue cancer / Map of the T

> In a message dated 11/29/2006 7:43:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> p...@zoomnet.net writes:
> In chinese medicine, the tongue is used to diagnose ailments from kidney 
> disfunction to liver failure to hormone deficiencyexcess.  
> Do you know of a site that has a map of the tongue...I came across one once 
> and could never find it again...V
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CS>CS mixed with animal feed

[Terry Chamberlin]

MA said,
>..is there anyone else on the list who knows anything
about sulphur, and to a lesser degree protein, binding
to CS particles and rendering CS ineffective when
mixed with feed? <

My mink farmer friend is currently mixing CS with his
animal feed, hoping to see an improvement in his
animals health. When I receive a report from him, good
or bad, I will post it.

Terry Chamberlin


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Re: CS>Duncan on kefir -Ruth

[Tel Tofflemire]

--- Day Sutton  wrote:

> Ruth I have been making and using Kefir for about
> two years.   I also
> use it with the flax
> seed oil as per Johanna Budwig.  Just as
> maintenance.   the term Kefir
> Grains is misleading to many, because it sounds like
> it might be oats
> or corn.   Dom has the best information on Kefir I
> have found.
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html


I agree, 
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
Is a long and factual web page on Kefir..
I have been making and using Kefir for ten years or
more. 

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey AZ

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Re: CS>Tongue cancer / Map of the Tongue/Dan:)

[Vwolf21]

In a message dated 11/30/2006 11:35:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com writes:
FWIW 

http://www.chinesemedicinesampler.com/diagtongue.html


http://www.jcm.co.uk/product.php?catID=454&opener=0-196-454&productID=1846&d=5
not cheap...

http://beyondwellbeing.com/herbs/tongue-diagnosis.shtml
this site has interesting references/pictures of tongue diagnosis for several 
conditions.

Dan
These are very good sites...one and three have been very helpful...I put them 
in my Favorites so I  can go to them when I need them...just what I needed to 
get some info on my system.

By the way...doing number three site...the evaluation...on the money.  Thanks 
again..V.

CS>Fw: CS>CS:> Kefir in Canada

[Harold MacDonald]

Here is a re-post of 29/11/2006 re Kefir.I got my grains from 
www.kefirlady.com  and I'm in Canada;no problem.


- Original Message - 
From: "Harold MacDonald" 

To: "Silver Post" 

Subject: CS>CS:> Kefir


I have been making Kefir for approx.8 months now and am satisfied with it.I 
got my grains from this site;

http://www.kefirlady.com
marilynj...@gmail.com






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CS>Re: milk substitutes

[bs clayton]

I also like almond milk on occassion, but mostly I
drink Rice Dream. I use soymilk for baking, as the
protein in it holds up much better in cakes etc, and I
use no eggs or dairy. I really don't like drinking
soymilk, but it works in cooking.

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CS>How To Culture Kefir

[SMax]

Ruth and anyone interested in Kefir Culture Instructions. 
 
I just posted the above subject info at silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
 
Okie Dokie.
Have a Kefir Kind of a Day.
Sasha Max 
 
 


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Re: CS>Budwig diet revision- inulin

[bs clayton]

from Wikipedia:

Inulin is indigestible by the human enzymes ptyalin
and amylase, which are designed to digest starch. As a
result, inulin passes through much of the digestive
system intact. It is only in the colon that bacteria
metabolise inulin, with the release of significant
quantities of carbon dioxide and/or methane.
Inulin-containing foods can be rather gassy,
particularly for those unaccustomed to inulin, and
these foods should be consumed in moderation at first.
However, given some time, most people can adapt to
consuming fairly high levels of inulin without side
effects.

Inulin is not broken down into simple sugars
(monosaccharides) by normal digestion, so it does not
elevate blood sugar levels, hence, helping diabetics
regulate blood sugar levels.


Inulin is also a highly effective prebiotic,
stimulating the growth of beneficial probiotic
bacteria in the gut. As mentioned, inulin passes
through the stomach and duodenum undigested and is
highly available to the gut bacterial flora. This
contrasts with proprietary probiotic formulations
based on yogurt or milk in which the bacteria have to
survive very challenging conditions through the
gastrointestinal tract before they are able to
colonize the gut.


Some traditional diets contain up to 20g per day of
inulin or oligofructose. Many foods naturally high in
inulin or oligofructose, such as chicory, garlic, and
leek, have been seen as "stimulants of good health"
for centuries (Full study of PubMed 10395609).

Inulin can be found in commerically available products
such as Fibersure from the Makers of Metamucil.
Fibersure is a fiber supplement powder that can be
added to foods or beverages without changing the taste
or texture. It performs well in cooking and baking
applications and can be an easy way to add additional
fiber to the diet through foods and drinks.


Inulin is also used in medical tests to measure the
total amount of extracellular volume and determine the
function of the kidneys ([Reference: MedlinePlus Drug
Information
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202300.html])

Natural sources of inulin


Plants that contain high concentrations of inulin
include:

Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale)

Wild Yam (Dioscorea spp.)

Jerusalem artichokes (Helianthus tuberosus)

Chicory (Cichorium intybus)

Jicama (Pachyrhizus erosus)

Burdock (Arctium lappa)

Onion (Allium cepa)

Garlic (Allium sativum)

Agave (Agave spp


 

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Re: CS> CS & DMSO:COMMENT

[mborgert]

DEAR BROOKS,
I LOVE ALL OF YOUR POSTS, THIS ONE ABOUT MAGNESIUM IS ESPECIALLY INTERESTING.  
I HAVE READ MOST EVERYTHING I CAN ON THE INTERNET ABOUT THIS AMAZING MINERAL.  
QUESTION.  ARE THERE BETTER SITES OR IS THERE  DISCUSSION GROUP ON MAGNESIUM???

I STARTED GETTING INTERESTED IN MAGNESIUM AS MY MOTHER WHO IS 94, WAS HAVING 
CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL 2 WEEKS IN A ROW ALMOST DYING BOTH 
TIMES.  I STARTED TO RESEARCH IS FOR MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, UNCLES,AUNTS, AND 
FATHER-IN-LAW ALL HAVE DIED OF THIS.  I NOW HAVE MY MOTHER SOAK HER HANDS IN 
EPSOM SALTS 3X DAILY, IN HOT WATER, 20 MINUTES EACH TIME.  YOU SHOULD SEE THE 
DIFFERANCE IN HER, NO MORE CONFUSION, DIZZINESS,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE,SHE HAS 
REMARKABLE ENERGY ETC.  SHE LIVES ALONE AND IS DOING THIS ON HER ON.

I HAVE FRIENDS WITH EXTREMELY BAD BACKS,FUSION OF DISKS,I HAVE TOLD THEM HOW TO 
SOAK IN THE SALT BATH, HOW TO MAINTAIN IT ON THE BACK WHILE SITTING.  YOU 
SHOULD SEE THE DIFFERANCES IN THEM, NO MORE CANES.  I ALSO HAVE A FRIEND WITH 
THIS SAME PROBLEM WHICH NO ONE COULD HELP HER,SHE IS A 75 YR. OLD RN, I TOLD 
HER THE SAME PLUS FOOT INSOLES, I AM A BIG PROPONET OF THESE, IMMEDIATE 
RECOVERY BUT SHE HAS A DOWAGER HUMP SO I TOLD HER TO DIP A CLOTH IN THE SALINE 
WATER AND APPLY IT TO THE HUMP WITH SARAN WRAP WITH A HEATING PAD WITH ELASTIC 
BANDAGE AND TO RUB AGAINST THE FLOOR.  I GAVE HER MANY EXERCISES FOR BOTH.  NO 
MORE HUMP!!! NEEDLESS TO SAY I WAS SURPRISED.

ANOTHER QUESTION..IN ALL OF THE ABOVE CASES ESPECIALLY WITH CGF ALL WERE TAKING 
CALICUM,JUST CALCIUM ALONE PER DOCTOR INSTRUCTION,  DOES CALCIUM, HARDEN THE 
ARTERIES AND THE VALVES, AS I READ.  IN ALL CASES, THE DOCS TOLD MY MOTHER AND 
MOM-IN-LAW, WHO DIED AT 94, THE VALVES WERE CALCIFIED.
CAN  THIS BE THE RESULT OF THE CALCIUM???

ANY INFORMATION ON MAGNESIUM IS GREATFULLY APPRECIATED, I BELIEVE IN THE 
TRANSDERMAL WAY OF CALCIUM INTAKE, BUT I AM LOOKING A MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE BUT 
THE SEAS ARE POLLUTED, SO I USE SALT FROM CAVES,THE BRAND, REAL SALT, I MAKE 
INTO A SLURY AND PUT INTO MY HOT CHOCOLATE,UNSWEETENED,WITH MY GREENS I USE 1 
TEA. IS THIS CONSIDERED 1000 MG. AND IS IT OK TO DO THIS?

ANOTHER INTERESTING OBSERVATION, I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT WHERE THE SIDE OF MY HEAD 
CAME OFF.  THIS HAPPENED IN 94, AT THAT TIME I LOST ALL OF MY BUSINESSES AND 
MYSELF.  I WAS ALWAYS A AGGRESSIVE WOMAN BUT I ENDED IN A CLOSET UNTIL A 
NEUROPYCH DISCOVERED ME AND TOLD ME I HAD A BRAIN INJURY.  I COULD NOT 
WALK,TALK, READ, LISTEN TO MUSIC, WATCH TV, NOISE WAS HORRIBLE I TRULY KNOW 
THAT PEOPLE WITH STOKES, AND CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH OTHERS FEEL LIKE.  SIMPLE 
THINGS LIKE GOING INTO GROCERY STORES WAS A MASSIVE PROBLEM, BUT I OVERCAME.  
THE DOCS ALL INSISTED I WAS"DEPRESSED" I STRESSED I WAS FRUSTRATED AND NOT 
DEPRESSED, THEY INSISTED I TAKE DRUGS, I WOULD NOT SO I STARTED ON MY QUEST TO 
HEAL MYSELF AND I DID.

I NOW FIND OUT, READING THE INFORMATION ON MAG, ALL OF THE PROBLEMS I HAD WERE 
A LACK OF MAGNESIUM  IF THEY STARTED ME ON THIS AMAZING MINERAL I WOULD NOT 
HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH HELL AND BACK.



THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THIS GROUP.

MAY GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU AND YOUR WIFE.

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Hello Marshall,
The amounts of Magnesium involved in this protocol are many times lower than required
to create consequential upsets within the physiology  of any but the MOST SYSTEMICALLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS..  Much disruptive and inaccurate information relating to the Calcium/Magnesium relationship has been bandied about by many persons who do not have correct information..and even less research in the matter.  For example, with some notable exceptions, most of the general population ingests an EXCESS of calcium...much of it from un-noticed sources in the general food supply.  Magnesium is, in most cases, in short supply for insuring good health in the average adult.  We do not contend that the proportional relationship between magnesium and calcium is of no consequence.as there is a proven interaction which is important in human health.  However, we do contend that the ACTUAL necesary
proportions of SUPPLEMENTAL ADDITIONS (MOST ESPECIALLY OF CALCIUM FRACTIONS)are considerably  different from a majority of the popular media claims, and overblown in their specific importance relative to stated exactitudes of percentages. The problem of TOO MUCH CALCIUM is, we seem to find, much more prevalent than too little.  The central problem revolves around calcium UTILIZATION..not gross intake.  The long-lived bromide  about calcium shortages had its inception, primarily, as a result of studies (many quite flawed) relating to osteoporosis conditions manifesting in post-menopausal women.
  My short answer to your observation is, simply, that 1000 mg daily of supplemental magnesiumfor adults consuming anything but a nutrition

Re: CS> CS & DMSO:COMMENT

[Marshall Dudley]

Brooks Bradley wrote:

Hello Marshall,
The amounts of Magnesium involved in this protocol are many times 
lower than required
to create consequential upsets within the physiology of any but the 
MOST SYSTEMICALLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS.. 



Thank you very much for your detailed reply.

Marshall


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Re: CS>CS for EPM Horses

[Marshall Dudley]

marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Since Marshall hasn't answered my questions pertaining to Colloidal Silver and 
feed for horses, is there anyone else on the list who knows anything about 
sulphur, and to a lesser degree protein, binding to CS particles and rendering 
CS ineffective when mixed with feed?  Thanks.  MA


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I did answer it, did it not make it out to anyone?

Marshall

RE: CS>Tongue cancer / Map of the Tongue

[Dan Nave]

 FWIW 
 
http://www.chinesemedicinesampler.com/diagtongue.html
 
 
http://www.jcm.co.uk/product.php?catID=454&opener=0-196-454&productID=18
46&d=5
not cheap...
 
http://beyondwellbeing.com/herbs/tongue-diagnosis.shtml
 
this site has interesting references/pictures of tongue diagnosis for
several conditions.
 
Dan



From: vwol...@aol.com [mailto:vwol...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Tongue cancer / Map of the Tongue


In a message dated 11/29/2006 7:43:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
p...@zoomnet.net writes:

In chinese medicine, the tongue is used to diagnose ailments
from kidney disfunction to liver failure to hormone deficiencyexcess.  

Do you know of a site that has a map of the tongue...I came across one
once and could never find it again...V

RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

[Ode Coyote]

  OK  Biting:

 The Pups have a number of modes available, accessed by operating two 
switches.


1] DC output mode.  [Straight conventional current controlled DC output.]
 Advantages: Works faster, enhances unstable properties of very fresh CS 
that may have antioxidant and oxygenating effects through free hydroxyl 
anions [Alkaline water?] and enhanced germ killing with free silver ions 
there 'before ' they find each other and form stabilized CS [EIS]
 Disadvantages:  More electrode deposits that 'can' grow over time and 
make a feedback loop that throws auto off..off. Very large batches take a 
long time and those problems are accentuated, sometimes needing an 
electrode wipe off.


2] SWAP output mode [Square Wave Alternating Polarity current controlled 
output]  Same as DC mode except the electrodes electronically switch 
positions every 1 1/2 minutes.
 Advantages:  Eliminates electrode crud buildup.  Enables a higher 
probability that very high PPM batches will be successful and nice.
 Disadvantages:  Takes longer to get to the same place and time is 
somewhat less predictable.
Also tends to make more highly particulate EIS..good if you like a strong 
TE, not so good if you don't...and the EIS is slightly more stable at finish.


Note:  Using the funnel thingie as a stir enhancer [chimney] on the Thermal 
stirrers, stabilizes the EIS as it's being made.  Good/Bad ?  A matter of 
personal opinion.  It does come out stronger at the Auto Off conductivity 
setting.  Conductivity and PPM are not quite the same things all the time.


3] Auto off mode [Works in both DC and SWAP output modes] References 
voltage on the electrodes with the conductivity of the water and the 
generator turns itself off at a given "PPM" [actually a given conductivity] 
Also gives a reference point from which to use a timer to predict PPM in 
higher than Auto Off regulated batches. [The Auto Off setting is hard wired 
for reliability and not user adjustable.  If you want weaker EIS, stop 
sooner or dilute it afterwards]


4] Manual mode [Bypasses the Auto off circuits telling the generator to 
ignore the turn off command ]   Used to make EIS as strong as you like or 
use "bad" water in a pinch.


Input:  Virtually any power source between 10 and 30 volts, AC or DC will 
work and the EIS comes out the same.  You'd be hard pressed to not be able 
to make CS if any electricity at all is available.  Even very low voltages 
will make EIS, but the auto off won't work if the output voltage is lower 
than the turn off reference voltage. [It turns itself off and manual mode 
must be used]


 Differences in prices between any generator makers have little to do with 
function and product quality.


Ode



At 04:01 PM 11/29/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Sorry just a typo.  I've been very happy with my puppy but had better let 
Ode explain the difference in settings.

Todd



From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:02:07 -0600

Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein




From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 
5-6 hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But 
other than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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Re: CS>Making Kefir

[zoe W]

  There are lots of folks in Canada with grains to spare.  


Dom's Kefir in-site for information:
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html  Here you can learn about kefir 
in depth  and  join one or both of his kefir groups.   Highly recommended if 
you are serious about making kefir.

If you're looking for kefir grains or have kefir grains to share:
http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php 
http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/kefir/kefirlist.php 
http://www.kefir.at/bezugsquellen.php 

zoe



  
Thursday, November 30, 2006, 5:10:36 AM, you wrote:
Barbara said,
>I'm making kefir every day and here is the way I do
it.<

Barbara, how would a person in Canada acquire kefir
grains? Also, how would one make good kefir without
using milk? 

Thanks for any suggestions,

Terry Chamberlin

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Re: CS>Making Kefir

[Barbara]

Terry, there is a wonderful site for kefir and this is the link:

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html 

Kefir grains traditionally should not be sold only shared but there are people 
who do sell them.  Dom on his site will also tell you how to make kefir out of 
water or fruit juices.  He ships to most everywhere. 

I do have extra grains and would ship them to you but they are in milk so not 
good for water kefir.  There are also groups discussing kefir but I do not 
belong to any of them.  Members do give the grains just for shipping charges.  

Barbara






Barbara, how would a person in Canada acquire kefir
grains? Also, how would one make good kefir without
using milk? 

Thanks for any suggestions,

Terry Chamberlin

CS>CS for EPM Horses

[marmar845]

Since Marshall hasn't answered my questions pertaining to Colloidal Silver and 
feed for horses, is there anyone else on the list who knows anything about 
sulphur, and to a lesser degree protein, binding to CS particles and rendering 
CS ineffective when mixed with feed?  Thanks.  MA


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CS>cockroaches, tongues end svere cuts

[Faith Saint Francis]

Carol-Ann wrote:


NEVER LICK ENVELOPES <<


So true!
But there is more to it.
When I was still working at a health-insurance office, we were told of this 
client in trouble:


She had severely cut her tongue when licking to moist the glue. The cut was 
so severe that it went through one of the the tongue-arteries. She was in 
real trouble.


As patients getting pills for under the tongue may know, there are two 
arteries underneath the tongue, and they are very vulnerable. These pills 
soaked take the medicine right into the bloodstream.


Moreover, have a good look at the contents of this glue, you might prefer 
poison.


Faith

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CS>Re: Map of the Tongue -- Good, very very good!

[Faith Saint Francis]

Zissis Good man
Zissis very very good!
We thank you from dee bottom 'f ou' hearts!
Faith



From: Carol Ann 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Tongue cancer / Map of the Tongue
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:24:16 -0800 (PST)

This is a somewhat broad map but points to the different areas of the 
tongue affecting the major organs.   Enjoy.


http://www.yinyanghouse.com/theory/chinese/tongue_diagnosis

vwol...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/29/2006 7:43:11 PM Eastern 
Standard Time, p...@zoomnet.net writes:
 In chinese medicine, the tongue is used to diagnose ailments from kidney 
disfunction to liver failure to hormone deficiencyexcess.
 Do you know of a site that has a map of the tongue...I came across one 
once and could never find it again...V




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CS>Making Kefir

[Terry Chamberlin]

Barbara said,
>I'm making kefir every day and here is the way I do
it.<

Barbara, how would a person in Canada acquire kefir
grains? Also, how would one make good kefir without
using milk? 

Thanks for any suggestions,

Terry Chamberlin

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CS>Re: Brooks on Prostate

[Peter Rebaudo]

Dear Brooks:

Brooks Bradley Wrote:

> High-intensity LED light array (using 3500 MCD BULBS...in a 10 to 15 
bulb assembly)
> placed in direct contact with skin surface, immediately adjacent to 
the prostate.


Could You tell us what color or frequency was the light ?
The surface area was in the front above the genitalia ?

Regards.

Peter R


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Re: CS>Budwig diet revision

[Duncan Crow]

Hi Deborah,

Although lactobacilli produce gas and I think work faster on 
inulin it's the minor probiotic; the major one bifidobacteria 
don't. I don't know what causes the gas as it's a complex 
situation in the gut. Gas will resolve as the bowel ecology 
improves with more bifidobacteria; it takes about 10-30 days.

Duncan


On 29 Nov 2006 at 18:20, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> Hi Duncan could you comment for me as to why inulin capsules and
> even probitotic capsules would give me violent gaswhat is up
> with that? is something bieng killed off? thanks so much in
> advance debbie 
> 
> Duncan Crow  wrote:  Lactose intolerance has been 
> relieved by adding inulin to the 
> diet, which brings up the numbers of probiotic organisms that eat 
> lactose before it causes indigestion :)
> 
> Duncan
> 
> On 27 Nov 2006 at 15:37, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> > My solution to lactose intolerance was to switch to almond milk. Really 
> > tastes good as well, although rather expensive. Don't get the Pacific 
> > brand, it is not very good.
> > 
> > Marshall
> > 
> > ruth strackbein wrote:
> > > Hi, Duncan Crow, I have recently become interested in kefir. I am 
> > > lactose intolerant. My daughter tells me that homemade kefir even 
> > > made with storebought milk works for her in spite of her problems with 
> > > milk products. She sent me some grains. Unfortunately, I let them 
> > > sit over Thanksgiving Day without feeding and they had already been in 
> > > the mail since Monday. Also I made several serious errors in working 
> > > with them. I am currently trying to find somewhere where I can 
> > > purchase unpasteurized goat's milk which is supposed to keep the 
> > > "grains" happier, but not to be absolutely necessary. What is your 
> > > opinion of such kefir? I am also interested in water kefir . Ruth
> > >
> > >> From Ruth Strackbein
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Duncan Crow 
> > >> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > >> To: Acmeair , silver-list@eskimo.com
> > >> Subject: Re: CS>Budwig diet revision
> > >> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:25:52 -0800
> > >>
> > >> Hi Jim, yes, the Budwig Diet revision is mine.
> > >>
> > >> My opinion on yogurt?
> > >>
> > >> It is of some use as a probiotic but the primary bacteria in
> > >> yogurt, lactobacilli, is not the best probiotic. What reveals the
> > >> probiotic is not a particularly powerful one is that the gut of
> > >> elderly patients contain high acidophilus AND pathogen levels; on
> > >> the other hand, small fluctuations of bifidobacteria numbers
> > >> produce large numeric changes in the bowel ecology including
> > >> lactobacilli.
> > >>
> > >> What's missing from the yogurt or probiotic approach is feeding
> > >> the probiotic culture that is already in the gut. Historically
> > >> this was done with high-inulin containing foods, many of which
> > >> are not popular commercial crops today so most of us are
> > >> deficient by about 3/4 of the optimal amount of this prebiotic.
> > >> This explains the bowel disorders epidemic.
> > >>
> > >> Yogurt is also of some use as a food even though it's made
> > >> primarily of the hard-to-digest type of bovine casein noted in
> > >> the Budwig Diet revision. Casein has been removed from
> > >> undenatured whey.
> > >>
> > >> Duncan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 25 Nov 2006 at 16:34, Acmeair wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > very nice explanation of this on your website. do you have an
> > >> > opinion on using yoghurt cheese with the cod-liver oil? i make 2
> > >> > cheese balls out of each batch of yoghurt. and,,, is this
> > >> > revision yours, after your study and research? thanks,
> > >> > jim
> > >>
> > >>
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