Re: CSNeed help in New York city...
Thanks for tryiing, Mike. It doesn't seem as if anyone lives in the area or is willing to help. But thanks for trying! On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm working with a person who very much wants to get started making their own CS, but is really challenged with Lyme-fog right now and could greatly benefit from a little hands-on, in-person demonstration of what to do. I'm too far away to make the trip, unfortunately. Does anybody here live in the NYC area, and would you be willing to venture into town and get together with them? Let me know privately or on-list as you prefer. Thanks! I very much appreciate the help. Be well, Mike D. (a.k.a. 'Coach') [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Rainie
Re: CSShingles
In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:42:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:
And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various
remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and elsewhere.
sunny
Hi Sunny, found this by chance when I read one of the GMO subjects... I
have a friend who was hit by a really bad case of shingles. I had never tried
this but she said she would try anything. I gave her some EIS--( CS )
a bottle of what I call the Brooks Mix She took a tsp per day of EIS
(CS) applied the Mix to the shingles topically... In about a week they
were gone. This was over a year ago she had one reoccurrence when she had
not had any EIS. Now she has her own simple generator no more shingles...
_www.atlasnova.com ..._ (http://atlasnova.com/) The Mix = 75% EIS
(CS) ---10 % DMSO ---15 % Glycerin ... It is also great to cure many
skin problems... {{ I use a shot glass-- 3-shots of EIS---1 shot of DMSO
11/2 shot glycerin... give it a shake shake before you put it on.}}
There are a lot of good generators out there. The one from atlasnova is
just the one I found out about first very reasonable Good luck-- Lois
CS(LL) For new mwmbers
If you are new to the list---(Thanks to Wayne)Here is a great site to visit---http://www.fugitt.com/cs.htm Lois
Re: CSIonic Silver is a Good Wood Preservative
Really good Dave; one to keep. dee On 9 Mar 2010, at 00:14, Dan Nave wrote: The description of the mechanism of antimicrobial action appears to be very good. Dan The mechanisms of the antimicrobial action of silver can be described as follows (17): 1. Silver ions form insoluble compounds in the cell wall with (and thereby inactivate) sulfhydryl groups, which are essential components of enzymes responsible for transmembranous energy metabolism and electrolyte transport. The result is a loss of fluids and electrolytes from the organisms, which dry out and die. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
Brilliant stuff! I have the spray form. dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 22:10, Annie B Smythe wrote: Very Interesting Steve :) Thank you. That might explain why with proper levels of vitamin D cancers don't develop. Another tick on the cancer is an immune system problem side. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiposomal 1,25 (OH)2 vitamin D3 compounds block proliferation and induce differentiation in myelomonocytic leukaemia cells - Zurich Open Repository and Archive
https://www.zora.uzh.ch/23326/ This was the page I found Linda - thanks a lot for any info you can find. I have just received my Now lecithin granules and am going to experiment with the Vit C (sodium ascorbate) that I have. dee
Re: CShelp for hearing loss
silver mixed with DMSO. Dee. On 9 Mar 2010, at 03:14, Deborah Gerard wrote: --static--catnmouse2_tc.gif Good evening everyone...does anyone have a idea of some kind of drops to help with hearing problems? thanks in advance Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Tony,
I make mine per Jim Meissner's instructions. I use one 9V battery with a 10K
ohm reisistor. I use two .999 silver boullion coins (alligator clips) and
distilled water only. Coins only in the water. I clean thinks up with white
distilled vinegar. I make about 22 oz at a time. In 12 hours the hanna primo
meter usually reads about 7ppm.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:53:09 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
I'm interested in how you make your EIS? Just for interests sake and so
that your questions can be answered here.
Are you using one of the regular machines on the market or a 'home made
one ?
Does the device have constant current control? and
Are you using distilled water?
OK,
Tony
On 8 Mar 2010 at 16:42, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled me
on making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good for
me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that
is specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos
to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes
are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'. I got three meters and
none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is
only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got more
*total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool me
into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g. My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be,
or *need* to be? Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to
get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the
*best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about meters,
calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me
you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for
half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the
Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me
and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.
I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any
comments on this is appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
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Re: CSGMO
Hey, don't forget the communists ! ode At 07:03 AM 3/8/2010 -0800, you wrote: Leo, Wow... the nazis/fascists are in control there too. This must be opposed and stopped... they are on a program of eugenics to depopulate the globe. These people are insane and dangerous. I don't know what we can do as ordinary citizens, but their ruthless evil programs must be stopped at all costs. - Original Message - From: mailto:leoel...@telus.netLeo Regehr To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: CSGMO Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= --- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO
Formaldehyde is used to preserve body parts in jars, but is also a natural metabolite of eating healthy foods. Context counts. About any ordinary thing can be jacked up into doomsday. Ode At 08:56 AM 3/8/2010 -0800, you wrote: As to veterinary grade DMSO I hardly think horse owners would use an impure product on their million dollar race horses and I think I'm worth at least that much so have no fears using it. :) When one takes into consideration DMSO is used for preserving frozen human embryos and frozen transplant organs the boogeyman scare tactics about it's dangers to the human body fall somewhat flat. Dr. Stanley Jocobs who has done extensive research on DMSO and it's many benefits has found it does no damage to any human systems. He in fact takes DMSO as a preventative measure everyday and has done so for many years without any damage. There is no doubt that before one uses DMSO they should research and find out the proper ways to use it and should use a reliable authority [Dr Stanley Jacobs] to gain their knowledge from. DMSO is to be respected but so should CS, Vitamins and certainly any chemical drugs and foods etc. one puts in or on one's body. I personally pay very little attention to what the naysayers have to say about DMSO. Sandy --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:14 AM Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following arguments: * Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans * Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure and unsafe to use * There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes * It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. *On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding the formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides. Actually, I often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not bother me. Seems alarmist to me but each to his own. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
The HM Digital EC3 does what a PWT and an HM Digital COM-100 does, only without the decimal place. Checking for PPM with a meter is an erroneous process to start with, so I'm not sure why the accuracy of a decimal place while using a yard stick to weigh something is all that important. Sorta like trying to get a kitten into focus...hey...it's fuzzy, ok? But you know were it is and about how big it looks [till it gets wet] EC3 $30 [free shipping] COM-100 $55 [free shipping] PWT ~ $57 [plus shipping] Might find a better deal on ebay. Ode At 04:40 AM 3/8/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello, I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is appreciated. -ThanksGary Native American style flutes Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~ www.etsy.com/shop/gajon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSSilver Meter
Tel, what kind of Hannah meter did you use to measure the distilled water and the PPM of theCS you make?
Also, Del what model do you use with your CS?
Thank you,
Brian
Mar 9, 2010 07:53:37 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
It happens to all of us over the years, I have switched from one to another always trying to get the purest steam distilled water. I did use walgreens drug store, for a long time and they changed there supplier , Bam ! There So called Distilled water was really bad, like over 10 ppm dissolved solids, or contamination. I took it all back with my
hanna testers and demanded my money back, and opened an unopened jug in front of them and tested it with my smallest tester , wow it was real bad, they gave me all my money back from 2 sales receipts, I buy about 8 or 10 gallons at a time, I try to limit trips. {Thus a good meter can pay for itself } I am sure all stores are different but here in Prescott, AZ Walmart has steam distilled water that measures only 0.00 to 0.04 now that is pure. I feel bad for people who use DW for car golf cart , boat batteries, that 10 ppm would shorten the life of the batterie, or plug up an iron fast.Tel TofflemireDewey, AZ.
From: Del To: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Tue, March 9, 2010 6:30:01 AMSubject: Re: CSSilver Meter
One experience of mine shows why you need a meter.
I have always used a meter to measure the strength of my CS right after making it.
It normally reads between 9 and 12, which is an approximation of the PPM of the solution.
Although the actual ppm may be a bit different, I assume it is not hugely different. The important thing is the consistency of the meter from one batch to the next. I know that each of my batches is similar to all the others that I have made.
One day I made a quart mason jar of CS from a new gallon of distilled water, and did my routine measurement after it was made.
I was not expecting anything different as the CS was clear and did not show any cloudiness or anything.
I woke up in a hurry when the meter jumped to 200 plus.
Whoa, what is this? I measure it again. Still in excess of 200.
I then poured water from the new gallon jug and measured that. Also in excess of 200.
The water was bad.
Why did my SG6 not refuse to makeCS from this as it is supposed to?
I don't know. It looked like it went through its normal process, although I was not really paying attention at the time.
Anyway, the meter showed that this jug of the distilled water I always buy (Poland Springs) was bad.
That had never happened before and has not happened again since.
And that is why you need a meter and should always measure each batch that you make.
Del
- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]-That'd be their way of saying"there isn't a meter'off the shelf' that is specifically designed to measureEIS" {without actually saying it!} cos to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'.I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I need to know .My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or*need* to be?Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pickthe seat you think isthe *best*seat once you get *in* {using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800From: gajo...@yahoo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'mlooking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like tobe able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is appreciated.
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Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
That is a tough one. Excessive sun can lead to chromosome damage which can plant the seeds for skin cancer. Lack of Vitamin D is the fertilizer that will allow them to multiply later. So it is likely that the biggest problem would be excessive sun, followed later by lack of sun. At least for me, I think that the sunscreen with vitamin D3 supplementation both when exposed to sun and when not is the best way to go. I know people who spent a lot of time in the sun and when young looked oh so nice with the brown tan, but now, 20 years later look 30 to 40 years older than they really are. Marshall Sandy wrote: Hi Steve, Whenever I hear someone say...stay out of the sun or slather on plenty of sunscreen if you're going out in the sun, I just shake my head. If they only knew that it's the vitamin D from the sun that helps prevent skin cancers and so many other illnesses. Of course, I'm not advocating that everyone go out and get burned to a crisp...just get 15 to 20 minutes of sun a day if at all possible. Interesting article, thanks for sharing. Sandy --- On *Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve /stephen.nor...@ngc.com/* wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 3:47 PM http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signaling device or 'antenna' known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D, said Carsten Geisler of Copenhagen University's department of international health, immunology and microbiology, who led the study. This means the T cell must have vitamin D or activation of the cell will cease. If the T cells cannot find enough vitamin D in the blood, they won't even begin to mobilize. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
One experience of mine shows why you need a meter.
I have always used a meter to measure the strength of my CS right after making
it.
It normally reads between 9 and 12, which is an approximation of the PPM of the
solution.
Although the actual ppm may be a bit different, I assume it is not hugely
different. The important thing is the consistency of the meter from one batch
to the next. I know that each of my batches is similar to all the others that
I have made.
One day I made a quart mason jar of CS from a new gallon of distilled water,
and did my routine measurement after it was made.
I was not expecting anything different as the CS was clear and did not show any
cloudiness or anything.
I woke up in a hurry when the meter jumped to 200 plus.
Whoa, what is this? I measure it again. Still in excess of 200.
I then poured water from the new gallon jug and measured that. Also in excess
of 200.
The water was bad.
Why did my SG6 not refuse to make CS from this as it is supposed to?
I don't know. It looked like it went through its normal process, although I
was not really paying attention at the time.
Anyway, the meter showed that this jug of the distilled water I always buy
(Poland Springs) was bad.
That had never happened before and has not happened again since.
And that is why you need a meter and should always measure each batch that you
make.
Del
- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that is
specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my
knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a
measuring instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the
ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis
that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters
fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g.
My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the
ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the *best* seat once you
get *in* {using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc
available in the public domain}.
N.
--
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you
needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half
that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it
wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it
basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be
able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is
appreciated.
-ThanksGary
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Re: CSSilver Meter
It happens to all of us over the years, I have switched from one to another
always trying to get the purest steam distilled water. I did use walgreens drug
store, for a long time and they changed there supplier , Bam ! There So called
Distilled water was really bad, like over 10 ppm dissolved solids, or
contamination. I took it all back with my
hanna testers and demanded my money back, and opened an unopened jug in front
of them and tested it with my smallest tester , wow it was real bad, they gave
me all my money back from 2 sales receipts, I buy about 8 or 10 gallons at a
time, I try to limit trips. {Thus a good meter can pay for itself } I am sure
all stores are different but here in Prescott, AZ Walmart has steam distilled
water that measures only 0.00 to 0.04 now that is pure. I feel bad for people
who use DW for car golf cart , boat batteries, that 10 ppm would shorten
the life of the batterie, or plug up an iron fast.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
From: Del d...@altsystem.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 6:30:01 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
One experience of mine shows why you need a
meter.
I have always used a meter to measure the strength of my
CS right after making it.
It normally reads between 9 and 12, which is an
approximation of the PPM of the solution.
Although the actual ppm may be a bit different, I assume
it is not hugely different. The important thing is the consistency of the
meter from one batch to the next. I know that each of my batches is
similar to all the others that I have made.
One day I made a quart mason jar of CS from a new gallon
of distilled water, and did my routine measurement after it was
made.
I was not expecting anything different as the CS was clear
and did not show any cloudiness or anything.
I woke up in a hurry when the meter jumped to 200
plus.
Whoa, what is this? I measure it again. Still
in excess of 200.
I then poured water from the new gallon jug and measured
that. Also in excess of 200.
The water was bad.
Why did my SG6 not refuse to make CS from this as it
is supposed to?
I don't know. It looked like it went through its
normal process, although I was not really paying attention at the
time.
Anyway, the meter showed that this jug of the distilled
water I always buy (Poland Springs) was bad.
That had never happened before and has not happened again
since.
And that is why you need a meter and should always measure
each batch that you make.
Del
- Original Message -
From: Neville
Munn
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:38
PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my
thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component
inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't
a meter 'off the shelf' that is specifically designed to
measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my knowledge...there
isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a measuring
instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?',
but they get me in the ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I
know from laboratory analysis that I got more *total* silver content than
all
my meters show, but the meters fool me into determining *roughly* what
silver
content I have and that's all I need to know g.
My
question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to
be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you
*in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the
*best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about meters,
calculations etc etc available in the public
domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From:
gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver
Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm.
Someone told me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a
Hanna Primo for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he
checked the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company
that sold it to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside
as
the Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what
ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is appreciated.
-ThanksGary
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Re: CSDMSO
Sorry - no can do Chuck - I like to get *all* information I can on a subject--negative as well as positive-- until I make up my own mind. Otherwise I would never have started using CS! dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 21:39, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Yes. stop reading... Chuck Lose weight - eat stuff you hate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it?
Not by consuming, but yes, it can from direct application. I have heard of it developing in only an hour when silver nitrate is spilled on the skin. But more likely it is staining, from it being splashed on the skin, then evaporating, and will be in/on the epidermis instead of in the permanent dermis, and thus will be exfoliated off in a couple of weeks. Marshall sol wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: This likely the only area that gets any sunlight, with the fur so short, and maybe white. So if argyria were to develop, that is the place to expect it. Marshall Hi Marshall, Would you expect argryia to develop in a time period of one month, or to reverse after a period of weeks? Why would this be so different in time scale between humans and a dog? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGMO
Ode, OK... not much difference really... but the right wingnuts control the Canadian government. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:23 AM Subject: Re: CSGMO Hey, don't forget the communists ! ode At 07:03 AM 3/8/2010 -0800, you wrote: Leo, Wow... the nazis/fascists are in control there too. This must be opposed and stopped... they are on a program of eugenics to depopulate the globe. These people are insane and dangerous. I don't know what we can do as ordinary citizens, but their ruthless evil programs must be stopped at all costs. - Original Message - From: mailto:leoel...@telus.netLeo Regehr To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: CSGMO Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= --- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
I have read the existing scientific research on Liposomal C. from Hickey et al. The higher blood values comparable to IV use are only achieved with multiple higher oral dosages, at 5gr or above. I have not been able to substantiate the 98% absorption claim for lower dosages vs regular ascorbic acid/ascorbates, I believe it is an artificial deduction, one researcher measured the same blood values from 12grs of Ascorbic Acid vs 6grs of liposomal C. The question is also if the original commercial product (LivOn Labs) is made with whole lecithin or only certain phospholipid components of lecithin, this is still unclear. The Donasbach product seems to be made with several components, not the same as Livon. Also the question is if there is a special method of chelating the sodium ascorbate with the liposomal carrier. There is also the consideration of ingesting too much, perhaps toxic levels, of phospholipids with liposomal products. One relevant example is the high amount of phosphorus which can have a negative effect on calcium levels/absorption in the body. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, 2 March, 2010 10:17:01 Subject: Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C When I ordered mine, the exchange rate was way in our favour, and it worked out to be about £90 and then I had to add the £20 VAT. I didn't think this was too bad at all, but I don't think the dollar is that low at the moment. I think if it is $145 then this is £97 in our money, so you would have to add on VAT to that. I can't remember if this included postage, but maybe not. I remember thinking it was all quite reasonable (apart from the bl...y VAT that is! which is the biggest con of all time!) dee On 1 Mar 2010, at 22:04, Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: It depends on how much it costs Kirsteen. I order everything from iHerb which is in California I believe and the postage is as low as $4 if the weight is less than 3lbs. That sounds good. They charge VAT on anything over £18 but they include the cost of postage in that. I can cheerfully accept that - it was the extra £10 I had to pay the PO which seemed totally arbitrary to me. They couldn't even explain it themselves - it was just pay up or don't get your parcel. They did give me a phone no. I could phone to get an explanation but it was a premium rate no so I gave up holding on before I spent even more than the original cost. I guess they get you every which way :-) I wanted to order the Silver Puppy but it's made me scared as I've no idea what they'll add on so I don't know if I can afford it or not. Cheers Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
Yes, Jim should answer all your questions.
OK,
Tony
On 9 Mar 2010 at 5:23, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Tony,
I make mine per Jim Meissner's instructions. I use one 9V battery with a
10K ohm reisistor. I use two .999 silver boullion coins (alligator
clips) and distilled water only. Coins only in the water. I clean thinks
up with white distilled vinegar. I make about 22 oz at a time. In 12
hours the hanna primo meter usually reads about 7ppm.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:53:09 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
I'm interested in how you make your EIS? Just for interests sake and so
that your questions can be answered here.
Are you using one of the regular machines on the market or a 'home made
one ?
Does the device have constant current control? and
Are you using distilled water?
OK,
Tony
On 8 Mar 2010 at 16:42, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled
me on making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good
for me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that
is specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!}
cos to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes
are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'. I got three meters and
none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is
only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got
more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool
me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all
I need to know g. My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna
be, or *need* to be? Without laboratory analysis meters are only going
to get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think
is the *best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about
meters, calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told
me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo
for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked
the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it
to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the
Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm
making. Any comments on this is appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
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Re: CScolor change dog's paws and legs, would like opinions on how CS could cause it?
Marshall Dudley wrote: Not by consuming, but yes, it can from direct application. I have heard of it developing in only an hour when silver nitrate is spilled on the skin. But more likely it is staining, from it being splashed on the skin, then evaporating, and will be in/on the epidermis instead of in the permanent dermis, and thus will be exfoliated off in a couple of weeks. Marshall I hope Carol reads your post and will comment on what kind of CS she gave her dog, and how likely it is that it got directly onto legs/paws. From all her posts on the subject, I don't remember any mention of it being applied topically either accidentally or deliberately to the dog's legs and feet. My understanding of her posts is that the dog simply got the CS orally, but I may have missed something. The devil is always in the details..I also don't remember specifics of what type, brand, ppm of CS she was giving. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBy Phone? Need help in New York city...
Hi Mike, I'm on the other end of the country, but if someone else has the same *unit* that the NYer does, how about getting on the phone with them in realtime to get them started? Just an idea... Stay well, Linda On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks,I'm working with a person who very much wants to get started makingtheir own CS, but is really challenged with Lyme-fog right now andcould greatly benefit from a little hands-on, in-person demonstrationof what to do. I'm too far away to make the trip, unfortunately.Does anybody here live in the NYC area, and would you be willing toventure into town and get together with them?Let me know privately or on-list as you prefer.Thanks! I very much appreciate the help.Be well,Mike D.(a.k.a. 'Coach')[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian][mdev...@eskimo.com][Speaking only for myself...]--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orgUnsubscribe:mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribeArchives:http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlOff-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comList Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com-- Rainie
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi, Tel
I am kind of new for making homemade CS. brought silver bullet from utopia,
It included TDS meter. I have tested my homemade distill water at 0.02 and CS
at 0.12. I pulled CS to amber jar. over time the ppm increased a little to
0.14. For curiosity, I tested tap water(live in S.F.), it was 0. 96. Brita
was 0.51. Could you tell me what does it mean? Contaminations in the water?
Quite a few of my friends just drink directly from tap water. So 0.96 is not
bad to drink or cook with, right?
Overtime, my TDS does not measure accurately. I think it needs to replace
batteries. My question is what different hanna tester from TDS meter. Does it
also need to change battries often? I need to buy one if hanna is the one we
need to measure CS. Thanks. Helen
--- On Tue, 3/9/10, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 5:52 AM
It happens to all of us over the years, I have switched from one to another
always trying to get the purest steam distilled water. I did use walgreens drug
store, for a long time and they changed there supplier , Bam ! There So called
Distilled water was really bad, like over 10 ppm dissolved solids, or
contamination. I took it all back with my
hanna testers and demanded my money back, and opened an unopened jug in front
of them and tested it with my smallest tester , wow it was real bad, they gave
me all my money back from 2 sales receipts, I buy about 8 or 10 gallons at a
time, I try to limit trips. {Thus a good meter can pay for itself } I am sure
all stores are different but here in Prescott, AZ Walmart has steam distilled
water that measures only 0.00 to 0.04 now that is pure. I feel bad for people
who use DW for car golf cart , boat batteries, that 10 ppm would shorten
the life of the batterie, or plug up an iron fast.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
From: Del d...@altsystem.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 6:30:01 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
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One experience of mine shows why you need a meter.
I have always used a meter to measure the strength of my CS right after making
it.
It normally reads between 9 and 12, which is an approximation of the PPM of the
solution.
Although the actual ppm may be a bit different, I assume it is not hugely
different. The important thing is the consistency of the meter from one batch
to the next. I know that each of my batches is similar to all the others that
I have made.
One day I made a quart mason jar of CS from a new gallon of distilled water,
and did my routine measurement after it was made.
I was not expecting anything different as the CS was clear and did not show any
cloudiness or anything.
I woke up in a hurry when the meter jumped to 200 plus.
Whoa, what is this? I measure it again. Still in excess of 200.
I then poured water from the new gallon jug and measured that. Also in excess
of 200.
The water was bad.
Why did my SG6 not refuse to make CS from this as it is supposed to?
I don't know. It looked like it went through its normal process, although I
was not really paying attention at the time.
Anyway, the meter showed that this jug of the distilled water I always buy
(Poland Springs) was bad.
That had never happened before and has not happened again since.
And that is why you need a meter and should always measure each batch that you
make.
Del
- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that is
specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my
knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a
measuring instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the
ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis
that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters
fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g.
My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the ballpark,
*you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the *best* seat once you get *in*
{using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc available in the
public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CS Borax Aldi
Thanks, Rowena! I'll have to go visit a few in my area, you never know! I went to the apothecary for some 35% H2O2, but they told me they only had the 30%, and asked what I wanted it for, as she was relunctant to give me any at that dilution. She was happy with my answer, I told her I was mixing it with the water for the humidifiers. I did have to sign a release form, stating that they had informed me about it being a semi-dangerous substance. Geez!! I informed her, that in the States, you could buy it at Amazon online, and she told me, well yeah! They also sell cortisone salves over the counter! meaning that just because its over the counter, doesn't mean it shouldn't be handled as a controlled substance. Go figure. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: An animal feed store might have it in bulk - I buy 25 kg at a time of Borax decahydrate (from Turkey), Epsom Salts, and Sodium Bicarbonate. They are safer to use than normal detergents as per Hulda Clark's writings. Otherwise in small quantities - yes, supermarket laundry section as a water softener. Rowena (Australia) I'm ordering borax off the internet, since I have no idea where to buy it elsewhere, in Germany,
Re: CSGMO foods
I wonder if the seeds would make customs over here in Germany, or if they would be returned to sender :-( I guess I should just give the company a call before I spend time picking seeds to order. We have, apparently, GMO butternuts, cause we've already tried 3 yrs in a row, to grow butternuts from the seeds taken from the squash we buy directly from the farmer. When I asked him what the deal was, why we never really got any decent squash, he told us he had to buy new seeds every year. I hadn't heard of Monsanto at the time, but it sure did click when I watched the movie about Monsanto. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes. Some of them are engineered to be sterile, so you have to buy and buy.. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame. Do you want such people in charge of what you eat? Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted. Deadline for orders March 10 www.fedcoseeds.com If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are the people to buy from! No affiliations - wish there were! with love and hope sunny *A peek into our world*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog ** *Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life * *Tune in and friend us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth* ** -- *From:* Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM *Subject:* Re: CSGMO foods Steve, It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the plant, in the soil and IN the plant. Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: There are two main theories about the bee population problem. One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' ability to find their way home. Having some trouble finding a site for that. No evidence of GMO involvement. Steve --- On *Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net* wrote: From: djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net Subject: CSGMO foods To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population? Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way. Debbie
Re: CSDMSO
I agree sol, as I use it for shingles. I just wanted to get other peoples 'take' on it. dee On 9 Mar 2010, at 04:54, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO. Any comments anyone? dee Dee, I have used DMSO for around 6 or 7 years now, and have never seen any adverse effects from it. As to herpes, my husband has put in on cold sores (mixed with CS) and after a few treatments, he hasn't had an outbreak in years. I have seen it stop a cold sore on him in 3 days. Like CS, DMSO is a core item in my self-care medicine chest and I will not be without it because it is such a valuable adjunct to CS. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Mushy raw veggies for my dog
Well there are plenty of things you can mix into the veggie mixture to make it smell more appetizing, like an oil... either coconut, olive, flax, salmon... make sure its an oil that is healthy. Don't use processed oils, but oils that have been cold pressed. The veggies I make are also very mushy. Its easier on their palate, and when its all mixed up with the DE and the Algae and the MSM and the raw meat, their mouths are already dripping with drool :-) You could also add sour milk you may have in the fridge, or some cottage cheese, or joghurt... they also love that! Or an egg, with the shell... which mixes well in the food processor. I also hardly ever throw out things that have gone bad, like cold cuts, or cheese. They don't mind a little bit of green mold which can be wiped off. Some people will throw out food wastefully, instead of feeding what's still good to the dogs. Especially meat... I've had chicken that spoiled, cause I didn't get around to preparing it for us. It happens sometimes..., I just cut it up, and throw it to the dogs. They have never gotten sick. Of course I would never give it to them if it were totally gross, and green with mold, or full of maggots, although I bet you, that if they were strays, and found something like that in some garbage bin, they would probably gulf it down in 2 seconds. Yuck! I didn't want to gross anyone out. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: ORRILIA, She prefers blended in a little water water and raw veggies; however, if they don't have the exact scent of the day to attract her, she is picky againShe loves it mushy and I try my best, but she is rebellious! dogs... -- *From:* jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sat, March 6, 2010 12:13:36 PM *Subject:* Re: CSRe: CS for pup ** http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Re: CS CLAY used for Lupus recovering Dog--Wow so far!!
Thanks, Tony. I'll have to look again. I did find baking soda for wash and cleaning. Aldi On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: Hi Aldi, I find borax at an ordinary supermarket here in South Africa. Try the laundry section ( it is a good soap or soap additive ) or the insecticides section ( it is sometimes used to control insects). I'm hope it helps. I sometimes use a solution of borax on my own hair as a shampoo. Just because it makes it feel clean, soft and flexible.
RE: CSLYME AND SILVER
We have a DP100 unit and my wife has used it since last November. She rates it as 9! Here is some info I captured about a month ago on some friends locally who are also using a DP100. Note all my friends below are still telling me only positive things as does my wife. Scott /29/09 Update: We have purchased a DP100 rife style electronic healing device and my wife is treating herself with it. The log for this will be in the dp100_log.txt file 01/26/10 Part I I just emailed my wife to get her impressions of the Dp100. (0-10 scale) and she puts it at 9. She felt it helped her feet where nothing had helped for the last 2 years there. What I do know is that she is doing so much better this year than in the previous years. In the past her protocol was primarily salt/c and some herbals. She switched to CS and C last spring and noticed a good improvement as she was certainly more consistent in using it over Salt and there were less GI problems and migraines. She also takes Vitamin D3 and uses tanning beds. Then October 2009 we bought the Dp100 and she has been using it. (log enclosed) Except the first few weeks earlier of this month when she got out of the habit (vacation and vacation prep and lot of home construction going on) and she had a bad relapse for a few days. She is back on it again and feeling great. She also went skiing this winter for the first time in years so that was good. I can also report we have a couple of local friends who are sharing the unit. The following is simply anecdotal and what I understand they have told me. I may be reporting some of the facts wrong or they might not be telling me the truth. Please don't take it as proven facts or advice. I do want to share though what I think I have learned from them. I am /ccing one of them to see if I got my facts right or not. If they reply I will update. One set of friends is a mother and her son. The son has confirmed Lyme and its been very bad. He had surgery at once point. When hearing what he was going through we recommended a lyme test. The WB came back positive. For some time he was been under treatment by Dr Jones. He would do well for a while and then have problems again. He had relapses and they kept putting him on more antibiotics and his gut was a mess as you might imagine due to the antibiotics. About a month ago his mother and he started using the DP100 and taking CS and using our hot tub at 104F for long soaks (they have since gotten their own hot tub) He has been totally off antibiotics and has not had a relapse since starting with the DP100. I believe she suspects she might also have Lyme but not sure. But she also uses the DP100. I believe she thinks what they are doing are helping them both. Again I am /ccing her for confirmation. We have two other friends using the machine and one of them is also treating her dog. One has had confirmed lyme for years and feels the protocol is working for her as she tells me. The other though has just started so we don't know much yet. 01/26/10 Part II Minor update to what I wrote from my friend... Well, not sure what you want to know. Regarding facts has been hospitalized because he could not walk and another friend here in town that has Lyme disease actually recommended we test him and then we had also contacted Roxanne. However, I suspect the hospital had planned on testing him. I am cautiously hopeful. S. has not relapsed since we have been on the rife, but again, we try not to get our hopes up. -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:29 PM To: Scott Adams; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME AND SILVER Hi Scott, Thanks for the reply. My name is Peter and I am a Lymaholicjust kidding...I have Lyme and co. too and am using a GB4000 and a John Stolar Coil machine along with Salt/C or CS, interspersed with MMS from time to time. This is the backbone of the protocol basically. I have looked at Jim Meissner's devices with interest several times in the past but never seem to get a true feel for their effectiveness. Whenever I've gone on his forum and hung around for a while and whenever I've asked his clients how they are doing I don't seem to get much from my effforts. Maybe I just haven't persisted for long enough...not sure but if I'm going to lay out that kind of cash I'd like to have some reassurance of some sort of a track record with its users. Anything you can add would be most appreciated! Many thanks in advance, Peter - Original Message - From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: RE: CSLYME AND SILVER She is using this one... http://meissnerresearch.com/products/DP100 Lots more information about this and many other things folks are doing for their Chronic Lyme on my free lyme resource CD. See
Re: CSanother question
Dee, You can dilute it into a 3% solution and use it to disinfect your bathroom, use it for countertops in the kitchen... Use it instead of bleach when you do whites... You can even use the 3% dilution to water your plants with... they're suppose to flourish! I haven't tried it out yet, but plan to. If you mix the solution with a bit of sugar, it can be used as an insecticide. I'm going to try that one out on some leaf parasites. Don't you have a humidifier? Add some of that 35% to the water! It cleans the air. Just make sure it doesn't spill onto your hands. Wear rubber gloves, and you're good to go... and make sure it doesn't splash, cause its like bleach... it will turn colors white! I would love to take it off your hands, Dee, but I don't think it'll pass customs. Don't be afraid to use it. You'll see how easy it is, just as long as you take the precautions I mentioned. It will produce burn blisters, if you get it on your skin, so keep it away from your eyes, and away from your little ones and pets. Once you discover the uses, you'll probably go out and buy more! I did! I'm reading a book entitled: Flood your body with Oxygen. Its all about getting more oxygen into our bodies, and H2O2 is just one way to do it. Aldi On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Can you do that Aldi? It sounds quite dangerous stuff when you read about it. I have it in the freezer at the moment and keep waiting for it to explode! dee On 5 Mar 2010, at 20:52, Golden Aldi wrote: I would buy it off you in a heart beat! Put it into your humidifier for an extra dose of oxygen! Its too precious to just dump down the drain! I wish I could get 35%. I have to go to the apothecary for the lousy 3%. I'm sure you'll find someone in your area, who will be glad to take it off your hands. Aldi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Oh Lord--I've just ordered loads of lecithin and sodium ascorbate! I thought this was supposed to be good! dee On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:48, Ole Alstrup wrote: I have read the existing scientific research on Liposomal C. from Hickey et al. The higher blood values comparable to IV use are only achieved with multiple higher oral dosages, at 5gr or above. I have not been able to substantiate the 98% absorption claim for lower dosages vs regular ascorbic acid/ascorbates, I believe it is an artificial deduction, one researcher measured the same blood values from 12grs of Ascorbic Acid vs 6grs of liposomal C. The question is also if the original commercial product (LivOn Labs) is made with whole lecithin or only certain phospholipid components of lecithin, this is still unclear. The Donasbach product seems to be made with several components, not the same as Livon. Also the question is if there is a special method of chelating the sodium ascorbate with the liposomal carrier. There is also the consideration of ingesting too much, perhaps toxic levels, of phospholipids with liposomal products. One relevant example is the high amount of phosphorus which can have a negative effect on calcium levels/absorption in the body. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Mushy raw veggies for my dog
Thanks Golden Aldi, Mush veggie talk helpful; I have plenty of coconut oil/butter here, etc. I don't do dairy here, nor in my own life animal products, but for my girl animal is great; fish is great for her too. Changed vet appt. to today and she is doing super well according to my thoughts/eyes. Carolg From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 12:46:14 PM Subject: Re: CS Mushy raw veggies for my dog Well there are plenty of things you can mix into the veggie mixture to make it smell more appetizing, like an oil... either coconut, olive, flax, salmon... make sure its an oil that is healthy. Don't use processed oils, but oils that have been cold pressed. The veggies I make are also very mushy. Its easier on their palate, and when its all mixed up with the DE and the Algae and the MSM and the raw meat, their mouths are already dripping with drool :-) You could also add sour milk you may have in the fridge, or some cottage cheese, or joghurt... they also love that! Or an egg, with the shell... which mixes well in the food processor. I also hardly ever throw out things that have gone bad, like cold cuts, or cheese. They don't mind a little bit of green mold which can be wiped off. Some people will throw out food wastefully, instead of feeding what's still good to the dogs. Especially meat... I've had chicken that spoiled, cause I didn't get around to preparing it for us. It happens sometimes..., I just cut it up, and throw it to the dogs. They have never gotten sick. Of course I would never give it to them if it were totally gross, and green with mold, or full of maggots, although I bet you, that if they were strays, and found something like that in some garbage bin, they would probably gulf it down in 2 seconds. Yuck! I didn't want to gross anyone out. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote: ORRILIA, She prefers blended in a little water water and raw veggies; however, if they don't have the exact scent of the day to attract her, she is picky againShe loves it mushy and I try my best, but she is rebellious! dogs... From: jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 12:13:36 PM
Re: CSanother question
Thanks so much for this info Aldi, I will look into it again and try not to be such a wimp!. dee On 9 Mar 2010, at 20:08, Golden Aldi wrote: Dee, You can dilute it into a 3% solution and use it to disinfect your bathroom, use it for countertops in the kitchen... Use it instead of bleach when you do whites... You can even use the 3% dilution to water your plants with... they're suppose to flourish! I haven't tried it out yet, but plan to. If you mix the solution with a bit of sugar, it can be used as an insecticide. I'm going to try that one out on some leaf parasites. Don't you have a humidifier? Add some of that 35% to the water! It cleans the air. Just make sure it doesn't spill onto your hands. Wear rubber gloves, and you're good to go... and make sure it doesn't splash, cause its like bleach... it will turn colors white! I would love to take it off your hands, Dee, but I don't think it'll pass customs. Don't be afraid to use it. You'll see how easy it is, just as long as you take the precautions I mentioned. It will produce burn blisters, if you get it on your skin, so keep it away from your eyes, and away from your little ones and pets. Once you discover the uses, you'll probably go out and buy more! I did! I'm reading a book entitled: Flood your body with Oxygen. Its all about getting more oxygen into our bodies, and H2O2 is just one way to do it. Aldi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSanother question
Aldi, Can you share how you would use H2O2 in getting more oxygen into the body? I'm very interested in this as I believe I could benefit greatly but don't have a clue as to how to do so. Please share if you can. Thx Lisa _ From: Golden Aldi [mailto:goldena...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSanother question Dee, You can dilute it into a 3% solution and use it to disinfect your bathroom, use it for countertops in the kitchen... Use it instead of bleach when you do whites... You can even use the 3% dilution to water your plants with... they're suppose to flourish! I haven't tried it out yet, but plan to. If you mix the solution with a bit of sugar, it can be used as an insecticide. I'm going to try that one out on some leaf parasites. Don't you have a humidifier? Add some of that 35% to the water! It cleans the air. Just make sure it doesn't spill onto your hands. Wear rubber gloves, and you're good to go... and make sure it doesn't splash, cause its like bleach... it will turn colors white! I would love to take it off your hands, Dee, but I don't think it'll pass customs. Don't be afraid to use it. You'll see how easy it is, just as long as you take the precautions I mentioned. It will produce burn blisters, if you get it on your skin, so keep it away from your eyes, and away from your little ones and pets. Once you discover the uses, you'll probably go out and buy more! I did! I'm reading a book entitled: Flood your body with Oxygen. Its all about getting more oxygen into our bodies, and H2O2 is just one way to do it. Aldi On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Can you do that Aldi? It sounds quite dangerous stuff when you read about it. I have it in the freezer at the moment and keep waiting for it to explode! dee On 5 Mar 2010, at 20:52, Golden Aldi wrote: I would buy it off you in a heart beat! Put it into your humidifier for an extra dose of oxygen! Its too precious to just dump down the drain! I wish I could get 35%. I have to go to the apothecary for the lousy 3%. I'm sure you'll find someone in your area, who will be glad to take it off your hands. Aldi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSShingles HELP is HERE
Sonny,
We can not tell you without looking, and it is not really legal anyway, but If
you have Colloidal Silver of any name, ELS, CS, DR.'s Moonshine, Drink it,
(don't worry you will not get blue) Drink at least a cup at a time, swishes it
in your mouth before you swallow. Double the benefits, Also Apply it to the
external break out area several times a day, spray is best if you do not have a
sprayer, pour it on the best way you can. (for get the tea spoon stuff) I
never seen anyone get better with that small amount, ever. ! Good luck :}
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 7:23:45 AM
Subject: Re: CSShingles
In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:42:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:
And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various
remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and
elsewhere.
sunny
Hi Sunny, found this by chance when I read one of the GMO
subjects... I have a friend who was hit by a really bad case of shingles. I had
never tried this but she said she would try anything. I gave her some
EIS--( CS ) a bottle of what I call the Brooks Mix She took a tsp per
day of EIS (CS) applied the Mix to the shingles topically... In
about a week they were gone. This was over a year ago she had one
reoccurrence when she had not had any EIS. Now she has her own simple generator
no more shingles...
www.atlasnova.com
...The Mix = 75% EIS (CS) ---10 %
DMSO ---15 % Glycerin ... It is also great to cure many skin
problems... {{ I use a shot glass-- 3-shots of EIS---1 shot of DMSO
11/2 shot glycerin... give it a shake shake before you put it
on.}}
There are a lot of good generators out there. The
one from atlasnova is just the one I found out about first very
reasonable Good luck-- Lois
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi There Helen - when you say S.F. are you referring to Santa Fe - if so the water in New Mexico is very heavy in minerals which is not good for making EIS - so get some distilled water from the supermarket make sure you purchase only one bottle at a time, so you can test each as you take them home and see which works out to have the lowest reading on your meter - I cannot remember which Brand I found the best when I lived there, and even so they have probably all changed since I left. Just keep on trying until you find the Brand water with the lowest reading - there is no filter that I know of which can take all the properties whether they be man made or God made out of water to make the best EIS. Take good care and all the best Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanother question
Hi There Lisa - there is a book you can get called oxygen therapy which will tell you all you need to know about the process you have to be very careful not to over do it. Take good care Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
What's that supposed to mean? An answer that short and terse leaves no room
for reading your intent. It appears to have sarcasm but I may be wrong, so I
would need you to say exactly so I'm not assuming wrong. I'm on this list to
get a diversity of opinions and learn what I can.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:14:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
Yes, Jim should answer all your questions.
OK,
Tony
On 9 Mar 2010 at 5:23, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Tony,
I make mine per Jim Meissner's instructions. I use one 9V battery with a
10K ohm reisistor. I use two .999 silver boullion coins (alligator
clips) and distilled water only. Coins only in the water. I clean thinks
up with white distilled vinegar. I make about 22 oz at a time. In 12
hours the hanna primo meter usually reads about 7ppm.
Thanks, Gary
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:53:09 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Gary,
I'm interested in how you make your EIS? Just for interests sake and so
that your questions can be answered here.
Are you using one of the regular machines on the market or a 'home made
one ?
Does the device have constant current control? and
Are you using distilled water?
OK,
Tony
On 8 Mar 2010 at 16:42, GARY ABEL wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled
me on making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good
for me.
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that
is specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!}
cos to my knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes
are...'guesswork using a measuring instrument'. I got three meters and
none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the ballpark, which is
only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis that I got
more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters fool
me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all
I need to know g. My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna
be, or *need* to be? Without laboratory analysis meters are only going
to get you *in* the ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think
is the *best* seat once you get *in* {using all that information about
meters, calculations etc etc available in the public domain}.
N.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told
me you needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo
for half that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked
the Primo and it wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it
to me and they said it basiclly has the same component inside as the
Hanna PWT. I would like to be able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm
making. Any comments on this is appreciated.
-Thanks Gary
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Re: CSanother question
Hi Lisa! I've just discovered hydrogen peroxide just recently, so I haven't been able to gather much experience with it yet, but I can suggest either checking your library, or bookstore for the above mentioned book, as its one that I'm reading at the moment, in between some other books regarding health. After you've done a bit of research and reading, which everyone needs to to on their own, its part of the learning process, as I am far from being any kind of expert, since, as mentioned above, I am totally new to this myself, and have not gathered much experience :-) But I CAN tell you w hat I have already read/learned, like some of the things we can do is bathe in it! Diluted, of course, cause remember, it will give you burn blister. In the book they say 6 oz. of 35% HP, with some baking soda and sea salt, half a cup each, to half a tub of water. Its actually described as a detoxifying bath. One person describes it as a tingling sensation. Someone else said a bunch of green gunk swam to the water surface. Guess it came from him! If you're seriously interested, then you should find a doctor, and there's a list of a few mentioned in the back of his book, that would administer a highly diluted solution intravenously. But in another book I read that the author emphasizes that one needs to continue with the therapy for a while, especially after one thinks they don't need it any longer, but that pertained to seriously ill patients in Africa. The other book I'm reading is entitled: Hydrogen Peroxide... Medical Miracle, by Dr. William Campbell Douglass. The Flood Your Body With Oxygen is by Ed McCabe. And the third book I'm reading is entitled: The Truth About Migraines to Multiple Sclerosis and more. What your doctor isn't telling you, but Science has proven. It's a brand new book that has come out, and explains in detail, with plenty of references to back things up. My eyesight isn't so great, so I don't read as much as I'd like to, and I'm hoping that maybe I can somehow miraculously heal this even, as I'm just near-sighted, and since a few years, need reading glasses, but I've heard that even that can be fixed, due to possible causes like yeast infestation, or some deficiency. I really do believe WE are capable of healing ourselves, or at least HELP our bodies heal themselves. Who really needs some of these doctors trained and schooled by the pharma industries when we are perfectly capable of helping ourselves, but only to those who are willing to take the time to educate themselves, and find other people passionate in learning and mentoring, AND sharing their own personal experiences. Aldi On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Aldi, Can you share how you would use H2O2 in getting more oxygen into the body? I’m very interested in this as I believe I could benefit greatly but don’t have a clue as to how to do so. Please share if you can. Thx Lisa -- *From:* Golden Aldi [mailto:goldena...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:09 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSanother question Dee, You can dilute it into a 3% solution and use it to disinfect your bathroom, use it for countertops in the kitchen... Use it instead of bleach when you do whites... You can even use the 3% dilution to water your plants with... they're suppose to flourish! I haven't tried it out yet, but plan to. If you mix the solution with a bit of sugar, it can be used as an insecticide. I'm going to try that one out on some leaf parasites. Don't you have a humidifier? Add some of that 35% to the water! It cleans the air. Just make sure it doesn't spill onto your hands. Wear rubber gloves, and you're good to go... and make sure it doesn't splash, cause its like bleach... it will turn colors white! I would love to take it off your hands, Dee, but I don't think it'll pass customs. Don't be afraid to use it. You'll see how easy it is, just as long as you take the precautions I mentioned. It will produce burn blisters, if you get it on your skin, so keep it away from your eyes, and away from your little ones and pets. Once you discover the uses, you'll probably go out and buy more! I did! I'm reading a book entitled: Flood your body with Oxygen. Its all about getting more oxygen into our bodies, and H2O2 is just one way to do it. Aldi On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Can you do that Aldi? It sounds quite dangerous stuff when you read about it. I have it in the freezer at the moment and keep waiting for it to explode! dee On 5 Mar 2010, at 20:52, Golden Aldi wrote: I would buy it off you in a heart beat! Put it into your humidifier for an extra dose of oxygen! Its too precious to just dump down the drain! I wish I could get 35%. I have to go to the apothecary for the lousy 3%. I'm sure you'll find someone in your area, who will be glad to take
Re: CSanother question
Lisa, did I mention that I add about 80 milliliters of 30% HP to about 4.5 liters of water to oxygenate the air? Oh, I forgot to mention... Ed McCabe's book seems to have quite a few pages dedicated to promoting some oxygen products, but I'm not sure how good the products are, or even if they do anything, other than cost the consumer money... I'm also not sure of consuming it either. I'd love to find a group of HP users who have taken it orally. What I'd like to try is the I.V. I read how the oxygen was slowly killing all pathogens, and other, turning the dirty, filthy blood back to its normal reddish color. Apparently, our blood is so polluted, that it would take quite a few sessions of I.V.s to successfully clean our whole system. Just imagine... feeling like newly born! Like I said, I'm just discovering this myself, and its all new to me. I need more info, and time for it to sink in. The other thing is ozone therapy, which I have not figured out at all yet. Oh, did you know you can buy cans of oxygen to breathe? When I find the link again, I'll send it, but it will be in german. I think they have something like it in the States, or it might even be in thta guy's book, since he's promoting all kinds of oxygenating items, like oxygenated water as well. Sorry for writing so much. Much have had too much coffee today. Its already going on 11 pm. Aldi On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Aldi, Can you share how you would use H2O2 in getting more oxygen into the body? I’m very interested in this as I believe I could benefit greatly but don’t have a clue as to how to do so. Please share if you can. Thx Lisa -- *From:* Golden Aldi [mailto:goldena...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:09 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSanother question Dee, You can dilute it into a 3% solution and use it to disinfect your bathroom, use it for countertops in the kitchen... Use it instead of bleach when you do whites... You can even use the 3% dilution to water your plants with... they're suppose to flourish! I haven't tried it out yet, but plan to. If you mix the solution with a bit of sugar, it can be used as an insecticide. I'm going to try that one out on some leaf parasites. Don't you have a humidifier? Add some of that 35% to the water! It cleans the air. Just make sure it doesn't spill onto your hands. Wear rubber gloves, and you're good to go... and make sure it doesn't splash, cause its like bleach... it will turn colors white! I would love to take it off your hands, Dee, but I don't think it'll pass customs. Don't be afraid to use it. You'll see how easy it is, just as long as you take the precautions I mentioned. It will produce burn blisters, if you get it on your skin, so keep it away from your eyes, and away from your little ones and pets. Once you discover the uses, you'll probably go out and buy more! I did! I'm reading a book entitled: Flood your body with Oxygen. Its all about getting more oxygen into our bodies, and H2O2 is just one way to do it. Aldi On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Can you do that Aldi? It sounds quite dangerous stuff when you read about it. I have it in the freezer at the moment and keep waiting for it to explode! dee On 5 Mar 2010, at 20:52, Golden Aldi wrote: I would buy it off you in a heart beat! Put it into your humidifier for an extra dose of oxygen! Its too precious to just dump down the drain! I wish I could get 35%. I have to go to the apothecary for the lousy 3%. I'm sure you'll find someone in your area, who will be glad to take it off your hands. Aldi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hello Gary,
Until someone comes up with the relationship between conductivity and PPM of
silver, it is all a ballpark best guess.
However, the meter has a lot of other uses beside trying to guess at the
concentration of EIS.
If you purchase distilled water, how do you know it is of high quality?
If you distill your own water, how do you know its quality?
When you rinse out your jar and are ready to brew a batch, how do you know
there is no contamination in the jar?
If you bottle your EIS, how do you know the bottles you use don't add extra
things to your EIS?
How stable are the ions in your EIS over time?
All of these questions can be addressed with a meter. The most important one
is the purity of the water followed by the purity of the jar you are making
your EIS in.
Tom
- Original Message -
From: GARY ABEL
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter
Thank you. I will use the information I got from the man who schooled me on
making EIS and just go with the amount of time. Ballpark is good for me.
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From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:38:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSSilver Meter
[Any comments on this is appreciated]
-Sure, here's my thoughts on the subject...
[...basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT.]
-That'd be their way of saying there isn't a meter 'off the shelf' that is
specifically designed to measure EIS {without actually saying it!} cos to my
knowledge...there isn't. Meters used for EIS purposes are...'guesswork using a
measuring instrument'.
I got three meters and none of them are 'accurate?', but they get me in the
ballpark, which is only where I need to be. I know from laboratory analysis
that I got more *total* silver content than all my meters show, but the meters
fool me into determining *roughly* what silver content I have and that's all I
need to know g.
My question would be...How 'accurate' do you wanna be, or *need* to be?
Without laboratory analysis meters are only going to get you *in* the
ballpark, *you'll* have to pick the seat you think is the *best* seat once you
get *in* {using all that information about meters, calculations etc etc
available in the public domain}.
N.
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:40:56 -0800
From: gajo...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSilver Meter
Hello,
I'm looking for any thoughts on meters to check the ppm. Someone told me you
needed the Hanna PWT that costs about $60. I found a Hanna Primo for half
that. The fellow that told me about the PWT says he checked the Primo and it
wasn't accurate. I contacted the company that sold it to me and they said it
basiclly has the same component inside as the Hanna PWT. I would like to be
able to be fairly certain what ppm I'm making. Any comments on this is
appreciated.
-ThanksGary
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Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
I am on a crusade when it comes to vitamin D. I am asking everyone to check and know what their blood levels of vitamin D are. Once you know where you stand, then you can visit www.vitamindcouncil.org and figure out where you should be. To check the blood levels of vitamin D, you need to have blood drawn and then ask your doctor to run the test for vitamin D. Vitamin D effects so many functions in the body that having an adequate amount directly influences your quality of life. This is an action item! Get off of your duff and have it checked... :) Tom - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:13 AM Subject: Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial Brilliant stuff! I have the spray form. dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 22:10, Annie B Smythe wrote: Very Interesting Steve :) Thank you. That might explain why with proper levels of vitamin D cancers don't develop. Another tick on the cancer is an immune system problem side. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hey Tel. Which brand of the water do you buy now at Walmart. I had a meter and you are right about the Walgreens. It use to be really good, then got really bad. But my meter broke so now I can't tell what is going on with the water I buy. I can't really find any that say steam distilled anymore either. They all say distilled, or worse, purified. But I will check to see if our walmart carries the brand you buy when you let me know. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I am sure all stores are different but here in Prescott, AZ Walmart has steam distilled water that measures only 0.00 to 0.04 now that is pure. I feel bad for people who use DW for car golf cart , boat batteries, that 10 ppm would shorten the life of the batterie, or plug up an iron fast.
Re: CSSilver Meter
Hi Renee, The Walmart Distilled water is called (Great Value ) on the shelf where drinking water is..it comes from California, But there web site on the bottle is: www.walmartstoreswaterreport.com They do say distilled in fine print on the bottle, I just tested this un-opened gallon jug, and it is 0.03 Very good . Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 3:39:13 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter Hey Tel. Which brand of the water do you buy now at Walmart. I had a meter and you are right about the Walgreens. It use to be really good, then got really bad. But my meter broke so now I can't tell what is going on with the water I buy. I can't really find any that say steam distilled anymore either. They all say distilled, or worse, purified. But I will check to see if our walmart carries the brand you buy when you let me know. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I am sure all stores are different but here in Prescott, AZ Walmart has steam distilled water that measures only 0.00 to 0.04 now that is pure. I feel bad for people who use DW for car golf cart , boat batteries, that 10 ppm would shorten the life of the batterie, or plug up an iron fast.
Re: CSSilver Meter
1-877-505-2267 Waltmart Phone # (I think in arkansas ) I tried the web site it did not work? Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 4:00:06 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter Hi Renee, The Walmart Distilled water is called (Great Value ) on the shelf where drinking water is..it comes from California, But there web site on the bottle is: www.walmartstoreswaterreport.com They do say distilled in fine print on the bottle, I just tested this un-opened gallon jug, and it is 0.03 Very good . Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 3:39:13 PM Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter Hey Tel. Which brand of the water do you buy now at Walmart. I had a meter and you are right about the Walgreens. It use to be really good, then got really bad. But my meter broke so now I can't tell what is going on with the water I buy. I can't really find any that say steam distilled anymore either. They all say distilled, or worse, purified. But I will check to see if our walmart carries the brand you buy when you let me know. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I am sure all stores are different but here in Prescott, AZ Walmart has steam distilled water that measures only 0.00 to 0.04 now that is pure. I feel bad for people who use DW for car golf cart , boat batteries, that 10 ppm would shorten the life of the batterie, or plug up an iron fast.
Re: CSanother question
Here you go.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HydrogenPeroxide/ Enjoy! Deborah - Original Message - From: Golden Aldi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:40 PM Subject: Re: CSanother question I'm also not sure of consuming it either. I'd love to find a group of HP users who have taken it orally. Aldi No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2732 - Release Date: 03/09/10 02:33:00
CSPopSci archives Steve
Whoopee!! Thanks for that, Steve. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Meter
Thanks Tel. I'll go tomorrow and see if our store carries it. Great Value is their own brand, I think? It use to be Walgreens own brand was the best one, but then they switched companies--the clerk told me, and that's when the water went downhill. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The Walmart Distilled water is called (Great Value ) on the shelf where drinking water is..it comes from California,
Re: CSnew source of Liposomal vitamin C
Uhhh, Dee... Brooks says it's all good. He's a bonafide researcher... Who you gonna trust? Got that whiplash collar yet? Chuck Barfingnewgen: German Car Sickness. On 3/9/2010 3:09:14 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Oh Lord--I've just ordered loads of lecithin and sodium ascorbate! I thought this was supposed to be good! dee On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:48, Ole Alstrup wrote: I have read the existing scientific research on Liposomal C. from Hickey et al. The higher blood values comparable to IV use are only achieved with multiple higher oral dosages, at 5gr or above. I have not been able to substantiate the 98% absorption claim for lower dosages vs regular ascorbic acid/ascorbates, I believe it is an artificial deduction, one researcher measured the same blood values from 12grs of Ascorbic Acid vs 6grs of liposomal C. The question is also if the original commercial product (LivOn Labs) is made with whole lecithin or only certain phospholipid components of lecithin, this is still unclear. The Donasbach product seems to be made with several components, not the same as Livon. Also the question is if there is a special method of chelating the sodium ascorbate with the liposomal carrier. There is also the consideration of ingesting too much, perhaps toxic levels, of phospholipids with liposomal products. One relevant example is the high amount of phosphorus which can have a negative effect on calcium levels/absorption in the body. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[List Owner] Reminder and update...
Hi folks, I'd like to issue an update on my work and a reminder about the current message size limit for the list... Several folks -- Lisa, Del, Tel to name the most recent -- have managed to send messages to the list that barely break the 18k message size limit, and so didn't post. As things are configured right now, you won't get any notice of that unless I respond to you myself, which I'm not always energetic enough to do. If you don't see your message post within an hour or so, try trimming it down and sending again. Unless there is a problem with the mail server at eskimo, that's usually the only reason a message doesn't go through right away, automatically. Always delete most of the quoted text from your reply... it's usually tacked on after your message and scrolls off the bottom of your editing window, unseen. If you do that, you'll easily be able to send a couple of pages of new text without breaking the limit, even if your mailer is set to send fancy formatted text. If you need to send more, then send only plain-text. It's an option in almost every available program and webmail system, often right in the message composer window. That will permit you to send several more screens' worth of text, if you're forwarding information from another source, for instance, or making lengthy detailed comments. Thank you! That brings me to the other item... I am continuing to work on extensive changes to the configuration of the existing list software which will greatly reduce the importance of the message size limit, eliminate message format problems, improve security, and eliminate or automate much of my remaining admin workload. I've set up a trap that lets me send test messages through the Off Topic List without them actually posting. So it should be less annoying to OT List subscribers than it's been for the last couple of weeks, even as I continue to use it for my testbed. Rest assured I'm still working on it, even though the test messages have stopped. grin When I'm ready I'll ask y'all to help me stress test the new code on the OT List, before I copy things over to this list's setup and deploy the changes here. Again, thanks for your patience and continued cooperation. Be well, Mike D. list owner, bit wrangler, and procmail arcana victim! LOL! [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
