CS>I started of vaporising CS at first as your story, 2001,

2021-10-04 Thread Douglas Haack

  Thanks for that . .  . please keep us updated . .  I started of vaporising CS 
at first as your story, 2001,  found ultrasonic units better, then again I've 
never been deathly ill . . . 

On Tuesday, 5 October 2021, 12:47:55 am AEDT, hanan bissar 
 wrote:  
 
 Awesome...I hope he continues to get better!
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 5:52 AM Ode Coyote  wrote:

yesThis from here, posted on PrepperNet
Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully vaxed 
husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill from COVID 
after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the hospital was full, 
but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]

He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit up in 
bed and getting worse.

 Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it with 
silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would settle 
mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.

 Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.

Updates when I get em.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24



This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever, 
walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24
Ode

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:

I've seen, and just responded.
Linda

From: "hanan bissar" 
Date: Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Are my posts being seen?
I posted earlier but did not see it in the archives. Please let me know if you 
see this post. ~Hanan 



Re: CS>Are my posts being seen? Yes

2021-10-04 Thread Douglas Haack
 Thanks for that . .  . please keep us updated . .  I started of vaporising CS 
at first as your story, 2001,  found ultrasonic units better, then again I've 
never been deathly ill . . . 

On Tuesday, 5 October 2021, 12:47:55 am AEDT, hanan bissar 
 wrote:  
 
 Awesome...I hope he continues to get better!
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 5:52 AM Ode Coyote  wrote:

yesThis from here, posted on PrepperNet
Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully vaxed 
husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill from COVID 
after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the hospital was full, 
but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]

He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit up in 
bed and getting worse.

 Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it with 
silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would settle 
mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.

 Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.

Updates when I get em.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24



This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever, 
walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24
Ode

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:

I've seen, and just responded.
Linda

From: "hanan bissar" 
Date: Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Are my posts being seen?
I posted earlier but did not see it in the archives. Please let me know if you 
see this post. ~Hanan 

  

Re: CS>3 stage disease

2021-10-04 Thread Max

From Cyndianns excellent link

"As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during  
the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune  responses 
rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence  factors,  
there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring  the  role  
of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "


With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and 
vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.  
The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the 
virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of 
antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed are 
immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is 
not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy 
includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting, 
budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.


As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a 
criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also 
pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor 
prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced 
versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the 
pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on 
his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed 
program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.    The failure of the 
vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport 
unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges 
regardless of vaccine status.


Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like 
this.  Thanks Cyndiann!


Kind regards
Max



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Re: CS>

2021-10-04 Thread Max
So people have spent 15 million on doctors and drugs like ivermectin to 
treat covid, with an efficacy somewhere around 80%, while operation warp 
speed spent 18 billion, some one thousand two hundred times more, for a 
vaccine that didnt stop the epidemic. Thanks for pointing that out Cyndiann


Israel cancelled the vaccine pass unless people have been triple 
jabbed.  This will go on indefinitely unless people use health programs, 
including ivermectin as needed, while overthrowing their overlords who 
love to impose total control on the population.


Forcing your body to produce the deadly spike protein is not a 
substitute for health.  It seems so obvious


After Cyndiann said the vax shouldnt be called therapy, or gene therapy, 
and after calling out the 1000x hypocrisy of suppressing medical 
treatment like ivermectin, It looks like Cyndiann is coming around.   
Finding this common ground is wonderful.  Im sure we also agree that the 
WHO and CDC say there is no evidence for the use of masks, and that the 
PCR cycle threshold was too high. We probably agree that Bill Gates was 
hugely instrumental in pushing this vaccine debacle.  If she were to 
look into it, she would agree that the viral stage is self limiting due 
to immune response, regardless of vaccination status, that the vaxxed 
and unvaxxed have the same level of delta virus in the nasopharynx.


We would agree that the estimated Net Worth of Albert Bourla is*at least 
$30.6 Million dollars*as of 27 February 2021. That U.S. billionaires 
made *1.8 trillion* during the pandemic and that Bill Gates for example 
made 32 million in the last seventeen months, disclosed


https://inequality.org/great-divide/updates-billionaire-pandemic/

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-riding-high-covid-19-vaccine-launch-pays-ceo-bourla-21m-2020#:~:text=Pharma-,Pfizer%2C%20riding%20high%20on%20COVID%2D19%20vaccine%20launch%2C%20pays,Bourla%20%2421M%20for%202020

Cyndiann, welcome to the truth club! Your statement that "And they know 
they are killing you!" rings out as a clarion call for public activism!


Max


On 10/4/2021 7:59 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/?utm_campaign=theintercept_medium=social_source=twitter 



Read that and wake  the fuck up.

You are dying while these corporations are raking in money.

And they know they are killing you!




Re: CS>game over

2021-10-04 Thread Max
What any dufus like myself could determine over a year ago is now fully 
out there.  The game is over.  Unfortunately, the vaccine pushers won!   
But it was a coup that could not last.  Three stage disease is key,  
'forcing automimmune inducing spike protein production by mRNA drug 
injection is no substitute for health' is key.  Fresh air is key, as is 
staying out of the hospital where perhaps a third of cases were 
transmitted along with all that nosocomial co infection that leads to 
death by sepsis


McCullough, worth watching in full as its a historic moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSW_zdH2UwU


my rant follows

John Ioannidis kind of let me down for not being outspoken about the 
vaccine and trailing off into obscurity. Too many death threats? Of the 
great Barrington triad, the quiet Martin Kuldorff seems to be the most 
anti establishment "in israel, vaccinated individuals had 27 times 
higher risk of symptomatic covid infection compared to those with 
natural immunity", yet all three still pushed the injection, when it was 
clear to me it couldnt possibly work in the long run on basic principles 
since it didnt address the cause of severe covid.   The mystery is why 
it worked at all.  We would know more if they were transparent with the 
ingredients.


Mike Yeadon was sterling...I think he moved to south America to keep 
from being assassinated.  Contrast to Fauci, the highest paid government 
employee who smells like a rat, lies like a rat, etc yet is adored by 
the majority of the population.    Wow, most people wouldnt recognize a 
charlatan if they fell out of the sky onto their heads.


The rest of the world simply went bonkers.  With large numbers of 
Stanford people witch hunting their paragon  peers for merely suggesting 
we protect the vulnerable, to the criminal behavior of governments, 
advisers, journals and hospitals, to the censorship of media, covid 
revealed that the world of mankind is out of our collective minds.  
Covid showed we are lunatic, unable to appeal to data and reason.  
Corrupt to the core on the leadership side with the public in lockstep


While the republicans will be all smug and no doubt gain greater 
influence, they will simply attempt a return to their outmoded retro 
think and sooner or later usher in some McCarthyism.  Its a tragedy it 
played out along party lines.


In Europe, millions did protest, even if it was a small percent of the 
total population.  But in the U.S.  we sit around like fat doughboys, 
munching another doughnut while reading up on the kardashians.   The 
U.S. populace is pathetic


Theres only one way forward, and its not backward.

The moral indignation, virtue signalling and shuttered minds of the 
masses illustrates the level of development of our species.  A long way 
off from being civilized.  Frankly, I dont see an answer to the 
conundrum of a species with an IQ of 100 and an egomania of 10,000



Max



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Re: CS>3 stage disease

2021-10-04 Thread Linda Ellis
Max you are amazing!  Thank you so much for taking this all on.  I so look 
forward to your essays!

From: "Max" mgperra...@aol.com
Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 6:23 pm
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS3 stage disease
 From Cyndianns excellent link

"As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
the early inflammatory phase are driven by host immune responses
rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence factors,
there is support for trials and re-search exploring the role
of different immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "

With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.
The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the
virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper. What is needed are
immunomodulatory therapies. The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
not permitted in patients at this stage. Immunomodulatory therapy
includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.

As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a
criminal action just to boost sales of the injections. She also
pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor
prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the
pandemic. The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
program and gotten ivermectin for everybody. The failure of the
vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
regardless of vaccine status.

Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like
this. Thanks Cyndiann!

Kind regards
Max



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Re: CS>

2021-10-04 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
The best point of all? What I post is real.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:11 PM pal joey  wrote:

> .and the clotshot killers are making billions off of their failed
> experimental gene therapy. So what is your point ? Now that its common
> knowledge that the clotshot doesn't prevent covid, but actually invites
> covid while killing 17,000 and injuring 100,000+ people, only a dumbass
> would go that route. Frontline Doctors are HEROES, who put their lives on
> the line, literally, because your mad scientists would Arkanside them if
> they could. We know how they hate competition.  You might want to start
> listening to Frontline doctors, because its you who has the higher risk.
>


CS>

2021-10-04 Thread pal joey
.and the clotshot killers are making billions off of their failed
experimental gene therapy. So what is your point ? Now that its common
knowledge that the clotshot doesn't prevent covid, but actually invites
covid while killing 17,000 and injuring 100,000+ people, only a dumbass
would go that route. Frontline Doctors are HEROES, who put their lives on
the line, literally, because your mad scientists would Arkanside them if
they could. We know how they hate competition.  You might want to start
listening to Frontline doctors, because its you who has the higher risk.


Re: CS>3 stage disease

2021-10-04 Thread Max

Bang on Cyndiann!

I usually say its a two stage disease, sometimes I say three stage.  
They subdivide into five stages.   Five stages is hard to remember,  do 
you remember the five stages?  "the  Pre-Exposure Period,  the  
Incubation  Period,  the Detectable Viral Replication Period, the Viral 
Symptom  Phase,  the  Early Inflammatory  Phase,  the  Secondary 
Infection Phase, the Multisystem Inflammatory  Phase,  and  the  Tail  
Phase. "  They subdivide the inflammatory stage into two or three parts 
and add the pre infection and post disease stage or long hauler stage. 
To understand covid as a disease, the two phase model is very helpful, 
i.e. the viral replication phase and the hyperinflammation phase.


So its very informative to refer to their figures one and three.   See 
they have divided it into two main  phases.  The viral stage and the 
inflammatory phase.  This is very important to understand the disease 
and this undermines the mainstream narrative and most peoples conception 
of covid.  It shows that everyone is immune in that they all develop 
antibodies regardless of vaccine status.  The deadly phase, which is the 
hyperinflammatory phase is not driven by lack of antibodies but a 
multitude of factors which could all be classed as "ill health and old age"


Importantly, they add the pre exposure period and the co infection 
period.  Its important to realize that the co infection is likely 
undercounted.  Co infections may contribute significantly to the hyper 
inflammatory phase.  I suspected this even before knowing the phases by 
the septic action, suggesting endotoxin reactions.


Now going to the beginning, this is important. They say about the pre 
exposure period;


"The  Pre-Exposure  Period  represents  the  target  for vaccination 
(active and passive) and the ideal time for... prophylactic medications 
with very low risk of adverse effects. Available evidence would suggest 
that this... the time that vitamin D, zinc, targeting ideal  body  
weight,  smoking cessation,  and  other  routine health measures might 
have a role. "  In other words,  get healthy, boost your vitamins, get 
sunshine and fresh air, keep your nose clean.


Now to the viral stage, the graphic of figure three says it all. The 
virus is overcome, even in the unvaccinated, and is not the cause of 
death.   They say "The RNA copy number decreases to below an 
infec-tious  level  by  day  10  in  most  patients"    Ive been saying 
about a week because you probably dont start to feel symptoms right 
away.  So after about a week of symptoms, they you need to work on anti 
inflammation and you can forget about the virus.  You are no longer 
infectious.


" the  period  of  virus  viability  ap-pears  to  be  limited and  
quantitative  RNA  detection  does not necessarily indicate 
infectiousness. Detection of sub-genomic RNA, indicative of replicative 
interme-diates of the virus, within the 1st 8 days after onset of 
symptoms  in  patients  with  mild  disease,  and in  vitro culture of 
live virus no later than day 9 "   So they cant culture live virus after 
nine days.  Bodies were laying on the street in equador because they 
were afraid to touch them for fear of infection.  Those fears were 
unfounded as we know now.


So now we are into phase two, the hyper inflammatory period, which they 
subdivide into early and late inflammatory periods with a secondary or 
co infection phase and the long haul phase, which by the way does not 
happen to everyone.  All diseases have some sequela.   Its important to 
look at the graph.  See that the antibodies  IgG and IgM are ramping up 
in everyone as you become non infectious.  The antibodies may not 
contribute much to inflammation, but nor are they lacking.  Isnt this 
the rational for vaccination...that nobody is immune and that you need 
antibodies?  The covid victims all had antibodies.    It seems a little 
redundant to subdivide into an early and late inflammatory stage. But 
they insert a co infection stage and this may be very important.   They say


"The Secondary Infection Phase starts at TSI (Time of secondary 
infection) and is characterized by a period during  which bacteremia,  
fungemia,  pneumonia,  and  other  secondary bacterial  infections  
occur  at  an  in-creased incidence. This appears to be a characteristic 
feature of the disease process and does not only occur in  patients  
having  undergone  treatment"


This is where antibacterial herbs and silver can be useful.  You arent 
trying to kill the virus, you are trying to reduce secondary infections 
which lead to hyperinflammation, which is the killer.


"The  Multisystem  Inflammatory  Phase ...is  char-acterized by peak 
levels of IgG, secondary infections, and  many manifestations  that  
are  suspected  to  be  secondary to autoimmune phenomena"


Inflammation is autoimmunity in a sense.  Your immune system is killing 
your own tissues in a missguided attempt to kill invaders.  Part 

Re: CS>Take Notice: Another Shill Gates & Company Virus Prediction

2021-10-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisiana-health-system-fine-employees-spouses-unvaccinated


On Sunday, October 3, 2021, 03:32:00 PM EDT, Rick 
 wrote:  
 
 
Thanks to Marcelo for posting this in one of my many feeds. It adds as a backup 
to what I just posted in my last message there. That being, "Thanks to the 
Sorceries of Big Pharma I believe there is more sickness and illnesses in the 
world than there ever was before." Link to the video on Reddit (don't forget to 
turn on the sound icon in the actual video at the bottom-right of the video).
https://www.reddit.com/r/CabalCrusher/comments/pzasfq/university_hospital_manager_and_academic_kieran/

Everything is in place to fast-track the vaccine for this and to falsify 
numbers with yet another PCR-like test. 

Marcelo replied: 
Thank you Rick for your comment.Thankfully, here, there is little or no 
censorship.
Exchanging and spreading information is especially vital at this time.
I used to believe in vaxxines.
That was before I started doing deep digging for truth.
Today's vaccines were designed for one purpose - to do us harm (that´s my view).
Stay safe.
Kind regards from Portugal   

Re: CS>

2021-10-04 Thread T. J. Garland
We love it when you talk dirty.
Seriously there are so many errors in your Intercept link, I don’t know where 
to begin.
I’ve played in a bridge tournament all day, and am mentally exhausted.
Someone else tear her a new one.

Now we can use Ivermectin instead of regular flu shots. Anon

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/?utm_campaign=theintercept_medium=social_source=twitter
> 
> Read that and wake  the fuck up. 
> 
> You are dying while these corporations are raking in money.
> 
> And they know they are killing you!
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:30 AM Rick  wrote:
>> 
>> Pal Joey, 
>> And now they are coming out with yet another new drug that mimics Ivermectin 
>> but costs much more money. Laughing! 
>> Of course, this is also a reason why Ivermectin was banned for many, so that 
>> they could bring out a near copy and make far more money with the new and 
>> near-identical twin! 
>> 
>> Get your Ivermectin from AFLD or one of the other groups of doctors on the 
>> right side of history. Or get your immune system back into shape by 
>> oxidizing those pathogens giving it breathing room to do its best again.
>> 
>> Covid, these shots, and more are now starting to fall apart. More and more 
>> are starting to see past the censorship walls. Keep it up, people! 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:49 AM pal joey  wrote:
>>> Stop calling it a "vaccine"  and supporting creepy censorship to hide the 
>>> injuries and deaths,  and going along with FDA SUPPRESSION of true,  
>>> effective, life saving protocols.  


Re: CS>3 stage disease

2021-10-04 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
The real 3 stages.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33556957/

Somebody had to add the truth.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 4:24 PM Max  wrote:

> I found out that covid is a two or three stage disease in about april of
> 2020 by reading papers on pubmed.  This is the pivotal knowledge.  It was
> known way back then that the viral stage is over in about a week, that
> everyone, including the ones who go on to die have plenty of antibodies,
> that the severe and mortal stages of the disease are driven by a
> disregulated immune response, that the patients are no longer infectious.
> This means that antibodies are not the answer to severe covid.
>
> The vaccines are useless for people already in the hospital. Everyone will
> develop immunity...which is opposite to the tale that nobody is immune to
> this novel virus and you will die without a vaccine.  The immune system is
> working, we are immune. Its false to say nobody is immune.Many, and
> maybe everyone has some level of cross immunity from prior infections.
>
> This knowledge that covid is a three stage disease is paramount to
> understanding how to treat it,  and has huge implications for all of the
> political features we see, like the vaccination push, the lockdowns, the
> young, passports etc.   Its key, but nobody sees it.  Its like a mass
> blindness, even among experts.
>
> The young who do not die dont have more antibodies than the old who do
> die.  Healthy people will disable the virus in their nose and lung
> mucosa.   The nature of our mucosa is important as the viral intrusion and
> replication is pH dependent.  Many people have thick, unhealthy mucosa due
> to diet and air pollution.This front line of immunity, the IgA and
> killer cells and all the extremely complicated action going on is key to
> keep the virus from getting everywhere in the body.   Building antibodies
> in the blood stream by injections of any kind is not right on basic
> principles.   If the virus invades the front lines of defense, its a sign
> the patient is already compromised.  But even with the invasion, everyone
> disables the virus.
>
> Thats the first, non deadly stage.   The second stage is the
> hyperinflammatory stage.   Antibodies are not a cure for
> hyperinflammation.  For this reason, I predicted a year ago that the
> vaccines would not decrease all cause mortality.  How could they, when the
> causes of severe covid, the second and third stage, are multifactoral?
> People die because they are not healthy, not because they lack
> antibodies.   The only cure for covid is to get healthy.  For the older
> people who inevitably have hugely diminished thymus and bone marrow
> functions, damping the inflammatory response by exogenous agents may be
> required.
>
> The third stage is blood clotting.  The clotting factors may be quite
> complicated.  The spike protein itself,  reproduced by the mRNA vaccines,
> appears to be thrombotic.  Thus the vaccines duplicated the parthenogenesis
> or etiology of covid, while not assisting the front lines of defense.  (a
> small impact on IgA antibodies has been detected from the vaccines, to be
> fair)  This seems obvious, yet the world turns a blind eye.   This
> blindness seems to be mass hysteria and psychosis.
>
> regards
>
> Max
> On 10/3/2021 10:51 PM, hanan bissar wrote:
>
> Sorry if I missed the discussion but where is the "covid is a 3 stage
> disease" coming from?
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 3:27 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> hanan bissar says
>>
>> "I thought this group was about CS?"
>>
>>
>> quite right Hanan.  Its a silver forum.   We can say that since covid is
>> a three stage disease, and silver may only address stage one, that
>> silver alone may not be sufficient.
>>
>> Was there something you wanted to add?
>>
>>
>>


Re: CS>3 stage disease

2021-10-04 Thread Max
I found out that covid is a two or three stage disease in about april of 
2020 by reading papers on pubmed.  This is the pivotal knowledge.  It 
was known way back then that the viral stage is over in about a week, 
that everyone, including the ones who go on to die have plenty of 
antibodies, that the severe and mortal stages of the disease are driven 
by a disregulated immune response, that the patients are no longer 
infectious.   This means that antibodies are not the answer to severe 
covid.


The vaccines are useless for people already in the hospital. Everyone 
will develop immunity...which is opposite to the tale that nobody is 
immune to this novel virus and you will die without a vaccine.  The 
immune system is working, we are immune. Its false to say nobody is 
immune.    Many, and maybe everyone has some level of cross immunity 
from prior infections.


This knowledge that covid is a three stage disease is paramount to 
understanding how to treat it,  and has huge implications for all of the 
political features we see, like the vaccination push, the lockdowns, the 
young, passports etc.   Its key, but nobody sees it.  Its like a mass 
blindness, even among experts.


The young who do not die dont have more antibodies than the old who do 
die.  Healthy people will disable the virus in their nose and lung 
mucosa.   The nature of our mucosa is important as the viral intrusion 
and replication is pH dependent.  Many people have thick, unhealthy 
mucosa due to diet and air pollution.    This front line of immunity, 
the IgA and killer cells and all the extremely complicated action going 
on is key to keep the virus from getting everywhere in the body.   
Building antibodies in the blood stream by injections of any kind is not 
right on basic principles.   If the virus invades the front lines of 
defense, its a sign the patient is already compromised.  But even with 
the invasion, everyone disables the virus.


Thats the first, non deadly stage.   The second stage is the 
hyperinflammatory stage.   Antibodies are not a cure for 
hyperinflammation.  For this reason, I predicted a year ago that the 
vaccines would not decrease all cause mortality.  How could they, when 
the causes of severe covid, the second and third stage, are 
multifactoral?   People die because they are not healthy, not because 
they lack antibodies.   The only cure for covid is to get healthy.  For 
the older people who inevitably have hugely diminished thymus and bone 
marrow functions, damping the inflammatory response by exogenous agents 
may be required.


The third stage is blood clotting.  The clotting factors may be quite 
complicated.  The spike protein itself,  reproduced by the mRNA 
vaccines, appears to be thrombotic.  Thus the vaccines duplicated the 
parthenogenesis or etiology of covid, while not assisting the front 
lines of defense.  (a small impact on IgA antibodies has been detected 
from the vaccines, to be fair)  This seems obvious, yet the world turns 
a blind eye.   This blindness seems to be mass hysteria and psychosis.


regards

Max

On 10/3/2021 10:51 PM, hanan bissar wrote:
Sorry if I missed the discussion but where is the "covid is a 3 stage 
disease" coming from?


On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 3:27 PM Max > wrote:


hanan bissar says

"I thought this group was about CS?"


quite right Hanan.  Its a silver forum.   We can say that since
covid is
a three stage disease, and silver may only address stage one, that
silver alone may not be sufficient.

Was there something you wanted to add?




Re: CS>

2021-10-04 Thread Cyndiann Phillips
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/?utm_campaign=theintercept_medium=social_source=twitter

Read that and wake  the fuck up.

You are dying while these corporations are raking in money.

And they know they are killing you!

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:30 AM Rick  wrote:

>
> Pal Joey,
> And now they are coming out with yet another new drug that mimics
> Ivermectin but costs much more money. Laughing!
> Of course, this is also a reason why Ivermectin was banned for many, so
> that they could bring out a near copy and make far more money with the new
> and near-identical twin!
>
> Get your Ivermectin from AFLD or one of the other groups of doctors on the
> right side of history. Or get your immune system back into shape by
> oxidizing those pathogens giving it breathing room to do its best again.
>
> Covid, these shots, and more are now starting to fall apart. More and more
> are starting to see past the censorship walls. Keep it up, people!
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:49 AM pal joey  wrote:
>
>> Stop calling it a "vaccine"  and supporting creepy censorship to hide the
>> injuries and deaths,  and going along with FDA SUPPRESSION of true,
>> effective, life saving protocols.
>>
>


Re: CS>Inhaling h202

2021-10-04 Thread ejohns9525
Dr Mercola  had a learning video on inhaling h202 using a nubulizer.  It should 
be mixed with saline solution which has also been premixed with distilled 
water.  He goes into detail as to why and how it is more effective.   Dr Sirus 
is also a proponent of this.     Mercola also stated this should not be used  
if you are not sick just when you know you have a bug attacking the respiratory 
function.   Edith


-Original Message-
From: hanan bissar 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2021 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Inhaling h202

Umm...what's wrong with using CS?Why are people speaking about everything else 
but the many uses of CS here?I'm confused.
My son had a boogie bug a few weeks ago. Cough, likely slight fever, runny 
nose, complained of his arms aching. I had him nebulize CS every couple hours 
and he was good as new with no residual cough or anything, in 3 days.
I snorted CS up my nose by dunking a q-tip in CS and snorting it up each 
nostril...every few hours to ward off getting sick. Never got sick.
No way am I inhaling h202 unless I'm out of silver.
On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 4:18 PM pal joey  wrote:

I learned of the protocol of inhaling h202, from the bill munroe yt videos. I 
was using this religiously in the early months of the scamdemic. I have the 
misting bottles that nasal sprays come in. You want the kind that has a 
removable nozzle. Wash it out thoroughly, and fill approx halfway with 3% from 
the drugstore. I don't worry about this kind, vs food grade. People talk about 
diluting 35% food grade h202, but few of us know for certain thats what we have 
when it arrives, so trying to make 3% is not guaranteed accurate. So I stick to 
3% in the brown bottle. I'm not  overusing it anyway, and I've used it for 
several years with no problems. Plenty of yt vids of doctors demonstrating it. 
You can carry it in your pocket, mist your shirt, hands, and face before you go 
in a public place, do it again when you come out. Empty your lungs; mist as you 
inhale near your mouth, hold a few seconds, repeat.    You could even do it in 
a crowd, and people will think you're just another drone on prescribed meds.    
                              On a side note; several years back, I used to 
make CS, and drank it often. On a few occasions,  I added a few drops of h202. 
What I remember most, was that it became "energetic". Its been a long time, but 
we had discussions here about it. 


Re: CS>

2021-10-04 Thread hanan bissar
Interesting, thank you for explaining your experience. Are you healed of
the hepatitis at this point?

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 6:23 AM pal joey  wrote:

> My use of CS has been inconclusive (to me) I was making gallons of it, and
> drinking it, with no noticeable relief from hepatitis C.  I admit I'm no
> expert,  but I followed all instructions, and tested it, going  along for
> months or years, I've forgotten now, but clearly no improvement.  Otoh,
> there have always been debates here about which is best, and I didn't feel
> like I had the luxury of continued research; I needed help immediately.
> So, I fell back on my tried and true protocols of oxidative and vitamin C
> therapies. I'm sure by now,
> that the dedicated members here have sorted out the details and developed
> best protocols, but again, I don't have time and money to figure out what
> is best re CS.
>  I referenced yt vids of actual doctors promoting h202 inhalation, and
> offered my own experience,  but if you're still not convinced, then its not
> for you. Just like CS is not working for me at this time.Even if i had
>  proper CS as a plan,, I would still be looking into other plans as
> backup.   I know without doubt that titrating
> to bowel tolerance with vitamin C works from a 25 year history of using it.
> I also know that oxidative therapies help, again from 25 years of intense
> experience. And I consider inhalation of h202 much less toxic and
> problematic that the hand sanitizers people are asked to use when entering
> a grocery store.  And also more effective.
>


Re: CS>Are my posts being seen? Yes

2021-10-04 Thread hanan bissar
Awesome...I hope he continues to get better!

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 5:52 AM Ode Coyote  wrote:

> yes
> This from here, posted on PrepperNet
> Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully
> vaxed husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill
> from COVID after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the
> hospital was full, but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]
>
> He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit
> up in bed and getting worse.
>
>  Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it
> with silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would
> settle mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.
>
>  Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.
>
> Updates when I get em.
> Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24
>
>
>
> This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever,
> walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.
> Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24
>
> Ode
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:
>
>> I've seen, and just responded.
>> Linda
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"hanan bissar" 
>> *Date: *Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm
>> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *CS>Are my posts being seen?
>> I posted earlier but did not see it in the archives. Please let me know
>> if you see this post.
>>
>> ~Hanan
>>
>


CS>Lyme?

2021-10-04 Thread pal joey
I don't recall if you said you had Lyme, but if thats the case, then I'll
just tell about my  recent case. I was given doxicycline,  then I followed
up with oregano oil, something like 10 drops in water, 3x a day,  along
with a tincture called cryptolepsis, serrazymes from NOW, and this seems to
have taken care of the problem.


CS>

2021-10-04 Thread pal joey
My use of CS has been inconclusive (to me) I was making gallons of it, and
drinking it, with no noticeable relief from hepatitis C.  I admit I'm no
expert,  but I followed all instructions, and tested it, going  along for
months or years, I've forgotten now, but clearly no improvement.  Otoh,
there have always been debates here about which is best, and I didn't feel
like I had the luxury of continued research; I needed help immediately.
So, I fell back on my tried and true protocols of oxidative and vitamin C
therapies. I'm sure by now,
that the dedicated members here have sorted out the details and developed
best protocols, but again, I don't have time and money to figure out what
is best re CS.
 I referenced yt vids of actual doctors promoting h202 inhalation, and
offered my own experience,  but if you're still not convinced, then its not
for you. Just like CS is not working for me at this time.Even if i had
 proper CS as a plan,, I would still be looking into other plans as
backup.   I know without doubt that titrating
to bowel tolerance with vitamin C works from a 25 year history of using it.
I also know that oxidative therapies help, again from 25 years of intense
experience. And I consider inhalation of h202 much less toxic and
problematic that the hand sanitizers people are asked to use when entering
a grocery store.  And also more effective.


CS>Ode, vaporizer vs. humidifier.

2021-10-04 Thread Linda Ellis
This is a very interesting report.  Can you help me understand the difference 
between a vaporizer and a humidifier?

From: "Ode Coyote" silverpuppy1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 7:52 am
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAre my posts being seen? Yes


  yes


  This from here, posted on PrepperNet




  Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully 
vaxed husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill from 
COVID after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the hospital was 
full, but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]



He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit up in 
bed and getting worse.



Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it with 
silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would settle 
mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.



Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.



Updates when I get em.

Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24







This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever, 
walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.

Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24






  Ode








  On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis 
  li...@mayaluga.com wrote:





   I've seen, and just responded.

Linda




   From:
   "hanan bissar" hanabell...@gmail.com


   Date: Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm


   To:
   silver-list@eskimo.com


   Subject: CSAre my posts being seen?



I posted earlier but did notsee it in the archives. Please let me know if 
you see this post.




 ~Hanan






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Re: CS>Are my posts being seen? Yes

2021-10-04 Thread Ode Coyote
yes
This from here, posted on PrepperNet
Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully
vaxed husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill
from COVID after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the
hospital was full, but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]

He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit up
in bed and getting worse.

 Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it with
silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would settle
mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.

 Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.

Updates when I get em.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24



This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever,
walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24

Ode

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:

> I've seen, and just responded.
> Linda
>
> --
> *From: *"hanan bissar" 
> *Date: *Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm
> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *CS>Are my posts being seen?
> I posted earlier but did not see it in the archives. Please let me know if
> you see this post.
>
> ~Hanan
>


CS>Help! Nerve jerkings/ involuntary movements

2021-10-04 Thread jenny goodhealth
What do with the nerve jerkings started on August 12?  Initially, started from 
extremities, now they have spread to arms and legs as well as the body, causing 
involuntary movements.  They are so violent that they even woke me up from 
sleeping a couple of times.   Diagnosed with Lyme, mycoplasma fermentan 
icognitious, Bartonella & babesia.   My guess is that mycoplasma fermentan 
icognitious & may be also Bartonella causes the nerve jerking. Blood work over 
2 months ago shows low B12 & folic acid.   But since then, I have been taking a 
B12 & B complex daily.   
Does anyone have similar symptoms before.   Please advise on what to do 
immediately.    
Thanks


Jen 

CS>Here's the video showing/findng“ Tentacled organism” contents of Moderna vial, seemingly alive.

2021-10-04 Thread Douglas Haack
 
Dr. Carrie Madej: First U.S. Lab Examines "Vaccine" Vials, HORRIFIC Findings 
Revealed

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Dr. Carrie Madej joined Stew Peters today and appeared obviously shook by what 
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https://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/videos/videos/show/19091871-critically-thinking-with-dr-carrie-madej-and-dr-christine-northrup-tentacled-organism-identified-

She had described seeing what appeared to be a “tentacled organism” in the 
contents of the Moderna vial that was seemingly alive. Experts have come back 
with potential candidates for its identification, either Hydra vulgaris or 
Polypodium hydriforme, both of which are members of the Cnidaria phylum and are 
the distant freshwater cousins of corals and jellyfish, several species of 
which have dynamic characteristics of interest to Big Pharma.
  

CS>Described seeing what appeared to be a “tentacled organism” in the contents of the Moderna vial that was seemingly alive.

2021-10-04 Thread Douglas Haack
https://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/videos/videos/show/19091871-critically-thinking-with-dr-carrie-madej-and-dr-christine-northrup-tentacled-organism-identified-

She had described seeing what appeared to be a “tentacled organism” in the 
contents of the Moderna vial that was seemingly alive. Experts have come back 
with potential candidates for its identification, either Hydra vulgaris or 
Polypodium hydriforme, both of which are members of the Cnidaria phylum and are 
the distant freshwater cousins of corals and jellyfish, several species of 
which have dynamic characteristics of interest to Big Pharma.


Re: CS>Dr McCullough

2021-10-04 Thread hanan bissar
So Max, if you believe in "Covid" and the Sars CoV-2 virus, then that would
mean that you believe that the PCR is capable of discovering and diagnosing
a virus...is that correct?

Because according to the primary documentation on the CDC website, it is
stated that the Wuhan dude was admitted to the hospital with bacterial
pneumonia and they tested some throat or lung fluid and voila!...
eureka!... discovered and "diagnosed" the first case of Sars CoV-2...USING
PCR.

Your thoughts?

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 6:25 PM Max  wrote:

> One of Dr McCulloughs more informative and powerful presentations
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-IgAxwSfzU
>
>
> On 10/3/2021 6:02 PM, Max wrote:
> > I think this video with Dr Marik and Dr McCullough gives a good
> > explanation of covid, why the conventional narrative is criminal, and
> > ways to treat covid.  It gets technical, but lots of insight is still
> > available.   I notice the great results from Curcumin and Black
> > seed. For people who dont believe there is covid or any sars cov 2
> > virus, I wonder how they explain the clinical experience of these hard
> > working doctors who tell us covid is not the regular flu and requires
> > a multi drug approach
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZah_bT9A-k
> >
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