Re: CSLate stage last-ditch cancer therapy

[Jodi W Menard]

Jonathan B. Britten wrote on 5/15/2007, 9:07 PM:

   I am inquiring on behalf of a person near to death.  Has anyone on
   this list seen any remarkable recoveries or spontaneous remissions
   with use of large quantities of EIS? I am familiar with R.0.
   Becker's amazing research, but that did not include cancer treatment
   or internal consumption of EIS.

Hi Jonathan.

Although to my knowledge, Dr. Becker did no studies on someone in the 
last stages of cancer, his research findings did show that silver ions 
dedifferentiate cancer cells back to healthy ones.

http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm

Can your friend still eat and drink?  Because, in addition to EIS/CS, I 
heard on the news sometime back about a young man who cured his terminal 
cancer by just eating apple seeds, and others have had success with the 
Budwig Diet (based on flax seed oil and cottage cheese).

I was also in touch with a woman a while back who cured herself of
cancer by taking baths with hydrogen peroxide added.  And there is a 
group on Yahoo about oralperoxide or ozone (don't remember the name) 
that I used to be on that was run by Dr. Sol, who seemed to swear by 
ozone saunas regardless of the stage of cancer.

Here's this too:
Snipped From  -  http://www.cancertutor.com/index.html

A Stage IV cancer should only be treated with the most potent of the
alternative cancer treatments. These patients are in a very dangerous
situation and time is critical, thus their treatment should be among the
strongest.
***

The current list of Stage IV treatments are the following (in
alphabetical order):

1) Amazon Factor (**),
2) Bill Henderson Protocol (*/**),
3) Bob Beck Protocol (*/++),
4) Brandt Grape Cure using red, purple or black grapes (*/++),
5) Cesium Chloride and DMSO (*/**),
6) DPT - DMSO Potentiation Therapy (*/***) – used only with IPT,
7) Hydrazine Sulfate (*/**) – for Cachexia patients only,
8) IPT - Insulin Potentiation Therapy (*/***) (best if used with DPT),
9) IVC - Intravenous Vitamin C Therapy (*/***),
10) Ozone infusion bottle (*/***),
11) Ozone liquid I.V. (*/***),
12) Ozone RHP (i.e. Ozone gas I.V.) (*/**)

Codes:
* - These are treatments for which there is an article on this website,
** - These are treatments for which there is expert telephone support
from the vendor,
++ - Technical support comes from Cancer Tutor,
*** - These are treatments that are generally given only at clinics

[see http://www.cancertutor.com for more]

I hope this helps your friend somehow.

Jodi


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Re: CS

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Jessie - 

I just sent you a fairly long response from Poison Control off-list.
Hope you got it. If not let me know. Jodi 

jessie70 wrote on 5/12/2007, 2:57 PM:



  many of you seem so
knowledgeable. Does anyone have a suggestion to give a dog who has
possibly eating ant poison? Thanks, Jess





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Re: CSEstheticians and Healthworkers

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Doris - 

I guess you could consider me a healthworker, since I've been trained
by Children's Hospital to take care of a kid with a tracheostomy and
gastrostomy and have to keep things sterile. I use store-bought 3%
hydrogen peroxide to sterilize everything. I would imagine CS/EIS
would work, but you'd have to keep the instruments immersed in the CS
for 6 minutes, since that's how long it took in laboratory testing to
kill various germs with CS, from what I've read. In my opinion though,
probably peroxide (or alcohol?) would be best for metal instruments.

Hope this helps.

Jodi

Cinder Ella wrote on 5/10/2007, 8:35 PM:



  
  Anyone who is out there who is a
healthcare worker or an esthetician, has anyone been using CS/EIS for
"sterilizing" their manicure pedicure instruments? Would this work?
Considering it is anti bacterial/fungal/viral? Has anyone done any
experimentation on facials and CS/EIS? Has anyone ever done any
empirical testing on instruments after cleansing with CS/EIS?
  
  Doris
  
   




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Re: CSSupplement -v- Drugs

[Jodi W Menard]

ekowal...@aol.com wrote on 5/9/2007, 11:34 PM:

  Chicken soup
  is used for colds therapeutically but the body rarely produces chicken
  soup internally.

That's funny.  [grin]  Jodi


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Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You

[Jodi W Menard]

I thought that accusation was very strange Dee.  And she said it more 
than once too!  You didn't twist anything Dear.  Jodi

Dee wrote on 5/10/2007, 10:48 AM:

  I  am baffled.  How did I do that? I was only asking a question as far
  as I am aware.  Dee
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Garnet
  Date: 10/05/2007 14:01:50
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSFood as Medicine - Antioxidants Good or Bad For You
 
 
  Dee was twisting the point of the discussion again.


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Re: CSapology

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Kathryn -

May I ask why you think Dee owes Janet an apology?  Janet said a couple 
of things to Dee that seemed rude to me.  Remember that tsk, tsk 
statement, or her accusing Dee of twisting her words, twice, when she 
didn't?  I didn't think any of that was warranted.

Jodi

Clayton Family wrote on 5/10/2007, 2:52 PM:

  Janet unsubbed, so she did not get your apology. Maybe you could send
  it you her personal email. She has a valuable point of view, and it
  would be nice if she could consider resubbing.
 
  Kathryn


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Re: CSPet Food

[Jodi W Menard]

Uh oh.  I was told raw bones were good.  Can one of the experts here on 
raw feeding tell me for sure if they are okay or not?   I've been giving 
my dog raw chicken legs along with some Pedigree canned and it seems 
he's been doing fine on them, but.?

Jodi

Garnet wrote on 5/9/2007, 9:24 AM:

  Bones can cause problems for dogs. Even the raw feeding lists will tell
  you this. If you have a dog that bolts its food be very careful about
  introducing bones. They can kill.
 
  Janet
 
  Pat wrote:
   Oh, I agree that organic meat surely would be the best diet for a
  dog.  It's just that my dog was so messed up when I was feeding
  itmaybe she didn't chew the bones enough.  Then a vet tech told me
  that where she worked, they'd done several surgeries to remove bone
  which was causing a blockage.  She won't feed bones of any kind to her
  dogs.


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Re: CSPet Food

[Jodi W Menard]

Thank you Barbara. 

Barbara wrote on 5/9/2007, 11:06 AM: [snipped]



  Jodi,
  
  
  
  I'm definitely not an expert
but I feed my Chihuahuas raw meat and bones for 9 years. Juat want to
say that only raw bones are safe as they do not splinter. 





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Re: CSRaw Feeding for Pets

[Jodi W Menard]

Thank you for all of that. :-)

s...@emotap.com wrote on 5/9/2007, 11:31 AM:

  I wanted to post this to the Off Topic list, but am instead replying
  to the list as that is where this topic was generated.


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Re: CSPet Food

[Jodi W Menard]

Thank you Dee. :-)

Dee wrote on 5/9/2007, 12:48 PM:

  Hi Jodie, I'm no expert but you are fine with any raw bones.


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RE: CSPet Food

[Jodi W Menard]

Wendy wrote on 5/9/2007, 5:51 PM:

[snipped]

  This new dog was chewing a  bone  I had given him -  roughly a 10
  curved beef rib bone.

10 and he was fine?  Amazing.  But, was it a raw bone, Wendy?  Thanks. 
  Jodi


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Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)

[Jodi W Menard]

Garnet wrote on 5/9/2007, 7:19 AM:

  Huh, best -- now you are taking my word and twisting them Dee. Tsk,
  tsk, this makes your position look very weak if you have to resort to
  those sort of tactics. Better back that bus up cause it's not helping
  your credibility in this discussion.

No offense, Janet, but I didn't think that Dee's position was weak, at all.

Jodi



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Re: CSMelamine chemical reaction in pet food recall (OT)

[Jodi W Menard]

Garnet wrote on 5/7/2007, 9:17 AM:

  Even BHT is a good antioxidant and does not actually cause cancer --
  give enough of anything to a lab rat bred to get cancer and well, it
  gets cancer. I use BHT therapeutically to kill herpes, any envelope
  virus actually.

Hi Janet -

The Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) advises that we 
should avoid BHA and BHT altogether, so wouldn't colloidal silver and/or 
hydrogen peroxide be a better and safer bet?  I'm wondering why you 
would use BHT at all, when we have silver?

My close friend had a herpes outbreak which she confided in me about and 
she told me the silver I gave her, along with the h202 she used, made it 
start to go away as soon as she started using it. Pretty impressive I 
though.

Here's something else I just found, which also confirms the cancer 
connection.

 From http://www.sweetpoison.com/food-additives-to-avoid.html

BHA  BHT
These two closely related chemicals are added to oil-containing foods to 
prevent oxidation and retard rancidity. The International Agency for 
Research on Cancer, part of the World Health Organization, consider BHA 
to be possibly carcinogenic to humans, and the State of California has 
listed it as a carcinogen. Some studies show the same cancer causing 
possibilities for BHT.

BHT and BHA are totally unnecessary. To avoid them read the label. 
Because of the possibility that BHT and BHA might cause cancer, both 
should be phased out of our food supply. To play it safe, phase them out 
of your diet.

Jodi


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CSRe: SOCS: re food nutrients

[Jodi W Menard]

Harold MacDonald wrote on 5/7/2007, 5:19 PM:

  In the US Library of Congress there is a document that was filed in
  the mid 1930s;'34/'35/'36 by a Congessional commission that stated
  that the food being grown as of that time was very deficient in
  nutritive value and it was imperative that a drastic change in farming
  methods be made.

It's called Senate Document 264, which was presented to the 2nd Session 
of the 74th Congress in 1936.

  Was anything done???very little if any change because chemical
  fertilizers were so much cheaper.Consequently the food is sorely in
  need of something,and I see it as supplementing.There is no way I can
  eat enough fresh,raw foods to get the right amount of nutrients.How
  else do you explain the poor health of so many people,the huge cost to
  the medical system?

Right on Harold.  Touche'

  At one time an apple a day kept the Dr. away,now it would take 26
  apples a day to do it.
  I had the link to said document but lost it some years ago when my
  comp. died.

There were a couple parts of this document that blew my mind when I read 
it, because back then, I didn't know as much about the effects of 
nutritional deficencies.  I'll never forget the part about the research 
done on mice, or what was said about spinach.

The full document can be read here:

http://www.crystal-loid.com/264/sen264.htm

[Just keep clicking 'next' at the bottom right after reading each page.]

Jodi



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Re: CSCS gel other burn remedies

[Jodi W Menard]

Carol
Ann wrote on 5/6/2007, 5:41 PM:



  Jimson weed is both used
by witches to "fly"
   
  
   
  Hey Ode,
   
  Airline tickets are
getting ratherexpensive these days, not to mention what a harassment
Home land security is.
   
  
   
  So, where do I get Jimson
weed? :)

[LOL] 

[grin] Thanks for the laugh Carol Anne. 

Jodi




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CSRE: CS gel other burn remedies/Chlorine Bleach

[Jodi W Menard]

Dee, I think you've got it right.  Chlorine bleach is highly toxic and 
has been linked to cancer, artherosclerosis, asthma, disrupting the 
endocrine system (hormones), and more.  We'd be alot better off if they 
used silver or ozone (maybe even hydrogen peroxide?) to disinfect our 
water supply.

Someone here mentioned bathing in chlorine bleach.  [Yikes]  Not good. 
Don't do it folks.

From
http://www.internethealthlibrary.com/Environmental-Health/Chlorine-and-cancer.htm

Environmental Health Issues
Water

Cancer  Chlorine

Is the chlorine in our drinking water acting as catalyst triggering 
tumor development both in atherosclerosis and cancer? The addition of 
chlorine to our drinking water started in the late 1890’s and had wide 
acceptance in the United States by 1920. Joseph Price, M. D, wrote a 
fascinating yet largely ignored book in the late 1960’s, entitled 
Coronaries Cholesterol. Chlorine, Dr Price believes, is the primary and 
essential cause of atherosclerosis is chlorine. Nothing can negate the 
incontrovertible fact the basic cause of atherosclerosis and resulting 
entities, such as heart attacks and most common forms of stokes is 
chlorine. The chlorine contained in processed drinking water. (1)

This conclusion is based on experiments using chlorine in the drinking 
water of chickens. The results: 95% of the chickens given chlorine added 
to distilled water developed atherosclerosis within a few months.

Atherosclerosis, heart attacks and the resulting problems of hardening 
of the arteries and plaque formation is really the last step in a series 
of biochemical malfunctions. Price points out it takes ten to twenty 
years before symptoms in humans become evident In many ways, this is 
reminiscent of cancer which can take twenty to thirty years to develop.

Can chlorine be linked to cancer too? In the chlorination process 
itself, chlorine combines with natural organic matter decaying 
vegetation to form potent cancer causing trihalomethanes (THM’s) or 
haloforms. Trihalomethanes collectively include such carcinogens as 
chloroforms, bromoforms carbon tectachloride, bischlorothane and others. 
The amount of THM’s in our drinking water is theoretically regulated by 
the EPA. Although the maximum amount allowed by law is 100 ppb, a 1976 
study showed 31 of 112 municipal water systems exceeded this limit. (2)

According to some studies by 1975, the number of chemical contaminants 
found in finished drinking water exceeded 300. (3) In 1984 over 700 
chemicals had been found in our drinking water The EPA has targeted 129 
as posing the greatest threat to our health, Currently the EPA enforces 
federal standards for 34 drinking water contaminants. In July, 1990 they 
proposed adding 23 new ones and expects this list increasing to 85 in 
1992. (4)

Another report claims the picture is much worse. According to Troubled 
Waters on Tap over 2100 contaminants have been detected in U. S. 
drinking water since 1974 with 190 known or suspected to cause adverse 
health effects at certain concentration levels. In total, 97 carcinogens 
and suspected carcinogens, 82 mutagens and suspected mutagens, 28 acute 
and chronic toxic contaminants and 23 tumor promoters have been detected 
in U. S. drinking water since 1974. The remaining 90% of the organic 
matter present in drinking water has not been identified by testing to-date.

Compounds in these concentration could pose serious toxic effects, 
either alone or in combination with other chemicals found in drinking 
water. Overall, available scientific evidence continues to substantiate 
the link between consumption of toxins in drinking water and serious 
public health concerns, Studies have strengthened the association 
between ingestion of toxins and elevated cancer mortality risks(5)

Studies in New Orleans, Louisiana; Eric County, New York, Washington 
County Maryland, Ohio County, Ohio reveal high levels of haloforms or 
THM ‘s in drinking water. The result – higher levels of cancer. (6) (7) 
(8) (9)

‘The continued use of chlorine as the main drinking water disinfectant 
in the United States only adds to the organic chemical contamination of 
drinking water supplies. The current federal standard regulation of 
trihalomethanes do not adequately protect water consumers from the 
multitude of other organic chlorination by-products that have been shown 
in many studies to be mutagenic and toxic’(5)

Chlorine is so dangerous according to biologist/chemist Dr. Herbert 
Schwartz, that Is should be banned. Putting chlorine In the water is 
like starting a time bomb. Cancer heart trouble, premature senility, 
both mental and physical are conditions attributable to chlorine, 
treated water supplies. It is making us grow old before our time by 
producing symptoms of ageing such as hardening of the arteries. I 
believe if chlorine were now proposed for the first time to be used in 
drinking water it would be banned by the Food and Drug Administration.(10)

Re: CSNancy deserves better.

[Jodi W Menard]

I thought I read in that article that there was an electric cart of some 
type near the hot tub.  That could certainly explain how 2 died 
accidentally.

I don't believe it was suicide. I wasn't in touch with Nancy recently, 
but when I was, she didn't seem depressed to me at all.  She was 
motivated and positive.  Besides, her husband of all people would know 
if it could have been suicide.  If he doesn't believe it was, then I 
don't either.

I'll remember Nancy as a special person. She felt CS cured her MS and 
she gave of herself endlessly to get the word out and to help others. 
She offered to be there for anyone who needed her, at any time.  Seems 
to me that could have been what she was doing when she died - trying to 
help someone.

Did she have children? My heart goes out to her husband, her family and 
her close friends for their loss.

Jodi

Robb Allen wrote on 5/2/2007, 9:47 AM:

  To be honestthe fact that two people died in the Hot tub makes it
  sound
  more like a suicide to me than if only 1 were there.  The odds of an
  accident with 2 are very very remote.  I talked to Nancy many many
  times and
  she will be missed.Robb


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Re: CSiodine allergy to Sol/Betadine

[Jodi W Menard]

One of the ingredients in Betadine is called Nonoxynol-9, which is an 
irritant.  It is so irritating that it can actually cause tears in 
mucous membranes and other sensitive areas, along with outbreaks of 
rashes on the skin.  That can probably explain some folks' reaction.

Here are all of the ingredients in Betadine.

Snipped from HTML version of
http://www.pharma.com/PI/NonPrescription/A6910B16.pdf.

Betadine Surgical Scrub - Drug Facts

Active ingredient:   Povidone-iodine, 7.5%–(0.75% available iodine)

Inactive ingredients:   ammonium nonoxynol-4 sulfate, nonoxynol-9,
purified water, sodium hydroxide

Jodi

Cinder Ella wrote on 4/8/2007, 2:54 PM:
[snipped]

  It is really strange that topically it bothers you and internally it
  doesn't.  Perhaps you're allergic to the other ingredient in the
  Betadine? and not the iodine?
  Are you allergic to Shellfish?
  Doris
 
  V wrote:
  Sounds as though there is Iodine in the Betadine?
  Funny, I am allergic to Betadine but have no problems with Iodine.
  Now I am thinking its all in my head...puzzled.  V



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Re: CSlow sodium on blood test

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Ruth -

The full study costs about $32.00 but the summary of it is all 
laypersons like us really need to read.

Here it is:

Acute colonic surgery and unrecognized hypothyroidism: A Warning -
Report of Six Cases - Diseases of the Colon  Rectum

Abstract   PURPOSE: This study was designed to highlight the
significant morbidity related to undetected hypothyroidism in the
elderly who are undergoing emergency surgery.

METHOD: Case reports of six patients who presented with acute
colonic surgical conditions are reviewed.

RESULTS: Six cases of undetected hypothyroidism in a group of elderly
patients was unmasked at the time of surgery for acute colonic 
conditions or in the perioperative period. These patients experienced 
increased morbidity, but once detected and treated, all but one had an 
uneventful recovery.

CONCLUSION: Unrecognized hypothyroidism may lead to unnecessary surgery
or even a potentially fatal outcome. A heightened awareness of this not 
so uncommon entity is mandatory.


Jodi

ruth strackbein wrote on 4/6/2007, 12:21 PM:

  Hi, Jodi, I could access the first link you gave us.  I printed it
  out.  The second one is limited to members only .  It looked like
  membership may be pretty expensive.  Think the first one gave me
  plenty of information to digest.  Thanks, Ruuth



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Re: CSvita mix to susan and iodine to sol

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Zeb - 

Some in the medical community don't believe there's such a thing as an
iodine allergy. Since it's essential to life and we always have some
of it in our bodies. 

Jodi

zeb caffe wrote on 4/6/2007, 3:03 PM: [snipped]

  sol, have you ever had a
test with contrast dyes? I told a tech that I was allergic and she told
me that I had no choice and that i would need to take appropriate
measure like steroids or benedryl to offset the symptoms. I choose not
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Re: CSvita mix to susan and iodine to sol

[Jodi W Menard]

Well, that's for sure, Chuck.  They're usually in denial about something 
or other, aren't they.  [grin] Jodi

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote on 4/6/2007, 4:14 PM:

  My wife is allergic to benadryl used in all dr offices and hospitals,
  so Some in the medical community are wrong (and foolish)!
 
  Chuck
  Photons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic.



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Re: CSHOT and my results

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Jeannine - Did you
notice any other side effects? If not, I may have to try it. [grin]
Thanks. Jodi

JES AM  PM wrote on 4/6/2007, 5:56 PM: 
[snipped]



  Well List;
  
  
  
  I promised to report back
to you after about 6 - 8 weeks of my "unusual" protocol of
  
  Yucca and Belladonna - 
  
  





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Re: CSlow sodium on blood test

[Jodi W Menard]

Ruth - Please forgive me
for harping on this, but constipation and digestive disturbances are 
symptoms of hypothyroidism, and the report below warns that low thyroid
is especially prevelant 
in older folks with colonic conditions. 

About low sodium (for Paula too): Snipped from:
http://www.emedicine.com/pmr/topic57.htm

"Hyponatremia often is seen in patients with hypothyroidism." 
(Hyponatremia is the medical term for low sodium in the blood.) 

"Hypothyroidism causes a constellation of changes in the body. The lack
of thyroid hormone results in 
slowed or reduced metabolic function, such as decreased protein
turnover and impaired carbohydrate 
metabolism. These metabolic changes occur in many organ systems,
including muscle. Pain with 
muscle exertion is characteristic of defective carbohydrate metabolism."
___

Here's the report: From
http://www.springerlink.com/content/j552v5737392253w/

Acute colonic surgery and unrecognized hypothyroidism: A Warning -
Report of Six Cases
Diseases of the Colon  Rectum

Publisher Springer New York - ISSN 0012-3706 (Print) 1530-0358 (Online)
Subject Medicine - 
Issue Volume 40, Number 7 / July, 1997 - Category Case Reports - DOI
10.1007/BF02055446 - 
Pages 859-861 SpringerLink Date Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Eric
Bergeron1, Andrew Mitchell1, 
Franoise Heyen1 and Serge Dub1

(1) Department of Surgery, Faculty of Medicine, University of
Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Abstract PURPOSE: This study was designed to highlight the
significant morbidity related to undetected 
hypothyroidism in the elderly who are undergoing emergency surgery.
METHOD: Case reports of six 
patients who presented with acute colonic surgical conditions are
reviewed. RESULTS: Six cases of 
undetected hypothyroidism in a group of elderly patients was unmasked
at the time of surgery for acute 
colonic conditions or in the perioperative period. These patients
experienced increased morbidity, but once 
detected and treated, all but one had an uneventful recovery. 

CONCLUSION: Unrecognized hypothyroidism may lead to unnecessary surgery
or even a potentially fatal 
outcome. A heightened awareness of this not so uncommon entity is
mandatory.


I hope this helps.  Jodi

ruth strackbein wrote on 4/4/2007, 4:12 PM:

 Thanks, Paula, I suspect that I may have had excessive stools the
day
 they put me in the hospital and tested my sodium level. I do not
 usually actually have "runs", but rather many formed stools in one
day
 and then diminishing amounts one or two succeeding days. Then
nothing.
 After a day or two, I do something about it because my ascending
colon
 feels tight and full and I begin to pass tiny little narrow
cylinders
 which require huge effort and sometimes, manual intervention.
Sorry if
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Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Jodi W Menard]

Teri, that's amazing!!
I've got to try it. I wonder why it has to be only at night though...?
It would be 
alot easier for me to put it in my morning O.J. instead. I hope it
doesn't matter when you take it, as 
long as you do. Have you noticed any side effects from doing this?
Thank you so much!  Jodi

Teri Johnston wrote on 3/29/2007, 9:44 AM:

  This was discussed on another list i am on and
they recommended 1
teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every
night, for some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine
when you go to the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release
nicotine the craving goes down until you are no longer wanting a
cigarette. I am in my third week of it and am down to maybe having
2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much longer = it does
seem
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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins

[Jodi W Menard]

[sirens]  Thyroid! Thyroid!

A little low?!  And he says it's 'good'?!  Unbelievable. That's 
definitely a low thyroid Ruth and having that is called being 
'hypothyroid'.  Doesn't matter that you can't remember to take your temp 
   3 times in a row in the AM.  Most doctors know so little about this 
it's ridiculous. I didn't get better until I gave up on doctors 
altogether to self-treat.

Subscribe to the Naturalthyroidhormones group at Yahoo to learn more. 
It's a great group and there's lots of information in their files 
section.  (Just ignore what they say about taking hydrocortisone for 
adrenals.)

Jodi

ruth strackbein wrote on 3/23/2007, 11:45 AM:

  I'm not sure, am getting some advice from several people, especiallty
  about low thyroid.  Am in process of trying to remember 3 days in a
  row to take my temperature before getting out of bed.  Either I forget
  altogether, or have to go to the bathroom so badly that that takes
  precedent.  And sometimes I just give up for awhile.  I did take it
  this morning.  97.3  which I suspect is a lilttle low, but it has been
  like that any time of day  like at the doctor's for years and he
  always says it is good. Thanks, Ruth



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Re: CSRE: Vit C- Lymes-Vit D-Calcium/Thyroid

[Jodi W Menard]

Ronald
 Susan Hart wrote on 3/21/2007, 10:28 AM: [snipped]



 As far as calcium deposits
- I've read that is caused by not "just" TOO much calcium in the body
but more likely not enough absorbable or useable calcium.
  
On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:50 PM, zeb
caffe wrote: [snipped]
  

 Speaking of plaque desposits,
does anyone know what 
 it means if you have calcium deposits scattered throughout the
body? I 
 have them in lungs, renal pelvis,tonsils and lymph glands.
  
One of the 9 hormones that
the thyroid puts out, called 'Calcitonin', is responsible for detecting
calcium and then depositing it where it belongs. If you have an
underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), then you will have a deficiency
in calcitonin too. This will eventually cause your bones to suffer
(osteoporosis), your muscles to suffer (leg cramps, muscle weakness,
even heart problems, since your heart is a muscle too), and you won't
be able to absorb calcium (or Vitamin D and phosphorus) properly. 

Hypothyroidism leads to other serious health issues too. It's a known cause of
heart disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, weight
gain, slow metabolism, osteoporosis, edema, inflammation, weakness,
fatigue, depression, muscle and organ atrophy, memory loss, anxiety, a
feeling of being 'spaced' out, dementia, psychiatric symptoms,
irritability - -- lots of diseases and symptoms the pharmaceutical
companies make drugs for. It's the most underdiagnosed and
misdiagnosed condition in the country.

It doesn't make sense that the medical community prescribes calcitonin
for osteoporosis right off the bat, instead of going to the source of
the problem by prescribing the full spectrum of natural thyroid
hormones (Armour). Everyone's thyroid slows down with age, and older
folks are the ones who get osteoporosis. If the thyroid was working
well, there'd be no need to supplement calcitonin, and if there's a
deficiency of that, then there must also be a deficiency of the other 8
thyroid hormones as well. But, I guess making us 100% well isn't
really the goal. [sigh] 

Anyway, to determine if you have an underactive thyroid, all you have
to do is take your temperature. Taking one's temperature and going by
'symptoms' is how underactive thyroids were diagnosed before there was
such a thing as lab tests. Just take your temperature first thing in
the A.M. before rising out of bed. Or, take it then, and then again
once or twice throughout the day for 3 days straight and average them
all out. If they are, or average out to be under 98.2, then you'll
know you're hypothyroid. 

Hope this helps. 

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Re: CSEveryday Products Made Better with Olive Oil - Lee Iacocca's Olivio/TERRI

[Jodi W Menard]

I read that Canola Oil was
not good. Isn't it genetically modified? 
Jodi

vwol...@aol.com wrote on 3/19/2007, 8:41 AM:



  Everyday Products Made Better
with Olive Oil - Lee Iacocca's Olivio Premium Products! 
  
  
  
  Terri Chamberlain...here
is a site you might want to check out...V.






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Re: CSSome Questions/Jodi

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi V.

EIS (electrically isolated silver) is what we make at home with
generators, but is oftentimes also the kind that is commercially sold
and called colloidal silver. I read here some time ago that the only way
to make real CS is with a FDA approved lab and $15,000 worth of
equipment (!).

What I understand is that EIS has over 80% silver 'ions' and under 20%
silver 'atoms' or particles.  Whereas CS has just the opposite at over
80% atoms/particles and less than 20% ions. A silver ion has a positive
charge and is more easily absorbed and assimilated by the body because
it is smaller than a silver atom and is missing an electron.  That
allows it to pass through cell membranes or to attach to other ions. The
atoms in CS are larger and cannot do that unless they are broken down
first.  Whole silver atoms/particles carry a negative charge, and may
not be processed, assimilated, broken down or eliminated as well as
silver ions, and this is probably why the dose one takes of actual CS
must be so conservative (usually 3 tablespoons a day).

We don't have to worry so much about the dose we take of our EIS
because silver ions are easily transported (via metalloproteins),
absorbed and eliminated and are bioavailable in the same way and form as
the nutrients and minerals you absorb by eating your veggies.  I don't
think you can overdose on iron by eating alot of spinach, for example,
because the iron you are getting in that way is in ionic form.

I always thought it was an interesting fact that silver is the best
known conductor of heat and electricity there is. Seems to me that may
be a deeper explanation of how CS and EIS up our immune systems and heal
so well. Since our bodies are made up of atoms that are in essence,
energy, in the form of heat, light and electricity (positive and
negative charges, electrons), silver as a conductor must speed up and
facilitate its flow and transmission.

Anyway, I hope I got all of this right.  And that it helps.

Jodi

vwol...@aol.com wrote on 3/18/2007, 10:30 AM:

  Hi Jodi...thanks for the reply.
  EIS is the same as Colloidal Silver?  [snipped]



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Re: CScholestrol

[Jodi W Menard]

Seafoods like lobster, shrimp and crab (etc.) have alot of cholesterol 
too.  But cholesterol isn't the culprit.  I read that every hormone in 
our bodies is made from it, for one thing.

Linus Pauling (winner of the Nobel Prize and 3 US patents on reversing 
heart disease) said that our bodies slop on cholesterol to repair 
damaged arteries and blood vessels caused by a Vitamin C deficiency, and 
that doctors and researchers misunderstood why they were seeing more 
cholesterol in people who had heart disease.  He also said we should be 
getting like 10 to 12 grams of Vitamin C a day and that humans are the 
only animals that don't manufacture their own and therefore must get it 
from an outside source.  See http://www.paulingtherapy.com/

 From http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/

[snip]

Vitamin C is required for the synthesis of collagen, an important 
structural component of blood vessels, tendons, ligaments, and bone.
_
Jodi

Marshall Dudley wrote on 3/19/2007, 12:23 PM:

  All animal fat contains cholesterol, whether butter, egg yoke, or lard.
  Marshall
 
  Dee wrote:
   I didn't think there *was* any cholesterol in food only eggs and
   prawns and eggs have lecithin to balance this.  Dee



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Re: CSSome Questions/Jodi

[Jodi W Menard]

You're not dumb V.
Really. I knew nothing about this when I started looking into it. Give
yourself some 
time. It's amazing how much there is to learn from the experts here on
this list. 

Very high quality EIS is what we're making at home with our Silver
Puppy (I use that one too). The silver is 
what we're after, whether it's in a colloidal state or electrically
isolated in solution, ions or atoms, they both 
work to heal. (I think they might heal in a different way, but I'm not
sure. See next paragraph.) People call 
EIS colloidal silver all the time, but most of the products on the
market are actually EIS, regardless. If you
want to call it CS, go ahead. Lots of people still do, so why not?
[grin] 

Your question below about the silver utensils is one for the experts
here. I've always wondered if silver atoms 
and particles or ions can detach and be absorbed by the body from a
silver spoon, or whether it has any 
antibiotic effect on just what it touches? Does anyone know if saliva
or the sodium in the body and mouth 
would be enough to break silver atoms or ions away from a silver
spoon? And, can the body then efficiently 
break down silver atoms into ions? If the body can break down silver
atoms and particles into ions, then I 
guess sucking on a silver spoon (grin), taking CS, or EIS all work in
the same way, right? [ugh] 

I
hope one of the experts here can answer some of these questions because
I just don't know. 

Jodi

vwol...@aol.com wrote on 3/19/2007, 1:31 PM:



  
  Jodi...thanks for the
reply.
  
  Sorry to be so dumb...no
excuses, when it comes to CS..I really am:(
  
  
  So then, EIS is what I am
making with the Silver Puppy?
  
  
  
  Am I reading right...The
solution I make and use with the Silver Puppy is not "real" CS but
something called EIS?
  
  
  
  This is all very
interesting...and you explained it well...enough so that I think I get
it.:) 
  
  Thank you V.
  
  
  In a message dated
3/19/2007 1:32:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jwmen...@cox.net writes:
  
  Hi V.

EIS (electrically isolated silver) is what we make at home with
generators, but is oftentimes also the kind that is commercially sold
and called colloidal silver.
I read here some time ago that the only way to make real CS is with a
FDA approved lab and $15,000 worth of equipment (!).

What I understand is that EIS has over 80% silver 'ions' and under 20%
silver 'atoms' or particles. 
Whereas CS has just the opposite at over 80% atoms/particles and less
than 20% ions.(YET THEY BOTH DO THE SAME THING...HEAL?)
A silver ion has a positive charge and is more easily absorbed and
assimilated by the body because it is smaller than a silver atom and is
missing an electron.
That allows it to pass through cell membranes or to attach to other
ions. 
The atoms in CS are larger and cannot do that unless they are broken
down
first.(WOULD THIS BE THE KIND OF SILVER THAT PEOPLE ABSORBED FROM
USINGREAL SILVER EATING UTENSILS IN MEDIEVAL TIMES?)
Whole silver atoms/particles carry a negative charge, and may
not be processed, assimilated, broken down or eliminated as well as
silver ions, and this is probably why the dose one takes of actual CS
must be so conservative (usually 3 tablespoons a day).
  

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Re: CSSome Questions/Jodi

[Jodi W Menard]

I should have also asked
if stomach acids can break down silver into atoms and ions? 

Jodi W Menard wrote on 3/19/2007, 2:49 PM:


 Your question
below about the silver utensils is one for the experts
here. I've always wondered if silver atoms 
 and particles or ions can detach and be absorbed by the body from
a
silver spoon, or whether it has any 
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Re: CSMargarines

[Jodi W Menard]

Found this for you Terry.  Have you tried it before?

http://www.allergygrocer.com/id1084.html

Terry Chamberlin wrote on 3/19/2007, 4:50 PM:

  Both Olivio  Becel contain mostly canola (rape seed)
  oil.
 
  The Earthbalance product is mostly soy oil, which I am
  not sure is a great improvement over canola oil.
 
  Is there no margarine spread that uses only olive oil?



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Re: CSSome Questions

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi V - My 10-year old
son has a tracheostomy and we give him nebulized EIS, along with
Albuterol 
every day. I've read that EIS really helps asthma so I don't think
that's true, but unfortunately I didn't
save the info so I can't point you to it. I nebulized with EIS when I
came down with pneumonia a few
years ago and it really helped me. Jodi 

vwol...@aol.com wrote on 3/17/2007, 9:45 PM:

[snipped]



  I thought I saw a
postabout CS aggravating Asthma?
  
  Is this true?
  
  Its allergy season and I
need to be really watchful.
  
  I do use the Albuterol
Spray when I really really have to but would rather not if I have the
choice.






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Re: CSSome Questions

[Jodi W Menard]

V, I forgot to mention
that
there have been plenty of days I've skipped the Albuterol 
altogether and just gave
him the nebulized EIS, and it seemed to do the exact same 
thing and more. Jodi 

Jodi W Menard wrote on 3/17/2007, 10:04 PM:


Hi V - My 10-year old
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Re: CSenquiry on silver products

[Jodi W Menard]

I took Utopia Silver for a while several years ago. It had a yellow hue 
to it and at that time I believe it was made by adding baking soda or 
salt, but I'm not sure which and I don't know if they've changed it 
since.  I believe the owner (is it Bob?) used to be on this list. Nice 
man.

Jodi

Chee Hoong Lee wrote on 3/13/2007, 1:03 AM:

  Does anyone have experience with the following
  products?

[snipped]

  c) utopiasilver.com (best of all worlds)



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Re: CSNutritional yeast

[Jodi W Menard]

If this is true, what, if any, effect will it have on us? I mean, they 
can't regulate the silver generators and electrodes, right?  Geez, it's 
scary.

Jodi

Tel Tofflemire wrote on 3/6/2007, 7:41 PM:

  Almost All Colloidal Silver To Be Removed From Market
  In Near Future Through Stealth Federal Mandates



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Re: CS:List server ( Unfairly Blamed )

[Jodi W Menard]

Cindy, for the record, I thought your post was gracious and sweet, not 
at all insulting to Mike or anyone else, in any way.  And calling Mike a 
'wonderful leader' was quite a compliment.  Maybe Wayne got up on the 
wrong side of the bed today. [grin] Please don't take the tone of his 
reply to heart.  Jodi

ch...@tx.rr.com wrote on 3/5/2007, 10:36 AM:

  One of the reasons I don't like posting is as hard as I try, my words
  get misconstrued and then I spend time trying to correct myself.  Such
  is life.




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Re: CSGenerators

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Seth - I just love the
Silver Puppy. But I don't think it can make a gallon at a time. Maybe
a half gallon, but I make a mayonnaise jar at a time. I make between 1
and 14 batches a week and the thing just runs and runs and runs without
any problems. Plus, I've only had to buy new silver electrodes (only
$15.00) one time in the (approximately) 5 years since I bought it.
[grin] I'm a very happy customer. Jodi

seth sato wrote on 3/5/2007, 11:47 AM:



  I was curious about various machines
to produce C's and wanting to know what people recommend. 
  
  
  





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Re: CSList server, Large Files

[Jodi W Menard]

I don't know about Netscape, Sol.  But my email program has a filter 
that gives me the option where any mail that arrives from a certain 
location (like the silver list or off-topic list address) can be 
automatically saved to a specific folder that can be backed up to a .zip 
file onto my hard drive so that I can back it up onto a CD.  Does 
Netscape have any options such as these?

Jodi

sol wrote on 3/4/2007, 3:57 PM:

  Dumb computer user question:
  How does one back up email messages to a CD?



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Re: CSMesosilver

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Jerome - 

The kind of plastic that Mesosilver comes in, or the kind that a soda
comes in is actually better than glass, because the silver plates out
on glass which makes the batch weaker. 
Jodi

jerome o connor wrote on 3/3/2007, 10:59 AM:


I got some collodial silver from a
company called mesosilver which came in a plastic bottle.I read on
another site that if it was real colloidal silver it would need to to
be in a glass bottle What are your opinions as, I am new here?
  





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Re: CSOT prozac diabetes??/Lithium danger

[Jodi W Menard]

Do NOT take Lithium. Is
the Orotate form any different from other types of Lithium? I don't
know, but Lithium will stop your thyroid production in its tracks and
damage its ability to 
function causing hypothyroidism and goiter (an enlarged thyroid). This
will make you fat, 
depressed and in way more emotional and physical pain than you were in
before. Plus, 
the medical community does not effectively diagnose and treat an
underactive thyroid problem,
so the chances of you getting the help you'll need will be slim. It took me 30 years to get the 
proper diagnosis and help after being prescribed Lithium at the age of
13. I saw doctor after
doctor and all they ever did was to put me on one antidepressant after
another. There are 
other things you can take to alleviate depression that won't hurt you
this way. Try 5-HTP, 
SAMe, B-Complex, B-12, inositol/niacinamide, or get a thyroid panel
test (you can get them
online at www.healthcheckusa.com) to determine if the depression is
from an underactive 
thyroid because that is now the most underdiagnosed and misdiagnosed
condition in this 
country and depression is just one of the many major symptoms. 

See at Pub Med: http://tinyurl.com/2bm8hc Thyroid
abnormalities in lithium-treated patients.
[snipped - emphasis is mine] 

..."Our findings suggested that along with its goitrogenic effects,
lithium inhibited 
thyroid function and led to clinical hypothyroidism."...

See at Pub Med: http://tinyurl.com/ysaf8a The effects
of lithium therapy on thyroid and 
thyrotropin-releasing hormone. [snipped] 

..."Lithium
is concentrated by the thyroid and inhibits thyroidal iodine uptake. It
also inhibits 
iodotyrosine coupling, alters thyroglobulin structure, and inhibits
thyroid hormone secretion. 
The latter effect is critical to the development of hypothyroidism
and goiter"

..."Goiter, due to increased thyrotropin (TSH) after inhibition of
thyroid hormone 
release, occurs at various reported incidence rates from 0%-60% and
is smooth and 
nontender. Subclinical and clinical hypothyroidism due to lithium is
usually associated 
with circulating anti-thyroid peroxidase (TPO) antibodies but may occur
in their absence."... 
_
Jodi

Bruce Anderson wrote on 3/1/2007, 10:13 PM:

 For the depression you might Google Lithium Orotate. It works well
 for me. I'm trying a non Rx herbal for type 2 diabetes.
 If the A1C test is good I'll post it to the list.





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Re: CSOT prozac diabetes??/Lithium danger

[Jodi W Menard]

Bruce Anderson wrote on 3/2/2007, 8:47 PM:

  Dear Jodi;
  I completely agree with you on Rx Lithium.  The dose you took was
  probably 200 - 400mg. of lithium 2 or 3 times daily and needed regular
  testing to try to adjust the dose to keep it from harming internal
  organs.

Hi Bruce. Wow, you think they gave me that much?! This was 30 years ago 
and they put me on it for only one week, with no testing afterwards that 
I can remember, just to see if I would notice any benefit.  They said if 
I did, that would mean I was manic depressive, but I didn't notice 
anything at the time.

  The Orotate form of lithium is effective at extremely small
  doses.   The 120mg tablet that I take *contains only 4.5mg of
  elemental lithium *and I take one a day.

I didn't know that the dose was that small, and I'm glad you only take one.

  You, also, might want to google Lithium Orotate.  Just as all forms of
  CS not bad, so also lithium. Best wishes;  Bruce

I appreciate your kind reply Bruce. After I posted about not taking 
Lithium, I did google the Orotate kind to see if it was different and I 
saw how it is all over the internet as being beneficial and safe, so 
hopefully that will pan out as really being the case because it seems so 
many people are taking it. Does anyone know how long this form of 
lithium has been around?  If it's been around a long time, and the 
negatives still haven't shown up, well then it has to be safe, right?

I should tell you anyway that I found 2 more studies on PubMed about the 
Orotate form. One states that it is inadvisable for doctors to recommend 
because it decreased kidney function (urine output) and enlarged the 
kidneys, but I don't understand the dosage they indicate:  It's 2 mmol 
lithium kg-1. (?) Do you know how to convert that to something more 
understandable?  If that's a large dose, the study can probably be 
ignored, since that's not what everyone is taking. The other study said 
something about how there wasn't a difference between the way the body 
processed Orotate as opposed to other forms of Lithium, but again since 
the Orotate is given in such small doses, seems as if it that can be 
ignored too because I think they used a large dose in the study.

Anyway, if this hasn't been around for a long time, I'd just try to be 
aware in case any symptoms of thyroid or kidney malfunction showed up 
and otherwise try not to worry.  Thanks Bruce.  Jodi



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Re: CSnew member introduction

[Jodi W Menard]

Lisa wrote on 2/28/2007, 10:17 AM:

  The link you had in your note is the silver maker that I use.  Am I
  making what you guys call EIS with this generator?  Assuming I use
  good distilled water, of course.
___

Hi Lisa -

I believe all of us home users with generators are making EIS
('electrically isolated silver' in distilled water).  In order to make
actual CS (colloidal silver), someone here once mentioned that we would
have to buy $15,000 in equipment and have our 'lab' FDA approved!

The difference between EIS and CS is that the CS has more silver 
'particles' (atoms) and less ions (silver ions have one electron missing 
which allows it to bind with any other atom in our bodies).  Whereas the 
EIS we make at home has more silver 'ions' and less particles. 
Supposedly, particles are not as easily assimilated by the body, whereas 
ions are assimilated and completely bioavailable. Ingesting silver ions 
as opposed to particles is comparable to getting your iron from a bowl 
of spinach, as opposed to actually swallowing minute particles of iron 
or taking an iron pill.  The nutrients we get from the vegetables we eat 
are in ionic form, for example.  If they're ionic that means your body 
can transport that nutrient wherever it is needed in the body, and then 
get rid of any excess more easily.  I don't think it is actually a raw, 
heavy metal when it's ionic, and this is one of the reasons why if you 
were to buy real CS, say like Mesosilver (a very high quality CS and the 
only 'CS' that I have ever recommended), you'd take much less than what 
you could or would if you took the EIS that we make at home with 
generators.

There is also a debate in the CS/EIS comunity where the CS side says 
that particles are better and more effective, and the EIS side says that 
ions are at least as effective and better, but I don't think the final 
results are in.  I personally think it doesn't matter which you take, as 
long as you take one or the other, but the EIS is much more affordable, 
and probably much easier on the body.

If I've got any of this wrong, I'm hoping one of the experts here will
chime in and correct me.  [grin]

Jodi



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Re: CSRe: topic of being hot

[Jodi W Menard]

Charles Marcus wrote on 2/27/2007, 7:21 AM:

  It is my understanding that the best way is, as you said, in the
  morning before you get out of bed, but not orally. Underneath the
  armpit is the recommended location for the thermometer.

Charles, it seems to me personally that it shouldn't matter, as long as 
you add a degree to the temp reading under the arm, but everything I've 
read on this (which is more than I can say) indicates only orally, and 
doctors advise orally too. Now that you mention it though, I wonder why?

Jodi



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Re: CStopic of being hot was/now thyroid-adrenals

[Jodi W Menard]

Nancy [dbl...@cfl.rr.com] wrote:

  I'm just curious, is hydrocortisone a natural medication?  If not, I
  wonder why a natural thyroid list owner would recommend it?

No, I think it's a synthetic drug that tries to mimic the natural.  But 
I'm sure she feels it helps. She's really a very nice person.

Jodi




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Re: CStopic of being hot was/now thyroid-adrenals

[Jodi W Menard]

I've been treating my thyroid (self treating) for almost 2-1/2 years 
now.  The group Sol mentions below was a life-saver for me and I still 
recommend it, but there is one thing I would say differently from them. 
You should be very, very careful about treating your adrenals. The 
standard medical treatment for it is hydrocortisone, also recommended by 
the owner of that group, but once you start taking it, it's very hard to 
stop and has dangerous side effects as well (search for 'hydrocortisone, 
side effects' to see).  I took it for only one day and woke up the next 
feeling so badly and so swollen I looked like a pumpkin, so I quit right 
then.  I'll never forget the laments of certain folks on that list who 
wished they had never started taking it.  Just because your adrenals are 
overworked and tired doesn't mean you should start taking hydrocortisone.

What most people don't realize is that 'treating your thyroid alone', 
ultimately repairs your adrenals. If you feel you need additional 
support, there are alternative adrenal treatments that are not addicting 
and will help without doing any damage.  Raw adrenal extracts or even a 
short term of pharmaceutical grade pregnenolone for instance. Both of 
which are over the counter or on the internet.  I used pregnenolone and 
it seemed to do the trick for me.

Jodi

Sol wrote [snipped]:

  My symptoms also fit the profile of adrenal problems, and by what I've
  read you need to treat both if you have both.

  I have embarked on a trial of both adrenal and thyroid,self-treating.
  The group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/
  has what seems to me to be some good information in its Files section.



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Re: CStopic of being hot

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Dee.  Having a low temp means you are hypothyroid, unless it is 30 
degrees in your house and you are cold!  When I was a child, the heat 
didn't bother me at all, but as an adult, I couldn't stand it because I 
hate to sweat. Maybe that's because I don't want my hair to frizz though 
(!). I don't know, but I hated heat even when my temps were low and 
before I treated my underactive thyroid.  Supposedly, if you have low 
thyroid function, one symptom you could get is that you'll get cold 
easily, but it isn't that way for everyone and it wasn't that way for me.

The most accurate way to determine your thyroid status is to take your 
temperature orally as soon as you wake up and before getting out of bed. 
  If it's below 98.2, and you weren't uncovered and freezing in a cold 
room before you awoke, then you have an underactive thyroid.  You can 
also take your temps morning, afternoon and evening for 3 days and then 
average them all out to get a more accurate reading.  Still though, if 
they average out to under 98.2, you're definitely hypothyroid.

Jodi

Dee wrote:

  Sorry Sol, but does having a low temp mean you are hypothyroid and
  does this mean you are always overheating or the opposite?  I am
  somewhat confused as you may gather.  I am always too hot, which is
  one of the symptoms of hypothyroid someone (Doris?) implied.





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Re: CSRe: Vitamin C and Salt Protocol warning - liver function

[Jodi W Menard]

Hi Duncan - May I have a copy of it
too? Thank you for offering.
My email addy is jwmen...@cox.net 

Duncan Crow wrote:

 I have a liver function article scanned in from a book by a Great 
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Re: CSEIS-Salt/C question

[Jodi W Menard]

Thank you Carlos. I admire him too. I am so sorry you have had such a 
struggle and I appreciate your sharing your story and explaining this 
condition. You certainly have done your homework and I believe you will 
continue to recover with EIS. Please keep us posted on your progress.

Jodi

Carlos wrote:
  It is indeed a surprise to find a close relative to the very famous
  Dr. Paul Ehrlich, whom I admire very much!! As you probably have
  already found out, Ehrlichiosis is a very serious disease that if not
  properly diagnosed and treated in due time, can be deadly.  [snipped]



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Re: CSEIS-Salt/C question.

[Jodi W Menard]

Carlos
wrote:

  In my trying to get a cure for
Ehrlichiosis I have been using home made EIS 
with a noticeable improvement in my health. 

Hi Carlos - 

I was so shocked to see 'Ehrlichiosis' in your post. My great great
great Uncle (don't know how many greats to insert here) was Paul
Ehrlich, the German bacteriologist who invented the cure for Syphillis,
and apparently whom this disease is named after. Thing is, before I
read your post and looked it up, I didn't even know there was a
condition named after him. Big surprise and I can't wait to tell my
Mom. Anyway, while I was looking it up, I found the page below which
states that antibiotics have cured this condition in the past, so the
CS really should do it, and I guess that's why it has helped you. Have
you considered upping your dose? Sometimes we need alot. Sure can't
hurt if you make it properly. Anyway, thanks for the thrill there.
[grin] Not that I'm happy that you are suffering mind you! I sure do
hope you recover quickly and completely. 

See http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/bulletin_of_the_history_of_medicine/v072/72.4silverstein.html

for full article

{snipped}

"After
receiving antibiotic treatment for ehrlichiosis, they recovered."

Jodi 






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CSIV Question

[Jodi W Menard]

Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:

  At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I
  took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last
  days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his
  temperament is not at all aggressive.

I teared up reading that Pat. I'm glad he found someone like you, after 
all he's been through.  Jodi



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RE: CSMSM heart/was now Cayenne

[Jodi W Menard]

ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote:

  I am presently up to a heaping half teaspoon of cayenne at least
  once daily and I try to do 2-3 times daily.

It's not painful?   Jodi



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CStopic of being hot

[Jodi W Menard]

Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I dread summer like others dread winter.

Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

  Sooo nice to know that there's someone like me around!

Friend, you are not alone. I can't STAND the heat. When I'm hot, I can 
think of nothing else except how to get cool and I oftentimes have to 
stick my head in the freezer. What I'm doing down south here in this 
summertime sauna I have no idea.  If there was a cool weather God I'd be 
praying to him.  Jodi



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Re: CSAgryia was/now Chlorella

[Jodi W Menard]

Jonathan - Since this is off-topic, I sent my reply directly to
you.  Jodi



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Re: CSAgryia was/now Chlorella

[Jodi W Menard]

Subject:
Date: 2/6/2007, 1:09 AM
From:
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

  I just read today that chlorella is also very good at binding to
  metals and other toxins in vivo.   This food, like cilantro, could be
  combined with Jason's therapy at no risk, and might help.

My son had autism.  There's alot of evidence that supports autism being 
caused by themerosol (about 70% mercury), which is a preservative used 
in many vaccines. I heard about chlorella from mercola.com, how it binds 
metals and removes them from the body, and started giving him chlorella 
caps.  Now he no longer has any of the autistic symptoms he had before. 
   He no longer zones out, he looks people in the eyes, likes to be 
touched, understands and responds, and he's quit those strange 
repetitive movements he used to do.  Chlorella works.

Jodi



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RE: CSAgryia was/now Chlorella

[Jodi W Menard]

Dan wrote:

  How much do you give him, and on what schedule?  What is his
  weight?...

I bought the chlorella caps at Mercola.com, but I ran out a couple of 
days ago and the bottle was thrown away (I give him seaweed caps when I 
run out). So I'm not sure how many mg. were in each cap, but they looked 
pretty large to me.  I'd open 2 of them and empty them into his food. 
I'd gave him 2 caps all at the same time sometimes, and other times 1 
cap in the morning and then 1 cap a couple of hours later.  Sometimes a 
3rd cap at dinner, but not all of the time. I don't think I was giving 
him as much as Mercola recommends. I didn't want him to go through any 
discomfort. Over a longer period of time, the smaller dose still seemed 
to do the trick.  I was also blending and mixing up some raw and organic 
foods, which probably helped.  No chemicals, preservatives or 
trans-fats.  I can control what he ingests because he has a feeding 
button surgically implanted in his tummy.  Can't take anything by mouth, 
so taste isn't an issue.  He weighed maybe 40 lbs. when I started giving 
him the chlorella.  He's 10 years old and 55 lbs. now. He has some other 
  physical issues along with developmental delay.

Jodi



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Re: CSCS and T4 Cells

[Jodi W Menard]

Dim alternativ...@hotmail.com wrote:

  ...I am not that much worring about the
  virus right now, but mostly about how to raise my T4 cells that there
  were just 4 in count two weeks ago. I do know that the treatment with
  ozon will give a 'boost' to my T4, but I feel that I should do some
  additional things in order to raise them more.

Dim, a doctor told me that I had only 8 T-Cells about 7 years ago. When 
I asked her if there was anything I could do or take to raise it she 
said yes, and then put me on MGN-3 (from mushrooms, I think 750 mg. a 
day), Alpha Lipoic Acid (600 mg. per day), Vitamin C and Selenium.

Jodi



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