CS>test email -- not receiving any SilverList emails

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Re: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

[Douglas Haack]

 Diane M,
thanks, I'm in Australia, East Coast -- my settings are OK! Just not getting 
any mail from the Silver List. I go back to 1998 in the archives .
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 02:54:19 pm AEDT, Diane Mackey 
 wrote:  
 
 Doug, your sent date is in the future.  I have 11/23 at 10:52 PM, while your 
email says 11/24 at 12:15 PM.  Not sure if your pc is not dated correctly or 
the eskimo server.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:37 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

You should have one now Doug .
From: Douglas Haack 
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2020 12:15 PM
To: Silver-List 
Subject: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList Test 
-- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

  

Re: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

[Ode Coyote]

Half of the ones I get are in the spam folder
ode

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:54 PM Diane Mackey 
wrote:

> Doug, your sent date is in the future.  I have 11/23 at 10:52 PM, while
> your email says 11/24 at 12:15 PM.  Not sure if your pc is not dated
> correctly or the eskimo server.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:37 PM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
>> You should have one now Doug .
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Douglas Haack 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 November 2020 12:15 PM
>> *To:* Silver-List 
>> *Subject:* CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list
>> SilverList
>>
>> Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList
>>
>

CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

[Douglas Haack]

Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

Re: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

[Diane Mackey]

Doug, your sent date is in the future.  I have 11/23 at 10:52 PM, while
your email says 11/24 at 12:15 PM.  Not sure if your pc is not dated
correctly or the eskimo server.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:37 PM Neville Munn 
wrote:

> You should have one now Doug .
>
> --
> *From:* Douglas Haack 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 November 2020 12:15 PM
> *To:* Silver-List 
> *Subject:* CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list
> SilverList
>
> Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList
>

Re: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

[Neville Munn]

You should have one now Doug .


From: Douglas Haack 
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2020 12:15 PM
To: Silver-List 
Subject: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

CS>TEST

[Deborah Gerard]

Re: CS>test

[Da Darrin]

I use two separate email addresses, both on the silver list.
 When I post to the list and it doesn't show up I open my other email and
it is there magicaly.
Dave

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Deborah Gerard 
wrote:

> did you check your spam folder?
>
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2017 4:36 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:
>
>
> I have twice sent a reply but it seems lost.
> No copy sent back to me and
> No copy in the archives
>
> Tony M
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Re: CS>test

[Deborah Gerard]

did you check your spam folder? 

On Friday, February 24, 2017 4:36 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:
 

 I have twice sent a reply but it seems lost.
No copy sent back to me and 
No copy in the archives 

Tony M


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[Tony Moody]

I have twice sent a reply but it seems lost.
No copy sent back to me and 
No copy in the archives 

Tony M


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Re: CS>test

[Max]

oh thanks Jerry.  I didnt see it.   Now I wonder if the story about how 
they unraveled the blue man made it through also. Not Phil's link


On 3/26/2016 12:39 PM, Jerry Durand wrote:

This made it, even if you didn't see it.

On 03/26/2016 12:28 PM, Max wrote:

this is a test...my comments dont seem to be posting



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Re: CS>test

[Jerry Durand]

This made it, even if you didn't see it.

On 03/26/2016 12:28 PM, Max wrote:
> this is a test...my comments dont seem to be posting
>

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CS>test

[Max]

this is a test...my comments dont seem to be posting


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CS>Test.

[Debra & David]

Just testing. (More often than not, my postings don't appear.)

Mike, did you see the Kangaroos and Colloidal Silver post? Any reason it 
was rejected?


David



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CSRe: CS test

[Marshalee Hallett]

just testing


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CS[Fwd: cs test on milk]

[Acmeair]

on 7 january, i purchased a 1/2 gal of milk, the standard homogenized 
store stuff.  added 15 ml of cs. this jug had a use by 18 jan.  am in 
a single household, and used for coffee only.  the milk was still sweet 
on  26 jan and  was still 1/3 full so i  added another 10 ml of  cs.  
just used the last of the milk this a.m., 29 jan.,  and it was still sweet.


i make cs 1 gallon at a time.  distilled water that starts out at  
around 0.22 ma and i brew it till ma's go to around 1.50 to 1.75 ma and 
shows a fair tindle effect, and is stirred with an aquairium bubbler .  
at 0.22 ma, voltage is around 25.1 vdc. at 1.5 ma, voltage levels out at 
around 28.6 vdc.  water is american fare from kmart,  (so. calif.)


just bought another jug with a 2-11-05 date on it.  we'll see

jim



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Re: CSH202/CS test--strange

[Ode Coyote]

  The peroxide converts ions into particles and particles don't conduct.
 Conductivity goes down.
The TE greatly increases when peroxide is used in clear strong CS that had
little TE.

 TE might decrease in yellow CS as the existing larger particles break up
and overall conductivity stay the same after a few fluctuations. [Same PPM
in particles...different particle size..different light characteristics]

 None of this is very clear and is full of exceptions that haven't been
nailed down.  CS isn't just CS..it's all a little different even from batch
to batch, day to day.
 Environment has an effect on the process and the CS itself..sometimes
dramatic.

Ode

At 07:54 PM 10/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
A simple test to try to see what H202 does when added to CS-
1cc 3% H202 was added 6 oz .8 uS distilled water = the uS went up 1.2  
to 2.0 uS

1cc 3% H202 added to 6 oz clear CS of 7.3 uS = the uS went up 1.2  to 8.5 uS

1cc 3% H202 added to 6 oz yellow CS of 11.2 uS  = the uS immediately 
DROPPED to 8.3 uS  (the CS did clear up)
   after a day and a half the uS had risen to 11.0 uS

The third result is weird---always before the uS has only gone up when I 
have added H202 to CS. I've never done this test with measured amounts 
before, but I have added H202 to CS after first measuring the uS of the 
CS, and it has gone up. I thought to a higher reading than the uS 
reading of the peroxide itself. I now question this. But why would it 
drop when the peroxide has conductance of its own to add?

What happened?
sol


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Re: CSH202/CS test--strange

[sol]

I did not check TE. I find it too subjective for me, and I'm just not 
good at any but very broad differences in TE. 

I believed that H202 converted particles into ions, raising the 
conductivity. I just read somewhere that Frank Key has said this is the 
way it works, thus he does not recommend adding peroxide to his 
Mesosilver, as it will break the particles into ions. Can't recall where 
I read it.


All I know is I am now more puzzled than ever. Just once I'd like to get 
a repeatable result.

sol

Ode Coyote wrote:


 The peroxide converts ions into particles and particles don't conduct.
Conductivity goes down.
The TE greatly increases when peroxide is used in clear strong CS that had
little TE.

TE might decrease in yellow CS as the existing larger particles break up
and overall conductivity stay the same after a few fluctuations. [Same PPM
in particles...different particle size..different light characteristics]

None of this is very clear and is full of exceptions that haven't been
nailed down.  CS isn't just CS..it's all a little different even from batch
to batch, day to day.
Environment has an effect on the process and the CS itself..sometimes
dramatic.

Ode

 

 




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CSH202/CS test--strange

[sol]

A simple test to try to see what H202 does when added to CS-
1cc 3% H202 was added 6 oz .8 uS distilled water = the uS went up 1.2  
to 2.0 uS


1cc 3% H202 added to 6 oz clear CS of 7.3 uS = the uS went up 1.2  to 8.5 uS

1cc 3% H202 added to 6 oz yellow CS of 11.2 uS  = the uS immediately 
DROPPED to 8.3 uS  (the CS did clear up)

  after a day and a half the uS had risen to 11.0 uS

The third result is weird---always before the uS has only gone up when I 
have added H202 to CS. I've never done this test with measured amounts 
before, but I have added H202 to CS after first measuring the uS of the 
CS, and it has gone up. I thought to a higher reading than the uS 
reading of the peroxide itself. I now question this. But why would it 
drop when the peroxide has conductance of its own to add?


What happened?
sol


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RE: CSMy CS test results

[Ivan Anderson]

Well, it depends upon how much elemental silver is in your CS. just
start with a few mL and let it sit over night. End result should be
crystal clear, and not too bitter (too much H2O2).
Whether the CS is improved by this would be debated by some
investigators.

Ivan

 -Original Message-
 From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net]
 Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 6:42 p.m.
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSMy CS test results


 Anyone want to answer this ?
 How much H202 and at what % to improve CS ?The
 strongest I have ever bought
 is 35 % food grade H202 , its kind of expensive.  But how
 much do you need to
 put in CS ? Say a quart ?  We can figure up or down from
 that.  Do you think 3
 %  H202  in the brown bottle store bought would hurt anything...?
 Tel
 Dewey, AZ

 MARIANO DELISE wrote:

  For allof us non technical types, I believe you are
 saying what my body has
  been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is
 this correct?
  Nancy
  - Original Message -
  From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM
  Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results
 
   Thanks Rob, good work.
  
   The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and
 any Tyndal
   effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further
 investigation, as
   discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.
  
   Ivan.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com]
   Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:59 a.m.
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: CSMy CS test results
  
  
   Hello,
  
  From the time I first started making my own CS I have
   occassionally had it tested at our local college.  {atomic level
   tests}  My latest tests that I had them do was to see if indeed
   whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 2 ounces
 did actually
   decrease the partical size.  I had three tests done:
   1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
   2. A test on a second gallon  of my CS after adding 64
 drops of H202
   [I ordered this test to be done within 30 minutes of
 adding the H202]
   3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64
 drops of H202
   after waiting for at least 24 hours.
  
  
   I have not received yet the paper showing partical
 sizes..but I
   did talk to them on the phone. First of all my CS
 unaltered was 75%
   ionic and measured 18 ppm.
   Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber
 2 was 88%
   ionic and 3 was 100%.  This actually proves what I had
 suspected: that
   the reaction actually takes much longer to complete
 than what I had
   originally been told.  I suspected this for 2
   reasons...first..the older my CS got after
 adding H202 it had
   less of a tyndall effectand second.the
 older it gets
   after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.
   I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old
 and it hasn't
   precipitated or shown any other signs of going
 badanybody
   who doubts the advantage of adding H202 should have
 their own tests
   done.  I'll post all of the numbers when I get them in
 the mail.  Robb
  
  
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RE: CSMy CS test results

[Ivan Anderson]

Nancy,

No that is not what I am saying at all. I am not giving an opinion as
to whether this results in a better CS or not, just describing what
happens when one does add H2O2 to CS.

All the same, I am glad that you find the addition beneficial.

Ivan.

 -Original Message-
 From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net]
 Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 4:38 p.m.
 To: *Silver-List*
 Subject: Re: CSMy CS test results


 For allof us non technical types, I believe you are saying
 what my body has
 been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is
 this correct?
 Nancy
 - Original Message -
 From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM
 Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results


  Thanks Rob, good work.
 
  The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and any Tyndal
  effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further
 investigation, as
  discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.
 
  Ivan.


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Re: CSMy CS test results

[sol]

  My CS that turned very cloudy with the addition of the 1 drop 3% H202 per
2 oz CS,  has not changed at all in approx 36 hours now. It is still very
milky/cloudy, it is opaque.
paula
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- Original Message -
From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net


 I have been using the 3% brown bottle store bought H2o2 for about 8
months,
 now.  It works just fine.  I put a drop of H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS.
 Sometimes it turns darker immediately, and sometimes it does notLet it
 stand about 15 minutes, then I add Gatorade.  The H2o2 makes it a little
 bitter.  It is my understanding that the H202 interacts with the silver,
 puliverizes the aleady small pieces, and makes them tiny enough to get
into
 the blood stream.  After about 15 minutes, often the amber or cloudy CS
will
 be crystal clear.  It has made a world of difference to me.
 Nancy





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Re: CSMy CS test results

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have been using the 3% brown bottle store bought H2o2 for about 8 months,
now.  It works just fine.  I put a drop of H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS.
Sometimes it turns darker immediately, and sometimes it does notLet it
stand about 15 minutes, then I add Gatorade.  The H2o2 makes it a little
bitter.  It is my understanding that the H202 interacts with the silver,
puliverizes the aleady small pieces, and makes them tiny enough to get into
the blood stream.  After about 15 minutes, often the amber or cloudy CS will
be crystal clear.  It has made a world of difference to me.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: CSMy CS test results


 Anyone want to answer this ?
 How much H202 and at what % to improve CS ?The strongest I have ever
bought
 is 35 % food grade H202 , its kind of expensive.  But how much do you need
to
 put in CS ? Say a quart ?  We can figure up or down from that.  Do you
think 3
 %  H202  in the brown bottle store bought would hurt anything...?
 Tel
 Dewey, AZ

 MARIANO DELISE wrote:

  For allof us non technical types, I believe you are saying what my body
has
  been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is this correct?
  Nancy
  - Original Message -
  From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM
  Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results
 
   Thanks Rob, good work.
  
   The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and any Tyndal
   effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further investigation, as
   discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.
  
   Ivan.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com]
   Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:59 a.m.
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: CSMy CS test results
  
  
   Hello,
  
  From the time I first started making my own CS I have
   occassionally had it tested at our local college.  {atomic level
   tests}  My latest tests that I had them do was to see if indeed
   whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 2 ounces did actually
   decrease the partical size.  I had three tests done:
   1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
   2. A test on a second gallon  of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
   [I ordered this test to be done within 30 minutes of adding the H202]
   3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
   after waiting for at least 24 hours.
  
  
   I have not received yet the paper showing partical sizes..but I
   did talk to them on the phone. First of all my CS unaltered was 75%
   ionic and measured 18 ppm.
   Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber 2 was 88%
   ionic and 3 was 100%.  This actually proves what I had suspected: that
   the reaction actually takes much longer to complete than what I had
   originally been told.  I suspected this for 2
   reasons...first..the older my CS got after adding H202 it had
   less of a tyndall effectand second.the older it gets
   after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.
   I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old and it hasn't
   precipitated or shown any other signs of going badanybody
   who doubts the advantage of adding H202 should have their own tests
   done.  I'll post all of the numbers when I get them in the mail.  Robb
  
  
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Re: CSMy CS test results

[MARIANO DELISE]

For allof us non technical types, I believe you are saying what my body has
been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is this correct?
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results


 Thanks Rob, good work.

 The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and any Tyndal
 effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further investigation, as
 discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.

 Ivan.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:59 a.m.
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSMy CS test results


 Hello,

From the time I first started making my own CS I have
 occassionally had it tested at our local college.  {atomic level
 tests}  My latest tests that I had them do was to see if indeed
 whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 2 ounces did actually
 decrease the partical size.  I had three tests done:
 1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
 2. A test on a second gallon  of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
 [I ordered this test to be done within 30 minutes of adding the H202]
 3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
 after waiting for at least 24 hours.


 I have not received yet the paper showing partical sizes..but I
 did talk to them on the phone. First of all my CS unaltered was 75%
 ionic and measured 18 ppm.
 Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber 2 was 88%
 ionic and 3 was 100%.  This actually proves what I had suspected: that
 the reaction actually takes much longer to complete than what I had
 originally been told.  I suspected this for 2
 reasons...first..the older my CS got after adding H202 it had
 less of a tyndall effectand second.the older it gets
 after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.
 I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old and it hasn't
 precipitated or shown any other signs of going badanybody
 who doubts the advantage of adding H202 should have their own tests
 done.  I'll post all of the numbers when I get them in the mail.  Robb


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Re: CSMy CS test results

[Tel Tofflemire]

Anyone want to answer this ?
How much H202 and at what % to improve CS ?The strongest I have ever bought
is 35 % food grade H202 , its kind of expensive.  But how much do you need to
put in CS ? Say a quart ?  We can figure up or down from that.  Do you think 3
%  H202  in the brown bottle store bought would hurt anything...?
Tel
Dewey, AZ

MARIANO DELISE wrote:

 For allof us non technical types, I believe you are saying what my body has
 been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is this correct?
 Nancy
 - Original Message -
 From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM
 Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results

  Thanks Rob, good work.
 
  The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and any Tyndal
  effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further investigation, as
  discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.
 
  Ivan.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:59 a.m.
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSMy CS test results
 
 
  Hello,
 
 From the time I first started making my own CS I have
  occassionally had it tested at our local college.  {atomic level
  tests}  My latest tests that I had them do was to see if indeed
  whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 2 ounces did actually
  decrease the partical size.  I had three tests done:
  1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
  2. A test on a second gallon  of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
  [I ordered this test to be done within 30 minutes of adding the H202]
  3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
  after waiting for at least 24 hours.
 
 
  I have not received yet the paper showing partical sizes..but I
  did talk to them on the phone. First of all my CS unaltered was 75%
  ionic and measured 18 ppm.
  Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber 2 was 88%
  ionic and 3 was 100%.  This actually proves what I had suspected: that
  the reaction actually takes much longer to complete than what I had
  originally been told.  I suspected this for 2
  reasons...first..the older my CS got after adding H202 it had
  less of a tyndall effectand second.the older it gets
  after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.
  I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old and it hasn't
  precipitated or shown any other signs of going badanybody
  who doubts the advantage of adding H202 should have their own tests
  done.  I'll post all of the numbers when I get them in the mail.  Robb
 
 
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CSMy CS test results

[Robb Allen]

Hello, 

   From the time I first started making my own CS I have occassionally had 
it tested at our local college.  {atomic level tests}  My latest tests that I 
had them do was to see if indeed whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 
2 ounces did actually decrease the partical size.  I had three tests done:
1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
2. A test on a second gallon  of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202 [I ordered 
this test to be done within 30 minutes of adding the H202]
3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202 after 
waiting for at least 24 hours. 


I have not received yet the paper showing partical sizes..but I did talk to 
them on the phone. First of all my CS unaltered was 75% ionic and measured 18 
ppm.
Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber 2 was 88% ionic and 3 
was 100%.  This actually proves what I had suspected: that the reaction 
actually takes much longer to complete than what I had originally been told.  I 
suspected this for 2 reasons...first..the older my CS got after adding 
H202 it had less of a tyndall effectand second.the older it 
gets after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.  
I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old and it hasn't 
precipitated or shown any other signs of going badanybody who doubts 
the advantage of adding H202 should have their own tests done.  I'll post all 
of the numbers when I get them in the mail.  Robb

RE: CSMy CS test results

[Ivan Anderson]

Thanks Rob, good work.

The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and any Tyndal
effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further investigation, as
discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.

Ivan.

-Original Message-
From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:59 a.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMy CS test results


Hello,

   From the time I first started making my own CS I have
occassionally had it tested at our local college.  {atomic level
tests}  My latest tests that I had them do was to see if indeed
whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 2 ounces did actually
decrease the partical size.  I had three tests done:
1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
2. A test on a second gallon  of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
[I ordered this test to be done within 30 minutes of adding the H202]
3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64 drops of H202
after waiting for at least 24 hours.


I have not received yet the paper showing partical sizes..but I
did talk to them on the phone. First of all my CS unaltered was 75%
ionic and measured 18 ppm.
Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber 2 was 88%
ionic and 3 was 100%.  This actually proves what I had suspected: that
the reaction actually takes much longer to complete than what I had
originally been told.  I suspected this for 2
reasons...first..the older my CS got after adding H202 it had
less of a tyndall effectand second.the older it gets
after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.
I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old and it hasn't
precipitated or shown any other signs of going badanybody
who doubts the advantage of adding H202 should have their own tests
done.  I'll post all of the numbers when I get them in the mail.  Robb


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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/20/2001 10:41:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
gw...@juno.com writes:


 Subj:Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
 Date:7/20/2001 10:41:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams)
 Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 Okay what is the next step?  Gladys
 


Gladys: Tell Ole Bob (bober...@swbell.net) that you want to participate in 
the Gatorade/CS Test, and give him your address so you can receive 2 liters 
of the CS Test Solution. Thanks. Roger

CSGatorade/CS Test Update

[ROGALTMAN]

List: I would like to thank Nancy Delise, George Allen, George Martin, and 
one donor who prefers to remain anonymous for providing funds to sponsor 
participants for our Gatorade/CS test now underway. We have a number of 
openings for additional participants to receive, free of charge, a two liter 
shipment of Ole Bob's Test Solution. All those interested to add to our 
understanding of the germicidal activity of ionic and particulate CS, as well 
as to investigate ways to improve CS performance, please contact me or Ole 
Bob. Roger

Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[Gladys Williams]

Okay what is the next step?  Gladys


On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:18:24 EDT rogalt...@aol.com writes:
 In a message dated 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST, gw...@juno.com writes:
 
  Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
  Date:  7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST
  From:  gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams)
  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
  To:silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is 
 for??? 
  Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how 
 to make
  CS as yet.  Gladys
   
 
 Gladys: Thanks for volunteering. I just completed an abstract which 
 I've 
 included below. In a separate email, I'll send you additional 
 material that 
 you'll be needing. Please read it thoroughly before make your final 
 decision 
 to become part of the test group. Thanks again. Roger
 
 Dr. Roger Altman, President of Reclamation Research, Natural Bridge, 
 NY 
 [Reclamation Research, RR1 Box 102, Natural Bridge, NY 13665, Tel. 
 315-644-4274] has been working with Mr. Robert Berger, of System 
 Tech 
 Engineering, Kansas City, MO [System Tech Engineering, 12303 E.89th 
 St., 
 Kansas city, MO 64138-5150, Tel. 816-313-7769, Fax 816-313-8760] to 
 determine 
 the relative in vivos germicidal activity of ionic silver. A second 
 goal of 
 this investigation is to determine if balanced fluid electrolytes 
 can enhance 
 the germicidal activity of ionic silver. The proposed procedure 
 includes the 
 following steps:
 
 1) Select test subjects who have used colloidal silver to treat 
 various 
 ailments.
 
 2) Produce colloidal silver test solutions that are 100% ionic as 
 well as 
 similar solutions that contain no silver at all.
 
 3) Issue these test solutions to participants by means of a double 
 blind 
 distribution channel so that half receive the 100% ionic silver and 
 the other 
 half receive the placebo.
 
 4) Provide instructions to dilute the test solution to 5 PPM silver, 
 a 
 concentration  similar to that used by most who take colloidal 
 silver.
 
 5) Instruct participants to compare the performance of the as is 
 test 
 solution to the colloidal silver they have been using.
 
 6) Instruct participants to mix 2 parts of a balanced fluid 
 electrolyte with 
 one part of the test solution to determine if there is an 
 improvement in the 
 performance of the test solution relative to the test solution used 
 as is.
 
 7) Request participants to keep separate written accounts of their 
 observations for each infirmity treated, and each individual who 
 takes part 
 in this study.
 
 8) After approximately 3-6 months of observations for a particular 
 infirmity 
 have been accumulated, participants are instructed to complete a 
 brief survey 
 which is designed to evaluate the performance of the test solution, 
 relative 
 to the colloidal silver they have been using, and the performance of 
 the 
 balanced fluid electrolyte plus test solution combination, relative 
 to the 
 test solution used as is.
 
 9) A Chi Square analysis will then be used to determine if there is 
 any sign 
 of relative incremental performance after eliminating statistically 
 the 
 placebo effect.
 
 A final report will be issued at the completion of this study.
 
 
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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[Gladys Williams]

New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? 
Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make
CS as yet.  Gladys

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:24:56 EDT rogalt...@aol.com writes:
 In a message dated 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST, cking...@nycap.rr.com 
 writes:
 
  Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
  Date:  7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST
  From:  cking...@nycap.rr.com
  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
  To:silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Who knows, if 
  enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may 
 become less 
  grouchy, perhaps even charming.
  
  Doubtful
  That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!!
  Almost a century's head start!!!
 Chuck
   
 
 Chuck: I'm willing to bet that if YOU joined in, Ole Bob will send 
 you a 
 personal letter of appreciation (even if I have to forge one). 
 Roger
 
 
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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST, gw...@juno.com writes:

 Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
 Date:  7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST
 From:  gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? 
 Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make
 CS as yet.  Gladys
  

Gladys: Thanks for volunteering. I just completed an abstract which I've 
included below. In a separate email, I'll send you additional material that 
you'll be needing. Please read it thoroughly before make your final decision 
to become part of the test group. Thanks again. Roger

Dr. Roger Altman, President of Reclamation Research, Natural Bridge, NY 
[Reclamation Research, RR1 Box 102, Natural Bridge, NY 13665, Tel. 
315-644-4274] has been working with Mr. Robert Berger, of System Tech 
Engineering, Kansas City, MO [System Tech Engineering, 12303 E.89th St., 
Kansas city, MO 64138-5150, Tel. 816-313-7769, Fax 816-313-8760] to determine 
the relative in vivos germicidal activity of ionic silver. A second goal of 
this investigation is to determine if balanced fluid electrolytes can enhance 
the germicidal activity of ionic silver. The proposed procedure includes the 
following steps:

1) Select test subjects who have used colloidal silver to treat various 
ailments.

2) Produce colloidal silver test solutions that are 100% ionic as well as 
similar solutions that contain no silver at all.

3) Issue these test solutions to participants by means of a double blind 
distribution channel so that half receive the 100% ionic silver and the other 
half receive the placebo.

4) Provide instructions to dilute the test solution to 5 PPM silver, a 
concentration  similar to that used by most who take colloidal silver.

5) Instruct participants to compare the performance of the as is test 
solution to the colloidal silver they have been using.

6) Instruct participants to mix 2 parts of a balanced fluid electrolyte with 
one part of the test solution to determine if there is an improvement in the 
performance of the test solution relative to the test solution used as is.

7) Request participants to keep separate written accounts of their 
observations for each infirmity treated, and each individual who takes part 
in this study.

8) After approximately 3-6 months of observations for a particular infirmity 
have been accumulated, participants are instructed to complete a brief survey 
which is designed to evaluate the performance of the test solution, relative 
to the colloidal silver they have been using, and the performance of the 
balanced fluid electrolyte plus test solution combination, relative to the 
test solution used as is.

9) A Chi Square analysis will then be used to determine if there is any sign 
of relative incremental performance after eliminating statistically the 
placebo effect.

A final report will be issued at the completion of this study.


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CSGatorade/CS Test

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST, nancym...@prodigy.net writes:

 Subj: CSGatorade
 Date:  7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST
 From:  nancym...@prodigy.net (MARIANO  DELISE)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Hi listers,
 I am wondering about the Gatorade  test:  Will you mix the Gatorade 
directly with the CS?
 Do you think it would hurt to mix the two together and store it that way 
over night?
 Has anyone used the powder Gatorade?  Could that be mixed directly into 
the CS?
 Thanks,
 Nancy
  

Nancy: If you're using powered Gatorade, mix it first to the proper 
consistency with tap or spring water since the regular Gatorade is most 
probably made that way. After that, add 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS test 
solution just before drinking and/or using topically.

List: There's a possibility that additional sponsor funds will be made 
available to promote our Gatorade/CS test. Anyone interested in participating 
in these tests may be able to receive the CS test solution completely free. 
Here's a chance for many of you who have received invaluable information over 
the years, and advice about your own particular CS (and other) problems to 
give something back to the List. By participating in our study we all have a 
chance to gain important insight into how CS works as well as begin to learn 
how to enhance its effectiveness. So ask yourself if your reason for not 
participating is as good as the many reasons to lend a helping hand. Anyone 
who would like to be included should contact me or Ole Bob. Who knows, if 
enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less 
grouchy, perhaps even charming. Roger 


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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[Tel Tofflemire]

If you need  Body or two Me and my wife would join in..
telt...@home.com

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST, nancym...@prodigy.net writes:

  Subj: CSGatorade
  Date:  7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST
  From:  nancym...@prodigy.net (MARIANO  DELISE)
  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
  To:silver-list@eskimo.com

  Hi listers,
  I am wondering about the Gatorade  test:  Will you mix the Gatorade
 directly with the CS?
  Do you think it would hurt to mix the two together and store it that way
 over night?
  Has anyone used the powder Gatorade?  Could that be mixed directly into
 the CS?
  Thanks,
  Nancy
   

 Nancy: If you're using powered Gatorade, mix it first to the proper
 consistency with tap or spring water since the regular Gatorade is most
 probably made that way. After that, add 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS test
 solution just before drinking and/or using topically.

 List: There's a possibility that additional sponsor funds will be made
 available to promote our Gatorade/CS test. Anyone interested in participating
 in these tests may be able to receive the CS test solution completely free.
 Here's a chance for many of you who have received invaluable information over
 the years, and advice about your own particular CS (and other) problems to
 give something back to the List. By participating in our study we all have a
 chance to gain important insight into how CS works as well as begin to learn
 how to enhance its effectiveness. So ask yourself if your reason for not
 participating is as good as the many reasons to lend a helping hand. Anyone
 who would like to be included should contact me or Ole Bob. Who knows, if
 enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less
 grouchy, perhaps even charming. Roger

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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[Tel Tofflemire]

If  you need  another Body or two,  Me and my wife would join in..
telt...@home.com

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST, nancym...@prodigy.net writes:

  Subj: CSGatorade
  Date:  7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST
  From:  nancym...@prodigy.net (MARIANO  DELISE)
  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
  To:silver-list@eskimo.com

  Hi listers,
  I am wondering about the Gatorade  test:  Will you mix the Gatorade
 directly with the CS?
  Do you think it would hurt to mix the two together and store it that way
 over night?
  Has anyone used the powder Gatorade?  Could that be mixed directly into
 the CS?
  Thanks,
  Nancy
   

 Nancy: If you're using powered Gatorade, mix it first to the proper
 consistency with tap or spring water since the regular Gatorade is most
 probably made that way. After that, add 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS test
 solution just before drinking and/or using topically.

 List: There's a possibility that additional sponsor funds will be made
 available to promote our Gatorade/CS test. Anyone interested in participating
 in these tests may be able to receive the CS test solution completely free.
 Here's a chance for many of you who have received invaluable information over
 the years, and advice about your own particular CS (and other) problems to
 give something back to the List. By participating in our study we all have a
 chance to gain important insight into how CS works as well as begin to learn
 how to enhance its effectiveness. So ask yourself if your reason for not
 participating is as good as the many reasons to lend a helping hand. Anyone
 who would like to be included should contact me or Ole Bob. Who knows, if
 enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less
 grouchy, perhaps even charming. Roger

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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[CKing001]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

Who knows, if 
enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less 
grouchy, perhaps even charming.

Doubtful
That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!!
Almost a century's head start!!!
Chuck

If you ain't makin' waves, you ain't kickin' hard enough.


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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST, cking...@nycap.rr.com writes:

 Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
 Date:  7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST
 From:  cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Who knows, if 
 enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less 
 grouchy, perhaps even charming.
 
 Doubtful
 That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!!
 Almost a century's head start!!!
Chuck
  

Chuck: I'm willing to bet that if YOU joined in, Ole Bob will send you a 
personal letter of appreciation (even if I have to forge one). Roger


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Re: CSGatorade/CS Test

[Tel Tofflemire]

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 7/16/01 12:44:21 PM EST, telt...@home.com writes:

  Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
  Date:  7/16/01 12:44:21 PM EST
  From:  telt...@home.com (Tel Tofflemire)
  Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
  To:silver-list@eskimo.com


  If you need  Body or two Me and my wife would join in..
  telt...@home.com
   

 Tel: I appreciate your offer to help with our test. Your timing is perfect
 because I just received word that two more sponsors will underwrite the
 production and shipment of quite a number of CS Test solutions to those who
 want to participate. So anyone willing to receive and test 2 liters of CS
 test solution please contact me or Ole Bob. Thanks. Roger

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OK
roggalt...@aol.com
I will send my address off list.
telt...@home.com

Re: CSGatorade- CS test.

[Beverle Sweitzer]

Hi Eleanor:
  Which cat list is that?
You can reply privately to me at 
aber...@erols.com
Beverle


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Re: CSGatorade- CS test.

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/3/01 6:54:48 PM EST, kukuri...@hotmail.com writes:

 Subj: Re: CSGatorade- CS test.
 Date:  7/3/01 6:54:48 PM EST
 From:  kukuri...@hotmail.com (kukurippa _)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 
 Hi I'm new to the list.  My name is Eleanor and I live in Quebec.  I'm only 
 now just learning about CS, in fact I found this list through another list 
 that is for cats (I feed mine raw).
 
 I'm interested in learning more about CS.  I'd also like to know if there is 
 anyone on the list who lives in my area that is making their own CS and 
 would be willing to sell some at a reasonable cost.  I'm thinking of using 
 CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use 
 some for myself (many health problems).
 
 I'll try to dig up the information on the Gatorade-CS test in the archive.  
 I'm curious to know what it's all about.
 
 Looking forward to gaining information.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Eleanor
  

Eleanor: Most of us on this list would strongly recommend that you learn how 
to make your own CS. There are many ways to do it. The archives have many 
posts on this subject, and there is probably no best way to do it. As far as 
the CS/Gatorade tests are concerned, allow me to provide you with a little 
background (see below). Roger

CS/Gaterade Testers: Bob is ready to receive orders. In addition, I have 
outlined test guidelines below. PLEASE READ THEM COMPLETELY. If any of you 
cannot participate personally, please consider becoming a sponsor so that 
others who are on a tight budget can become part of our study. We have one 
person as a sponsor already. BTW, if any of you has a rich uncle/aunt 
somewhere, consider asking him/her to become a sponsor as well. The more 
people who participate, the more reliable our results. Roger

Send $15 and your shipping address to: Bob Berger, System Tech Engineering, 
12303 E. 89th Street, Kansas City, MO 64138-5150. You will receive two liters 
of test solution that you will need to dilute. As soon as I get the exact 
analysis, Bob or I will tell you the proportion of DW and test solution to 
use to make the correct dilution.

Anyone who is suffering from a serious illness should not participate in this 
study, rather he/she should seek medical assistance as soon as possible. 
Remember, the money you are paying is to participate in this TEST. You are 
NOT paying to receive CS. As a matter of fact, half of you will not receive 
CS at all. By structuring our test this way, I will be able to take into 
account any placebo effect that may be factored into your performance 
observations.

Please don't discuss your test details, or personal conclusions with anyone. 
Otherwise, you and/or others could be influenced by such discussions. Feel 
free to use the test solution on as many people or ailments as you wish, but 
keep in mind that you will have to maintain a journal for EACH of them, and 
your test solution may run out before you can reach any conclusions. However, 
you can order or reorder as much test solution as you think you'll need in 
two liter batches @ $15/batch. 

As far as keeping a journal is concerned, feel free to do it anyway you like 
in order to answer the following survey questionnaire for EACH PERSON AND/OR 
AILMENT treated:

SURVEY QUESTIONNAIRE

For each type of ailment or person treated, please
 provide SEPARATE answers to the following questions 

(1) What type of ailment did you treat? 
(2) Gender and age of person treated. 
(3) Which one of the two types of CS [CS by itself or (1 part CS + 2 parts 
Gatorade)] worked better than your home made CS for this ailment or person?
(4) Did the CS + Gatorade work better that the CS by itself for this ailment 
or person?  

There is no exact answer as to WHEN you should send me your completed 
questionnaire. The more time you have to examine the test solution 
performance, the more certain you will be of your conclusions, but keep in 
mind that during the test you may not be using an effective CS prep to treat 
an ailment. If I had to guess at an answer, I would say that your journal 
should have 3-6 months of entries before you should try to draw any 
conclusions, but that's just a guess. Every situation is different. However, 
there is nothing wrong with sending me your PRELIMINARY conclusions if you're 
so inclined.

Well, that's about it. If you see some glaring omission or error, feel free 
to let me know.

Roger  
  

Subj:Re: CSRe:IV--USEFUL ALTERNATIVE
Date:   10/24/00 11:29:55 PM EST
From:   liat...@flash.net (BROOKS BRADLEY)
Reply-to:   silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

To all interested List Members.
Some years ago, we found a very useful alternative to 
IV
utilization of CS in human volunteers.  By diluting 2 ounces of 5 to 10 ppm CS
with approximately 4 ounces of water and mixing the proper amount of powdered
gatorade (or any balanced fluid

Re: CSGatorade- CS test.

[Ode Coyote]

  I have been feeding my cats CS every day in their food for about two
years. One cat with a history of severe flea bite allergy [looked like a
mangey dog most of her life] has had a clear healthy coat for the entire time.
Ken

At 11:33 PM 7/3/01 -, you wrote:


Hi I'm new to the list.  My name is Eleanor and I live in Quebec.  I'm only 
now just learning about CS, in fact I found this list through another list 
that is for cats (I feed mine raw).

I'm interested in learning more about CS.  I'd also like to know if there is 
anyone on the list who lives in my area that is making their own CS and 
would be willing to sell some at a reasonable cost.  I'm thinking of using 
CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use 
some for myself (many health problems).

I'll try to dig up the information on the Gatorade-CS test in the archive.  
I'm curious to know what it's all about.

Looking forward to gaining information.

Sincerely,

Eleanor

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CSGatorade- CS test.

[Robert L. Berger]

To those participating in the test, the first set of three two liter
bottles ship today priority mail.

Ole Bob


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Re: CSGatorade- CS test.

[Lynda Khula]

hi I hate to do this but I have to back out of the study I did not know
that some people did not get the cs,,, my sister has lung cancer in both
lungs and I have been putting all my time in taking care of her and helping
with anything I can and she has had her kemo and she can not be around sick
people, so sorry, Lynda


- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: CSGatorade- CS test.


 To those participating in the test, the first set of three two liter
 bottles ship today priority mail.

 Ole Bob


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Re: CSGatorade- CS test.

[kukurippa _]

Hi I'm new to the list.  My name is Eleanor and I live in Quebec.  I'm only 
now just learning about CS, in fact I found this list through another list 
that is for cats (I feed mine raw).


I'm interested in learning more about CS.  I'd also like to know if there is 
anyone on the list who lives in my area that is making their own CS and 
would be willing to sell some at a reasonable cost.  I'm thinking of using 
CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use 
some for myself (many health problems).


I'll try to dig up the information on the Gatorade-CS test in the archive.  
I'm curious to know what it's all about.


Looking forward to gaining information.

Sincerely,

Eleanor

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RE: CSGatorade- CS test.

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Have you read the posts regarding using a CS MSM mixture with oxygen in a
nebulizer?  It is in the list archives.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Lynda Khula [mailto:ne...@clinic.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGatorade- CS test.

hi I hate to do this but I have to back out of the study I did not know
that some people did not get the cs,,, my sister has lung cancer in both
lungs and I have been putting all my time in taking care of her and helping
with anything I can and she has had her kemo and she can not be around sick
people, so sorry, Lynda


- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: CSGatorade- CS test.


 To those participating in the test, the first set of three two liter
 bottles ship today priority mail.

 Ole Bob


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Re: CSBYU CS Test

[Ivan Anderson]

Hi there Ole Bob,

96% elemental, 4% ionic!
I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much
more effective in the test tube than elemental.

Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver
is ionised in the body.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here,  Does that  raise some
questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental
silver???, but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy.

A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test.
http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm

I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product
are to be freely available!

Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09
Subject: CSBYU CS Test


 Hi Ya'all;

 Its pot stirring time again

 I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks
ago
 and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work
was
 done by one of his  graduate students, David Revelli. The material was
 as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a
 Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic
 silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about
 10nm in size.

 They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction.

 Does that  raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2
 test for elemental silver???

 Ole Bob



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CSBYU CS Test

[Fred]

Was it tested with H2O2 and was it polarity reversed product?

If so, what were the results, what rep rate and electrode spacing?

f...@health2us.com

At 02:48 AM 6/30/2000, you wrote:

Hi Ya'all;

Its pot stirring time again

I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago
and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was
done by one of his  graduate students, David Revelli. The material was
as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a
Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic
silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about
10nm in size.

They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction.

Does that  raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2
test for elemental silver???

Ole Bob



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Re: CSBYU CS Test

[Daniel Holly]

How about  Water Oz silver?
That's supposed to be even better. It is made by an advanced method



- Original Message - 
From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: CSBYU CS Test


 Hi there Ole Bob,
 
 96% elemental, 4% ionic!
 I have been privy to test results which show ionic silver to be much
 more effective in the test tube than elemental.
 
 Perhaps it is a further indication that in order to be absorbed silver
 is ionised in the body.
 
 I'm not sure what you are getting at here,  Does that  raise some
 questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2 test for elemental
 silver???, but I should think the ASAP would fizz like crazy.
 
 A link to American Silver, the producers of ASAP used in these test.
 http://www.amsilver.com/news.htm
 
 I notice that it is stated that the test results done on this product
 are to be freely available!
 
 Also American Silver has filed a patent application for their process.
 
 Ivan.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
 To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, 30 June 2000 14:09
 Subject: CSBYU CS Test
 
 
  Hi Ya'all;
 
  Its pot stirring time again
 
  I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks
 ago
  and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work
 was
  done by one of his  graduate students, David Revelli. The material was
  as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a
  Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic
  silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about
  10nm in size.
 
  They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction.
 
  Does that  raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2
  test for elemental silver???
 
  Ole Bob
 
 
 
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Re: CSBYU CS Test

[Robert L. Berger]

Hi Fred;

All I know is what I put on the list. I have since asked Ron Leavitt several
questions and hope to get a reply. He said that the ASAP is a true colloid
!!! And that most of our stuff is not. I need an input from Stephen Quinto.

Ole Bob


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Re: CSBYU CS Test

[Pamela Grant]

Is a true colloid of silver ionic, thus meaning a dissolved form of
silver?

PG



Hi Fred;

All I know is what I put on the list. I have since asked Ron Leavitt several
questions and hope to get a reply. He said that the ASAP is a true colloid
!!! And that most of our stuff is not. I need an input from Stephen Quinto.

Ole Bob


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CSBYU CS Test

[Robert L. Berger]

Hi Ya'all;

Its pot stirring time again

I contacted BYU about the report that was on the list several weeks ago
and have just received an answer from Prof. Ron W. Leavitt. The work was
done by one of his  graduate students, David Revelli. The material was
as commercial CS sold under the name of ASAP. As tested with a
Perkin-Elmers atomic adsorption instrument it was less then 4% ionic
silver and 96% elemental silver.. The majority of particles were about
10nm in size.

They are continuing the work and will submit for publiction.

Does that  raise some questions about polarity reversal and the H2O2
test for elemental silver???

Ole Bob


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CSmold/cs test

[Kato109]

Thanks to everyone who answered me about my mold test.
I guess I realized that, as Nancy said, I don't really know what it would 
look like if the cs killed the mold - and that I was sort of expecting it to 
disappear. And I didn't put enough for it to turn pink, like Taylor's did. 
Now, if I'd had Wong's response - that the mold died wherever the cs touched 
it - then I would have been happy - since I expected it to need contact for a 
while in order to kill it. Wong - I think yours was working if it killed it 
on direct contact.
So, now I'm trying a new experiment instead -- I drew lines of cs on a piece 
of bread and put it in with the mold. So we'll see if it gets moldy in 
stripes!
Anyhow, thanks everyone and I'll report back.
Take care,
Katarina
Ps. James Allison - I think Sam answerd your question? anyhow, it was my 
assumption that if the cs kills fungus it should kill mold if it was working.


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Re: CS Test number one

[M. G. Devour]

Well, that wasn't as hard as it *could* have been!

Let's see if they nest, or not...

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CS Test number one

[M. G. Devour]

This is only a test

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CS TEST

[chc]

I am new to this list, so I  feel a little awkward giving my 2 cents,
when I have come in at the end of the discussions at the money
collecting stage.

But, I would like to help in same way, because I believe in what people
on this list are trying to do, Take control of their health and
wellness, and helping others do the same.

I also have not pledged any money, because I am not sure what  goals are
to be achieved by the CS testing. What are the specific results you are
trying to achieve, and why? Can we post and agree on those?

What are all of the variables??  (We are doing an experiment here.)

What sort of things can change those variables? Which variables do we
have control over?

If we brainstorm, what are the most efficient, cost effective ways to
achieve our agreed upon goals considering all of the variables?

Will the ways we choose to test be statistically reliable? Be easily
reproduceable?

How much effort (time) and how much money are we willing to spend until
we achieve our agreed upon goals?

For me, when my goals are not clearly defined when I go to research
something, I always end up finding myself chasing my tail. I also find
that I  will run off in many directions, most of them not +, when I do
not look at all of the variables, before I do anything.

It seems to me that if the group who want to get some results, for
whatever purpose, can nail down all of that and then put it out to have
ideas on what is the best way to achieve those goals, considering all of
those variables, this exercise would not be so overwhelming.

I do not know how I can help the group at this point, because I see so
many variables involved, the water, being a biggee, that I am not sure
you  can control the variables in order to create a standardized method,
to produce a constant result, reproducible by someone else in a
different area! (sorry for the run on)

How do all the other voyeurs on this list feel???

chc




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CS Test Results provided by GfSE maker #2

[robert . wells]

To all readers of my earlier posting on this subject:
Please note that the table provided in my last posting is hard to read
because of the spacing of the tabs.  Therefore, please adjust the spacing
so that the numbers line up correctly.  If it is too confusing, let me know
and I'll try to repost.

Bob Wells

CS Test Results provided by GfSE maker

[robert . wells]

I've taken the time to read through the test results by Bio-Research
Laboratories.

Here is some of the information from their tests:

Method:
A microbiological assay was used to evaluate the potency of each sample
against five different microorganisms (Candida albicans, Staphylococcus
aureus, Salmonella typhi, Streptococcus faccium, Escherichia coli).  Each
organism was grown as a continuous lawn and zones of inhibition were
measured to determine the minimum inhibitory concentration of the products.
A zone of less than 10 mm in diameter has been defined as having no
inhibition.

Procedure:
Sterile swabs were used to streak each trypticase soy agar (TSA) plate from
a 0.5 McFarland standard of each microorganism.  Four agar plugs were then
removed from each plate to provide a reservoir for a series of log
dilutions made from each sample in sterile deionized water.  A series of
four dilutions were made from 10^^-1 (0.1 g/ml) to 10^^-4 (0.0001 g/ml).
Each agar well was filled with 0.1 ml at each dilution.  The agar was
allowed to absorb dilutions and plates were incubated face up for 24 hours
at 37 degrees C.  The zones of inhibition were then measured.

All microorganisms tested showed some inhibition to Microdyn with a gradual
decline in effect and finally a no effect dilution.
At a concentration of 0.01 grams of Microdyn per ml of sterile deionized
water, Candida Albicans was not inhibited (e.g. did not maintain at least a
10 mm zone free of the microorganism).  Staphylococcus aureus was inhibited
in a 10 mm diameter zone,   Salmonella typhi was inhibited in a 12 mm zone,
Streptococcus faccium was inhibited in a 10 mm zone and Escherichia coli
was inhibited in a 14 mm zone.
At a concentration of 0.1 grams of Microdyn per ml of sterile deionized
water Candida albicans was inhibited in a 20 mm zone, Staphyloccous aureus
was inhibited in a 19 mm diameter zone,   Salmonella typhi was inhibited in
a 25 mm zone, Streptococcus faccium was inhibited in a 16 mm zone and
Escherichia coli was inhibited in an 18 mm zone.

According to the tests the minimum concentrations required to maintain at
least a 10 mm microorganism free zone was as follows:

   Can  Staph Sal  Strep  Esch
Nutri Biotic.001 .0001 .0001  .001  .001
Microdyn Silver  .1   .01  .01   .01  .01
Suprayod   .01  .01  .01  .1   .1
Clorox  .001 .01  .01  .1.01
Maleleuca  .01  .01  .01  .1   .01

OK, that's the essence of the report.  What I couldn't tell from the test
results was the ppm of Microdyn Silver Oxide.  For that matter, I'm not
even sure that Microdyn Silver Oxide is what we call Colloidal Silver.  Is
anyone familiar with Microdyn Silver Oxide?  It would help if we knew
whether it is made essentially the same way we make it and whether it is 5
ppm or 30 ppm, for example.

Also, I've never dealt with Suprayod.  Many thanks to those of you who
explained that Maleleuca is TEA TREE OIL -- an anti-parasitic.

The tests on everything but Maleleuca were run in 1995.  The Maleleuca test
was run early in 1998.

So, now you know all that I do.  Any comments?

Bob Wells

Labs for CS test

[Berntsen]

My web page lists one that's only $10 for the test.
http://www.connix.com/~berntsen/bb-lyme/c-silver.htm

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Nancy Berntsen
mailto:bernt...@bigfoot.com
http://www.connix.com/~berntsenProv. 3:5,6

Trust in the Lord with all your heart
And lean not on your own understanding,
In all your ways acknowlege him
And he will direct your paths.