Re: CSCigarette addiction
The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It's scientifically proven and Big Pharma is actively developing analogues for the active ingredient. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/salvia_kappa_opioid.html On 22 Sep 2006 at 0:14, Ian Roe wrote: I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCigarette addiction
Hi, Why of course. They watch what is going on and if they smell money, the 'whatever' becomes a Class 4 drug, then it comes on the market under another name. Lunesta is a prime example. It is tweaked (twisted). Rozerem is another. It is tweaked melatonin. The twisted natural product now carries side effects. Do they care what we think? Not a bit. Jean ** The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It's scientifically proven and Big Pharma is actively developing analogues for the active ingredient. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/salvia_kappa_opioid.html On 22 Sep 2006 at 0:14, Ian Roe wrote: I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCigarette addiction
Duncan, How is the Salvia administered for this use? Is it smoked? Chewed quid? Straight leaf or concentrate? Does one have to get off on it in order to have effects? I was thinking that CS might be very useful to growers to combat the susceptibility to root rot. Dan -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:54 AM To: Ian Roe; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCigarette addiction The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It's scientifically proven and Big Pharma is actively developing analogues for the active ingredient. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/salvia_kappa_opioid.html On 22 Sep 2006 at 0:14, Ian Roe wrote: I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
- Original Message - The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It is also being outlawed in some states. I think MO is one state. Google videos have a bunch of clips showing users getting off using this stuff. You can read more about that stuff, and order some, here: sagewisdom.org I love the testimonials there. Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think that 47.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot. From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com Date: 2006/09/22 Fri AM 12:14:11 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCigarette addiction I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. A lot of people don't know that. Secondly, a lot of well meaning people who have never gone through addiction tell the smoker that if they just quit smoking everything will be ok. - and they know it isn't because when they quit smoking everything is terrible. If only for the process of healing itself which takes a month for every year of smoking. Addicts get a feeling just before they engage their habits. The habits are their way of eliminating that feeling. The feeling is more of a problem than the habit. Acknowledgement of those feelings is a first step, but addicts have been constantly told the substance is the problem and that's not true, the subtance use is only a symptom of the problem. Addicts don't think the feelings are the problem because well meaning people have told them the tobacco or the alcohol was the problem and they fell for it because as long as they can blame it on the subtance, they don't have to face the responsibility for the way they feel. Like Terry Said, EFT www.emofree.com is very effective at dealing with those feelings, one at a time and EFT also deals with the polarity reversals in chronic problems. Also the brain tuner is 50% effective at eliminating tobacco addiction (95% with heroin), because of the difference already mentioned. see www.sotainstruments.com But they still have to deal with those 'feelings'. Non addicts get the feelings too but deal with them in other ways that are not always healthy either - as they may be obsessive compulsive or have some other neurosis. Ian Roe - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: CSCigarette addiction Scott, EFT is very, very effective against cigarette addiction. For your wife, you should look into it. www.emofree.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
The users shown are mostly juvenile, and apparently irresponsible. As with any substance be it herbs, alcohol, food, drugs (legal or otherwise), self- responsibility is a major consideration. People are prone to abuse or subject anything that brings an altered state of mind to the level of casual recreation. I always find it interesting.kids are conditioned from an early age by watching adults. Adults are often very irresponsible. Suddenly, at the age of 18 or 21 juvenilles are granted the ability to make responsible choices and are believed to have the wisdom to know the difference. If you research the Herb further and not be swayed by the cheaper, irreverent sensationalism portrayed in the home videos you will find it has many uses. Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com wrote: - Original Message - The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It is also being outlawed in some states. I think MO is one state. Google videos have a bunch of clips showing users getting off using this stuff. You can read more about that stuff, and order some, here: sagewisdom.org I love the testimonials there. Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
RE: CSCigarette addiction
Dan, No doubt Duncan will reply. But hopefully you will not mind if I add my own comments as well. With Salvia one does not get off in the usual sense associated with drugs such as Marijuana, meth, cocaine, etc. Nor is there any addiction associated with its use. If anything, I have found it to be relaxing, affording one the ability to gently see and feel what is otherwise obscured by the rigors and demands of everyday stress, tension and external diversions. Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Duncan, How is the Salvia administered for this use? Is it smoked? Chewed quid? Straight leaf or concentrate? Does one have to get off on it in order to have effects? I was thinking that CS might be very useful to growers to combat the susceptibility to root rot. Dan -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:54 AM To: Ian Roe; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCigarette addiction The herb salvia divinorum is being used occasionally, once or twice a week, to reduce the need for nicotine and other addicting substances. It's scientifically proven and Big Pharma is actively developing analogues for the active ingredient. Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/salvia_kappa_opioid.html On 22 Sep 2006 at 0:14, Ian Roe wrote: I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min.
Re: CSCigarette addiction
Hi Carol Ann, No doubt Duncan will reply. But hopefully you will not mind if I add my own comments as well. With Salvia one does not get off in the usual sense associated with drugs such as Marijuana, meth, cocaine, etc. Nor is there any addiction associated with its use. If anything, I have found it to be relaxing, affording one the ability to gently see and feel what is otherwise obscured by the rigors and demands of everyday stress, tension and external diversions. How much are you using and what strength? I have found it to be a profound experience, with intense visual and auditory components, and movement to where I am no longer in 3D space. I was using 8X. Do you experience the sweating, etc. Unfortunately, I cannot tolerate the intensity of the smoke nor the tincture anymore. But I have just found The Bukket which may be ok because the smoke is cold (I know about the other cold smoke thingies, but haven't taken the time to make one). http://www.bukket.com just for your info, no involvement personally or in any other way, except have purchased one:) FWIW, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
My thoughts on addiction ...In my own experiences and memories it seems that addictions sometimes can start in early childhood and there are many that come to mind ..based on a need to be happy ,feel good ,to be free of painful things and always searching for the ultimate high...tobacco was hard to put away and forget ...and also I must attest to the fact that addiction doesn't lesson up as I age ...I just had a coffee and two chocolate cookies ...while celebrating the fact that I am now a senior citizen ... :O) with respect Norm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
I missed the orginal post but I want to point out here that tobacco addictiction is 4 1/2 times harder to get out of than heroin addiction. A lot of people don't know that. Secondly, a lot of well meaning people who have never gone through addiction tell the smoker that if they just quit smoking everything will be ok. - and they know it isn't because when they quit smoking everything is terrible. If only for the process of healing itself which takes a month for every year of smoking. Addicts get a feeling just before they engage their habits. The habits are their way of eliminating that feeling. The feeling is more of a problem than the habit. Acknowledgement of those feelings is a first step, but addicts have been constantly told the substance is the problem and that's not true, the subtance use is only a symptom of the problem. Addicts don't think the feelings are the problem because well meaning people have told them the tobacco or the alcohol was the problem and they fell for it because as long as they can blame it on the subtance, they don't have to face the responsibility for the way they feel. Like Terry Said, EFT www.emofree.com is very effective at dealing with those feelings, one at a time and EFT also deals with the polarity reversals in chronic problems. Also the brain tuner is 50% effective at eliminating tobacco addiction (95% with heroin), because of the difference already mentioned. see www.sotainstruments.com But they still have to deal with those 'feelings'. Non addicts get the feelings too but deal with them in other ways that are not always healthy either - as they may be obsessive compulsive or have some other neurosis. Ian Roe - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: CSCigarette addiction Scott, EFT is very, very effective against cigarette addiction. For your wife, you should look into it. www.emofree.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCigarette addiction
Scott, EFT is very, very effective against cigarette addiction. For your wife, you should look into it. www.emofree.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
Thanks again, Terry. I hope my wife is willing to do just about anything to quit. Scott Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Scott, EFT is very, very effective against cigarette addiction. For your wife, you should look into it. www.emofree.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour In His Service, Scott - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Re: CSCigarette addiction - 18 Sept
One of the hardest lessons about/from life I have learned, is that each and every one of us has free choice - to disrespect this aspect of each and every one of us is to show general disrespect for life - therefore hard as it is to watch a loved one do the very thing which is not good for them - it is a wonderful lesson of letting go of control, and allowing the loved one to do as they choose and not as we would want them to do - be blessed and stay strong during this dark and difficult part of your journey through life - Warmest regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction - 18 Sept
Well said Sandeepeople can make up their own minds and willdebbie Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: One of the hardest lessons about/from life I have learned, is that each and every one of us has free choice - to disrespect this aspect of each and every one of us is to show general disrespect for life - therefore hard as it is to watch a loved one do the very thing which is not good for them - it is a wonderful lesson of letting go of control, and allowing the loved one to do as they choose and not as we would want them to do - be blessed and stay strong during this dark and difficult part of your journey through life - Warmest regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: CSCigarette addiction
A few of our trial subjects are smoking a lot less after taking a herb, salvia divinorum, once or twice a week. It's also working on alcohol, heroin, cocaine and crystal meth addiction. This is a non-addictive approach that happens to fill the exact receptor sites that cause addiction. It's also an analgesic and it can be used for eating disorders and a few other purposes. I have the scientific detail posted on my site; Gooogle: salvia kappa opioid references Duncan Crow On 18 Sep 2006 at 5:39, Scott wrote: Thanks again, Terry. I hope my wife is willing to do just about anything to quit. Scott Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Scott, EFT is very, very effective against cigarette addiction. For your wife, you should look into it. www.emofree.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCigarette addiction
Hi Duncan, A few of our trial subjects are smoking a lot less after taking a herb, salvia divinorum, once or twice a week. It's also working on alcohol, heroin, cocaine and crystal meth addiction. How are they using it? Smoking, chewing (its really nasty tasting stuff), or? Thanks, Craig This is a non-addictive approach that happens to fill the exact receptor sites that cause addiction. It's also an analgesic and it can be used for eating disorders and a few other purposes. I have the scientific detail posted on my site; Gooogle: salvia kappa opioid references -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
