Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
No, it is not exactly like saying any such silly thing. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:30 AM Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings Isn't that like saying that morphine doesn't stop pain if you don't like the spacey buzz? Hate pot or not, if you toke it or eat it, your lungs dry out and the passages clear. ..two tokes saved my strangling ex from a coma and she hated pot too. [and worked a pee bottle job ] Nothing else even touched it, not even the opium derivatives, but the evil weed got her breathing easy in 30 seconds after nearly turning blue and not sleeping for a week. ..and only one application needed. Ode At 03:59 PM 6/14/2008 -0400, you wrote: but a good dose of pot might help. Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode . Pot does not help if you hate it. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
Isn't that like saying that morphine doesn't stop pain if you don't like the spacey buzz? Hate pot or not, if you toke it or eat it, your lungs dry out and the passages clear. ..two tokes saved my strangling ex from a coma and she hated pot too. [and worked a pee bottle job ] Nothing else even touched it, not even the opium derivatives, but the evil weed got her breathing easy in 30 seconds after nearly turning blue and not sleeping for a week. ..and only one application needed. Ode At 03:59 PM 6/14/2008 -0400, you wrote: but a good dose of pot might help. Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode . Pot does not help if you hate it. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
CS decontaminates, pot de congests. [The cotton mouth side effect ] De congesting helps inhaled CS penetrate in order to de contaminate. Inhaling anything is only bettered by injection as a most direct route to the blood stream. [Ask any crack head ] ..even illicit drugs can teach something to someone who's not dumb enough to get themselves strung out on them. Proceed cautiously, observe carefully, adjust behavior and uses accordingly and no substance will be a problem on its own, legal or not. Sometimes, trading a lessor problem in to adjust the effects of a worse one is worth doing. If catching an opinion of an unpleasant buzz will save my butt..I'll go for the buzz. If I have to keep that buzz for very long, it ain't working as desired, so try I'll something else. If it does work, I don't have to keep it going. ode At 01:49 PM 6/15/2008 +0100, you wrote: The CS or the pot? Dee ---Original Message--- From: mailto:odecoy...@alltel.netOde Coyote Date: 06/14/08 18:39:34 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 6/15/2008 5:52 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
Righto! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 16/06/2008 16:27:51 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings CS decontaminates, pot de congests. [The cotton mouth side effect ] De congesting helps inhaled CS penetrate in order to de contaminate. Inhaling anything is only bettered by injection as a most direct route to the blood stream. [Ask any crack head ] ...even illicit drugs can teach something to someone who's not dumb enough to get themselves strung out on them.
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
The CS or the pot? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 06/14/08 18:39:34 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
How are people screwing up your genes? What I was suggesting was the value and wisdom of preventing already screwed up genes from being passed down. Ode And I don't think *anyone* has the right to screw up my genes without my knowledge and consent. But it is being done, on purpose anyway. Sometimes I wonder why I bother voting, except maybe to be heard from. kathryn On Jun 13, 2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
At 02:54 PM 6/13/2008 -0700, you wrote: On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Ode wrote: For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage What works for this, does CS? Nancy ## Not likely, other than for prevention... The sniffles last longer than the cause of sniffles but a good dose of pot might help. Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
but a good dose of pot might help. Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode . Pot does not help if you hate it. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure. In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an immune system response that's sufficient to trigger antibody production without going into inflammation. What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do to produce a given antibody to a particular class of virus. Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, that's what makes them so hard to defeat. An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into producing antibodies one way or another. Usually a weakened or similar but *relatively* harmless live virus is used to do that job. If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used. A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and dead strains. Part of that immune system response can be inflammation. If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body requires inflammation to get the job done, the immune system triggered can be a big problem, no matter what triggers it. It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine damage, [Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] however...even though the odds of catching a destructive virus may be reduced with care and the default of everyone else being vaccinated, catching that virus will always be a possibility, with the same, or worse, consequences. Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate invasion from a vaccine will likely inflame far more and have other destructive possibilities than the weakened or relatively harmless similar virus has. Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart valves, ear drums, optic nerves and other delicate things. Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, it's an over response to it that does. For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a mosquito and that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool. With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing something similar. If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be bred out of the population by selective reproductive sterilization..but that's playing God..isn't it? Everyone has a God given right to screw up everyones genes even when they know they might very likely do so. [wink] PS Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic trait as well. [The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while the hairy skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ] Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the tooth rot I want and not get big as a house while they can eat all the sweet house building bricks they want and not rot teeth. Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter. Ode At 12:47 PM 6/12/2008 -0500, you wrote: Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did not see the one about the inflammation. So if it is inflammation, why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems? My son had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed that statement up. oh well... kathryn On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to. Ie: Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying. It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle under to public pressure when an alternative is adequately functional. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1500 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 4:58 PM
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
At 08:21 PM 6/12/2008 +0100, you wrote: I read that autism *is* caused by the mercury in vaccines, but only in children that lack the ability to rid their bodies of 'heavy' metals, (something to do with Vit D synthesis?) which is why not all vaccinated children become autistic. This came from the Institute of Autism. Dee Read some more and from more recent research..not just from the American sources, unfounded conspiracy theory sites and rumor mills. In Denmark?, Mercury levels were about identical in both sorts of kids and none had mercury in their vaccines. On the internet, anyone can appear to be anyone they want to . Many sources and the application of logic eliminates the conflicts in info Presented As the final word by those who may or may not be who they say they are. Diagnosis comes from commonalities over conflicts, be it a mechanic or a doctor. If you find a commonality that will contain the conflicts, that's probably the best picture available and a good starting point towards a bigger one that holds solutions. Mercury would have been simpler and easier to avoid...too bad. Ode ---Original Message--- From: mailto:clay...@skypoint.comClayton Family Date: 12/06/2008 18:48:01 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did not see the one about the inflammation. So if it is inflammation, why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems? My son had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed that statement up. oh well... kathryn On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1500 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 4:58 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
Interesting. So the bird flu kills due to enhanced inflammatory response? I thought it was immune system overdrive. But perhaps I repeat myself. I remember in my previous readings about the polio vac- the Sauk vac is a killed vac, while the Sabin is live. The Sabin vac causes x # cases of polio per thousand uses, the Sauk vac causes zero. IMHO, it is unconscienable to submit innocent children to unnecessary suffering. I understand the reasoning behind the decision, but I seriously disagree with it. There are too many problems with live viruses, but the public health people do not agree with me. They think more about collateral damage being the cost of victory, they think it is the greatest good for the greatest number, I guess. And I don't think *anyone* has the right to screw up my genes without my knowledge and consent. But it is being done, on purpose anyway. Sometimes I wonder why I bother voting, except maybe to be heard from. kathryn On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure. In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an immune system response that's sufficient to trigger antibody production without going into inflammation. What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do to produce a given antibody to a particular class of virus. Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, that's what makes them so hard to defeat. An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into producing antibodies one way or another. Usually a weakened or similar but *relatively* harmless live virus is used to do that job. If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used. A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and dead strains. Part of that immune system response can be inflammation. If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body requires inflammation to get the job done, the immune system triggered can be a big problem, no matter what triggers it. It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine damage, [Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] however...even though the odds of catching a destructive virus may be reduced with care and the default of everyone else being vaccinated, catching that virus will always be a possibility, with the same, or worse, consequences. Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate invasion from a vaccine will likely inflame far more and have other destructive possibilities than the weakened or relatively harmless similar virus has. Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart valves, ear drums, optic nerves and other delicate things. Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, it's an over response to it that does. For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a mosquito and that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool. With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing something similar. If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be bred out of the population by selective reproductive sterilization..but that's playing God..isn't it? Everyone has a God given right to screw up everyones genes even when they know they might very likely do so. [wink] PS Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic trait as well. [The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while the hairy skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ] Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the tooth rot I want and not get big as a house while they can eat all the sweet house building bricks they want and not rot teeth. Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter. Ode At 12:47 PM 6/12/2008 -0500, you wrote: Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did not see the one about the inflammation. So if it is inflammation, why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems? My son had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed that statement up. oh well... kathryn On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to. Ie: Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying. It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle under to public pressure
RE: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
[nod] You wrote: [wink] Dan -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure. In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an immune system response that's sufficient to trigger antibody production without going into inflammation. What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do to produce a given antibody to a particular class of virus. Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, that's what makes them so hard to defeat. An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into producing antibodies one way or another. Usually a weakened or similar but *relatively* harmless live virus is used to do that job. If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used. A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and dead strains. Part of that immune system response can be inflammation. If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body requires inflammation to get the job done, the immune system triggered can be a big problem, no matter what triggers it. It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine damage, [Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] however...even though the odds of catching a destructive virus may be reduced with care and the default of everyone else being vaccinated, catching that virus will always be a possibility, with the same, or worse, consequences. Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate invasion from a vaccine will likely inflame far more and have other destructive possibilities than the weakened or relatively harmless similar virus has. Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart valves, ear drums, optic nerves and other delicate things. Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, it's an over response to it that does. For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a mosquito and that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool. With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing something similar. If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be bred out of the population by selective reproductive sterilization..but that's playing God..isn't it? Everyone has a God given right to screw up everyones genes even when they know they might very likely do so. [wink] PS Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic trait as well. [The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while the hairy skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ] Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the tooth rot I want and not get big as a house while they can eat all the sweet house building bricks they want and not rot teeth. Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Ode wrote: For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage What works for this, does CS? Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did not see the one about the inflammation. So if it is inflammation, why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems? My son had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed that statement up. oh well... kathryn On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to. Ie: Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying. It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle under to public pressure when an alternative is adequately functional. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
I read that autism *is* caused by the mercury in vaccines, but only in children that lack the ability to rid their bodies of 'heavy' metals, (something to do with Vit D synthesis?) which is why not all vaccinated children become autistic. This came from the Institute of Autism. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 12/06/2008 18:48:01 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did not see the one about the inflammation. So if it is inflammation, why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems? My son had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed that statement up. oh well... kathryn On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
This is very good news Kurt. Dee ---Original Message--- From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com Date: 10/06/2008 23:11:23 To: 8th...@yahoogroups.com; avian2...@yahoogroups.com; thefrontp...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment. Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets. This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money. Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception around amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of the way that over enough time things can be changed.
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
No problem. I figured there would be a few that liked this one, especially Mike? Kurt Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: This is very good news Kurt. Dee ---Original Message--- From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com Date: 10/06/2008 23:11:23 To: 8th...@yahoogroups.com; avian2...@yahoogroups.com; thefrontp...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment. Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets. This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money. Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception around amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of the way that over enough time things can be changed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to. Ie: Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying. It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle under to public pressure when an alternative is adequately functional. It proves that pressure works, based in fact or not. [The truth, WHAT EVER it may be... is irrelevant...when the why nots, overwhelm the why tos and the consumer is willing to pay the difference when a somewhat less reliable, more expensive, but adequately functional filling leaks. Pick Mercury content as a reason, valid or not..and there ya go. ] It has been shown that it's the inflammation from the vaccine that causes Autism, but only in genetically weakened individuals, as would the disease the vaccine is designed to prevent. But that can't be proven because taking the Vaccine prevents the second scenario. On the other hand, not being vaccinated doesn't mean you'll catch a disease, which accounts for statistical differences. On the other other hand, those who do get vaccinated transfer a sort of protection to those who aren't by interrupting the transmission vectors. Yes, treatments can be dangerous. The question is ALWAYS, is the treatment more or less dangerous that what is being treated? ..and, are there safer alternatives that actually work more reliably? Sometimes there are, but that's no reason to throw rocks at doctors who labor under threat of lawsuit and unable to try anything out of that *safe legal box*, for not knowing everything under the sun and taking a chance on something relatively more unproven. A doctor cannot choose something that may not be more reliable, yet might work with less danger. YOU can do that only because suing yourself doesn't pay. EVERYONE goes by their *best guess* [and denying ignorance has never equaled knowing anything ] A guess can work for no known reason at all, in spite of any wrong but irrelevant reasons. There ARE no absolute truths on this planet..everything is relative in a dualistic universe. Those who insist otherwise are lying in the *same manner* they claim someone else is. To go Your way doesn't require changing everyone elses. ..and billions of people can be just as dead wrong as one person can be. This was not a victory, it was a pressured vindication, proving only that people in numbers have the same power to manipulate policy that a public office has, regardless of any truths. Jim Crow showed us another, albeit, more starkly consequential example. Ode At 06:10 PM 6/10/2008 -0400, you wrote: How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment. Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets. This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money. Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception around amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of the way that over enough time things can be changed. These groups (including AAHF) developed strategies, built a united voice, and relied on credible information. To change the policy, there were petitions, Congressional hearings, state fact sheet laws, Scientific Advisory Committee hearings, and support letters, all setting the stage for the lawsuit. It appears that somehow our system of Government occasionally works! Even the FDA cannot stay above the law forever. The FDA has thrown in the towel over mercury in amalgams! They will no longer lie on their website about its safety!! The end of mercury fillings is in sight! The team here with Charles Brown, as the lead attorney, has done the impossible. There is hope with this victory that someday other major lies about Alternative Medicine will also finally be overcome even if very slowly and expensively. This battle has cost proponents millions and those whose lives were needlessly wasted with ill health, billions! But the good news is that with enough dedication to the fight, it proves it is possible in spite of the odds, and in all of our fights there are well endowed, deeply entrenched vested interests whether you talk about Autism or Cancer or Heart Disease or learning and memory problems, status quo always raises it head. Further good news,
CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment. Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets. This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money. Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception around amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of the way that over enough time things can be changed. These groups (including AAHF) developed strategies, built a united voice, and relied on credible information. To change the policy, there were petitions, Congressional hearings, state fact sheet laws, Scientific Advisory Committee hearings, and support letters, all setting the stage for the lawsuit. It appears that somehow our system of Government occasionally works! Even the FDA cannot stay above the law forever. The FDA has thrown in the towel over mercury in amalgams! They will no longer lie on their website about its safety!! The end of mercury fillings is in sight! The team here with Charles Brown, as the lead attorney, has done the impossible. There is hope with this victory that someday other major lies about Alternative Medicine will also finally be overcome even if very slowly and expensively. This battle has cost proponents millions and those whose lives were needlessly wasted with ill health, billions! But the good news is that with enough dedication to the fight, it proves it is possible in spite of the odds, and in all of our fights there are well endowed, deeply entrenched vested interests whether you talk about Autism or Cancer or Heart Disease or learning and memory problems, status quo always raises it head. Further good news, however! The Time Magazine June 6th issue with a picture of a baby on the front cover and the article, The Truth About Vaccines, actually admits THERE IS A DANGER!!! Amazingly it concludes that with Autism there must be a genetic and environmental component. Of course, they have never read Newsweek about DNA, Epigenetics, Methylation, Agouti mice, etc so no one connects the dots. Randy Jirtle, at Duke with his Agouti Mice, then proves that with exposures to some toxins like Bisphenyl A we all have in our bodies, we can all start to be healthier with adequate methylation support. They are not aware that cheap Folic acid found in 99% of supplements will NOT fill this need optimally over a lifetime but only all three folic acid versions with B-12, B-6 and the rest of the methylation support I write about from NAC to TMG and MSM, even SAM-e etc. The defect in methylation that we now realize is proven to be related to mutations that virtually all of us have in 5’MTHFR enzyme pathways, even before we get an overload of toxins like phthalates, which are now known to be 10,000 times higher in the average person than 10 years ago, IMPAIRS OUR ABILITY TO DETOXIFY things like MERCURY. Now that we are finally aware that we need to get the mercury out of our mouths, the environment is bringing us much more mercury. The rapid construction of new Coal burning power plants around the world will make sure we all are still mercury toxic unless you follow my protocol and start a lifetime ingestion of oral chelators from DMSA to EDTA to NAC to DL METHIONE to proven clean garlic supplements, Beyond Fiber, BioEn’R-G’y C etc. Thus, just like the Time Magazine article about Vaccines and Autism states, even with the removal of most thiomersal from vaccines over the past 7 years, there is no decrease in Autism incidence. Of course, you can explain this when you read that for every new coal burning power plant in Texas the incidence of autism continues to rise, and it is now shown to be related to how close the child lives to the power plant. Garry F. Gordon MD,DO,MD(H) President, Gordon Research Institute www.gordonresearch.com Dental Mercury Victory AAHF is pleased to announce that the Food and Drug Administration must now classify mercury fillings! We congratulate Consumers for Dental Choices, Moms Against Mercury, International Academy of Oral and Metal Toxicology, and all other groups and individuals who have dedicated years to the issue of the dangers of dental mercury. This is a successful end to a 10-year battle to get the FDA to comply with the law and set a date to classify mercury amalgam. On Monday, June 2, Consumers for Dental Choice announced that they settled the lawsuit, Moms
