Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
It seems definitely the what here, as well as the concentration, Ode mentioned to me once that if I can get away with single distilling when the river is very high, whatever the contaminant is must be in lower concentration in the town water at those times. In my reply to Ole Bob, I should have also given thanks and credit to Ode, who told me from the beginning that my CS probs were due to the water, but kept answering questions and helping me also sort through everything else it could have been, until I finally came to the same conclusion. Thanks Ode! I think one reason commercial distilled water didn't work for me is that it probably comes from the same river water that is my town's water source. There aren't many other water sources in this area, and indeed local river water is sold to the next town east where the Coca Cola bottling plant is (perhaps the bottler of several brands of locally sold distilled waters?). Some of the water from the river is also sold to California. It can really be difficult to determine where one's tap water is coming from these days. sol Ode Coyote wrote: What is in trouble is the what part of the contaminants, more so than the how much. I would imagine that something like sulphur dioxide in the air would dissolve into water and really mess things up at pretty low concentrations, whereas calcium salts may not, at twice the concentration. Sol uses 'a few' of the same generators that others can make good CS with, starting with 5+ uS water. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
Sol, when you run your still do you blow-off the first steam to the air for several minutes before you turn the steam into the condensing coils? If not many components that you don't want go over into your final product. I knew a doctor in New Orleans who could not use Mississippi river water even if tripple sitilled. He had to buy water from Washington state to make his lab reagents for tropical medicine use. Ole Bob
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
Zero..which can be as high as 2 [which isn't wonderful water] or even 3-4 microsiemens of conductivity [uS]..depending on how accurate your particular PPM meter is at such low ranges. Using a PWT or COM-100 .2 uS is the best I've seen. An average good is around .8 uS [or somewhere around one tenth to one half of zero on a PPM meter] Zero is generally good enough...depending more on what is in it, more so than how much. If your CS looks good, it probably is. If it looks bad, it probably is. If you have oddball problems, change the water [and/or container] first ..no matter what the meter reading is. Water is the biggest variable. Rarely, even a fingerprint left on the wrong day after eating something can mess things up. Ode At 05:39 PM 4/5/2006 -0700, you wrote: using your TDS what measurements are you looking forTIA...deb sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silv! er List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5 - Release Date: 4/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5 - Release Date: 4/4/2006
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
At 07:34 PM 4/5/2006 -0700, you wrote: Sol, if you can't marke good EIS with as PWT reading of 3.0 then your process is in trouble. Off line please describe you setup and operating conditions. maybe I can help you. What is in trouble is the what part of the contaminants, more so than the how much. I would imagine that something like sulphur dioxide in the air would dissolve into water and really mess things up at pretty low concentrations, whereas calcium salts may not, at twice the concentration. Sol uses 'a few' of the same generators that others can make good CS with, starting with 5+ uS water. Ode Ole Bob sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I actually use a PWT. A TDS is not sensitive enough for my needs. I need to have distilled water of no more than .4 uS, which is lower than a TDS can read, so I was lucky to have chosen a PWT 3 years ago. Commercial distilled water of all brands that are available where I am read .6 uS to well over 2.5 uS. Most people (I've been told) can make very good clear CS with distilled water that reads up to 3.0 uS, but I can't. Depends on conditions where you are. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: using your TDS what measure! ments are you looking forTIA...deb sol wrote: Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silv! er List and Off Topic! List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 4/4/2006 -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5 - Release Date: 4/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5 - Release Date: 4/4/2006
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
I got my PWT from Trem at Silvergen. I'd also now consider seriously the Com-100 meter that Silverpuppy sells. It sounds like a nice one, too. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: thanks Sol did you get a pretty good deal with your PWT when you bought itdeb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
Crystal springs and Morning fresh farms seem to be fairly consistent. It all varies from jug to jug. One brand may be .2 uS one day and 2.5 uS, even 5 uS the next visit to the store. Ode At 11:42 PM 4/4/2006 -0400, you wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? I realize this can be also done at home but untill I decide on a suffcient water distiller, I'm going with something available in stores/online any suggestions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5 - Release Date: 4/3/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5 - Release Date: 4/3/2006
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
using your TDS what measurements are you looking forTIA...deb sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
I actually use a PWT. A TDS is not sensitive enough for my needs. I need to have distilled water of no more than .4 uS, which is lower than a TDS can read, so I was lucky to have chosen a PWT 3 years ago. Commercial distilled water of all brands that are available where I am read .6 uS to well over 2.5 uS. Most people (I've been told) can make very good clear CS with distilled water that reads up to 3.0 uS, but I can't. Depends on conditions where you are. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: using your TDS what measurements are you looking forTIA...deb sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silv! er List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 4/4/2006 -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
Sol, if you can't marke good EIS with as PWT reading of 3.0 then your process is in trouble. Off line please describe you setup and operating conditions. maybe I can help you. Ole Bob sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I actually use a PWT. A TDS is not sensitive enough for my needs. I need to have distilled water of no more than .4 uS, which is lower than a TDS can read, so I was lucky to have chosen a PWT 3 years ago. Commercial distilled water of all brands that are available where I am read .6 uS to well over 2.5 uS. Most people (I've been told) can make very good clear CS with distilled water that reads up to 3.0 uS, but I can't. Depends on conditions where you are. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: using your TDS what measurements are you looking forTIA...deb sol wrote: Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silv! er List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 4/4/2006 -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
You did help me with this a couple years or more ago. There is something in the water here that does not distill out easily. .4uS double distilled water makes perfect CS, .4uS single distilled does not, except when the river that is the source of the town water is very high. You helped me go through and take readings during making several batches of CS, and consider several other possibilities. The only thing that came up is it had to be the water, and it was. You also tested some DW for me, too. So basically I now do what I need to do, and everything is perfectly consistent and repeatable. I can make fine CS with higher uS water if the ppm is kept very low, but I prefer my CS to be 10-15 ppm as that is what works best for me. I have experimented with low ppm CS several times, and just don't get the same results as other people report from it. sol Robert Berger wrote: Sol, if you can't marke good EIS with as PWT reading of 3.0 then your process is in trouble. Off line please describe you setup and operating conditions. maybe I can help you. Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
thanks Sol did you get a pretty good deal with your PWT when you bought itdeb sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I actually use a PWT. A TDS is not sensitive enough for my needs. I need to have distilled water of no more than .4 uS, which is lower than a TDS can read, so I was lucky to have chosen a PWT 3 years ago. Commercial distilled water of all brands that are available where I am read .6 uS to well over 2.5 uS. Most people (I've been told) can make very good clear CS with distilled water that reads up to 3.0 uS, but I can't. Depends on conditions where you are. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: using your TDS what measurements are you looking forTIA...deb sol wrote: Most distilled water is produced *locally* to where it is sold. Therefore, it is necessary to try various brands in your area, and see which one works best for you, or is the least conductive when tested with a meter (PWT, TDS, COM-100). Commercially sold distilled water can also be quite variable within a brand. sol . . wrote: I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silv! er List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 4/4/2006 -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
CShome-made CS - distilled water source
I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? I realize this can be also done at home but untill I decide on a suffcient water distiller, I'm going with something available in stores/online any suggestions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
For distilled The one at Kmart is pretty good last time I tested it I believe its American Fair brand Take care, V I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? I realize this can be also done at home but untill I decide on a suffcient water distiller, I'm going with something available in stores/online any suggestions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
I never checked V...is that steamed? Walgreens sells a steamed distilled one too..have a good one...deb V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: For distilled The one at Kmart is pretty good last time I tested it I believe its American Fair brand Take care, V I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ??? I realize this can be also done at home but untill I decide on a suffcient water distiller, I'm going with something available in stores/online any suggestions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --
Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source
Hi Deborah, Yes Steam distilled Take care, V I never checked V...is that steamed? Walgreens sells a steamed distilled one too..have a good one...deb V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: For distilled The one at Kmart is pretty good last time I tested it I believe its American Fair brand -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
