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Alacer now sweetens it ElectroMix with Stevia instead of fructose so you might want to look into that as well. PT - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts [garrick] The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows the CS to go straight through stomach without the silver reacting and turning into less bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say swish CS in your mouth for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and though mouth tissues. This way it enters body intact. They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few here want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade minus the fructose This is the theory and I hope I got it right Thanks for the explanation, Garrick. There are two electrolyte formulas without any sugars that I like a lot. One is the Fulvic Acid formula from Vital Earth. The other is Sea Minerals. You can Google them. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not expensive. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri May 28 22:32:34 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate, dolomite, and citric acid? Thanks, Dan On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: I recommended extra citric acid to try and help the dolomite convert to magnesium and calcium citrates because of their high bioavailability. I have a preference for the citrate versions. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri May 28 13:22:56 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Would it be better to take these minerals in the dolomite form as citrate, or in the chloride form as in magnesium chloride etc? Dan On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: To get the potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese and citric acid you only need to blend tripotassium citrate (aka potassium citrate), dolomite and citric acid. All readily available and inexpensive. To get the amounts below of each, you would need roughly: 300mg tripotassium citrate 200 mg of dolomite As a SWAG, 100mg of citric acid - Steve N -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix. It comes in individual packages that mix with a liter of water. No sugars. Ingredients in one serving, 4 per pkg.- Potassium 100 mg Calcium 25 mg Magnesium 30 mg Manganese 0.5 mg Chromium 5 mcg Stevia 2.5 mg citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna. My DH used to use a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I like ElectroMix better. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Interesting about seaweed. I get wild kelp and cook it, simmer it. Add a little ginger juice at the end. Then eat it with a bit of raw onion. Maybe that hots it up a bit to be more digestible. Plus traditionally the Japanese would consume seaweeds as part of a soup. The soup leaches the seaweed minerals into the broth making it more digestible as do the other soup ingredients Try seaweed cooked with nettles. Extremely nutrient dense garrick On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote: Hi, In general seaweed is thermodynamically very 'cold' and therefore hard to digest. One way to obtain the minerals is to make a seaweed 'soup' by letting it simmer in a kettle of water for awhile and the straining and pouring the 'soup' into a hot bath. Sit in the bath for at least 1/2 hour. It works very well. If you cannot do the body bath you can do a foot bath but do it more often. Don't throw out the seaweed it can be reboiled a couple of times. You can even blend it after the second boil and then strain it. PT - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not expensive. Have you settled on a mineral mix to take with colloidal silver to get it past the stomach intact? Will you be testing it? garrick On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote: I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not expensive. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri May 28 22:32:34 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate, dolomite, and citric acid? Thanks,
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Garrick, I mostly use silver citrate and I am satisfied with it. But I do not very much very often nowadays. - Steve N From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat May 29 12:14:56 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com http://www.herbalcom.com/ . Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not expensive. Have you settled on a mineral mix to take with colloidal silver to get it past the stomach intact? Will you be testing it? garrick On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not expensive. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri May 28 22:32:34 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate, dolomite, and citric acid? Thanks,
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Very interesting suggestion. I may try that. Dan On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:29 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, In general seaweed is thermodynamically very 'cold' and therefore hard to digest. One way to obtain the minerals is to make a seaweed 'soup' by letting it simmer in a kettle of water for awhile and the straining and pouring the 'soup' into a hot bath. Sit in the bath for at least 1/2 hour. It works very well. If you cannot do the body bath you can do a foot bath but do it more often. Don't throw out the seaweed it can be reboiled a couple of times. You can even blend it after the second boil and then strain it. PT - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Tom, Brooks Bradley has intimated that when supplementing minerals one could end up by unbalancing the minerals in the body and recommended taking large doses of kelp as a balanced supplement. Since I have found that taking kelp gives me adverse side effects by way of my intestinal system... I wanted to find a way to supplement the minerals in another way. My intent was to get a balanced amount of the various mineral elements. Dan On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM, poast po...@prodigy.net wrote: Hello Dan, While I don't know the exact ratio of the various electrolytes to use, I would suggest using a conductivity meter to adjust amounts. Pick up some mineral water and measure its conductivity. Then add your electrolytes and try to come close to matching the conductivity of the mineral water. My son was wanting to drink purified water. We started with distilled water and simply added some sea salt to it. I adjusted the amount to match the conductivity of our tap water. While sea salt has some electrolyte properties, I think you are looking for something a little stronger. However you should get the idea behind this. Tom - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Would it be better to take these minerals in the dolomite form as citrate, or in the chloride form as in magnesium chloride etc? Dan On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: To get the potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese and citric acid you only need to blend tripotassium citrate (aka potassium citrate), dolomite and citric acid. All readily available and inexpensive. To get the amounts below of each, you would need roughly: 300mg tripotassium citrate 200 mg of dolomite As a SWAG, 100mg of citric acid - Steve N -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix. It comes in individual packages that mix with a liter of water. No sugars. Ingredients in one serving, 4 per pkg.- Potassium 100 mg Calcium 25 mg Magnesium 30 mg Manganese 0.5 mg Chromium 5 mcg Stevia 2.5 mg citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna. My DH used to use a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I like ElectroMix better. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I recommended extra citric acid to try and help the dolomite convert to magnesium and calcium citrates because of their high bioavailability. I have a preference for the citrate versions. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri May 28 13:22:56 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Would it be better to take these minerals in the dolomite form as citrate, or in the chloride form as in magnesium chloride etc? Dan On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: To get the potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese and citric acid you only need to blend tripotassium citrate (aka potassium citrate), dolomite and citric acid. All readily available and inexpensive. To get the amounts below of each, you would need roughly: 300mg tripotassium citrate 200 mg of dolomite As a SWAG, 100mg of citric acid - Steve N -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix. It comes in individual packages that mix with a liter of water. No sugars. Ingredients in one serving, 4 per pkg.- Potassium 100 mg Calcium 25 mg Magnesium 30 mg Manganese 0.5 mg Chromium 5 mcg Stevia 2.5 mg citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna. My DH used to use a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I like ElectroMix better. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate, dolomite, and citric acid? Thanks, Dan On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: I recommended extra citric acid to try and help the dolomite convert to magnesium and calcium citrates because of their high bioavailability. I have a preference for the citrate versions. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri May 28 13:22:56 2010 Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Would it be better to take these minerals in the dolomite form as citrate, or in the chloride form as in magnesium chloride etc? Dan On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: To get the potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese and citric acid you only need to blend tripotassium citrate (aka potassium citrate), dolomite and citric acid. All readily available and inexpensive. To get the amounts below of each, you would need roughly: 300mg tripotassium citrate 200 mg of dolomite As a SWAG, 100mg of citric acid - Steve N -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix. It comes in individual packages that mix with a liter of water. No sugars. Ingredients in one serving, 4 per pkg.- Potassium 100 mg Calcium 25 mg Magnesium 30 mg Manganese 0.5 mg Chromium 5 mcg Stevia 2.5 mg citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna. My DH used to use a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I like ElectroMix better. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix. It comes in individual packages that mix with a liter of water. No sugars. Ingredients in one serving, 4 per pkg.- Potassium 100 mg Calcium 25 mg Magnesium 30 mg Manganese 0.5 mg Chromium 5 mcg Stevia 2.5 mg citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna. My DH used to use a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I like ElectroMix better. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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..and if you have a little extra Citric Acid in there...so what? ode At 08:26 PM 5/26/2010 -0500, you wrote: The molecular weight of silver is 107.9. The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1. Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7. So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid equal to 40 ppm in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes. - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.comstephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Marshalls most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream. Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
To get the potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese and citric acid you only need to blend tripotassium citrate (aka potassium citrate), dolomite and citric acid. All readily available and inexpensive. To get the amounts below of each, you would need roughly: 300mg tripotassium citrate 200 mg of dolomite As a SWAG, 100mg of citric acid - Steve N -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix. It comes in individual packages that mix with a liter of water. No sugars. Ingredients in one serving, 4 per pkg.- Potassium 100 mg Calcium 25 mg Magnesium 30 mg Manganese 0.5 mg Chromium 5 mcg Stevia 2.5 mg citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna. My DH used to use a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I like ElectroMix better. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I must have been tired last night. I should have said citric acid equal to 4 ppm and that would equate to 0.48mg of citric acid in 4 ounces of 10ppm EIS. - Steve N On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: The molecular weight of silver is 107.9. The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1. Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7. So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid equal to 40 ppm in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes. - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Marshall's most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream. Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Tom, Brooks Bradley has intimated that when supplementing minerals one could end up by unbalancing the minerals in the body and recommended taking large doses of kelp as a balanced supplement. Since I have found that taking kelp gives me adverse side effects by way of my intestinal system... I wanted to find a way to supplement the minerals in another way. My intent was to get a balanced amount of the various mineral elements. Dan On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM, poast po...@prodigy.net wrote: Hello Dan, While I don't know the exact ratio of the various electrolytes to use, I would suggest using a conductivity meter to adjust amounts. Pick up some mineral water and measure its conductivity. Then add your electrolytes and try to come close to matching the conductivity of the mineral water. My son was wanting to drink purified water. We started with distilled water and simply added some sea salt to it. I adjusted the amount to match the conductivity of our tap water. While sea salt has some electrolyte properties, I think you are looking for something a little stronger. However you should get the idea behind this. Tom - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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You don't, but it might make it taste better. If making your own, I would use stevia. Marshall Garrick wrote: Fine but for colloidal silver purposes who needs any sweetener? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: According to Gaterade they are phasing fructose out: * Does Gatorade include High Fructose Corn Syrup? Why or Why not? Currently, G2 does not contain HFCS, and the remaining products from The Gatorade Company will soon be following suit. We are changing the source of carbohydrate in Gatorade Thirst Quencher in 2010 to a sucrose-dextrose blend, which still serves the important functional purpose of providing energy to fuel athletes’ working muscles during activity. What’s important to note is that from a scientific efficacy standpoint nothing will change, and our research shows the taste with the sucrose-dextrose blend is actually preferred by many athletes. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
It should take very little, but if there is an equilibrium formed between the silver oxide and silver citrate, instead of it all converting, it is hard to say. I will try to do some testing and see what I can find, I don't think I will find it in any literature. Marshall Garrick wrote: It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Marshall’s most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html “Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.” Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
How about fresh lemon juice with water and some stevia? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark: Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!! In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh It's a nice product, but that's a drawback. And today, you post your question... Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be a very nice thing. Please share your results? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want will take everything you have.
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Lemon juice appears to be a good source of trace minerals, with amount of Potassium being the highest. In 100ml of lemon juice: Vitamins Vitamin A(IU) 19 Vitamin A (microg retinol activity equivalents) 1 Vitamin B6 (mg) 0.051 Vitamin B12 (microg) 0 Folic Acid (microg) 0 Niacin (mg) 0.1 Riboflavin (mg) 0.01 Thiamin (mg) 0.03 Vitamin C (mg) 46 Vitamin E (mg) 0.15 Vitamin K (mg) 0 Minerals Calcium (mg) 7 Copper (mg) 0.029 Iron (mg) 0.03 Manganese (mg) 0.008 Magnesium (mg) 6 Phosphorus (mg) 6 Potassium (mg) 124 Selenium (microg) 0.1 Sodium (mg) 1 Zinc (mg) 0.05 Other Protein (g) 0.38 Fibre (g) 0.4 Water (g) 90.73 Carbohydrate (g) 8.63 Energy (Kcal) 25 Lipids (fats) (g) 0 Cholesterol (mg) 0 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Sam L. one...@gmail.com wrote: How about fresh lemon juice with water and some stevia? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark: Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!! In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh It's a nice product, but that's a drawback. And today, you post your question... Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be a very nice thing. Please share your results? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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And it also contains citric acid if that indeed is important. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Lemon juice appears to be a good source of trace minerals, with amount of Potassium being the highest. In 100ml of lemon juice: Vitamins Vitamin A(IU) 19 Vitamin A (microg retinol activity equivalents) 1 Vitamin B6 (mg) 0.051 Vitamin B12 (microg) 0 Folic Acid (microg) 0 Niacin (mg) 0.1 Riboflavin (mg) 0.01 Thiamin (mg) 0.03 Vitamin C (mg) 46 Vitamin E (mg) 0.15 Vitamin K (mg) 0 Minerals Calcium (mg) 7 Copper (mg) 0.029 Iron (mg) 0.03 Manganese (mg) 0.008 Magnesium (mg) 6 Phosphorus (mg) 6 Potassium (mg) 124 Selenium (microg) 0.1 Sodium (mg) 1 Zinc (mg) 0.05 Other Protein (g) 0.38 Fibre (g) 0.4 Water (g) 90.73 Carbohydrate (g) 8.63 Energy (Kcal) 25 Lipids (fats) (g) 0 Cholesterol (mg) 0
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Hi, In general seaweed is thermodynamically very 'cold' and therefore hard to digest. One way to obtain the minerals is to make a seaweed 'soup' by letting it simmer in a kettle of water for awhile and the straining and pouring the 'soup' into a hot bath. Sit in the bath for at least 1/2 hour. It works very well. If you cannot do the body bath you can do a foot bath but do it more often. Don't throw out the seaweed it can be reboiled a couple of times. You can even blend it after the second boil and then strain it. PT - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Tom, Brooks Bradley has intimated that when supplementing minerals one could end up by unbalancing the minerals in the body and recommended taking large doses of kelp as a balanced supplement. Since I have found that taking kelp gives me adverse side effects by way of my intestinal system... I wanted to find a way to supplement the minerals in another way. My intent was to get a balanced amount of the various mineral elements. Dan On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM, poast po...@prodigy.net wrote: Hello Dan, While I don't know the exact ratio of the various electrolytes to use, I would suggest using a conductivity meter to adjust amounts. Pick up some mineral water and measure its conductivity. Then add your electrolytes and try to come close to matching the conductivity of the mineral water. My son was wanting to drink purified water. We started with distilled water and simply added some sea salt to it. I adjusted the amount to match the conductivity of our tap water. While sea salt has some electrolyte properties, I think you are looking for something a little stronger. However you should get the idea behind this. Tom - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark: Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!! In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh It's a nice product, but that's a drawback. And today, you post your question... Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be a very nice thing. Please share your results? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
According to Gaterade they are phasing fructose out: * Does Gatorade include High Fructose Corn Syrup? Why or Why not? Currently, G2 does not contain HFCS, and the remaining products from The Gatorade Company will soon be following suit. We are changing the source of carbohydrate in Gatorade Thirst Quencher in 2010 to a sucrose-dextrose blend, which still serves the important functional purpose of providing energy to fuel athletes’ working muscles during activity. What’s important to note is that from a scientific efficacy standpoint nothing will change, and our research shows the taste with the sucrose-dextrose blend is actually preferred by many athletes. Marshall Garrick wrote: Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark: Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!! In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh It's a nice product, but that's a drawback. And today, you post your question... Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be a very nice thing. Please share your results? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark: Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!! In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh It's a nice product, but that's a drawback. And today, you post your question... Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be a very nice thing. Please share your results? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Fine but for colloidal silver purposes who needs any sweetener? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: According to Gaterade they are phasing fructose out: * Does Gatorade include High Fructose Corn Syrup? Why or Why not? Currently, G2 does not contain HFCS, and the remaining products from The Gatorade Company will soon be following suit. We are changing the source of carbohydrate in Gatorade Thirst Quencher in 2010 to a sucrose-dextrose blend, which still serves the important functional purpose of providing energy to fuel athletes’ working muscles during activity. What’s important to note is that from a scientific efficacy standpoint nothing will change, and our research shows the taste with the sucrose-dextrose blend is actually preferred by many athletes. Marshall
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Hi Garrick, You mention that those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact I am very interested in this issue. Can you help me in finding out a way to corroborate that statement? I would appreciate it Frank From: Garrick Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? No answer to your question, Dan, but had to remark: Sometimes it seems their's an angel next to me stamping his feet and shouting in my ear, Take the hint, dammit!! In light of the post we had quoting an article from Mercola on fructose ill effects on weight and blood pressure, I looked at Emergen-C again to see what sweetener they use. Yup. Fructose. sigh It's a nice product, but that's a drawback. And today, you post your question... Having a recipe for a home-made, healthy Gatorade replacement would be a very nice thing. Please share your results? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Hi Others know much more and you can find stuff in archives via a search for Gatorade The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows the CS to go straight through stomach without the silver reacting and turning into less bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say swish CS in your mouth for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and though mouth tissues. This way it enters body intact. They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few here want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade minus the fructose This is the theory and I hope I got it right garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Garrick, You mention that those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact I am very interested in this issue. Can you help me in finding out a way to corroborate that statement? I would appreciate it Frank *From:* Garrick zzen...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:34 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose. Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars. garrick
RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
[garrick] The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows the CS to go straight through stomach without the silver reacting and turning into less bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say swish CS in your mouth for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and though mouth tissues. This way it enters body intact. They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few here want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade minus the fructose This is the theory and I hope I got it right Thanks for the explanation, Garrick. There are two electrolyte formulas without any sugars that I like a lot. One is the Fulvic Acid formula from Vital Earth. The other is Sea Minerals. You can Google them. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com
RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Marshall's most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream. Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html - Steve N From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts [garrick] The theory goes that consuming CS mixed with Gatorade allows the CS to go straight through stomach without the silver reacting and turning into less bio-available silver chloride. This is why some say swish CS in your mouth for 10 minutes and absorb it sub-lingually and though mouth tissues. This way it enters body intact. They say the minerals/electrolytes in Gatorade allow this trick. Few here want to guzzle Gatorade so the dilemma is how to duplicate Gatorade minus the fructose This is the theory and I hope I got it right Thanks for the explanation, Garrick. There are two electrolyte formulas without any sugars that I like a lot. One is the Fulvic Acid formula from Vital Earth. The other is Sea Minerals. You can Google them. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote: Marshall’s most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html “Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.” Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html -
RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
The molecular weight of silver is 107.9. The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1. Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7. So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid equal to 40 ppm in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes. - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Marshall's most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream. Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html -
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I meant to add that for 1 liter of water, 40 ppm is 40 mg. For 4 ounces of water that would be 4.8 mg. - Steve N From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts The molecular weight of silver is 107.9. The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1. Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7. So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid equal to 40 ppm in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes. - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick
Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Hello Dan, While I don't know the exact ratio of the various electrolytes to use, I would suggest using a conductivity meter to adjust amounts. Pick up some mineral water and measure its conductivity. Then add your electrolytes and try to come close to matching the conductivity of the mineral water. My son was wanting to drink purified water. We started with distilled water and simply added some sea salt to it. I adjusted the amount to match the conductivity of our tap water. While sea salt has some electrolyte properties, I think you are looking for something a little stronger. However you should get the idea behind this. Tom - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts If one was to mix up a balanced set of electrolytes to add to distilled water for drinking and cooking uses containing, perhaps, bicarbonate of soda, magnesium chloride, and potassium chloride, what ratios would one use, and how much total, say, per gallon? Any thoughts? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks much! So a dot of citric acid would do it. One pin head's worth. Do you think all the silver ions would become silver citrate? Would they all find the citric acid and mate with it. I think the Gatorade formula was more Gatorade than colloidal silver. Mix and drink. Here Marshall says it is 2 to 1 Gatorade to CS http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator This is much more citric acid than what you say...Citric acid overkill maybe garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote: The molecular weight of silver is 107.9. The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1. Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7. So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid equal to 40 ppm in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes. - Steve N *From:* Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Marshall’s most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html “Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream.” Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html - -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
RE: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts
Extra citric acid doesn't hurt. In fact it is necessary if you are going to make high ppm silver citrate. - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts Thanks much! So a dot of citric acid would do it. One pin head's worth. Do you think all the silver ions would become silver citrate? Would they all find the citric acid and mate with it. I think the Gatorade formula was more Gatorade than colloidal silver. Mix and drink. Here Marshall says it is 2 to 1 Gatorade to CS This is much more citric acid than what you say...Citric acid overkill maybe garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: The molecular weight of silver is 107.9. The molecular weight of citric acid is 192.1. Silver citrate is basically one molecule of citric acid bonded to three silver ions and has a molecular weight of 512.7. So, if you have 10 ppm ionic silver you would need an amount of citric acid equal to 40 ppm in the same volume of solution. In other words, an amount smaller than you can measure for all practical purposes. - Steve N From: Garrick [mailto:zzen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectrolyte ratios and amounts It would be great if Marshall or anyone could give us a calculationHow much citric acid to add to say 4oz of 10uS colloidal silver. Obviously citric acid is very common. I have some in my refrigerator. Citric acid is cheap. I got mine on ebay. One test would be when you are sick with a cold or flu. Try the citric/CS and see what it does garrick On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: Marshall's most current theory: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129323.html Doing some further analysis of the ingredients in gatorade I have discovered another mechanism, one which is likely the primary one for this increased absorption. I just became aware that the citrate ion ( gateraid contains citric acid ) will replace the chloride ion in metallic salts. This means that when you mix CS with gaterade the silver ions do not combine with the chloride ions, but the citrate ions in the citric acid. Thus when you drink it, no low solubility silver chloride ions are formed, and they do not form in the stomach either . The silver citrate then is free to quickly move into the blood stream. Also: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg129472.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
