Re: CSAny success using CS with CFS/mycoplasma?
I am convinced that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is caused by the sme mycoplasma that causes MS, lupus, crones, etc. In this case, take 16 oz. of 10ppm CS with 8 drops 3% H2o2 added. Let is stand abut 15 minutes, then add 2-3 oz. of Gatorade or juice just to take away the bitter taste of the H2o2. Drink a little bit all day long. You may feel worse becase of die off before you feel better, but the CS will be killing the mycoplasma, and you will get better. It will probably be slow subtle, but have patience, it will work. Nancy - Original Message - From: fredsus1 freds...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: CSAny success using CS with CFS/mycoplasma? Since I just ordered my generator (thanks silverpuppy!) I am venturing into the world of making CS for the first time. I have CFS/EBV and Lord knows what else. I also want my hubby to take it since he was exposed to chem-trails a few years back and we do not want to get sick this year with viruses going around. Am I to understand CS is somewhat effective against viruses and does ANYBODY have any success using it for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? I am really tired of only getting a modicum of success. What dosages? TIA Susie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
CS does not make it for chronic UTI. It gets too diluted. d-mannose will work great for UTI's. Nancy - Original Message - From: j rigby jrig...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:41 AM Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results At 02:11 AM 11/09/04, Richard wrote: My wife of 57 years had a chronic UTI that reoccurred each month. She had been taking CS, but usually ended up going to Dr. and getting expensive antibiotics with uncomfortable side effects. Upon hearing of Brooks Bradley's Gatorade (the real stuff) 2 parts with 1 part 10ppm CS Why on earth would one take CS with lollywater? Gatorade is a softdrink is it not? What would be the point? Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
There is a huge difference in using salt when you brew your CS or adding something that contains salt to already brewed CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:56 PM Subject: Re: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results But, but.gatorade has salt...so one is in effect adding salt to CS. Though perhaps adding salt after the CS is made is different than adding salt to DW before making CS? sol nancymike wrote: The electrolytes in the Gatorade will help enhance the CS. There were some comparisons made awhile back, check the archives. Never mix CS with citrus, that would include orange juice or concentrate.and never add salt to CS. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS4 cc?
Richard said: The CS is already made and at the end of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3% Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS4 cc?
OTOH, remember we're talking about Richard's simple mixture of CS, peroxide and gatorade... I imagine that an almost full teaspoon is close enough to 4 ml for this application. Dontcha think? Keeps things simple. Mike D. You can purchase an empty syringe to use for measuring CCs at most feed stores, farm supplies and some hardware stores that carry pet supplies. I use an insulin syringe to measure 1 cc or less, it is divided into tenths of a cc. Mostly use this for measuring liquid wormers for the dogs. I also find a 10cc syringe handy, or a 3cc syringe, for measuring. Garnet On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 06:06, TC wrote: Richard said: The CS is already made and at the end of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3% Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS4 cc?
One ounce = 30cc One tablespoon = 15cc One teaspoon = 5 cc On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 06:06, TC wrote: Richard said: The CS is already made and at the end of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3% Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHydrogen Peroxide
Hello all: In the October-2004 issue of Readers Digest there is an article on First Aid You Should Never Use. Included is the use of Hydrogen Peroxide. Dermatologist Robert Kirsner, a spokesperson for the American Academy of Dermatology mentions Hydrogen Peroxide, along with other medications can be toxic to skin cells, impeding healing and killing healthy cells. Does anyone have have information on mixing CS and H2O2 as being safe to use either internally or externally ? Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS4 cc?
You can purchase an empty syringe to use for measuring CCs at most feed stores, farm supplies and some hardware stores that carry pet supplies. I use an insulin syringe to measure 1 cc or less, it is divided into tenths of a cc. Mostly use this for measuring liquid wormers for the dogs. I also find a 10cc syringe handy, or a 3cc syringe, for measuring. Garnet On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 06:06, TC wrote: Richard said: The CS is already made and at the end of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3% Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CS4 cc?
4cc = 0.1352561 oz. 4cc = 4ml better to go get a syringe from a pharmacy or a vet supply like Garnet said. TC wrote: Richard said: The CS is already made and at the end of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3% Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS4 cc?
A great conversion program called Convert can be downloaded at: http://www.joshmadison.com/software/ Dan From: TC wrote: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 04:11:33 Richard said: The CS is already made and at the end of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3% Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
Hi Sally, small world. When I first began growing and using the kombucha mushrooms people said not to mix CS with kombucha as the CS will kill it. Which it does. Then you read books on kombucha -like Günther Franks and they say to add alcohol to the pressed extract of the kombucha mushrooms ! And claim that it still has all the medicinal benefits ! Most of the commercial vendors of kombucha extract add alcohol to their products and a great many people claim health benefits. My preference is to keep the kombucha a live food but if one wanted the benefits that alcohol provide (stopping the fermentation and no unsightly mess in the bottle) than one should add CS instead of alcohol. One would then gain the benefits of both. I thought about selling my kombucha extract with CS. BUT the FDA has already cited my site in regards to CS where I stated that CS may be applied topically. The FDA insisted that when one offers CS as a mineral supplement it MUST BE taken internally. So I was obliged to comply and changed wordings and suggestions. I used to tell people to use CS topically and to follow up with a laser pointing pen (red LED) for disorders on the skin and a lot of people reported really great success on tough cases. BTW, kombucha (well aged) works very well on the skin as well and another good along with CS. Presently I still have the links on my site to join this list, but the FDA also stated that where I sell products (FDA specific stated CS and Ginseng in my case) and even though I do not make any medicinal claims yet have links to other sites that do, then the FDA considers that link as part of my label...and therefore I was making the medical claim. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Ed, I just realized I've bought Kombu mushrooms from you. I live in SJ. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Richard, how much Gatorade-CS Blend was your wife taking (twice a day) and for long before she noticed any improvements ? And if you and your wife don't mind please include age and weight. Ed kasper, LAc Santa Cruz, CA www.Happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Hi Susie, My wife of 57 years had a chronic UTI that reoccurred each month. She had been taking CS, but usually ended up going to Dr. and getting expensive antibiotics with uncomfortable side effects. Upon hearing of Brooks Bradley's Gatorade (the real stuff) 2 parts with 1 part 10ppm CS, twice a day, she has had NO recurrence--Praise God! This was almo! st a year ago--I recommend this to everyone taking CS. Purchasing Gatorade by the gallon on sale makes it very economical and even though Audrey is on a salt-free diet, this gives her NO problem. Check my Site let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.271 / Virus Database: 264.9.6 - Release Date: 9/24/2004
RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
Hi Ed, Nice to hear from you! Sorry about the FDA, what can I say, they are legalized Gestapo in many cases. They are trying to do the same with the Ayurvedic herbs, going after them with a vengance. Why??? Because they WORK, for one. The medical establishment resists any threat unless they can gain control over it somehow. This is scarey, it behooves us to be very vigilant. :o) Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi Sally, small world. When I first began growing and using the kombucha mushrooms people said not to mix CS with kombucha as the CS will kill it. Which it does. Then you read books on kombucha -like Günther Franks and they say to add alcohol to the pressed extract of the kombucha mushrooms ! And claim that it still has all the medicinal benefits ! Most of the commercial vendors of kombucha extract add alcohol to their products and a great many people claim health benefits. My preference is to keep the kombucha a live food but if one wanted the benefits that alcohol provide (stopping the fermentation and no unsightly mess in the bottle) than one should add CS instead of alcohol. One would then gain the benefits of both. I thought about selling my kombucha extract with CS. BUT the FDA has already cited my site in regards to CS where I stated that CS may be applied topically. The FDA insisted that when one offers CS as a mineral supplement it MUST BE taken internally. So I was obliged to comply and changed wordings and suggestions. I used to tell people to use CS topically and to follow up with a laser pointing pen (red LED) for disorders on the skin and a lot of people reported really great success on tough cases. BTW, kombucha (well aged) works very well on the skin as well and another good along with CS. Presently I still have the links on my site to join this list, but the FDA also stated that where I sell products (FDA specific stated CS and Ginseng in my case) and even though I do not make any medicinal claims yet have links to other sites that do, then the FDA considers that link as part of my label...and therefore I was making the medical claim. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Ed, I just realized I've bought Kombu mushrooms from you. I live in SJ. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Richard, how much Gatorade-CS Blend was your wife taking (twice a day) and for long before she noticed any improvements ? And if you and your wife don't mind please include age and weight. Ed kasper, LAc Santa Cruz, CA www.Happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Hi Susie, My wife of 57 years had a chronic UTI that reoccurred each month. She had been taking CS, but usually ended up going to Dr. and getting expensive antibiotics with uncomfortable side effects. Upon hearing of Brooks Bradley's Gatorade (the real stuff) 2 parts with 1 part 10ppm CS, twice a day, she has had NO recurrence--Praise God! This was almo! st a year ago--I recommend this to everyone taking CS. Purchasing Gatorade by the gallon on sale makes it very economical and even though Audrey is on a salt-free diet, this gives her NO problem. Check my Site let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com - Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
Re: CSCats Sensitive to Essentail Oils
From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net Although I am very open to hear any verifiable information Sometimes when an animal is sick, one uses what is at hand. Also a backdrop of testimonies of others form a web of successful solutions. There will always be nay-sayers to everything. Look at the uphill awareness around CS. that EOs are not liver toxic for cats, just because some have survived does not mean they are safe for all cats, or even the one that survives. Absolutely true! I heard about Tee Tree a long time ago, being too strong for cats, and that they tend to immediately lick it off. I have actually had one cat's neck wound get larger and slough skin, taking much longer to heal when I used Tee Tree in a lapse of brain function moment -- I was so happy to catch her long enough to medicate her, that I did not stop and think, just what was closest. Tea Tree - which does not clearly identify the type of oil - IS NOT ALL Essential Oils. Personally I would never use any Tea Tree (Melaleuca Alternifolia, Melaleuca Quinquenervia, or Melaleuca Ericifolia) on a cat. ... When a title is misleading, how much trust should one put in the content in the following article? Right now on cat wounds or allergic skin stuff I use 20% DMSO and CS or just 50% DMSO. I have one semi-wild cat that gets bare weepy spots each spring and fall on her feet, belly, and neck. One application of 50% DMSO clears them up enough that they heal over, two would be better. Use what works! This sounds great for that 'timid flighty cat'. Curious about cats? I found that as I came forward more, one cat became less reserved, less timid. Are they a mirror for aspects about ourselves? hmm.. Sometimes it is hard for us to believe sensitivities that vary so widely from what we know in other species or ourselves. Having been very chemically sensitive myself at one time, including all EOs, I can appreciate that most cats may not do well with them -- yet some may or may seem to -- liver function and challenges vary even in the sensitive individual. Logical thinking - could it be related to consciousness and frequency? Dr. David Hawkins, MD, PhD, orthomolecular medicine specialist indicates that when a person has moved their consciousness beyond 200 MHz that their brain chemistry changes thus their ability to understand concepts at yet another level. So, this is a perpetually moving scale for us and animals. Some cats are smarter, more inquisitive than others. Folks too. See following chart - FEAR is an effective control tool to have people comply (-200 MHz). Dilute EOs may be tolerated on a short term or one time basis, but you have to ask yourself what are you compromising for the liver to handle even that much? We don't know. When a cat is seriously injured seizing one uses what is at hand. In my case, I have a healthy cat 6 years later instead of a dead cat. This does not imply it is the right way for all people. Like chemo for folks, it got him over a rough situation. Could it shorten his life? I don't know. What does chemo do to longevity? However, if I had not done oils, my 'hug bug' cat would not have been here for the past 6 years. According to the Total Load Theory it is not the single exposure that does the damage, it is the total accumulation of all exposures and the toll they take, that then allows that one straw to break the camel's back. Could be that cats are more sensitive these days due to genetics, lots of in bred cats out there, or city living. Even old cultures often did cleanses (sometimes enforced by nature not producing food so early in the season) for a few weeks or a month in the spring each year - curiously at the same time the gall bladder and liver optimise cleansing on a yearly cycle. And they live lots longer than us! When there are safe-er alternatives why not use what we know is not harmful, isn't that the whole point of doing alt med in the first place? Personally, I never consider I employ alternative medicine. I utilize COMPLIMENTARY protocols. It's a mental perspective. Mentally it's smoother when one removes 'them/us', 'warring - 'right/wrong' duality perspectives. Complimentary appreciates the attributes of each protocol at the level they address. Some protocols speak to the physical, emotional, mental and or spiritual levels as well as aspects identified in quantum physics. I love EOs now that I am well enough that I do not react to all of them, but I am still careful and some of them still bother me. I consider the impact of any strong substance as a possible contributor to total load and keep tabs on my level of toxicity, as far as I can perceive it, and do what I can pro-actively to keep that margin of safety in case there is an unavoidable large expsoure. I want my toxin level as low as possible. When I teach about oils I suggest people first select oils that they like - that appear favourable to them. Alternate between
Re: CScats and essential oils (and dogs, too)
There are a number of schools of thought regarding essential oils. GERMAN protocols suggest inhalation is the preferred method. The ENGLISH protocols always use an oil or lotion to dilute essential oils. Just as the FRENCH have different belief systems and experience with sex, food, cars, and fashion, they hold different views about the use of oils. The CHINESE and EAST INDIAN systems are different again because they include a wider perspective of the influencing aspects of humans, animals etc. The source noted subscribes to the English school. I've managed stores selling ENGLISH protocols which is the best protocol with mainstream public because of general ignorance, lack of education, limited chemistry knowledge and especially LEGAL LIABILITES. Professionally I utilise French protocols with certified internationally recognised standards (AFNOR - Association French Normalization Organization Regulation) or ISO certification. This standard is more stringent and differentiates true therapeutic-grade essential oils from similar Grade A essential oils with inferior chemistry. The AFNOR standard was written by a team headed up by the government - certified botanical chemist, Herve Casabianca, Ph.D., while working with several analytical laboratories throughout France. Thus direct neat application (subject to chemical content), ingestion, retention enemas, inhalation, and diffusion and changing lives and health. ISO-9002 certified oils are an adjunct to CS. They are complimentary. It often depends where one's consciousness resonates. (Dr. D. Hawkins, MD, PhD, book 'Power vs Force' - see e-mail to Garnet). Using Dr. Hawkins protocols of evaluation, I consider there is more FEAR aspects on English protocols, less on the French, and a wider scope with Eastern approaches to understanding impacts on meridians, body types and extended energy systems not yet fully understood by science or allopathic protocols for more reasons than simply benefits. This is beyond science as we know it. Personally, after 14 years of use, I use few oils now. I love them all and call upon them only for specific situations when friends, family ail. Re cats: Imagine this. Your cat collapses flat onto his side and immediately seizes into a rigid hunched back Halloween shaped cat whose tail stiff with rapidly dilating eyes. The resident teenager screams and wails in panic that her cat is dying and we must get to the vet. She's right on the first point. But there's not time to get to the vet, even get to the car. Knowing that 'all is perfect in every minute', I put a drop of blended EO's to assist with digestive track on the rear paws, and offer inhalation of a Trauma release blend that is designed to prevent going into a coma, and then inhalation of a blend which has brings back loving and good memories. Eyes remain still for a minute that's as long as an hour... Got the picture? That was 6 years ago. Cat's pushing 14 yrs old and doing fine other than losing his resident 'stud' status to a 2 yr old Siamese who beat him up and took over the territory. Now he's out 2-4 hrs/day not 22 hrs/day. Diffusion. I used to diffuse frequently - 5 days out of 7 for 13+ years. The cats have 24 hr open outdoor access as a choice but usually park themselves and sleep in close proximity to me which is in the same room(s) as the diffusers. From the classic ENGLISH protocol perspective I guess one would consider my cats live in abusive environment. However, other than their kitten vaccinations (required for cats from the SPCA) they are like their owners who never catch a cold, get sick, require meds or go to vets. Follow the money... there might be some clues there. I could tell numerous other cat/oil stories. Suffice to say I'm respectful of cautions regarding phenols, (except when life threatening urgency - like chemo is sometimes helpful to folks - then they need to cleanse). Cats are different and see into other levels of awareness. Regardless of our human substantiated or unsubstantiated 'belief systems', I trust the response and behaviour of animals to know what is beneficial for them. A compliant cat who patiently allows me to drop oils on ouchies, ticks, or clear his aura is louder than what we have as evidence in science. Just my experience. I utilize other healing modalities too - only ones that produce tangible results - BodyTalk, Animal Talk and Plant Talk all of which are challenging for some people to get their head around. Oh well... Remember small birds will die from the fumes of cooking with a Teflon pan in close proximity to their roost whereas wee birds of a couple of ounces are fine with diffusion of AFNOR standard essential oils. What do the fumes of the Teflon pan do to your children? Yourself? Allergies? Could money influence why these toxic items continue to be sold? Quality counts. Scope counts. Education counts. First do no harm. (and follow the money). Christine PS. Cat also likes to smell
Re: CSAny success using CS with CFS/mycoplasma?
If one limits their perception of disease to a virus or bacteria or mycoplasma, (the Canadian and US governments spayed mycoplasmas on the citizens of Winnipeg in the 1950's in secret research to see what would happen) http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/8/mycoplasma.htm which is great justification for health challenges. And ongoing misery and illness. However, if one expands their horizon beyond 'them us' - nasty govt., virus, bacteria, duality perspectives, and considers they are responsible for all that happens to them to provide themselves with an opportunity to experience and grow then one draws a different conclusion effecting the resulting potential to heal. Each of us brings to us what we need to learn. Consider that words, feelings, emotions, spiritual limitations, mental perspectives comprise who we are as people. Each of us has a different experience growing up - like when we fell off a bike, or a horse, or the types of foods, loving or abusing parents, teachers, religious influences, etc., and the sequence of our 'knocks' is unique. We have electrical circuitry in our RNA blueprint that makes us whole. Sometimes the DNA has been damaged, and the cells are reproduced in their dysfunctional pattern. (Polio is a classic example of 96-97% CNS cellular damage that results in PPS years out from the event.) Other times the circuitry has not been turned on but needs to be developed. E.g.: an athletic training develops, healing emerges. We are comprised of electrical fields that hold emotional, mental and spiritual information. Unless these are reinstated, it's pretty hard to heal. The body knows how. Dr. J. Veltheim, while operating a teaching college for ND's, CD's, and Classical Chinese Medicine with 4 and 5 years licensed certifications in Brisbane Australia had a client base of over 300 people with Fibromyalgia. With permission, he used them for 'testing' his emerging protocols for BodyTalk as conventional methods had not provided success. As he tracked the electrical links that each individual required on different sessions no one pattern emerged. Each body required different links, with different pacing between sessions, and different healing rates. I believe that only 2 or 3 people did not get over their Fibromyalgia. Links for diagnoses that carry names like MS, Lupus, Chrones are unique and different... Curiously, Autism and CP often come up with connections to toxins vaccination heavy metals ... liver adrenals etc hummm Fibromyalgia is not simply a virus. Viruses can be 'tapped out' quickly. In 24-36 hrs the body can 'burn out' a virus with a wee healing fever. Quality of food, water, CS, DMSO, nutritional supplements, EO's etc., SUPPORT healing on a daily basis. Blaming anything is futile. Healing comes from within. The body knows the sequence of organs, endocrine, and body parts that need reinstatement of the electrical circuits. And it can produce a healing if people can get beyond the social conditioning that a 'virus' or another nasty yet unknown thing is responsible. Follow the money. A bacterial theory allows a drug to be developed and patented. And it employees thousands of people and produces good stock returns. Wonderful large expensive testing machines are developed for supporting this theory of bacterial load. Does 'running around in circles' mean anything? Didn't the 'ancients' talk about knowing all. People have written books about curing cancer from laughing - thoughts, emotions... Perhaps the mind interferes with the body? When did anyone stop and listen to their body and do what it wanted? Is it (the body) pissed off with being ignored? Until one pays attention - could pain is relative to conscious restrictions? Could the body want to show us how we have made a few errors in judgement and it makes one hurt until we stop doing what we believe is right? Wake up. It it hurts, something's askew. Love (500 MHz*) does not hurt. We are all human and allowed to make mistakes. Sometimes we have to let go of our 'opinions'. Perhaps one can discover more than a virus theory if they listened within, rather than to media advertising... The virus theory is not getting people well - it's one choice that provides other benefits. Examine what gifts illness brings. I've seen clients change dynamics at home work - not the 'nasty spouse or boss who does not understand', but themselves, how they respond to family, work, entanglements. As their body reconnects they discover the 'illusions' they were entrapped in and make new decisions. Concurrently, 'illness' decreases as circuits are reconnected and rebuilt by the body in it's seemingly 'illogical but effective' sequence. Who cares about protocols being beyond conventional anatomy perspectives or employment of supposedly unsubstantiated meridians, Chinese elements, vivaxis, etc? Those arguments are mental distractions/mental masturbation/mental circles/mental ego. Consider expanding
Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide
I think the amount of H202 one would add to EIS is small enough not to be a problem even if one believes H202 is a problem. I myself still believe straight 3% H202 is a perfectly good wound flush for immediate first aid, and I would also have no hesitation to use it on an infected wound where I wanted to debride the pus and infected cells off the wound. It does kill new cells, but I personally never have continued to use it on a non-infected healing wound, nor do I know anyone else who has. I think perhaps they don't like peroxide because it is cheap and effective? With my mother who got many infected wounds on her legs in her last couple years, she had this argument with the public health nurse and the doctor several times. However, the wound wash and the neosporin they always wanted to put on her wounds invariably let them become terribly infected..so I don't know what the medical deal is, maybe just drumming up business for abx prescriptions? Whatever, I was completely underwhelmed by their alternatives to peroxide. However they were very insistent that we not use it, to the point where both the Dr. and the nurse became very angry. Had I known about EIS those days, I'd have used it. So we just quit telling them what we were doing. God knows my mother would probably have lost a leg, if I had let them treat her their way only. I remember once the nurse washing a leg wound, and putting on neosporin, they next morning it was unbelievably worse and inflamed. They insisted I was wrong about the reaction to the neosporin. I would clean the wound my way, and put on a vit e ointment (from a clean new jar of ointment) and it would be better when the dressing was changed, but the nurse would still be horrified that I had taken off her dressing and re-done it, saying I was making things worse. FWIW, my mother is the one who wanted peroxide used, as she said it was what she always used and she never used to get infections from cuts and scratches. Medical people see what they want to see, I guess. Sort of like the rest of us, but then I know I saw what I sawand my mom reported less pain in the wounds when I took care of them, too. I ended up feeling less respect for doctors and nurses than I had ever had, and also believing one just has to try different things, and stick with what works, no matter what the professionals say. sol William Amos wrote: Hello all: In the October-2004 issue of Readers Digest there is an article on First Aid You Should Never Use. Included is the use of Hydrogen Peroxide. Dermatologist Robert Kirsner, a spokesperson for the American Academy of Dermatology mentions Hydrogen Peroxide, along with other medications can be toxic to skin cells, impeding healing and killing healthy cells. Does anyone have have information on mixing CS and H2O2 as being safe to use either internally or externally ? Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
I believe it is critically important to really hear and understand the implications what Ed has said about 'legalities', and the interpretation of 'claims'. Truthful speech is curtailed and limited by political powers/special interest groups. Seeking complimentary methodologies in CS, DMSO, Vitamin C, minerals and all other vitamins, etc, is in jeopardy when folks don't address the lies of the prevailing governing bodies. Curious how bandages made by larger corporations with pharma ties using CS can advertise whereas Ed is restricted and not allowed to state that CS may be applied topically. It's like a scientist influencing teachers who tell students that animals do not have emotions or and that injecting, slicing, testing, and butchering in a lab is not painful to animals. A child who has a pet (and perhaps not yet influenced by money) can see through that baloney. See http://www.nationaljusticeleague.com/ for a small insight into the manipulative history of the FDA. In Canada an MD was stripped of his licence because the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons determined in court that his first responsibility was to prescribe pharmaceuticals rather than suggest clean water or food to patients. NO patients complained. His professional college went after him and we know who pays (follow the money) the professional colleges for teaching physicians. Also http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/ - The Alliance of Nations - An Open Letter by Dr. Rath in the New York Times of June 30, 2004. Sometimes I think all these falsehoods are in perfect timing with emerging consciousness (over 200 MHz) and tools to drive us to quit looking outside of ourselves, but to look inwards, where all wisdom resides. Christine Carleton, C.B.P. http://www.bodytalksystem.com thebodytalkcli...@telus.net From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net ... the FDA has already cited my site in regards to CS where I stated that CS may be applied topically. The FDA insisted that when one offers CS as a mineral supplement it MUST BE taken internally. So I was obliged to comply and changed wordings and suggestions. I used to tell people to use CS topically and to follow up with a laser pointing pen (red LED) for disorders on the skin and a lot of people reported really great success on tough cases. BTW, kombucha (well aged) works very well on the skin as well and another good along with CS. Presently I still have the links on my site to join this list, but the FDA also stated that where I sell products (FDA specific stated CS and Ginseng in my case) and even though I do not make any medicinal claims yet have links to other sites that do, then the FDA considers that link as part of my label...and therefore I was making the medical claim. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com e...@happyherbalist.com
CSFW: CSHydrogen Peroxide
Sol, It's not personal. It's legal. In court the first responsibility of an MD is to prescribe pharmaceuticals rather than suggest clean water or food to patients. Know their 'legal lay of the land'. They are trapped. Many know, but think/feel they cannot forfeit a $100,000. education, risk loosing their mortgage or family society status to finding a different occupation. Dr. David Hawkins, MD, PhD says that choices of money and trappings no longer create success but INTEGRITY to whatever field - making mouse traps - whatever - is the new definition of success. The irony: A portfolio will not produce health but buy the best MD to prescribe expensive pharmaceuticals. Universal Humour at it's best? I agree with your conclusion. ...stick with what works, no matter what (allopathic and some science - my interjection) professionals say. Truth produces health. Christine -- From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com I think the amount of H202 one would add to EIS is small enough not to be a problem even if one believes H202 is a problem. I myself still believe straight 3% H202 is a perfectly good wound flush for immediate first aid, and I would also have no hesitation to use it on an infected wound where I wanted to debride the pus and infected cells off the wound. It does kill new cells, but I personally never have continued to use it on a non-infected healing wound, nor do I know anyone else who has. I think perhaps they don't like peroxide because it is cheap and effective? With my mother who got many infected wounds on her legs in her last couple years, she had this argument with the public health nurse and the doctor several times. However, the wound wash and the neosporin they always wanted to put on her wounds invariably let them become terribly infected..so I don't know what the medical deal is, maybe just drumming up business for abx prescriptions? Whatever, I was completely underwhelmed by their alternatives to peroxide. However they were very insistent that we not use it, to the point where both the Dr. and the nurse became very angry. Had I known about EIS those days, I'd have used it. So we just quit telling them what we were doing. God knows my mother would probably have lost a leg, if I had let them treat her their way only. I remember once the nurse washing a leg wound, and putting on neosporin, they next morning it was unbelievably worse and inflamed. They insisted I was wrong about the reaction to the neosporin. I would clean the wound my way, and put on a vit e ointment (from a clean new jar of ointment) and it would be better when the dressing was changed, but the nurse would still be horrified that I had taken off her dressing and re-done it, saying I was making things worse. FWIW, my mother is the one who wanted peroxide used, as she said it was what she always used and she never used to get infections from cuts andscratches. Medical people see what they want to see, I guess. Sort of like the rest of us, but then I know I saw what I sawand my mom reported less pain in the wounds when I took care of them, too. I ended up feeling less respect for doctors and nurses than I had ever had, and also believing one just has to try different things, and stick with what works, no matter what the professionals say. sol ~~ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScats and essential oils (and dogs, too)
My reply sent to the OT list. sol Christine Carleton wrote: There are a number of schools of thought regarding essential oils. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and Humidifiers?
Not if it generates steam using heat; it distilles the CS, producing relativly distilled water and leaving the silver in the unit. JOH -Original Message- From: fredsus1 [mailto:freds...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 3:37 PM To: silver Subject: CSCS and Humidifiers? Can I put CS water in a humidifier? I have long tried to think of some kind of anti-bacterial/mold agent to put in the water that would be ok to be disbursed into the air. If so, what concentration and if not, what else can I use? Susie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO and CS
Brooks Bradley says that 10% is all that is needed for transport. Garnet says that the DMSO has anti-viral qualities of its own and uses more. See her recent post. JOH -Original Message- From: fredsus1 [mailto:freds...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO and CS I posted that I am going to be using CS topically on my dog that has a skin infection. I will be using a system a groomer suggested which is to combine 2 oz of a super concentrated conditioner to 8-12 oz of water and let sit on the animal 1 hour. I am going to use straight CS for the water in the recipe. Do I need to use some DMSO also for the CS to be effective? I wonder how DMSO will affect the conditioners? The dog has SA (sebaceous adenitis) in which the immune system attacks and kills the oil glands, thus the conditioner soak to act as an artificial lubricant. I don't want the DMSO to mess with that, nor do I want it to irritate the skin. What is the least amount of DMSO I can add to the 12 oz CS to be effective? Thanks Susie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFDA takes action against colloidal silver
Hi all, Dennis wrote, re: regulation of silver, ...appropriate regulatory action. Do you mean like with Aspertame? JOH -Original Message-From: Dennis Gulenchin [mailto:dgulenc...@mb.sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFDA takes action against colloidal silver FDA has taken action against colloidal silver products, and is continuing to investigate the promotion and use of colloidal silver products in dairy and other animals. If necessary, FDA will take further appropriate regulatory action. About.com: http://asthma.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.fda.gov/ cvm/index/updates/silver.html http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/updates/silver.html Dennis. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and Humidifiers?
DO NOT. They die. Destroys the ecology of the tank and or the symbotic digestive bacteria of the fish. JOH -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and Humidifiers? Jean Baugh wrote: This brings up some questions. Has anyone ever used CS in their fish tank to keep algae away and their fish from contracting topical diseases? If I still used a humidifier, would use CS in the water without hesitation.- --- I believe I remember CS being fatal to fish in an aquarium. You could check the archives. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCs dangers..
They are a standard bio-lab supply item, having been bred to be without hair. JOH -Original Message- From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCs dangers.. Marshal wrote: If you are doing any naked mice studies, here is one that I would really like to see done... So, where does one get naked mice? Just kidding! Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Avaliable here in Santa Fe was a Ayurvedic herb mix that knocked out the severe allergy of Juniper pollen in a matter of minutes, with no perceptable side effects. The FDA gave him a hard time. Now, you must buy a minimum of $350 worth from him, and he is hard to find. JOH -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: ***Possible Spam*** RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Hi Ed, Nice to hear from you! Sorry about the FDA, what can I say, they are legalized Gestapo in many cases. They are trying to do the same with the Ayurvedic herbs, going after them with a vengance. Why??? Because they WORK, for one. The medical establishment resists any threat unless they can gain control over it somehow. This is scarey, it behooves us to be very vigilant. :o) Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi Sally, small world. When I first began growing and using the kombucha mushrooms people said not to mix CS with kombucha as the CS will kill it. Which it does. Then you read books on kombucha -like Günther Franks and they say to add alcohol to the pressed extract of the kombucha mushrooms ! And claim that it still has all the medicinal benefits ! Most of the commercial vendors of kombucha extract add alcohol to their products and a great many people claim health benefits. My preference is to keep the kombucha a live food but if one wanted the benefits that alcohol provide (stopping the fermentation and no unsightly mess in the bottle) than one should add CS instead of alcohol. One would then gain the benefits of both. I thought about selling my kombucha extract with CS. BUT the FDA has already cited my site in regards to CS where I stated that CS may be applied topically. The FDA insisted that when one offers CS as a mineral supplement it MUST BE taken internally. So I was obliged to comply and changed wordings and suggestions. I used to tell people to use CS topically and to follow up with a laser pointing pen (red LED) for disorders on the skin and a lot of people reported really great success on tough cases. BTW, kombucha (well aged) works very well on the skin as well and another good along with CS. Presently I still have the links on my site to join this list, but the FDA also stated that where I sell products (FDA specific stated CS and Ginseng in my case) and even though I do not make any medicinal claims yet have links to other sites that do, then the FDA considers that link as part of my label...and therefore I was making the medical claim. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist http://HappyHerbalist.com http://happyherbalist.com/ e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Ed, I just realized I've bought Kombu mushrooms from you. I live in SJ. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Richard, how much Gatorade-CS Blend was your wife taking (twice a day) and for long before she noticed any improvements ? And if you and your wife don't mind please include age and weight. Ed kasper, LAc Santa Cruz, CA www.Happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results Hi Susie, My wife of 57 years had a chronic UTI that reoccurred each month. She had been taking CS, but usually ended up going to Dr. and getting expensive antibiotics with uncomfortable side effects. Upon hearing of Brooks Bradley's Gatorade (the real stuff) 2 parts with 1 part 10ppm CS, twice a day, she has had NO recurrence--Praise God! This was almo! ! st a year ago--I recommend this to everyone taking CS. Purchasing Gatorade by the gallon on sale makes it very economical and even though Audrey is on a salt-free diet, this gives her NO problem. Check my Site let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com _ Do you Yahoo!? New http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/10/*http://promotions.yahoo.com /new_mail/static/efficiency.html and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
RE: CSHydrogen Peroxide
Readers Digest? I think it depends on the concentration. If silver is not available, I would not hesitate to use 3.5% JOH -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHydrogen Peroxide Hello all: In the October-2004 issue of Readers Digest there is an article on First Aid You Should Never Use. Included is the use of Hydrogen Peroxide. Dermatologist Robert Kirsner, a spokesperson for the American Academy of Dermatology mentions Hydrogen Peroxide, along with other medications can be toxic to skin cells, impeding healing and killing healthy cells. Does anyone have have information on mixing CS and H2O2 as being safe to use either internally or externally ? Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
Hi Him, You are beginning to think in ageement with my research. Population management is their goal; not to kill us all. We are useful to them, but only to an extent. There are resins that will adsorb F; I do not know if they kill the water. A still is still the best way. JOH -Original Message- From: John Rigby [mailto:jrig...@fablor.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results At 02:08 AM 15/09/04, Jim wrote: Pediolite, unless there has been a recent change, contains Aspartame. Good Grief! They get at us from all directions, don't they? I'm beginning to think They are Aliens trying to get rid of us all They are going to sedate us in my home state next year with Fluoride. They say it's especially good for kids... As far as I know there is no way to filter out Fluoride without killing the water Himagain. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSpeirced ears
Elle, All teachers are students of their students, and all students are teachers of their teachers. JOH -Original Message- From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSpeirced ears Thanks so much Richard, I am learning, learning. I think (after a posting I saw the other day on the list) that YOU are the teachers and US (newbies) are the pupils.
RE: CScs and shingles
Hello N., My experience is that it does get into the ganglia; a friend who had severe recurrent type 2 has not had an outbreak after several months of CS. He then stopped taking the CS, and for several years has not had an outbreak. Not a scientific study, but some sort of evidence. He now takes CS again routinely. JOH -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 7:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CScs and shingles Shingles(herpes zooster) lie dormant in the nerve ganglia and masnifest them selves as shingles when a body is under stress, ÇS will help the out break,but will probably not get to the nerve ganglia where they replicate -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSinus
Someone posted that Xylotol---a sugar derived from the Beech tree---was very effective. It makes the CS/DMSO taste swee too. I bought some but have yet to mix a batch, as my chronic sinus has been acceptible for a while. A rock-hard lymph node is cause for concern, particularly if it remains so for a week or more. Were it I, I would take a lot of CS with a bit of DMSO orally; then see a Medical Practicioner if it had not returned to normal JOH -Original Message- From: Nessie [mailto:nes...@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSinus Any idea how to unblock stubborn sinus on one side only.. Also lymp node on that side is rock hard.?? Been using c/s and DMSO flushes.. !0% DMSO..?? thanks. Grant.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScats and essential oils (and dogs, too)
Sol, E-mail is up, web is down... talk to you later tonight maybe. CC From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com My reply sent to the OT list. sol Christine Carleton wrote: There are a number of schools of thought regarding essential oils. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results
Thanks for posting the Dr. Rath article. I had some info from his site sometime ago, but had lost it and wanted to save it. The amount of $$$ driving the world wide push against all alternative health measures (complementary if you prefer!) is mind-boggling. Amazing that the sicker we are the more money they make. The whole medical system is tainted. sol Christine Carleton wrote: Also http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/ - The Alliance of Nations - An Open Letter by Dr. Rath in the New York Times of June 30, 2004. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpeirced ears
EVERYONE before us is a teacher - an infant, an animal, a child, an elder... Christine. From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net Elle, All teachers are students of their students, and all students are teachers of their teachers. JOH -Original Message- From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSpeirced ears Thanks so much Richard, I am learning, learning. I think (after a posting I saw the other day on the list) that YOU are the teachers and US (newbies) are the pupils.
Re: CSFW: CSHydrogen Peroxide
You are probably right about the legal issue. When did the responsibility change from helping a patient, to prescribing pharmaceuticals? Is this relatively recent, or did I just spend the majority of my life ignorant of the true purpose of MDs? It all seems to be escalating so fast.. sol Christine Carleton wrote: Sol, It's not personal. It's legal. In court the first responsibility of an MD is to prescribe pharmaceuticals rather than suggest clean water or food to patients. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and Humidifiers?
Susie, A study was sponsored by the Institute of General Pathology and Human Ecology, and the Botanical Institute, Russian Academy of Sciences may provide some answers. http://www.nioch.nsc.ru/icnpas98/pdf/posters1/89.pdf SOURCE: Novosibirsk Institute of Organic Chemistry. If you want to know the respective ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity) scores contact me off line. Christine -Original Message- From: fredsus1 [mailto:freds...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 3:37 PM To: silver Subject: CSCS and Humidifiers? Can I put CS water in a humidifier? I have long tried to think of some kind of anti-bacterial/mold agent to put in the water that would be ok to be disbursed into the air. If so, what concentration and if not, what else can I use? Susie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: CSHydrogen Peroxide
Don't know... I was under their magical media 'Glamours' for years too. Gee, I even got paralytic polio from these folks continued to do what they said for years. Some of us are 'THICK' for a while until we start to grow. Suspect it got going when the 'electrical' appliances like Nicola Tesla discovered and Edward Casey suggested use of in the '30's while Rockerfeller's gentleman politician prohibited use of with the Ivy League Schools lest Rockerfeller and co. cut off funding and scholarships for students and research. If memory serves me over a hundred naturopathic schools were closed then and the world of chemistry open opportunity? Christine From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com You are probably right about the legal issue. When did the responsibility change from helping a patient, to prescribing pharmaceuticals? Is this relatively recent, or did I just spend the majority of my life ignorant of the true purpose of MDs? It all seems to be escalating so fast.. sol Christine Carleton wrote: Sol, It's not personal. It's legal. In court the first responsibility of an MD is to prescribe pharmaceuticals rather than suggest clean water or food to patients. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs/legal issue and hippocratic oath
Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath: THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH I swear by Apollo the physician, by Æsculapius, Hygeia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgement, the following Oath. To consider dear to me as my parents him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and if necessary to share my goods with him; to look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art if they so desire without fee or written promise; to impart to my sons and the sons of the master who taught me and the disciples who have enrolled themselves and have agreed to the rules of the profession, but to these alone the precepts and the instruction. I will prescribe regimen for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgement and never do harm to anyone. To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which may cause his death. Nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion. But I will preserve the purity of my life and my art. I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art. In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves. All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal. If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot. or is that just a fairy tale now. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com CSHydrogen Peroxide You are probably right about the legal issue. When did the responsibility change from helping a patient, to prescribing pharmaceuticals? Is this relatively recent, or did I just spend the majority of my life ignorant of the true purpose of MDs? It all seems to be escalating so fast.. sol Christine Carleton wrote: Sol, It's not personal. It's legal. In court the first responsibility of an MD is to prescribe pharmaceuticals rather than suggest clean water or food to patients. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: CSHydrogen Peroxide
Further irony: Professional responsibilities and personal choices may be different. It's LEGAL LIABILITY regarding licensing in professions and institutions. I would guess-a-mate that about 60-65% of my EO clients are from occupations like family services, hospital professionals of one sort or another or work within medical clinics. They're worried about bugs and getting sick. Some have been downsized, had anxiety attacks, are on leave, or have had to retire before having time to research other perspectives beyond their training. It's tough. It's hard on the soul. It's hard on one's health 'n happiness. It's really hard on nurses and counsellors who don't have as flush a cash flow. INTERGITY HELPS HEALING. Vitamins, minerals, CS, DMSO, fresh air, clean water and sites like www.mercola.com are helping wake more people up. Also transparent bias like Ed is experiencing with his web site. CC From: Christine Carleton essential-liv...@telus.net The irony: A portfolio will not produce health but buy the best MD to prescribe expensive pharmaceuticals. Universal Humour at it's best? Truth produces health. Christine From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com ... However, the wound wash and the neosporin they always wanted to put on her wounds invariably let them become terribly infected..so I don't know what the medical deal is, maybe just drumming up business for abx prescriptions? Whatever, I was completely underwhelmed by their alternatives to peroxide. However they were very insistent that we not use it, to the point where both the Dr. and the nurse became very angry. Had I known about EIS those days, I'd have used it. So we just quit telling them what we were doing. God knows my mother would probably have lost a leg, if I had let them treat her their way only. ... I would clean the wound my way, and put on a vit e ointment (from a clean new jar of ointment) and it would be better when the dressing was changed, ... ... Medical people see what they want to see, I guess. Sort of like the rest of us, but then I know I saw what I sawand my mom reported less pain in the wounds when I took care of them, too. ...sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOl Bob revealed!
Hi folks, Those of you - like me - are still really newbies on the CS list should be fascinated by this secret information uncovered by your dauntless investigator today: All is revealed here! The naked Ol Bob: http://www.hvacsilver.com/olebob.htm well naked truth anyway... Then have a look at his main home page: http://www.hvacsilver.com/indexag.htm Cheers, Him again impressed by the quality of subscribers out here on this list.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs/legal issue and hippocratic oath
They changed it - subtly at first - big time recently. Check out what they use at your local medical school. I think the current one that is used at Harvard was posted once. Like night and day from what you quoted. Illusions - it's not all it seems to be. Here's another biggie... Mad Cow, Testing, and PR. DRINK your CS consistently. Gotta run... clients now... Christine ~~~ From: Nutrition and Healing - Amanda Ross healtht...@healthiernews.com Health e-Tips Thursday September 23, 2004 ** We hope you enjoy this free e-letter from Dr. Jonathan V. Wright's Nutrition and Healing. * Dear Reader, I can't help but wonder what the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the cattle industry is so afraid of right now. When a small producer of high-quality beef, Creekstone Farms Premium Beef, decided that they'd like to privately test all of the cattle they slaughter for mad cow disease at their own expense, I would think the Feds would give them a gold star for being so responsible and taking this kind of industry leadership. Instead, they're acting much more like a teen who has been out past curfew -- and up to no good. If you can believe it, the USDA does not allow private testing for mad cow disease by producers, insisting that the government testing system is perfectly adequate. Even though they have just introduced a new plan that will test 10 times more animals than before, they will still test less than 1 percent of the 37 million cattle slaughtered each year. I don't find this very comforting. Especially not when you consider that some other countries, like Japan, require 100 percent testing of beef products sold in their country. Cattle producers, of course, are fighting against Creekstone Farms' independent testing plan, saying that it would set an expensive precedent that consumers will be footing the bill for in the supermarket. But the fact is, if the government raised its current standard to 100 percent testing, the shift would add only six cents per pound to the cost of beef. And polls have shown that 95 percent of Americans would happily pay an extra TEN cents per pound for beef they knew was safe without a doubt. So what's the problem? Why won't they allow even one small farm to perform 100 percent testing -- at its own expense? Granted, bureaucratic systems hate change -- and our labyrinth of government regulators always seem more likely to resist a new idea than investigate its merits. But this ban goes beyond reason -- and into the realm of guilt and fear-based behavior. The bottom line is that whether our government is merely afraid -- or practicing a more sinister cover-up -- they are putting us all at risk. You can somewhat sidestep this mess by sticking with meat from grass-fed cattle. But since beef products can be found in much more than just steak and burgers, you're still not completely safe. There's much, much more information about mad cow disease than I could even begin to fit in here. You might want to look into it, although I'll warn you that it is extremely unsettling. Of course, I suspect that some of the more hysterical claims should be taken with a grain of salt and dismissed until proven. But the lingering question is: shouldn't we be anxious to learn the truth -- and avoid the consequences of such a potentially dangerous disease? I know what my answer is. From: DebMark spa...@warwick.net Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath: THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH I swear by Apollo the physician, by Æsculapius, Hygeia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgement, the following Oath. To consider dear to me as my parents him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and if necessary to share my goods with him; to look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art if they so desire without fee or written promise; to impart to my sons and the sons of the master who taught me and the disciples who have enrolled themselves and have agreed to the rules of the profession, but to these alone the precepts and the instruction. I will prescribe regimen for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgement and never do harm to anyone. To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which may cause his death. Nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion. But I will preserve the purity of my life and my art. I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art. In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves. All that may come to my knowledge in the
Re: CSDMSO and CS
I use an eye dropper (rubber top) to mix DMSO/CS. Trick is to squirt out all the DMSO before putting it back in the bottle. If you don't dump out the DMSO the rubber eyedropper top melts. My eyedroppers last for several years this way. I use the same eyedropper for H2O2 also. Brickey
RE: CScs/legal issue and hippocratic oath
It is also interesting that the oath is made to Apollo; sun god of the illuminists. JOH -Original Message- From: Christine Carleton [mailto:essential-liv...@telus.net] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs/legal issue and hippocratic oath They changed it - subtly at first - big time recently. Check out what they use at your local medical school. I think the current one that is used at Harvard was posted once. L -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide
I agree with Sol on the initial use of H2O2, I was a Home Health Nurse for many years and we used full strength H2O2 all the time on infected wounds, however tha last few years they had us dilute it to 1/2 strength with Normal Saline. The new skin tissue did seem to heal better, look pinker and moister. After awhile just plain Normal saline was the best . However this was all after the reallly bad infection was cleared out. Just plain moist Normal Saline after the wound was clean healed most wounds beautifully. sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:I think the amount of H202 one would add to EIS is small enough not to be a problem even if one believes H202 is a problem. I myself still believe straight 3% H202 is a perfectly good wound flush for immediate first aid, and I would also have no hesitation to use it on an infected wound where I wanted to debride the pus and infected cells off the wound. It does kill new cells, but I personally never have continued to use it on a non-infected healing wound, nor do I know anyone else who has. I think perhaps they don't like peroxide because it is cheap and effective? With my mother who got many infected wounds on her legs in her last couple years, she had this argument with the public health nurse and the doctor several times. However, the wound wash and the neosporin they always wanted to put on her wounds invariably let them become terribly infected..so I don't know what the medical deal is, maybe just drumming up business for abx prescriptions? Whatever, I was completely underwhelmed by their alternatives to peroxide. However they were very insistent that we not use it, to the point where both the Dr. and the nurse became very angry. Had I known about EIS those days, I'd have used it. So we just quit telling them what we were doing. God knows my mother would probably have lost a leg, if I had let them treat her their way only. I remember once the nurse washing a leg wound, and putting on neosporin, they next morning it was unbelievably worse and inflamed. They insisted I was wrong about the reaction to the neosporin. I would clean the wound my way, and put on a vit e ointment (from a clean new jar of ointment) and it would be better when the dressing was changed, but the nurse would still be horrified that I had taken off her dressing and re-done it, saying I was making things worse. FWIW, my mother is the one who wanted peroxide used, as she said it was what she always used and she never used to get infections from cuts and scratches. Medical people see what they want to see, I guess. Sort of like the rest of us, but then I know I saw what I sawand my mom reported less pain in the wounds when I took care of them, too. I ended up feeling less respect for doctors and nurses than I had ever had, and also believing one just has to try different things, and stick with what works, no matter what the professionals say. sol William Amos wrote: Hello all: In the October-2004 issue of Readers Digest there is an article on First Aid You Should Never Use. Included is the use of Hydrogen Peroxide. Dermatologist Robert Kirsner, a spokesperson for the American Academy of Dermatology mentions Hydrogen Peroxide, along with other medications can be toxic to skin cells, impeding healing and killing healthy cells. Does anyone have have information on mixing CS and H2O2 as being safe to use either internally or externally ? Bill Amos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide
Nancy, You wrote, ...we used full strength H2O2 ... What strength is full? TIA, JOH -Original Message- From: Nancy Venzon [mailto:nven...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide I agree with Sol on the initial use of H2O2, I was a Home Health Nurse for many years and we used full strength H2O2 all the time on infected wounds, however tha last few years they had us dilute it to 1/2 strength with Normal Saline. The new skin tissue did seem to heal better, look pinker and moister. After awhile just plain Normal saline was the best . However this was all after the reallly bad infection was cleared out. Just plain moist Normal Saline after the wound was clean healed most wounds beautifully. sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I think the amount of H202 one would add to EIS is small enough not to be a problem even if one believes H202 is a problem. I myself still believe straight 3% H202 is a perfectly good wound flush for immediate first aid, and I would also have no hesitation to use it on an infected wound where I wanted to debride the pus and infected cells off the wound. It does kill new cells, but I personally never have continued to use it on a non-infected healing wound, nor do I know anyone else who has. I think perhaps they don't like peroxide because it is cheap and effective?
Re: CSOl Bob revealed!
This is great, THANK YOU... a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSXylitol (sugar)
Jim, Xylitol is mostly made from beer foam in the fermenting stage. It is an alcohol sugar, Xylitol is very low carb, and very low carlore compared to sugar. Xylitol is a very good nose flush too, mixed with CS and even DMSO, I have used it for two years now for my allergies , it works real well. I use about a tea spoon per 8 oz cs 10% DMSO by volume. They have used xylitol for sinus in Europe for a long time, also it has been the sweetner of choice since 1974, the year it was introduced to the USA. No one would run with it then, but the Atkins craze has made it popular now all over the world. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Jim Holmes wrote: Someone posted that Xylotol---a sugar derived from the Beech tree---was very effective. It makes the CS/DMSO taste swee too. I bought some but have yet to mix a batch, as my chronic sinus has been acceptible for a while. A rock-hard lymph node is cause for concern, particularly if it remains so for a week or more. Were it I, I would take a lot of CS with a bit of DMSO orally; then see a Medical Practicioner if it had not returned to normal JOH -Original Message- From: Nessie [mailto:nes...@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSinus Any idea how to unblock stubborn sinus on one side only.. Also lymp node on that side is rock hard.?? Been using c/s and DMSO flushes.. !0% DMSO..?? thanks. Grant.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPH/Alkalizing
Hooray for this wonderful news! Alpha Omega is a splendid company and I highly recommend their products. Thanks for this great development. Cancema can save many, many lives and should be in everyone's home medical kit. On Sunday, Sep 26, 2004, at 01:15 Asia/Tokyo, Jason wrote: Alpha Omega Labs should be back in business sometime this fall/winter. Their hydroxide solution is better than anything else I've seen, and I wish I had access to it right now. ( http://www.altcancer.com ). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
