Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised cost. Ah well, I've never had a problem with them, other than that nasty thing they did by capping their "unlimited" plans. Still with them after three and a half years... Cheers, Paul When I started with optus the phone line was free but after a while it developed a $25 a month charge, and soon after that a flatmate had a use for it so it has stayed. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 08:00:15PM +1200, John Gibbons wrote: > Anyway, when I rang and queried the whole deal 18 months later (slow of > me, I know) I was told the handset could go but I still had to have the > line because it serviced the modem and would have to continue to pay $10 > per month for that. Que? Geez, their helldesk people really haven't been touched by the cluestick. As far as I was aware, the $10 was a discount that you got for having both services. Back when they started charging for it, the line by itself was $20 per month. Having just cable internet was ~$60 (I can't remember what I was actually paying back then). If you had them together, then it was only $70 all up. > I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus > Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the > advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised > cost. Ah well, I've never had a problem with them, other than that nasty thing they did by capping their "unlimited" plans. Still with them after three and a half years... Cheers, Paul -- Paul Dwerryhouse| PGP Key ID: 0x6B91B584 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Yes, cable. I am in a 2 story house and they put a cable into my upstairs room. A telstra phone line was downstairs with extensions upstairs. So I did not need another phone. However, a phone came with it and when I queried the need for for it they told me it was a necessary part of the installation anyway. That added $20 to the advertised monthly cost of the service. Maybe I was gullible. Anyway, when I rang and queried the whole deal 18 months later (slow of me, I know) I was told the handset could go but I still had to have the line because it serviced the modem and would have to continue to pay $10 per month for that. This means that the advertised monthly cost of the broadband service was shonky and it was dearer than people were being told. That got up my nose so I recently changed over to Unwired. Saves money, is an excellent service and I can take the modem elsewhere where reception exists and use it with my laptop. I fool around with 3 computers, all running Windows alongside Linux and the Unwired service is a trouble free installation even a beginner can understand. A router means all 3 computers share the modem without cable swapping which I was doing with Optus gear.So I am in front. I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised cost. Maybe the pricing is more transparent now - I hope so. John. Grant Parnell wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, john gibbons wrote: I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. An excellent service and cheaper. Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I say something is easy to set up. BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you will not get caught as I did. Are you talking about Cable or ADSL? The subject is about cable, the stuff you get the TV through. I am aware that they can actually provide telephone over the cable though. I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to reset it. It will only talk to the first MAC address it sees. I spent half an hour figuring that out. (Same for i-burst ethernet). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:08:43PM +1000, Grant Parnell wrote: > I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, > neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards > or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to > reset it. Yup. And it _has_ to be the plug - the reset/stanby button won't do it. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Dwerryhouse| PGP Key ID: 0x6B91B584 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, john gibbons wrote: > I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 > years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. > An excellent service and cheaper. > > Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also > experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. > I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no > trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with > virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a > text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I > say something is easy to set up. > > BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one > basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the > telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not > want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you > will not get caught as I did. Are you talking about Cable or ADSL? The subject is about cable, the stuff you get the TV through. I am aware that they can actually provide telephone over the cable though. I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to reset it. It will only talk to the first MAC address it sees. I spent half an hour figuring that out. (Same for i-burst ethernet). -- -- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG President, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver & rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
I used Optus cable, never had any issues with it. I don't connect my machine directly, I go via a little box that is a dhcp client to optus and a dhcp server to my lan. I have no reason to think it doesn't work directly though. Support is fine. Extremely few dropouts. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. An excellent service and cheaper. Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I say something is easy to set up. BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you will not get caught as I did. Because my experience began 2 years ago, some things may have changed. They do not support Linux. Sluggers will be of more help there. I was running Windows XP and not a Linux user when I joined up. However, I found that some of the questions I wanted to ask, such as numerical addresses of gateways, server, etc., were answered in a friendly way. They told me how to get XP to reveal these addresses to me. I did not know enough to be aware that I could do that. My suggestion is to give Unwired some consideration. It is easy to check if you are in a good reception area. And there is no setup fee now. Since I switched over a month ago I am delighted with it. I even reinstalled a few different versions of Linux to test it out. Faultless and easy configuration in each case except only for Suse which, as usual, left me scratching my head and wondering why I keep trying with that distro. Unwired does not support Linux either, but who of the major players does??? Hope this helps. John. Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote: I have been putting off broadband installation at home for more than a year now. However, this Optus promotion of $0 broadband installation and 3 or 4 months free is very tempting. Before I dip in the pool ... 1) Does anyone here use Optus Cable ? What hardware do they provide ? Does it work with 2.6 kernels ... or do you need some specific patches. I'm running Fedora Core 3 at home s well. 2) How is the service ? Do you get bumped off if you call / email technical support and tell them you use Linux ? Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
> Jesus Salvo Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have been putting off broadband installation at home for more than a > year > now. However, this Optus promotion of $0 broadband installation and 3 > or 4 > months free is very tempting. Before I dip in the pool ... > > 1) Does anyone here use Optus Cable ? What hardware do they provide ? > Does it > work with 2.6 kernels ... or do you need some specific patches. I'm > running > Fedora Core 3 at home s well. I got a cable modem which supports USB and ethernet connections, never tried the USB, but ethernet couldn't be simpler: configure eth1 (or whatever) to use DHCP plug in cable ifup eth1 > > 2) How is the service ? Do you get bumped off if you call / email > technical > support and tell them you use Linux ? I've only ever seen it down due to lightning, so never really had a need to call them. I doubt tech support would want to know about Linux. The installers won't know what to do with Linux either. I gave them a Win2K box to test the modem with, then plugged into a Linux firewall box when they left. Their policy against running servers is about all I have to complain about. -- Felix -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Optus Cable
I have been putting off broadband installation at home for more than a year now. However, this Optus promotion of $0 broadband installation and 3 or 4 months free is very tempting. Before I dip in the pool ... 1) Does anyone here use Optus Cable ? What hardware do they provide ? Does it work with 2.6 kernels ... or do you need some specific patches. I'm running Fedora Core 3 at home s well. 2) How is the service ? Do you get bumped off if you call / email technical support and tell them you use Linux ? Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] optus cable modem
Hey. Optus with Linux is easy. :-) I've done it twice so far, with only minor problems. Michael Collins wrote: If possible take the ethernet option with the modem as USB can give you all sorts of grief. My opinion/experience only though. I'll second this. The ethernet modem Just Works. During the install, the Optus guy will want to have a Windows machine to do the install on. They have to confirm that it works with the Optus software to complete the job. Once he's gone, just plug the modem in to your smoothwall box. The ethernet modems bind to the MAC address of the network card they're plugged in to, so reboot it when you move it to another box. As has already been said, you just need to configure the external interface to get its address with DHCP, and it'll work. -Original Message- how easy is it to do? another I should add to this is, how easy is it to configure the machines on the local area network to share the internet connection? do I need to create an ethernet bridge or somehow ensure the nic on the green interface for the smoothwall users out there, is on the same subnet as the optus cable modem? The internal (green? sorry, I've never used smoothwall) interface has to have a private IP address, which will be completely seperate from the Optus cable modem address (probably something like 192.168.0.1). Check the smoothwall docs about how to set up masquerading. It probably makes the setup incredibly simple. G'luck! :-) -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] optus cable modem
Hi Shaun If possible take the ethernet option with the modem as USB can give you all sorts of grief. My opinion/experience only though. The modem itself doesn't need any configuration, just plug it in and if Optus have your account active it'll be given it's 10.x.x.x address and come up online. The modem acts as a bridge, so to speak, so there's no configuration of the internal interface. The smoothwall box will then get it's IP via DHCP. Again, with smoothwall you should just be able to tell it this diring the install and it will configure DHCP to run (not sure whether PUMP is still used) For the internal systems just set the gateway address to the IP of the green interface on the smoothwall box and you're away. Hope this helps Michael > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver > Sent: Friday, 20 February 2004 12:37 AM > To: Sydney Linux users Group > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SLUG] optus cable modem > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > hi all, I'm asking this again even though I've asked before > just to be 1000% sure of what I'm doing before I go fiddling > things I understand well. setting up an optus cable modem on > a linux/smoothwall machine. whether it be usb or ethernet. > how easy is it to do? another I should add to this is, how > easy is it to configure the machines on the local area > network to share the internet connection? do I need to create > an ethernet bridge or somehow ensure the nic on the green > interface for the smoothwall users out there, is on the same > subnet as the optus cable modem? we're just about at that > stage whereby we ring optus and tell them we want it. not to > mention installation is cheep as at the moment, or virtually > free if you opt for a direct debit option. thanks in advance > for reading my tired boring old questions but, I wanted to > ensure that things will work as planned. > > - -- > Shaun Oliver > > > "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/ > IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: > IRCNICK: blindman > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQFANLwS67hYtcFGIIcRAj+sAJ4pGpZxJQEsA4rl0Ns2VbDsocmQSgCfS4B8 > wuA57N3uSqdWSFqP2M2skag= > =u5nF > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] optus cable modem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all, I'm asking this again even though I've asked before just to be 1000% sure of what I'm doing before I go fiddling things I understand well. setting up an optus cable modem on a linux/smoothwall machine. whether it be usb or ethernet. how easy is it to do? another I should add to this is, how easy is it to configure the machines on the local area network to share the internet connection? do I need to create an ethernet bridge or somehow ensure the nic on the green interface for the smoothwall users out there, is on the same subnet as the optus cable modem? we're just about at that stage whereby we ring optus and tell them we want it. not to mention installation is cheep as at the moment, or virtually free if you opt for a direct debit option. thanks in advance for reading my tired boring old questions but, I wanted to ensure that things will work as planned. - -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFANLwS67hYtcFGIIcRAj+sAJ4pGpZxJQEsA4rl0Ns2VbDsocmQSgCfS4B8 wuA57N3uSqdWSFqP2M2skag= =u5nF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable Problems.
I use pump (apt-get install pump) instead of dhcpcd as my DHCP client, and it works fine with optus. You might want to try that. Optus doesn't you to send anything, so don't send your machine name or host name or anything. You could try power cycle your modem before starting your dhcp client. Unplug the power cable, wait a bit, plug it back in, and the modem will reset (LEDs flashing in a pattern). Make sure you have iface eth0 inet dhcp in your /etc/network/interfaces, then $ ifup eth0 to start the DHCP client. HTH, Ian. On 2004-02-01 05:34pm, Andrew Robson wrote: > >Hey all, > > > >Need some help setting up Optus Cable and debian. > > > >I am but a low Newbi in the setup/installation of debian.. well Linux >in general.. > > > >here's the problem. > > > >* DHCP will not fin an IP when I try to connect to Optus Cable. > > > >I have done the following. > > * Tried the standard install dhcp (well the friend that did >the install did). > >-configured the interface file so that eth0 is using dhcp > >-configured the dhcp.conf (the dhcp config file.. incase I >have miss spelt it) > > & client file to send the host name which is the machine >name > >I have not yet tried the client ID one from Optus as >everything I have read says you don't have to anymore. >And I am still trying to find it. > >*I have tried dhcpcd and after setting up the config files (or >checking them rather) and trying commands such as. > >dhcpcd -d eth0 or > >dhcpcd -h -d eth0 > > it still does not work. > > > > *I have then tried dhcp3 set up the appropriate config files >with the most appropriate info. > > > >If i do a command line dhcpcd as above I get messages such as > >*netdev watchdog: eth0: Transmit timed out > > > >or if I go into init.d/ and do a networking restart I get messages >like. > > > >DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ?? > >where ?? is a changing number each time. or there abouts. > > > > > >I have read and tried everything I can about setting up Optus cable, >so I have turned here as a last resort. > > > >some other facts. > > > >I also run windows on the same machine "yes I know it blows" :P > >it is a dual boot. > >the NIC works as I am using it now. > > > >this is most frustrating as under winblows all I have to do is have >the interface set to DHCP and it works > > > > > >any help would be most appreciated. .. > > > >thanks.. > > > >Andrew > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Regards, Ian Su SIRCA (Securities Industry Research Centre of Asia-Pacific) http://www.sirca.org.au/ Tel: 8374-5078 Email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DISCLAIMER: The contents of this email, inclusive of attachments, may be legally privileged and confidential. Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the email message along with any attachment(s). Unintended recipients of this email are prohibited from retaining, disclosing, distributing or using any information contained herein. This email is also subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written consent of the copyright owner. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] optus cable.
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 03:44 am, James Gray wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:26 pm, Andrew Robson wrote:
> *SNIPPED*
>
> > I have read and tried everything I can about setting up Optus cable, so
> > I have turned here as a last resort.
> >
> > some other facts.
> >
> > I also run windows on the same machine "yes I know it blows" :P
> > it is a dual boot.
> > the NIC works as I am using it now.
> >
> > this is most frustrating as under winblows all I have to do is have the
> > interface set to DHCP and it works
>
> Make sure there is an alias in your modules for your card. Here's what's
> in my config:
>
> First make sure the module is being loaded at boot for your NIC (the
> tulip driver will usually work - but check your NIC's chipset):
> --
> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
> ...
> 8139too # my ethernet card yours will be "tulip" - FA310TX
> ...
> --
>
> Then make sure your interface is being configured at boot too:
> --
> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
> # The loopback interface
> auto lo eth0
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # This entry was created during the Debian installation
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> --
>
> This should cover it.
>
> GRAIN-O-SALT: I'm not using Optus cable but I am using DHCP on Debian in
> a number of environments (some quite strange) and it "Just Works" (tm)
> provided your NIC is configured correctly.
>
> Good luck,
>
> James
Having done some reading, it appears Debian uses the ISC "dhclient" for
obtaining DHCP leases. Although Optus say you don't need to send a
hostname which is your account ID etc, you can always give it a shot, just
for kicks. I got the following from the "DHCP How-to"
(http://public.ldp.planetmirror.com/HOWTO/DHCP/x74.html):
"With the current version of the DHCP client, you don't actually need a
dhclient.conf. All you have to do is invoke dhclient e.g.: /sbin/dhclient.
This will configure all broadcast interfaces. If this doesn't work or you
want to specify only one interface create a /etc/dhclient.conf file with
this example configuration.
interface "eth0" {
send dhcp-client-identifier 1:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;
send dhcp-lease-time 86400;
}
Here we assume that the ethernet interface is eth0. If not change
accordingly. Also replace xx:xx:xx:xx:xx with your ethernet address. This
dhclient.conf makes the client look more like a Win95 client."
HTH
James
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Re: [SLUG] optus cable.
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:26 pm, Andrew Robson wrote: *SNIPPED* > I have read and tried everything I can about setting up Optus cable, so I > have turned here as a last resort. > > some other facts. > > I also run windows on the same machine "yes I know it blows" :P > it is a dual boot. > the NIC works as I am using it now. > > this is most frustrating as under winblows all I have to do is have the > interface set to DHCP and it works Make sure there is an alias in your modules for your card. Here's what's in my config: First make sure the module is being loaded at boot for your NIC (the tulip driver will usually work - but check your NIC's chipset): -- # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. ... 8139too # my ethernet card yours will be "tulip" - FA310TX ... -- Then make sure your interface is being configured at boot too: -- # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback # This entry was created during the Debian installation iface eth0 inet dhcp -- This should cover it. GRAIN-O-SALT: I'm not using Optus cable but I am using DHCP on Debian in a number of environments (some quite strange) and it "Just Works" (tm) provided your NIC is configured correctly. Good luck, James -- Fortune cookies says: Life is a process, not a principle, a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved. - Gerard Straub, television producer and author (stolen from Frank Herbert??) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] optus cable.
Sorry to be sending this again. but as my first send was in HTML, I thought I would send it in plain text. Hey all, Need some help setting up Optus Cable and debian. I am but a low Newbi in the setup/installation of debian.. well Linux in general.. here's the problem. * DHCP will not fin an IP when I try to connect to Optus Cable. I have done the following. * Tried the standard install dhcp (well the friend that did the install did). -configured the interface file so that eth0 is using dhcp -configured the dhcp.conf (the dhcp config file.. incase I have miss spelt it) & client file to send the host name which is the machine name I have not yet tried the client ID one from Optus as everything I have read says you don't have to anymore. And I am still trying to find it. *I have tried dhcpcd and after setting up the config files (or checking them rather) and trying commands such as. dhcpcd -d eth0 or dhcpcd -h -d eth0 it still does not work. *I have then tried dhcp3 set up the appropriate config files with the most appropriate info. If i do a command line dhcpcd as above I get messages such as *netdev watchdog: eth0: Transmit timed out or if I go into init.d/ and do a networking restart I get messages like. DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ?? where ?? is a changing number each time. or there abouts. I have read and tried everything I can about setting up Optus cable, so I have turned here as a last resort. some other facts. I also run windows on the same machine "yes I know it blows" :P it is a dual boot. the NIC works as I am using it now. this is most frustrating as under winblows all I have to do is have the interface set to DHCP and it works any help would be most appreciated. .. thanks.. Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Optus Cable Problems.
Hey all, Need some help setting up Optus Cable and debian. I am but a low Newbi in the setup/installation of debian.. well Linux in general.. here's the problem. * DHCP will not fin an IP when I try to connect to Optus Cable. I have done the following. * Tried the standard install dhcp (well the friend that did the install did). -configured the interface file so that eth0 is using dhcp -configured the dhcp.conf (the dhcp config file.. incase I have miss spelt it) & client file to send the host name which is the machine name I have not yet tried the client ID one from Optus as everything I have read says you don't have to anymore. And I am still trying to find it. *I have tried dhcpcd and after setting up the config files (or checking them rather) and trying commands such as. dhcpcd -d eth0 or dhcpcd -h -d eth0 it still does not work. *I have then tried dhcp3 set up the appropriate config files with the most appropriate info. If i do a command line dhcpcd as above I get messages such as *netdev watchdog: eth0: Transmit timed out or if I go into init.d/ and do a networking restart I get messages like. DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ?? where ?? is a changing number each time. or there abouts. I have read and tried everything I can about setting up Optus cable, so I have turned here as a last resort. some other facts. I also run windows on the same machine "yes I know it blows" :P it is a dual boot. the NIC works as I am using it now. this is most frustrating as under winblows all I have to do is have the interface set to DHCP and it works any help would be most appreciated. .. thanks.. Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www
> "Peter" == Peter Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Peter> ...and then Simon Bryan said:
>>
>> >
>> > , and copy that line into the resolv.conf on your client
>> machines. Then > you should be able to browse the homepage.
>>
>> Hmmm, does Windows have one of these? Can't seem to find anything
>> relevant.
Peter> If you're running DHCP on your internal network, then you can
Peter> configure it to assign a domain name by putting option
Peter> domain-name "blah.blah";
Peter> in your dhcpd.conf.
My only problem doing that was that then local names stopped working
(I've got a real domain inside my firewall, and don't want to change my
local hostnames). So I added a redirector.
In /usr/lin/squid/redir.pl:
#!/usr/bin/perl
$|=1;
while (<>) {
s@http://.*\.doubleclick\.net/.*@/file:///usr/lib/squid/onepix.gif@;
s@http://www/@http://www.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au/@;
s@http://www:@http://www.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au:@;
print;
}
(The www.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au line should reflect whatever the
gateway's DHCP dialogue came up with -- you may not be in Randwick.)
(This one gets rid of the doubleclick.net ads too)
And in squid.conf:
# TAG: redirect_program
# Specify the location of the executable for the URL redirector.
# Since they can perform almost any function there isn't one
included.
# See the Release-Notes for information on how to write one.
# By default, a redirector is not used.
#
#Default:
# none
redirect_program/usr/lib/squid/redir.pl
Peter C
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Re: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www
...and then Simon Bryan said: > > > > > , and copy that line into the resolv.conf on your client machines. Then > > you should be able to browse the homepage. > > Hmmm, does Windows have one of these? Can't seem to find anything relevant. Oh, you need it to work for Windows clients too? If you're running DHCP on your internal network, then you can configure it to assign a domain name by putting option domain-name "blah.blah"; in your dhcpd.conf. I do know that you can manually give Windows a search domain, but I can never remember how, and it's drifting too far off-topic anyway. ;-) -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www
> Hi all, > Thanks for the advice recently on getting my second NIC running and > connecting to Optus Cable - it is working if you get this email :-) > > However can anyone tell me how to access the OptusCable Home page http:/www/ > ? I am running through Squid as a proxy server at the moment and the server > is on RH7.2. This works fine if your system is connected directly to the ^^^ What browser do you use? I find I can only connect to this site using Netscape 4.x. It does not seem to render correctly using Skipstone, Galeon or Mozilla. (In particular various navigational tabs are not displayed and there is a white band across the image where the top row of buttons should be) Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:05:20 +1100 Simon Bryan wrote: > However can anyone tell me how to access the OptusCable Home page > http:/www/? I am running through Squid as a proxy server at the moment > and the server is on RH7.2. This works fine if your system is > connected directly to the modem. When your gateway connects, the DHCP server assigns a domain to search for hostnames in, which gets added to /etc/resolv.conf. On your gateway, look in the /etc/resolv.conf for a line like: search belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au , and copy that line into the resolv.conf on your client machines. Then you should be able to browse the homepage. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www
I had to do this recently. I think all you need to do is add nsw.optushome.com.au to your dns search domain. In /etc/resolv.conf put search nsw.optushome.com.au and it should work. (also fix dhcp so the clients get the correct domain to search) Now if you dig through the archives there are many more examples/answers, but that seemed to work for me. dave - Original Message - From: "Simon Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Slug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [SLUG] Optus cable home page www > Hi all, > Thanks for the advice recently on getting my second NIC running and > connecting to Optus Cable - it is working if you get this email :-) > > However can anyone tell me how to access the OptusCable Home page http:/www/ > ? I am running through Squid as a proxy server at the moment and the server > is on RH7.2. This works fine if your system is connected directly to the > modem. > > _ > Simon Bryan > IT Manager > OLMC Parramata > ICQ#: 137562751 > _ > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Optus cable home page www
Hi all, Thanks for the advice recently on getting my second NIC running and connecting to Optus Cable - it is working if you get this email :-) However can anyone tell me how to access the OptusCable Home page http:/www/ ? I am running through Squid as a proxy server at the moment and the server is on RH7.2. This works fine if your system is connected directly to the modem. _ Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramata ICQ#: 137562751 _ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
It is definitely based on the MAC of the Modem and not the NIC. Adam. On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 09:18, Brett Fenton wrote: > I could be wrong but I think that it's based on the MAC of the modem, > not the NIC. > > Regards > Brett > > :> -Original Message- > :> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > :> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > :> Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG > :> Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2002 8:14 AM > :> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > :> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable > :> > :> > :> > > How are they keeping track of user data if the > :> hostname is no longer > :> > > required to obtain a DHCP lease? > :> > > > :> > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the > :> DOCSIS modem... > :> > > :> > The MAC address of the NIC. > :> > :> Does this mean for a $30 investment for an extra NIC you > :> can 2x your > :> bandwidth limit? > :> > :> Maybe they're also tracking info in the cable modem via a query? > :> > :> Stu > :> > :> -- > :> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > :> More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > :> > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
FW: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Title: FW: [SLUG] Optus Cable -Original Message- From: Simon Bryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > So where does the cable modem connect to? The one I have has both a USB plug and an RJ45 connector. Using USB (they insist on setting it up this way) requires special drivers, and apparently it won't work thourgh a hub. I havn't tried the USB option under linux. It can also be connected to a NIC with a crossover cable. Simple, reliable, should work for any system that can use DHCP. (Definitely works for Windows and Linux) - Doug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Quoting Simon Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So where does the cable modem connect to? I assumed it would be setup on > a > serial port or does it connect direct to a NIC? > I am already running dhcp on the RH server, but the server itself has > a > fixed address. If OPTUS connects to a NIC am I better off having two in > my > server (or is that essential), one for OPTUS and the other for the rest > of > the LAN? Depends on the modem they issue you. typically they give external modems which connect to another nic in your computer.. So if you want to share this cable modem link, you'd need 2 nic's. 1 for modem, and 1 for internal lan to hook to the machine controlling it... As someone mentioned, I'd recommend you get a pentium machine with 2 nics to controll it... and then you dont need to worry about configuring firewall rules on your server, just set them up on the stand alone machine :) and have no services running on the nic to the modem :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
The modem connects via an RJ45 plug. You can put this into either the uplink on a switch (or one of those firewall/switches made for cable access) directly or into a NIC. My setup is a RedHey 7.3 gateway. eth0 is for the real world ip, eth1 is the internal network which has below it a couple of machines. I then just use a startup script on the gateway box to set iptables to do the nat etc. It's all worked without any dramas for about 6 or so months. I'll eventually get around to converting the gateway to Debian like the other Linux machines in the network. I can pass around the iptables script to those interested though it's not especially elegant it does the job. Brett :> -Original Message- :> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of :> Simon Bryan :> Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2002 9:31 AM :> To: Ken Foskey; slug :> Subject: RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable :> :> :> So where does the cable modem connect to? I assumed it :> would be setup on a :> serial port or does it connect direct to a NIC? :> I am already running dhcp on the RH server, but the server :> itself has a :> fixed address. If OPTUS connects to a NIC am I better off :> having two in my :> server (or is that essential), one for OPTUS and the other :> for the rest of :> the LAN? :> :> > -Original Message- :> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of :> > Ken Foskey :> > Sent: Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:05 PM :> > To: slug :> > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable :> > :> > :> > On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 23:00, Simon Bryan wrote: :> > > Hi all, :> > > I am seriously considering going to Optus cable. They sya they :> > will install :> > > to a local Windows machine which we have, however how :> hard is it then to :> > > move the system over to a Linux server (RH7.1)? Is there a 'How :> > to' anyhwere :> > > (couldn't find one)? :> > :> > It is dead easy. Set up a network card as dhcp and you :> are away. The :> > 'old' Optus notes said you had to force hostname in dhcp :> but this is no :> > longer required. :> > :> > Firewall is good though!!! Find an old pentium and look :> up ipcop or :> > equivalent. :> > :> > KenF :> > :> > -- :> > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ :> > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug :> :> -- :> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ :> More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug :> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
So where does the cable modem connect to? I assumed it would be setup on a serial port or does it connect direct to a NIC? I am already running dhcp on the RH server, but the server itself has a fixed address. If OPTUS connects to a NIC am I better off having two in my server (or is that essential), one for OPTUS and the other for the rest of the LAN? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Ken Foskey > Sent: Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:05 PM > To: slug > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable > > > On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 23:00, Simon Bryan wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am seriously considering going to Optus cable. They sya they > will install > > to a local Windows machine which we have, however how hard is it then to > > move the system over to a Linux server (RH7.1)? Is there a 'How > to' anyhwere > > (couldn't find one)? > > It is dead easy. Set up a network card as dhcp and you are away. The > 'old' Optus notes said you had to force hostname in dhcp but this is no > longer required. > > Firewall is good though!!! Find an old pentium and look up ipcop or > equivalent. > > KenF > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
I could be wrong but I think that it's based on the MAC of the modem, not the NIC. Regards Brett :> -Original Message- :> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of :> Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG :> Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2002 8:14 AM :> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable :> :> :> > > How are they keeping track of user data if the :> hostname is no longer :> > > required to obtain a DHCP lease? :> > > :> > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the :> DOCSIS modem... :> > :> > The MAC address of the NIC. :> :> Does this mean for a $30 investment for an extra NIC you :> can 2x your :> bandwidth limit? :> :> Maybe they're also tracking info in the cable modem via a query? :> :> Stu :> :> -- :> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ :> More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug :> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
I could be wrong but I think that it's based on the MAC of the modem, not the NIC. Regards Brett Fenton :> -Original Message- :> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of :> Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG :> Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2002 8:14 AM :> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable :> :> :> > > How are they keeping track of user data if the :> hostname is no longer :> > > required to obtain a DHCP lease? :> > > :> > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the :> DOCSIS modem... :> > :> > The MAC address of the NIC. :> :> Does this mean for a $30 investment for an extra NIC you :> can 2x your :> bandwidth limit? :> :> Maybe they're also tracking info in the cable modem via a query? :> :> Stu :> :> -- :> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ :> More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug :> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
> > How are they keeping track of user data if the hostname is no longer > > required to obtain a DHCP lease? > > > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the DOCSIS modem... > > The MAC address of the NIC. Does this mean for a $30 investment for an extra NIC you can 2x your bandwidth limit? Maybe they're also tracking info in the cable modem via a query? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
> Now I am curious. > > How are they keeping track of user data if the hostname is no longer > required to obtain a DHCP lease? > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the DOCSIS modem... The MAC address of the NIC. - Jeff -- "GNOME, launched specifically to counter a threat to our freedom, is the free software project par excellence." - Richard Stallman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Around about 2304h 15/10/2002, Ken Foskey emitted the following wisdom: > It is dead easy. Set up a network card as dhcp and you are away. The > 'old' Optus notes said you had to force hostname in dhcp but this is no > longer required. Now I am curious. How are they keeping track of user data if the hostname is no longer required to obtain a DHCP lease? Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the DOCSIS modem... Pete de Zwart. -- And remember... May the Source be with you... Always... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 23:00, Simon Bryan wrote: > Hi all, > I am seriously considering going to Optus cable. They sya they will install > to a local Windows machine which we have, however how hard is it then to > move the system over to a Linux server (RH7.1)? Is there a 'How to' anyhwere > (couldn't find one)? It is dead easy. Set up a network card as dhcp and you are away. The 'old' Optus notes said you had to force hostname in dhcp but this is no longer required. Firewall is good though!!! Find an old pentium and look up ipcop or equivalent. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Optus Cable
Hi all, I am seriously considering going to Optus cable. They sya they will install to a local Windows machine which we have, however how hard is it then to move the system over to a Linux server (RH7.1)? Is there a 'How to' anyhwere (couldn't find one)? Cheers _ Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramata ICQ#: 137562751 _ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
> The current situation is this: > WAIT ! > Now, Optus pick up an IP address by the MAC address of your > network card. Change your network card and you'll get > a different IP address. > Changing the network card would affect the MAC address, which this system now relies on for DHCP. Problem we had was simple: Not power cycling the modem. We pulled it out of a Win32 machine and straight into the Linux box, effectively confusing the hell out of the modem - causing it not to *be able to* contact a DHCP server on the Optus network. After the power cycle it worked like clockwork, first time...GREAT! Thanks for all the help, much appreciated (as usuall) Regards, Alan Vink -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Andre Pang wrote: > On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 10:14:45PM +1000, Alan Vink wrote: > > > We have a home/office user running Optus Cable. The problem is that we > > cannot get the Cable service to work under Linux > > > > In the past I had a home connection running Optus Cable and it was quite > > easliy achieved with 'dhcpcd' and in one case (don't know why) I was able to > > jump on the network unauthenticated for over a year by just using dhcp and > > no host/client id information supplied. > > The current situation is this: > > Now, Optus pick up an IP address by the MAC address of your > network card. Change your network card and you'll get > a different IP address. > > You don't need to send the hostname anymore when you send a DHCP > request (the hostname being the co3000xxx-a thing). Now, > however, you are _required_ to use DHCP to jump on the network; > assigning yourself a static IP doesn't work. > > You might also want to subscribe yourself to the athome-linux > egroup; search for athome-linux on www.yahoogroups.com The only additional thing I had to do was power cycle the cable modem. One web reference claimed a cable modem reset is required when the MAC address changes - it looks like it did in my case. (Done about two weeks ago). HTH. Luke. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 10:14:45PM +1000, Alan Vink wrote: > We have a home/office user running Optus Cable. The problem is that we > cannot get the Cable service to work under Linux > > In the past I had a home connection running Optus Cable and it was quite > easliy achieved with 'dhcpcd' and in one case (don't know why) I was able to > jump on the network unauthenticated for over a year by just using dhcp and > no host/client id information supplied. The current situation is this: Now, Optus pick up an IP address by the MAC address of your network card. Change your network card and you'll get a different IP address. You don't need to send the hostname anymore when you send a DHCP request (the hostname being the co3000xxx-a thing). Now, however, you are _required_ to use DHCP to jump on the network; assigning yourself a static IP doesn't work. You might also want to subscribe yourself to the athome-linux egroup; search for athome-linux on www.yahoogroups.com -- #ozone/algorithm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
On 28 Apr, Alan Vink wrote: > Whats "straight" DHCP? Not feeding the hostname to DHCP server at Optus for > authentication?? eg. dhcpcd -h c355 eth0. > > Does anyone know if requirements differ from area to area. In other words, > does "all" Optus cable DHCP servers in various nodes operate identically? Dunno. I would have guessed they would be - why make things harder for themselves? But you do have to present your machine as having the correct hostname: the thing that'd be like co1234567-a that you should have noted down somewhere. I'm just running mine via a firewall appliance with a web interface, so I just had to enter that "co..." string into the appropriate form. Oh, that and tell the firewall to pretend that its MAC address was identical to the MAC address of the ethernet card that it was set up with. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
> Its just straight DHCP these days. > If you can get an IP from a DHCP server with that network card on other > networks then it should work for optus. > we do need a little more info - have you got the cables in the right way? > (believe it or not it happens often that people forget about the local > interface not working while they complain about the internet interface not > working) > Hmmm, I apologise - do not have much more info, and machine is not at hand. The base distribution that was used is Redhat 7.2. The cables were definitely in the correct way, network cards setup correctly too. I also don't have log files available. Whats "straight" DHCP? Not feeding the hostname to DHCP server at Optus for authentication?? eg. dhcpcd -h c355 eth0. Does anyone know if requirements differ from area to area. In other words, does "all" Optus cable DHCP servers in various nodes operate identically? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
> Problem: It's not working. Its just straight DHCP these days. If you can get an IP from a DHCP server with that network card on other networks then it should work for optus. we do need a little more info - have you got the cables in the right way? (believe it or not it happens often that people forget about the local interface not working while they complain about the internet interface not working) dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Optus Cable not working under Linux
Hi Everyone, We have a home/office user running Optus Cable. The problem is that we cannot get the Cable service to work under Linux In the past I had a home connection running Optus Cable and it was quite easliy achieved with 'dhcpcd' and in one case (don't know why) I was able to jump on the network unauthenticated for over a year by just using dhcp and no host/client id information supplied. Could someone please shed some light on a current "working" config and/or how-to on getting this working. Oh - looked at archives and how-to, very much the same info in both. Problem: It's not working. TIA, |Alan J. Vink -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] optus cable hosting website
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 10:41:56AM +1000, DaZZa wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Tom Gao wrote: > > > I was just wondering if anyone knows somebody that hosts their own website > > on their optus cable account ? I know alot of people who are on ADSL are > > doing it (I'm not talking about the business plan) even though they're > > not suppose to.. is that possible too with optus cable ? > > Not unless you want to lose your account without notice. > > Optus portscan. If they find port 80 open, they'll cut you off. > > DaZZa > > P.S. Either use something other than Microsoft Outlook to post to the > Linux list [:-)], or fix your line lengths to 72 characters > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Interesting. Is that in the contract? Otherwise they'd be breaking the law - unauthorised use of computer resources (i.e. causing your competer to respond to all sorts of ports that you don't want them to use). I know the AFP has threatened people with this law for port scanning - it'd be interesting to see how far you could go. Stephen -- Stephen Norris[EMAIL PROTECTED] Farrow Norris Pty Ltd +61 417 243 239 PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] optus cable hosting website
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Tom Gao wrote: > I was just wondering if anyone knows somebody that hosts their own > website on their optus cable account ? I know alot of people who are > on ADSL are doing it (I'm not talking about the business plan) even > though they're not suppose to.. is that possible too with optus cable Possible yes the service is not going to restrict you doing it. However the IP address can change so you need to cater for that. Its is against the AUP though so there is no point doing it anyway. You can't run it as a server. They do port scan as someone mentioned. However outgoing connections are fine. Which brings be to my question. I want to connect to my network from Windows at work via SSH and tunnel ppp or even just X through it. I have a perm modem so can come in over that link to initiate the connection as outbound. Any idea what software I can run under Windows to accept ssh connections which I can then tunnel stuff through. The connection is initated from my end so it does not break the AUP. Any ideas? If this is considered OT please shout beer and reply to slug chat. Cheers Rodos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] optus cable hosting website
> I was just wondering if anyone knows somebody that hosts their own website > on their optus cable account ? I know alot of people who are on ADSL are > doing it (I'm not talking about the business plan) even though they're not > suppose to.. is that possible too with optus cable ? Probably better, as the IP changes less often. You are still breaking your AUP, though. [ -> slug-chat ] - Jeff -- "It's actually my new bandwidth conservation technique: compresion of al double leters." - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] optus cable hosting website
Hi guys I was just wondering if anyone knows somebody that hosts their own website on their optus cable account ? I know alot of people who are on ADSL are doing it (I'm not talking about the business plan) even though they're not suppose to.. is that possible too with optus cable ? Thanks guys :) Tom
Re: [SLUG] optus-cable debian install
David Kempe wrote: > Hey sluggers, > I have dug on google and search the archives and i can't find any answer to > this specific problem. > > I am trying to set up a another debian box here to use as a gateway. I > wanted to install directly off the web as I have a optus@home connection and > no cds or cdburner. > I have booted off the rescue disk and worked through the install up to the > part where i need to get the network card working. > The default DHCP request from the debian installer fails of course, so I > switch to the second console and attempt to use pump manually to try get an > IP address. > If I do a pump -h co3xx-a -i eth0 It doesn't work. Console 4 spits out a > PUMP: sending discover then a whole lot of breq: dhcp messages like opcode > hw etc. > It doenst get any reply. I know the network card works and I have link etc, > I just don't know why pump doesnt work. > It sounds like you have not configured your card yet. Make sure you set up an alias in your modules for you particular card. You might need to set up other gumph like irqs etc. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] optus-cable debian install
> Try dhcpcd if you have it - it works for me. My command line is > dhcpcd -h co3xxx-a. > I'm not familiar with pump, but I'd guess that it doesn't send a > client id, just a hostname request. Yeah I have figured that out. I just manually configured the interface with the same settings as before, got the base packages and got on the net and then installed dhcpcd. it works much better :) so much for pump. thanks, Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] optus-cable debian install
Try dhcpcd if you have it - it works for me. My command line is dhcpcd -h co3xxx-a. I'm not familiar with pump, but I'd guess that it doesn't send a client id, just a hostname request. David Kempe wrote: > I am trying to set up a another debian box here to use as a gateway. I > wanted to install directly off the web as I have a optus@home connection and > no cds or cdburner. > I have booted off the rescue disk and worked through the install up to the > part where i need to get the network card working. > The default DHCP request from the debian installer fails of course, so I > switch to the second console and attempt to use pump manually to try get an > IP address. > If I do a pump -h co3xx-a -i eth0 It doesn't work. Console 4 spits out a > PUMP: sending discover then a whole lot of breq: dhcp messages like opcode > hw etc. > It doenst get any reply. I know the network card works and I have link etc, > I just don't know why pump doesnt work. Len Walter -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] optus-cable debian install
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 12:22:01 +1000, David Kempe wrote: > I am trying to set up a another debian box here to use as a gateway. I > wanted to install directly off the web as I have a optus@home connection and > no cds or cdburner. > The default DHCP request from the debian installer fails of course, so I > switch to the second console and attempt to use pump manually to try get an > IP address. > If I do a pump -h co3xx-a -i eth0 It doesn't work. Console 4 spits out a > PUMP: sending discover then a whole lot of breq: dhcp messages like opcode > hw etc. try using dhclient or dhcpcd instead of pump. both of those work (at least they did for me); the one time i used pump, i never got it to work (even with -h), so i chucked it out and used dhclient/dhcpcd instead. -- #ozone/algorithm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] optus-cable debian install
Hey sluggers, I have dug on google and search the archives and i can't find any answer to this specific problem. I am trying to set up a another debian box here to use as a gateway. I wanted to install directly off the web as I have a optus@home connection and no cds or cdburner. I have booted off the rescue disk and worked through the install up to the part where i need to get the network card working. The default DHCP request from the debian installer fails of course, so I switch to the second console and attempt to use pump manually to try get an IP address. If I do a pump -h co3xx-a -i eth0 It doesn't work. Console 4 spits out a PUMP: sending discover then a whole lot of breq: dhcp messages like opcode hw etc. It doenst get any reply. I know the network card works and I have link etc, I just don't know why pump doesnt work. Any hints? Thanks, Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable?
"Michael F." wrote: > > > > ready for it > > > > > > http://www.linuxathome.net > > > > > > how easy was that !!! > > > > harder than you might think...that sites been down for a while now *8-) > > Looks like someone should have done a mirror of it :) haha They have !!! http://members.optushome.com.au/linuxathome/index.html On a side note I checked www.linuxathome.net before posting it so it must have just gone offline, or maybe the proxy expired the content. Anyway it's available at the above site. Trust me :) Mehmet Ozdemir -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re[2]: [SLUG] Optus Cable?
http://www.oswg.org/oswg-nightly/oswg/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ articles/Cable-Modem/Cable-Modem.html#AEN833 the whole thing look for the section on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently (no experience) if you have a NIC it should work fairly easily from dhcp (well you may be lucky)... if you have USB you'll need a kernel that supports it, and might want to try hoplugging it > http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ (in which case you might also need a 2.4 kernel). It uses the pegasus driver I believe Well, I'm recompiling at the moment on debian to try to get the optus cable working with USB, so I'll let u know.. many maybes make a YES! (2 days later) praccus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable?
> > ready for it > > > > http://www.linuxathome.net > > > > how easy was that !!! > > harder than you might think...that sites been down for a while now *8-) Looks like someone should have done a mirror of it :) haha -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable?
Mehmet Ozdemir wrote: > Now as to getting optus@home running on redhat, here's a gem for you: > > ready for it > > http://www.linuxathome.net > > how easy was that !!! harder than you might think...that sites been down for a while now *8-) -- Rgds, Chris MacKenzie Windows: "Where do you want to go today ?" Mac OS: "Where do you want to be tomorrow ?" Linux: "Are you coming or what ?" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable?
> Is it a big drama to setup Optus Cable for the Internet on RH7? I tried > to gleen something from previous postings, but I don't see anything > specific on the SLUG site. The Optus people went on and on about having > to have Windows and I told them no. If someone could outline the > procedure step by step once the Optus people install their box, I'd > appreciate it and maybe it could be referenced on the SLUG site for > similar enquiries. Thanks. > Richard Blackburn > Richard, This what I did Ring Optus order cable, say you have a Win95 machine (ie lie) When the tech comes over say the machine is off to the "repaired" and to leave the ethernet (i asked for a usb one so maybe he felt comfortable with that) card and cdrom. He may not want to do it but be persistant. He he really doesn't want to do it just come clean, most techs are nice guys, it's just those anal customer service people you have watch out for. Then when he's gone whip out the pc out of the cupboard and away you go.. Now as to getting optus@home running on redhat, here's a gem for you: ready for it http://www.linuxathome.net how easy was that !!! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable?
Richard Blackburn wrote: > Is it a big drama to setup Optus Cable for the Internet on RH7? I tried > to gleen something from previous postings, but I don't see anything > specific on the SLUG site. The Optus people went on and on about having > to have Windows and I told them no. If someone could outline the > procedure step by step once the Optus people install their box, I'd It fairly strait forward. I'd suggest haveing a doze box for the tech to setup and test the cable, then you can simply blow it away and put a decent os on it afterwards *8-) You can try and get redhats broken dhcp client to work or you can simply replace it with the dhcp client from the Internet software consortium at http://www.isc.org/ I use it and it works a treat and is very easy to configure. Simply place your machine name coXX into the dhclient.conf file like so send host-name "COXX-A"; then just whack dhclient into a file such as /etc/rc.d/rc.local and away you go ! Oh and make sure to read up on ipchains to set up a decent firewall for your machine to keep loser haxors out. If you need a place to start let me know and I'll send you my ipchains script which sets up a fairly secure system - I havent been hacked yet *8-) -- Rgds, Chris MacKenzie Windows: "Where do you want to go today ?" Mac OS: "Where do you want to be tomorrow ?" Linux: "Are you coming or what ?" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Optus Cable?
Is it a big drama to setup Optus Cable for the Internet on RH7? I tried to gleen something from previous postings, but I don't see anything specific on the SLUG site. The Optus people went on and on about having to have Windows and I told them no. If someone could outline the procedure step by step once the Optus people install their box, I'd appreciate it and maybe it could be referenced on the SLUG site for similar enquiries. Thanks. Richard Blackburn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable and a network install
I found when I set up my linux box for optus as a comparitive linux newbie (with much help from Andypoo), that Optus is straight DHCP networking, no authentication, etc, its a simple setup routine with SuSE 6.4, and im sure redhat has a similar setup routine that involves just a few questions and that is it, all you need to know is your computer name co and away you go. Good Luck Patrick -Original Message- From: Daniel Brem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 10 September 2000 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Optus Cable and a network install Hi all, I am still classifying myself as a NEWBIE but I am in need of a little help. I am about to help a friend of mine to put a RH6.2 system in as a server for the Optus Cable they have had installed. The box I am giving them is a P133 with 32Meg and a 1 Gig HDD and two network cards and a FDD. I am trying really hard to avoid the need to put a CDROM in the box as it will never be used again afterwards and I would hate to have to go out and buy one. I am wondering (I know it is possible) how I can setup a bootable floppy (or a few) to be able to do an Internet Install of RH6.2 with the necessary settings for using the OPTUS cable modem for this. I have Telstra cable and I know the setup is very different but I don't know ANYTHING about the Optus cable. Has anyone else ever tried this and can send me an image of the disk(s) or point in the right direction for a few session of RTFM. I would appreciate the assistance. Thanks, Daniel Brem. "That's right!" shouted Vroomfondel, "we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" HHGTTG Douglas Adams. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable and a network install
> I am still classifying myself as a NEWBIE but I am in need of a little help. > I am about to help a friend of mine to put a RH6.2 system in as a server for the >Optus Cable they have had installed. > The box I am giving them is a P133 with 32Meg and a 1 Gig HDD and two network cards >and a FDD. I am trying really hard to avoid the need to put a CDROM in the box as it >will never be used again afterwards and I would hate to have to go out and buy one. > > I am wondering (I know it is possible) how I can setup a bootable floppy (or a few) >to be able to do an Internet Install of RH6.2 with the necessary settings for using >the OPTUS cable modem for this. I dont know if this is possible. As a stop gap to solve your problem, it sounds like you have a small network already. Grab something like wingate (assuming you dont already have a linux router on your network) and just do a normal redhat 6.2 netowrk install, and use a winblows box as a gateway. Jason -- GnuPG Key 2450EEDC Jason Rennie<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Key fingerprint = 1A2B 5E34 B45A 2871 A488 99C7 7579 5FFC 2450 EEDC -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Optus Cable and a network install
Hi all, I am still classifying myself as a NEWBIE but I am in need of a little help. I am about to help a friend of mine to put a RH6.2 system in as a server for the Optus Cable they have had installed. The box I am giving them is a P133 with 32Meg and a 1 Gig HDD and two network cards and a FDD. I am trying really hard to avoid the need to put a CDROM in the box as it will never be used again afterwards and I would hate to have to go out and buy one. I am wondering (I know it is possible) how I can setup a bootable floppy (or a few) to be able to do an Internet Install of RH6.2 with the necessary settings for using the OPTUS cable modem for this. I have Telstra cable and I know the setup is very different but I don't know ANYTHING about the Optus cable. Has anyone else ever tried this and can send me an image of the disk(s) or point in the right direction for a few session of RTFM. I would appreciate the assistance. Thanks, Daniel Brem. "That's right!" shouted Vroomfondel, "we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" HHGTTG Douglas Adams.
