Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:44, eurk-dsl wrote: Does anyone have any figures on how much M$ are helping the deficit each year in Australia? My personal guess is of the order of $2.5 billion per year. Imagine the impact on the balance of trade and therefore the wealth of the nation if M$ was taken out of the equation. If just the government used free software / open source the total savings we be in the order of $15 billion per year. Or to use other measures a brand new major teaching hospital in each capital city (6 x $1.5 billion) + $1 billion for higher education + $1 billion odd for land degradation / salinity + 1 billion for child care + a few billion for tax cuts / higher pensions. EVERY YEAR ! Every time you install SAMBA/Linux for example at a site, you've contributed to Australia's bottom line. Yes and if you use a triple bottom line if get even better!!! 1. Profits - Yes, it is much cheaper 2. Environmental - Yes, it improves the solutions for other people including poor people 3. People - Yes - Better educated as they can see the products (source) -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing - 113-115 Oxford St Darlinghurst Australia Phone: +(61-2) 9360 Fax +(61-2) 9361 0094 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
IIRC there is a SLUG member involved in some way with the Greens who said that the open source battle was lost to ignorance / indifference. On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 02:52, Mike Lake wrote: Yes, I was thinking of this on the weekend when I was looking at the Greens Policy's on their pages at http://www.greens.org.au (Click on Policies at the top of the page, there are 7 policies in total) I was surprised to see that they were generated with M$ Frontpage. meta name=GENERATOR content=Microsoft FrontPage 5.0 It may also be the fault of their web developer (yes, they could stipulate what tools are used). They of all the parties woud be most receptive to open source. Has anyone approached them about this I wonder. They would need a good grounding in the theory of open source and its impact with real world companies. It would fit in though with their other policies and their aims. -- Cheers, Craige. PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 05:04:38PM +1000, Craige McWhirter wrote: IIRC there is a SLUG member involved in some way with the Greens who said that the open source battle was lost to ignorance / indifference. and a fair bit of plain old stupidity I'd say too. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
Thus spake David Fitch: it doesn't really matter who owes who how much money, it's all just imaginery money (what are they going to do? foreclose on the country?) I beg to differ: The world needs trade, but not for products that have viable alternatives. 'Balance of Trade' which affects the wealth of a nation is a simple formula: export$ - import$ Countries do get foreclosed on. Ever been to a country called 'Newfoundland'? They got themselves in such a state as to be incorporated into Canada in 1933. Open source is a major boon to any government that is not a major exporter of software. Unfortunately, partly but not totally due to our government, we are in that position. Whilst we contribute buckets (technical measurement) of great open source code, not too many Aussie products are in the top 100 s/w sales. The German Govt are debating making Open Source a _requirement_ for purchase. What's ours doing? Writing tenders that basically force you use Microsoft products. Talk about shoot yourself in the foot. I still reckon that spare a $15Bn would be useful... Stuart Guthrie David Fitch wrote: while I completely agree that the govt should be using OSS and not contributing to M$' coffers, talking more generally about the balance of trade and a world view: 1) it doesn't really matter who owes who how much money, it's all just imaginery money (what are they going to do? foreclose on the country?) 2) if every country only bought products made in their own country (as they should do) then who would buy what we want to export? (ie. we're back to the days of little villages all acting independently) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Tar over SSH
Mike Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:37:40PM +, Herbert Xu wrote:
Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
only echo if bash is in interactive mode (don't know how you check
that off the top of my head. in tcsh you see if $prompt is defined)
[ ${-#*i} != $- ]
Oh geez ! IMHO a little obfuscated I think.
Thanks Jan and Steve, I shall try YOUR suggestions :-)
Obfuscated may be but the only technically correct solution IMHO :)
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Re: [SLUG] Corrupt deb system.
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Ken Foskey My system died and perl libraries have been corrupted. /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Defoma/IdCache.pm has too many errors. Debian, how do I force a reinstall on these libraries? Well, I'm not Debian, but I think I can answer your question for him/her/it. dpkg -i package.deb or, if you don't have the package handy (or if it's hiding in your apt cache and you couldn't be bothered tab completing your way in there): apt-get install package --reinstall Dear debian, But I did do a apt-get install perl --reinstall.Still broken. Yours KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, David Fitch wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:09:52AM +1000, Richard Hayes wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:44, eurk-dsl wrote: Does anyone have any figures on how much M$ are helping the deficit each year in Australia? My personal guess is of the order of $2.5 billion per year. while I completely agree that the govt should be using OSS and not contributing to M$' coffers, talking more generally about the balance of trade and a world view: 1) it doesn't really matter who owes who how much money, it's all just imaginery money (what are they going to do? foreclose on the country?) Ahem foreclose on counties? yes.. quite possible... send countries into spiralling inflation and economic collapses.. quite possible. Is this relevant for SLUG? YES. If we don't advocate a sensible alternative.. who will? OSS is a commodity, and carries with it a viable industry.. .support, installation, new software (far easier than under a proprietry model). Tell the stupid politicians now... if you don't do it at election time, when CAN you do it? They may not get the message this time, but maybe by next time the penny will drop. After all, the Liberals are making television commercials about Cheryl's $5000 stamp duty. Why not inform them about billions of dollars of software licences? David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Free PDF editing tools
Richard Hayes wrote on Fri Oct 12 14:48:02 2001 Dear List, I use ps2pdf to create PDFs. Is there any free /open source tools that allows me to edit a pdf file? I just came across pstoedit accidentlly and remembered you post Richard. pstoedit: Description: PostScript and PDF files to editable vector graphics converter. pstoedit converts Postscript and PDF files to various editable vector graphic formats including tgif, xfig, PDF graphics, gnuplot format, idraw, MetaPost, GNU Metafile, PIC, Killustrator and flattened PostScript. Google will help with finding da web site for it. I have a readme.txt describing it at work. Its quite neat. Mike -- Michael Lake Active caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. Safety Convenor, Australian Speleological Federation Owner, Speleonics (Australia) ^~^::^~^ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] imagemagick install
just trying to install imagemagick (and perlmagick) on a RH6.2 system from the binaries at my local imagemagick mirror. the imagemagick rpm wants bzip 1.0.0 - cool - but if i try: # rpm -Uvh bzip2-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm i get: error: failed dependencies: libbz2.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0.2-6x rpm-4.0.2-6x appears to be the latest around. is --force or --nodeps a realistic way to go? i've not used either before and would appreciate some sound advice :) thanks, chris paul -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] A problem getting ADSL to work
I have a client who has taken up an ADSL connection with Flow Comms and I am having the devil getting it working correctly. ASCII piccy Private network 192.168.1.0/24 | |-- 192.168.1.20 (234.234.234.235) eth0| (alias) - | 192.168.1.1 | | (234.234.234.234) | Linux Box |(alias)| | | | | | 172.24.1.2 | - eth1| | ^^^ ADSL Service Provider 172.24.1.1 ? ? The world out there The problem is how do I get masquerading to use the 234.234.234.234 address as if it on the outside interface rather than the 172.24.1.2 address which is the true interface address. Even if I re-alias the eth1 interface as 234.234.234.234 instead, it still don't work. If I ping from the Linux box to the outside world then nothing happens because it tries to use the 172.24.1.2 address as the source address and that doesn't work with the ADSL service provider, but if I force the ping to use the 234.234.234.234 address as its interface address (with the -I option) then success. I guess the 172.24.x.y address are only there just so that the modem and the DSLAM have an address each. Basically I need the 172.24.1.1 address to be the default gateway, but I always want the Linux Box to say that its interface address to that default gateway is 234.234.234.234 for the purposes of pinging and masquerading. Any ideas? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Bare-bones laptop
I seem to recall someone asking for details of any bare-bones laptops available, but I can't remember who it was or where it was. I think it was this list. Anyone recall if someone here was after such a laptop (no CPU/HDD)? I have located someone who can supply them, got the details for whoever it was. Gnuthad PGP Key Block available at: http://aussie.mine.nu/aussie/pgp_key.txt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: A problem getting ADSL to work
Except that this is not a bridged connection so it doesn't use PPP On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Well, if you're not going to use the 172.24.1.2, how about removing it altogether? If you use ifconfig to replace the local IP address with the 234.234.234.234, does that work? If so, you can force pppd to use it a the local IP address, using the local:remote syntax. HTH, -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] A problem getting ADSL to work
You could do what I did to get satellite working using an aliases address for outgoing stuff say it's eth0 and eth0:0 so route del default route add default gw 172.24.1.1 dev eth0:0 would do the trick. (well it works on ppp links, I can not see how it wouldn't work on ethernet) On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: I have a client who has taken up an ADSL connection with Flow Comms and I am having the devil getting it working correctly. ASCII piccy Private network 192.168.1.0/24 | |-- 192.168.1.20 (234.234.234.235) eth0| (alias) - | 192.168.1.1 | | (234.234.234.234) | Linux Box |(alias)| | | | | | 172.24.1.2 | - eth1| | ^^^ ADSL Service Provider 172.24.1.1 ? ? The world out there The problem is how do I get masquerading to use the 234.234.234.234 address as if it on the outside interface rather than the 172.24.1.2 address which is the true interface address. Even if I re-alias the eth1 interface as 234.234.234.234 instead, it still don't work. If I ping from the Linux box to the outside world then nothing happens because it tries to use the 172.24.1.2 address as the source address and that doesn't work with the ADSL service provider, but if I force the ping to use the 234.234.234.234 address as its interface address (with the -I option) then success. I guess the 172.24.x.y address are only there just so that the modem and the DSLAM have an address each. Basically I need the 172.24.1.1 address to be the default gateway, but I always want the Linux Box to say that its interface address to that default gateway is 234.234.234.234 for the purposes of pinging and masquerading. Any ideas? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] A problem getting ADSL to work
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:26:05PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: Basically I need the 172.24.1.1 address to be the default gateway, but I always want the Linux Box to say that its interface address to that default gateway is 234.234.234.234 for the purposes of pinging and masquerading. iptables? I think you want to modify the source address? I haven't tested this, but... iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth1 -s 172.24.1.1 -j SNAT --to 234.234.234.234 -- chesty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] imagemagick install
In instances like these, I have used the -ivh -force and -nodeps and then got the later rpm from the install cd and done an rpm -force on that rather than a -uvh so that you get the earlier library files and the later library files as well. Does that explain it well. It is not an ideal situation, I would love to have a rpm viewer/installer that allowed you to browse the rpm file (like winzip does allow you to view inside zip files) and extract only the file you need. This may or may/not exist, I am not sure. Chris -Original Message- From: cpaul To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/24/01 7:02 PM Subject: [SLUG] imagemagick install just trying to install imagemagick (and perlmagick) on a RH6.2 system from the binaries at my local imagemagick mirror. the imagemagick rpm wants bzip 1.0.0 - cool - but if i try: # rpm -Uvh bzip2-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm i get: error: failed dependencies: libbz2.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0.2-6x rpm-4.0.2-6x appears to be the latest around. is --force or --nodeps a realistic way to go? i've not used either before and would appreciate some sound advice :) thanks, chris paul -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] A problem getting ADSL to work
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:19:48AM +1000, chesty wrote: iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth1 -s 172.24.1.1 -j SNAT --to 234.234.234.234 sorry, it should be 172.24.1.2 not 172.24.1.1. -- chesty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] A problem getting ADSL to work
Opps one more thing to that diagram You will need to use eth1 as the interface with the alias. otherwise it won't work at all. Otherwise it will try and send the packets out the eth0 interface back onto your local lan. On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Jeffrey Borg wrote: You could do what I did to get satellite working using an aliases address for outgoing stuff say it's eth0 and eth0:0 so route del default route add default gw 172.24.1.1 dev eth0:0 would do the trick. (well it works on ppp links, I can not see how it wouldn't work on ethernet) On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: ASCII piccy Private network 192.168.1.0/24 | |-- 192.168.1.20 (234.234.234.235) eth0| (alias) - | 192.168.1.1 | | (234.234.234.234) | Linux Box |(alias)| | | | | | 172.24.1.2 | - eth1| | ^^^ ADSL Service Provider 172.24.1.1 ? ? The world out there -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Corrupt deb system.
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Ken Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Defoma/IdCache.pm has too many errors. : Dear debian, : : But I did do a apt-get install perl --reinstall.Still broken. Could be that file isnt provided by the package 'perl'. Try typing... dpkg -S /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Defoma/IdCache.pm to get the package name. /dopey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 06:00:02PM +1000, eurk-dsl wrote: Thus spake David Fitch: it doesn't really matter who owes who how much money, it's all just imaginery money (what are they going to do? foreclose on the country?) I beg to differ: The world needs trade, but not for products that have viable alternatives. that's not really different to my view 'Balance of Trade' which affects the wealth of a nation is a simple formula: export$ - import$ yeah I know, but I was trying to say that it doesn't matter (unless you're an economist/accountant I guess). Anyway perhaps I'm just showing my complete lack of interest (hence knowledge) about these things, I just find it impossible to get excited or worried about things like balance of trade and something account deficits etc. But as I said before, I agree the govt should be using OSS, or at the very least insisting on only using software compliant with common open standards (eg. the tax office making people use M$ shit for lodging electronic returns is a prime example). Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:04:08PM +1000, David wrote: Is this relevant for SLUG? YES. If we don't advocate a sensible alternative.. who will? OSS is a commodity, and carries with it a viable industry.. .support, installation, new software (far easier than under a proprietry model). Tell the stupid politicians now... if you don't do it at election time, when CAN you do it? They may not get the message this time, but maybe by next time the penny will drop. After all, the Liberals are making television commercials about Cheryl's $5000 stamp duty. Why not inform them about billions of dollars of software licences? voting for the liberals is completely out while bloody Dick Alston the minister against IT (and anything technical or innovative) is hanging around. Labor has the odd intelligent one like Kate Lundy but on the whole are no better. Democrats I have no idea what their position/ideas are on IT. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:48, David Fitch wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:04:08PM +1000, David wrote: Is this relevant for SLUG? YES. If we don't advocate a sensible alternative.. who will? OSS is a commodity, and carries with it a viable industry.. .support, installation, new software (far easier than under a proprietry model). Tell the stupid politicians now... if you don't do it at election time, when CAN you do it? They may not get the message this time, but maybe by next time the penny will drop. After all, the Liberals are making television commercials about Cheryl's $5000 stamp duty. Why not inform them about billions of dollars of software licences? voting for the liberals is completely out while bloody Dick Alston the minister against IT (and anything technical or innovative) is hanging around. Labor has the odd intelligent one like Kate Lundy but on the whole are no better. Democrats I have no idea what their position/ideas are on IT. You do not want to talk to the politicians but the policy makers. You need to speak to the 'bean counters ie Dept of Finance / Treasury / etc Even better Auditor General. -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing - 113-115 Oxford St Darlinghurst Australia Phone: +(61-2) 9360 Fax +(61-2) 9361 0094 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Lindows ? Is this a hoax or for real
http://www.lindows.com/index.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Lindows ? Is this a hoax or for real
Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: http://www.lindows.com/index.html Sounds like a good idea. There are heaps of useful programmes that only run on Windoze. The capability to run Win software and Linux software on one O/S could be a Microsoft killer! disclaimer: useful programmes does NOT include software from MS! -rick _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited Maybe you well excitement when you read the mail. Maybe you well consider that the E-mail is borbage. Internet be ahead one thousand dollar for one month. GoingPlatinumhard-won hap -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Interesting error
When searching M$'s knowledgebase today, this error was regurgitated on a simple word speed up keywork search; -- Server Error in '/' Application. The resource cannot be found. Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly. Requested Url: /search/default.aspx -- Now, cynical bastard that I am, this looks like their server is running some variant of *nix...:-) Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] XP launch
Anyone going to either session tomorrow for a laugh ? I'll be at the morning one if people want to arrange to meet and attend en masse, as it were... Something about safety in numbers...:[p) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Microsoft Quality Programming in C
I recall a few postings regarding Quality C Programming as described in a Microsoft text. The posting was perhaps on this list, about a week ago. I recall it being so funny and oxymoronic that I want the title of the book. Was this mentioned on SLUG or do I need a lobotomy? I couldn't find it in the archives. -rick _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited Maybe you well excitement when you read the mail. Maybe you well consider that the E-mail is borbage. Internet be ahead one thousand dollar for one month. GoingPlatinumhard-won hap -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Next SLUG Meeting - Friday, 26th October, 2001
Next SLUG Meeting - Friday, 26th October, 2001 * When: 6:30pm - about 9pm (then dinner, etc) * Where: UTS, Central Sydney: http://slug.org.au/slugmeet.shtml The Usual Suspects - 6:30pm * QA - What has Linux done for/to me lately? * Linux News Discussion Jeff on Practical LDAP Understanding, implementing and administering LDAP in a Free Software environment. LDAP is a standard protocol for directory services, which are commonly used for business information storage, centralised authentication and address books. But that's not all... Erik on The Problem of Casting from Floating Point Values to Integers and Why it Matters. You may have read one of Erik's great hacking books... Now you can hear him at SLUG! Dinner - about 9pm After the meeting at the House of Boiled Television Entrails. The real name is of course, The House of Guang Zhou, and you'll find it in Haymarket (especially if you follow the crowd at the end of the night). See you there! - Jeff -- Stay away from my house, you freak! Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons? - Neal Stephenson, ITBWTCL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: A problem getting ADSL to work
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:26:05PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: | 172.24.1.2 | - eth1| | ^^^ ADSL Service Provider 172.24.1.1 ? ? The world out there (not to scale) If I ping from the Linux box to the outside world then nothing happens because it tries to use the 172.24.1.2 address as the source address and that doesn't work with the ADSL service provider, but if I force the ping to use the 234.234.234.234 address as its interface address (with the -I option) then success. I guess the 172.24.x.y address are only there just so that the modem and the DSLAM have an address each. Well, if you're not going to use the 172.24.1.2, how about removing it altogether? If you use ifconfig to replace the local IP address with the 234.234.234.234, does that work? If so, you can force pppd to use it a the local IP address, using the local:remote syntax. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://svana.org/kleptog/ Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: if you have two of them, the third one comes free. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: A problem getting ADSL to work
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 06:50:32AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: Except that this is not a bridged connection so it doesn't use PPP Sorry, I'd assumed it was a PPPoE connection. -- Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://svana.org/kleptog/ Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: if you have two of them, the third one comes free. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
