Re: [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX motherboard?

2018-07-21 Thread Jason King
If you can, instead of disabling the cores in the BIOS, try to boot -kvd (kmdb 
w/ debug), and at the kmdb prompt, type “use_mp/W 0” to set use_mp to 0, then 
“:c” to continue the boot process.


From: Robert Fisher 
Reply: smartos-discuss@lists.smartos.org 
Date: July 21, 2018 at 5:03:32 PM
To: smartos-discuss@lists.smartos.org 
Subject:  Re: [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX 
motherboard?  

> t seems that there were three BIOS updates since your original February post 
> regarding the motherboard. Perhaps you can take a chance updating to the 
> latest BIOS?

I already tried that. No difference.

> Or perhaps you can downgrade to a known working one?
​
​That's the real kicker. I can't. You upgrade above some specific version, and 
you can't then go back below it. The "working" one was below that threshold. 
But, IIRC I *never* got SmartOS to run on this board. Only Solaris 11.

> How were you disabling the other cores?

BIOS.

​I have messed about with debug mode and kmdb, but I didn't get very far. When 
I initially reported the issue there seemed some interest in fixing it, but 
about two days later Meltdown and Spectre surfaced.

I would think that H110 and Skylake is far from an uncommon combination, and 
obviously the ideal solution for everyone would be to fix it. It's clearly 
something in the SunOS kernel. Linux, FreeBSD and OpenBSD all work perfectly. 
Solaris 10, SmartOS, Tribblix and OmniOS lock completely early in the boot 
process. Solaris 11.3 boots if only one core is exposed.

​If any kernel genius is interested in investigating, please talk to me. ​
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Re: [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX motherboard?

2018-07-21 Thread Robert Fisher
> t seems that there were three BIOS updates since your original February
post regarding the motherboard. Perhaps you can take a chance updating to
the latest BIOS?

I already tried that. No difference.

> Or perhaps you can downgrade to a known working one?
​
​That's the real kicker. I can't. You upgrade above some specific version,
and you can't then go back below it. The "working" one was below that
threshold. But, IIRC I *never* got SmartOS to run on this board. Only
Solaris 11.

> How were you disabling the other cores?

BIOS.

​I have messed about with debug mode and kmdb, but I didn't get very far.
When I initially reported the issue there seemed some interest in fixing
it, but about two days later Meltdown and Spectre surfaced.

I would think that H110 and Skylake is far from an uncommon combination,
and obviously the ideal solution for everyone would be to fix it. It's
clearly something in the SunOS kernel. Linux, FreeBSD and OpenBSD all work
perfectly. Solaris 10, SmartOS, Tribblix and OmniOS lock completely early
in the boot process. Solaris 11.3 boots if only one core is exposed.

​If any kernel genius is interested in investigating, please talk to me. ​



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Re: [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX motherboard?

2018-07-21 Thread Jason King
How were you disabling the other cores?  If not doing so from the BIOS, 
probably the easiest way on SmartOS to do it is to boot w/ kmdb (-kd in the 
boot args) and when KMDB loads, type ‘use_mp/W 0’ then ‘:c’ to continue.  If 
might also be useful to include the -v flag as well to see how far it’s getting 
in the boot process.


From: Robert Fisher 
Reply: smartos-discuss@lists.smartos.org 
Date: July 21, 2018 at 6:51:45 AM
To: smartos-discuss@lists.smartos.org 
Subject:  [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX 
motherboard?  

I've given up on the idea of any Illumos flavour ever running on my little home 
server, so I'm planning to swap out the main board.

The backstory of this is that I successfully ran Solaris 11 on it (encrypted 
ZFS -- I'm paranoid) and when I upgraded the BIOS (I know, never upgrade the 
BIOS, but I was hoping to fix a NIC oddity) it no longer booted. I found if I 
disabled all but one core, Solaris would still boot, and I still run it that 
way, which is pretty unsatisfactory. SmartOS will not boot whatever I do. All 
other unix-like OSes run fine across all cores. I have posted about this on the 
list before, but to no avail.

I don't want to buy a whole new machine, so I need a Mini ITX motherboard 
that'll take an i5 6400 (so 6th gen) CPU. Anyone got anything that's known to 
work? The one that doesn't is an ASUS H110I-Plus.


thanks in advance


Rob
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Re: [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX motherboard?

2018-07-21 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
I ran a SmartOS computenode on a 
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-8C-HLN4F.cfm for a 
few years.
Sadly it died earlier this year due to the hardware bug in the Avaton series 
CPU's.

Other that, the board and atom CPU performed decently. Not as powerfull 
compared to a 2x Ivy Bridge based board. But well enough given the hardware 
specs.

Regards

Jorge

July 21, 2018 7:25 PM, "Michal Nowak"  wrote:

> On 07/21/18 01:51 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:
> 
>> I've given up on the idea of any Illumos flavour ever running on my
>> little home server, so I'm planning to swap out the main board.
>> 
>> The backstory of this is that I successfully ran Solaris 11 on it
>> (encrypted ZFS -- I'm paranoid) and when I upgraded the BIOS (I know,
>> never upgrade the BIOS, but I was hoping to fix a NIC oddity) it no
>> longer booted. I found if I disabled all but one core, Solaris would
>> still boot, and I still run it that way, which is pretty unsatisfactory.
>> SmartOS will not boot whatever I do. All other unix-like OSes run fine
>> across all cores. I have posted about this on the list before, but to no
>> avail.
>> 
>> I don't want to buy a whole new machine, so I need a Mini ITX
>> motherboard that'll take an i5 6400 (so 6th gen) CPU. Anyone got
>> anything that's known to work? The one that doesn't is an ASUS H110I-Plus.
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> Rob
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> I don't know of a suitable mini ITX motherboard but it seems that there
> were three BIOS updates since your original February post regarding the
> motherboard. Perhaps you can take a chance updating to the latest BIOS?
> Or perhaps you can downgrade to a known working one?
> 
> Good luck,
> Michal
> 


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Re: [smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX motherboard?

2018-07-21 Thread Michal Nowak

On 07/21/18 01:51 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:
I've given up on the idea of any Illumos flavour ever running on my 
little home server, so I'm planning to swap out the main board.


The backstory of this is that I successfully ran Solaris 11 on it 
(encrypted ZFS -- I'm paranoid) and when I upgraded the BIOS (I know, 
never upgrade the BIOS, but I was hoping to fix a NIC oddity) it no 
longer booted. I found if I disabled all but one core, Solaris would 
still boot, and I still run it that way, which is pretty unsatisfactory. 
SmartOS will not boot whatever I do. All other unix-like OSes run fine 
across all cores. I have posted about this on the list before, but to no 
avail.


I don't want to buy a whole new machine, so I need a Mini ITX 
motherboard that'll take an i5 6400 (so 6th gen) CPU. Anyone got 
anything that's known to work? The one that doesn't is an ASUS H110I-Plus.



thanks in advance


Rob


Hi Rob,

I don't know of a suitable mini ITX motherboard but it seems that there 
were three BIOS updates since your original February post regarding the 
motherboard. Perhaps you can take a chance updating to the latest BIOS? 
Or perhaps you can downgrade to a known working one?


Good luck,
Michal


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[smartos-discuss] anyone know a SmartOS friendly Mini-ITX motherboard?

2018-07-21 Thread Robert Fisher
I've given up on the idea of any Illumos flavour ever running on my little
home server, so I'm planning to swap out the main board.

The backstory of this is that I successfully ran Solaris 11 on it
(encrypted ZFS -- I'm paranoid) and when I upgraded the BIOS (I know, never
upgrade the BIOS, but I was hoping to fix a NIC oddity) it no longer
booted. I found if I disabled all but one core, Solaris would still boot,
and I still run it that way, which is pretty unsatisfactory. SmartOS will
not boot whatever I do. All other unix-like OSes run fine across all cores.
I have posted about this on the list before, but to no avail.

I don't want to buy a whole new machine, so I need a Mini ITX motherboard
that'll take an i5 6400 (so 6th gen) CPU. Anyone got anything that's known
to work? The one that doesn't is an ASUS H110I-Plus.


thanks in advance


Rob



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