[RCSE] Fuses

2001-03-29 Thread WILBYERS

All,

SE Modeler Magazine has a few fuselages and kits left in stock that we want 
to blow out. As a result, we will sell all at our cost, without shipping 
costs from Germany.

The fuselages and kits we have in stock are:

1/3 scale ASW-27 Kit
1/3.6 scale L-Spatz Kit
1/3 scale Elfe S-4A Fuselage
1/3 scale ASH-25 Fuselage
1/4 scale Twin Astir Fuselage
1/3 scale Discus Fuselage
1/5 scale ASW-20

We are also starting to assemble new orders but they will be sold at the 
current cost based on rates of exchange at the time of purchase.

Call for pricing.

Kiona Publishing, Inc. / SE Modeler Magazine
Wil Byers - Sales
P.O. Box 4250
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Re: [RCSE] Official rule change for F3B/J

2001-03-29 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne



It would seem to me that it would have been simpler 
and possibly safer to require attaching a parachute of some minimum diameter to 
any object made of metal or weighing more than a few ounces. If the line breaks 
or the device (stake) comes loose the parachute will quickly dissipate the 
energy.

Anker

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James V. 
  Bacus 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:16 
  PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Official rule change for 
  F3B/J
  Here's the official word from the FAI mail list...
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From: "FAI Secretariat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CIAM, Information" 
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"FAI Active Members" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Associate 
Members FAI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
"Temporary Members FAI" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:42 PM Subject: CIAM Safety Notice 
2001-03-26-1  
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  CIAM Home Page: http://www.fai.org/aeromodelling/  
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  The FAI Model Aircraft Commission has for safety reasons 
decided to  introduce the following amendment, as approved by the 
Chairman of the  CIAM RC-Soaring Subcommittee, to the Sporting Code 
concerning classes  F3B  F3J :   F3B  
5.3.2.2.b.a.3. replace the last sentence of the first line to read:  
"It is prohibited to attach the line to the ground or to any fixed  
object (Whilst hand towing)".   F3J  5.6.8.2. add 
after the first sentence:  "It is prohibited to attach the line to 
the ground or to any fixed  object (Whilst hand towing)".  
  The purpose of this rule change is to eliminate dangerous 
devices like  stakes or pins when hand towing RC gliders.  
 Volume F3BJ of Section 4 of the FAI Sporting Code now includes 
these  amendments. It is available for downloading at  http://www.fai.org/aeromodelling/documents/sc4.asp 
  This amendment is effective 26 March 2001. You are asked 
to circulate  this notice to all people concerned in your country. 
 
  JimDowners Grove, ILMember of Chicago SOAR clubICQ 
  6997780 R/C Soaring Page at http://www.mcs.net/~bacuslab/soaring.html


[RCSE] Need Help finding Profiles

2001-03-29 Thread Bill H


I am looking for Acad, DFX or accurate 3-view scale profile drawings of the 
P51 and or ME-109. I would like to make templates to cut epp for a slope 
plane. Anyone know where I can obtain these files or drawing.

Thanks
Bill

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Re: [RCSE] extreme extreme extremely boring - oh yeah!

2001-03-29 Thread darylp

Having someone build their own ships for them, you mean?

Now wait a minute! One of these guys shaped his own fuse plug, pulled a nose cone mold 
and fuse mold, shaped and molded an inner
nosecone mold. Used these molds to build his own fuse. This same guy bagged his stabs, 
bagged his rudder. The wing molds - sanded,
polished and waxed for tens of hours prepping these for pulling parts. (Brian Buas 
helped rubbing and buffing.) Then - worked side
by side as the wings were being molded. I admit, I had some help. Brian McClean came 
down to do the lay-up on the wings.  I was
running out of time. He did a great job!

I now have all the components to complete the first proto. Going into build out -  
servo installation frenzy in the next couple of
days. Hopefully I'll be able to fly the first proto this weekend, probably late Sunday 
afternoon at my local slope. That is, of
course, if the foamies will give me a 10 minute window. ;-)

The model looks pretty impressive - 132" span, and the stiffest set of components I've 
ever seen. It's definitely not light, but it
is stout!

I do need some help from a machinist out there. Need a steel joiner machined. Norm, 
can ya help me out?

Anyone willing to help me out with a joiner, please e-me. I'll give you dimensions. It 
needs to be cut, not bent due to the wing
mounting system.

Thanks for all your support,

D

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Boy are you wrong here...Mr Perkins and Mr Wurts/Peters are in fact both
  world champs and they are both in fact building thier own ships...so there.
   

 Having someone build their own ships for them, you mean?

 Norm
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RE: [RCSE] Foam cutter question

2001-03-29 Thread Kiburis, Richard A

That's why you do a trial run on the table and adjust accordingly(you cut
that part off!).

-Original Message-
From: Bonfiglio Tullio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Albert Long
Cc: soaring list
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Foam cutter question


 From: Albert Long[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Now lets say you want to cut a wing with a 10 in. root chord and a 5 in. 
 tip
 cord. Divide 10 into 5 and get .5. Put root pull string at 36 and the tip
 pull string at 18 (.5 x 36). ..
 
 That would be correct, if you could attach your pull wires (clip
 attachment 
 point on a setup like the FeatherCut) at the exact end of the foam blank, 
 but that can not be done.
 
 You will have to attach your pull points, slightly outboard of that point.
 
 Farther out on a heavy tapered panel.
 
 You should then work out the cord at the point of pull attachment.
 
 On a highly tapered panel, you should cut to a point and pull the wire
 from 
 one end only.
 
 That inch or two can make a big difference.
 
 AL
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Hi, Al,

You couldn't be more correct.
BTW I have prepared a small downloadable Excel file in my site in order to
calculate that "big difference". To be honest this file should be adopted to
calculate the correct template length if you keep them far (1-2 cm) from the
foam during the cut, but nothing impedes to use this file for this purpose.

Ciao.
Tullio.


Ing. Tullio BONFIGLIO
Ansaldo Energia
16152 Genoa  -  ITALY
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[RCSE] template question

2001-03-29 Thread Douglas, Brent

ok, i am very new to foamcutting, eg havent yet.

i was wondering how people make their templates i saw some of the
suggested materials on acp's / cst's websites, but i am just looking for
real world (if we are really representative of that) feedback.

thanks in advance!

brent douglas
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Re: [RCSE] DLG Wingtip Peg Optimization?

2001-03-29 Thread Chuck Rodent

Here is my page with the last 2 DLG's built, including peg pictures.  BTW, a 
peg is a non-retractable asymmetric wingtip spoileron :)

http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Halfpipe/4579/spincycle.html

Warren

From: "Brian Turner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] DLG Wingtip Peg Optimization?
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:55:03 -0600


Does anyone have any pics they can e-mail or post showing us your version 
of
the peg?

Thanks,
Brian
Montgomery, AL


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Re: [RCSE] Toledo DEAL!

2001-03-29 Thread Bag Lady Al


Hi Tom
Al
I caught that also.
Hey Karlton
I'll take a Container full of 10 cell packs for $15.00.
Also a Container of 7 cell packs, Cool!
Any one would like to go in half's?
Cheers.
Al
Tom Broeski wrote:
You may want to say $15 each...
Karlton Spindle wrote:
For an extra $15.00 get as many extra batteries
as you want.

TG http://adesigner.com/invention
32 Mount View Dr.
Afton, VA 22920
540 943-3356 Fax 540 943-4178




[RCSE] Ontario CA Sloping

2001-03-29 Thread KSS0AR1

Hi Gang,

It looks like I nmay have to be in the Ontario CA area between 5/9 and 5/13 
and was wondering how close this area is to some of the slope sites such as 
Parker, Cajon, Vincent, etc.  I would probably have time on Saturday and 
Sunday to fly.  Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS
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RE: [RCSE] Foam cutter question

2001-03-29 Thread Chuck Anderson

At 08:29 AM 3/29/2001 -0600, you wrote:
Now lets say you want to cut a wing with a 10 in. root chord and a 5 in. 
tip
cord. Divide 10 into 5 and get .5. Put root pull string at 36 and the tip
pull string at 18 (.5 x 36). ..

That would be correct, if you could attach your pull wires (clip attachment 
point on a setup like the FeatherCut) at the exact end of the foam blank, 
but that can not be done.

You will have to attach your pull points, slightly outboard of that point. 
Farther out on a heavy tapered panel.

You should then work out the cord at the point of pull attachment.

On a highly tapered panel, you should cut to a point and pull the wire from 
one end only.

That inch or two can make a big difference.

AL

My Airfoil Plot and Model Design programs both calculate the pull wire
attachment point on the drop bar for Tecoa style foam cutters if the root
chord, tip chord, span, and distance from the template to the pull wire
attachment are entered.  If you can't afford to buy the program, then the
demo Model Design program can do the calculation.  You just won't be able
to plot a full sized template.  The demo program can be downloaded from
Dream Catcher web site at http://www.dchobby.com/airfoil/


Chuck Anderson
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[RCSE] JR X-388S Manual Source? and other HELP, please.

2001-03-29 Thread Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner

A pal of mine recently got a batch of used RC gear for free and is sorting
through it. I'm playing the role of mentoring him into the hobby, mostly
glider, maybe a little electric.
Included in this rather nice haul of planes and gear is a JR X-388S radio,
not used in at least a year.

1)Anyone have ideas about where to get our hands on a manual for it?

2)What type of memory system does it have, and if it is lithium battery
based, what's involved in trying to assure that things are ready to use and
that we're not at the end of the life of that battery?

Any other comments about the useability, programmability, or other features,
pros, and cons of this unit would be welcome. He (we) will be using it in
glider and perhaps electric applications. I'll be happy to forward onlist or
offlist responses to my pal, as he is not a list member (yet).

Thanks all,

Lift,
Scobie in Seattle

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[RCSE] Rubber Ducky Antenna

2001-03-29 Thread George Voss

I just got off the phone with the manufacturer and the
prices for 'rubber ducky' antenna are going up.  I'm allowed
to make one order at the old price.  So, if you want a
rubber ducky antenna at the old price of $24 for non ball
mount, or $20 for ball mount, please contact me ASAP.  I'll
place the order NLT friday.  Color choices are black, red,
light blue, pink and yellow.

Ball mount antenna will fit Stylus, JR and MPX Profi radios
that use a screw on antenna.

Non ball mount use an adapter and a BNC connector.  Typical
radios that will use this type are Vision and most Futaba
radios.

Shipping is not included in the above prices.

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[RCSE] 2 sided mylar???

2001-03-29 Thread d s


I bought some mylar from taylor collins a while back. I'm getting ready
to bag some wings and this local yoko tells me there's a smoother side
to it. I cant see or feel the difference. Does anyone have any information
on this.
ds.
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Re: [RCSE] extreme extreme extremely boring - oh yeah!

2001-03-29 Thread Rick Eckel

So what's your point?  You didn't use any balsa ribs, you didn't use any 
covering like silkspan, tissue or monocote.  The wing probably isn't bent 
in the middle and doesn't have any saggy areas between the ribs.  How can 
you say you build your own planes when you haven't done any of those things???

Cripes, I'll bet you even want credit for building when you when ahead and 
put flaps and ailerons on the thing!  Installing servos inside the WINGS, 
for gosh sakes, cannot be considered building...

Rick
"Sarcasm from Orlando"




  At 07:10 AM 3/29/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having someone build their own ships for them, you mean?

Now wait a minute! One of these guys shaped his own fuse plug, pulled a 
nose cone mold and fuse mold, shaped and molded an inner
nosecone mold. Used these molds to build his own fuse. This same guy 
bagged his stabs, bagged his rudder. The wing molds - sanded,
polished and waxed for tens of hours prepping these for pulling parts. 
(Brian Buas helped rubbing and buffing.) Then - worked side
by side as the wings were being molded. I admit, I had some help. Brian 
McClean came down to do the lay-up on the wings.  I was
running out of time. He did a great job!

I now have all the components to complete the first proto. Going into 
build out -  servo installation frenzy in the next couple of
days. Hopefully I'll be able to fly the first proto this weekend, probably 
late Sunday afternoon at my local slope. That is, of
course, if the foamies will give me a 10 minute window. ;-)

The model looks pretty impressive - 132" span, and the stiffest set of 
components I've ever seen. It's definitely not light, but it
is stout!

I do need some help from a machinist out there. Need a steel joiner 
machined. Norm, can ya help me out?

Anyone willing to help me out with a joiner, please e-me. I'll give you 
dimensions. It needs to be cut, not bent due to the wing
mounting system.

Thanks for all your support,

D

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   Boy are you wrong here...Mr Perkins and Mr Wurts/Peters are in fact both
   world champs and they are both in fact building thier own ships...so 
 there.

 
  Having someone build their own ships for them, you mean?
 
  Norm
  PBSS
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Re: [RCSE] extreme extreme extremely boring - oh yeah!

2001-03-29 Thread Charles Eaton

It's not nice to attack Master Yoda.  The dark side is in you.
- Original Message -
From: "Rick Eckel" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] extreme extreme extremely boring - oh yeah!


 So what's your point?  You didn't use any balsa ribs, you didn't use any
 covering like silkspan, tissue or monocote.  The wing probably isn't bent
 in the middle and doesn't have any saggy areas between the ribs.  How can
 you say you build your own planes when you haven't done any of those
things???

 Cripes, I'll bet you even want credit for building when you when ahead and
 put flaps and ailerons on the thing!  Installing servos inside the WINGS,
 for gosh sakes, cannot be considered building...

 Rick
 "Sarcasm from Orlando"




   At 07:10 AM 3/29/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Having someone build their own ships for them, you mean?
 
 Now wait a minute! One of these guys shaped his own fuse plug, pulled a
 nose cone mold and fuse mold, shaped and molded an inner
 nosecone mold. Used these molds to build his own fuse. This same guy
 bagged his stabs, bagged his rudder. The wing molds - sanded,
 polished and waxed for tens of hours prepping these for pulling parts.
 (Brian Buas helped rubbing and buffing.) Then - worked side
 by side as the wings were being molded. I admit, I had some help. Brian
 McClean came down to do the lay-up on the wings.  I was
 running out of time. He did a great job!
 
 I now have all the components to complete the first proto. Going into
 build out -  servo installation frenzy in the next couple of
 days. Hopefully I'll be able to fly the first proto this weekend,
probably
 late Sunday afternoon at my local slope. That is, of
 course, if the foamies will give me a 10 minute window. ;-)
 
 The model looks pretty impressive - 132" span, and the stiffest set of
 components I've ever seen. It's definitely not light, but it
 is stout!
 
 I do need some help from a machinist out there. Need a steel joiner
 machined. Norm, can ya help me out?
 
 Anyone willing to help me out with a joiner, please e-me. I'll give you
 dimensions. It needs to be cut, not bent due to the wing
 mounting system.
 
 Thanks for all your support,
 
 D
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
Boy are you wrong here...Mr Perkins and Mr Wurts/Peters are in fact
both
world champs and they are both in fact building thier own ships...so
  there.
 
  
   Having someone build their own ships for them, you mean?
  
   Norm
   PBSS
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[RCSE] F3J?

2001-03-29 Thread Charles Miller

The times they are a changin (Bob Dylan)


Lots of interesting comments concerning the rule (or proposed rule
change?)
I think it will be something we will have to address. Go with the flow!
Make it work!! If  we want to fly F3J.
I know everyone isn't into F3J,  But for us who are? Good positive
consideration is needed..

I will agree! It is a bit over reacting to shut down everything because
on one incident. Stuff happens in all sports and hobbies It is very
unfortunate that this happened.. I feel for the friends and family !
This is to allot of people just a hobby..  This isn't suppose to happen!

But when you get a bunch of very competitive pilots together and compete
at a fairly aggressive level. Then its a sport...
Personally I think there are a few more possibilities of something
happening with two men towing. Either apposeing tow's , Or formation
tow's//

There is allot of change going on in our sport.. Look at hand launch!
The International will be a whole new ball game this year... Something
to try and keep up with!!!

The gliders for Unlimited,F3J,F3b they all change,, Another thing to
keep up with,,

Glider clubs loosing their fields all over the country... Another thing
to keep up with,,,

I think this sport could be in danger due to lack of land !!!  Its just
to pricey to have for a hobby!!!
Or someone just doesn't like it So move it!!  People can be that
way.. Hell! we get people who build a house next to an airport and then
complain about the noise!!  Want to move the airport!!

So it seems like we are at the mercy of many things that can effect
us.  We need to adjust the best we can. Or we may just go nuts!

Cheers
Charlie


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