RE: OT: "Hollywood greatest trick" - Documentary

[Angus Davidson]

Very much the same here at Wits.

From: Jonathan Moore [jonathan.moo...@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 February 2017 11:35 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: "Hollywood greatest trick" - Documentary

The business practices of VFX has meant that I do all I can to advise the 
students I work with at Univerity of the Arts (London) to look at motion design 
as a career choice rather than VFX. It's not just about the issues discussed in 
Hollywood's Greatest Trick; it's about having an ability to be a rounded artist 
rather than a cog in a sausage factory.

On 23 February 2017 at 20:58, Pierre Schiller 
> wrote:
I still don't get the gameplsy with the tax incentives from or to canada. If 
there's a chance to deep the subject, let's share some points of view.

Regards.

On Feb 23, 2017 3:28 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" 
> wrote:
Just shared it.
Personnaly I blacklisted every Paris ad agencies.

2017-02-23 4:55 GMT+01:00 Pierre Schiller 
>:
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/vfx/watch-hollywoods-greatest-trick-24-minute-documentary-unsustainable-vfx-industry-148981.html

Whenever anyone feels it´s time to share thoughts, let´s read them :)

"A few vfx artist on a union vs a political well organized company"
Geez...talking about boot and ants.


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Re: Getting close to a 3 year old EOL annyversary

[Tenshi Sama]

Amen.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Pierre Schiller <
activemotionpictu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But...who's counting
> Anyways.. Thought about all those college students who started to train in
> 2014 wih SI and had to switch sides to Ma or Max.
>
> thanks to Foundry and SideFx who really have comprehended what it's
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Re: slowing down particles

[Kris Rivel]

Thanks guys...I was able to get it to work using a multiply by scalar on
particle velocity at the end of the tree. Problem was I was using the "em
turbulize" node/plugin and that wasn't playing nice with the velocity set
so I just made my own noise. Works good enough for now!

Kris

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Christopher McCabe <
christopher.mccabe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Excuse my post... I have not used XSI in over a year now. But I *think*
> you could plot the particles with a "shape" plot? Then adjust the speed
> once you bring it back in as a animation clip.
>
> I had to do this to slow down a syflex simulation. Should work the same
> for your situation?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Sven Constable 
> wrote:
>
>> If you plug in into the last ICE port just before the Simulate Particles
>> node it should override the other stuff. Or create another ICE tree below
>> all others (if you have more than one, driving the particles).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:05 PM
>>
>> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list
>> *Subject:* Re: slowing down particles
>>
>>
>>
>> no I have other noise stuff going on that ignores that. Wish there was a
>> global effect I could use.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Sven Constable 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe just using a drag force?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:28 PM
>> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list
>> *Subject:* Re: slowing down particles
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes ice particles...that kind of does it but I have them emitting so its
>> doing it based on age...new particles are still moving quickly. I want to
>> slow all of them down globally.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Eric Thivierge 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity
>> > Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.
>>
>>
>> 
>> Eric Thivierge
>> http://www.ethivierge.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:
>>
>> I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I
>> want to slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible?
>> I want a gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.
>>
>> Kris
>>
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Re: slowing down particles

[Christopher McCabe]

Excuse my post... I have not used XSI in over a year now. But I *think* you
could plot the particles with a "shape" plot? Then adjust the speed once
you bring it back in as a animation clip.

I had to do this to slow down a syflex simulation. Should work the same for
your situation?



On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Sven Constable 
wrote:

> If you plug in into the last ICE port just before the Simulate Particles
> node it should override the other stuff. Or create another ICE tree below
> all others (if you have more than one, driving the particles).
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
> listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:05 PM
>
> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://groups.google.com/
> forum/#!forum/xsi_list
> *Subject:* Re: slowing down particles
>
>
>
> no I have other noise stuff going on that ignores that. Wish there was a
> global effect I could use.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Sven Constable 
> wrote:
>
> Maybe just using a drag force?
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
> listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:28 PM
> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://groups.google.com/
> forum/#!forum/xsi_list
> *Subject:* Re: slowing down particles
>
>
>
> Yes ice particles...that kind of does it but I have them emitting so its
> doing it based on age...new particles are still moving quickly. I want to
> slow all of them down globally.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Eric Thivierge 
> wrote:
>
> If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity >
> Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.
>
>
> 
> Eric Thivierge
> http://www.ethivierge.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:
>
> I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I
> want to slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible?
> I want a gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.
>
> Kris
>
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RE: slowing down particles

[Sven Constable]

If you plug in into the last ICE port just before the Simulate Particles node 
it should override the other stuff. Or create another ICE tree below all others 
(if you have more than one, driving the particles).

 

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
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Subject: Re: slowing down particles

 

no I have other noise stuff going on that ignores that. Wish there was a global 
effect I could use.

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Sven Constable  
wrote:

Maybe just using a drag force? 

 

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:28 PM
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Subject: Re: slowing down particles

 

Yes ice particles...that kind of does it but I have them emitting so its doing 
it based on age...new particles are still moving quickly. I want to slow all of 
them down globally.

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Eric Thivierge  wrote:

If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity > 
Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.





Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:

I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I want to 
slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible? I want a 
gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.

Kris


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Re: slowing down particles

[Kris Rivel]

no I have other noise stuff going on that ignores that. Wish there was a
global effect I could use.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Sven Constable 
wrote:

> Maybe just using a drag force?
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
> listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:28 PM
> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://groups.google.com/
> forum/#!forum/xsi_list
> *Subject:* Re: slowing down particles
>
>
>
> Yes ice particles...that kind of does it but I have them emitting so its
> doing it based on age...new particles are still moving quickly. I want to
> slow all of them down globally.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Eric Thivierge 
> wrote:
>
> If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity >
> Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.
>
>
> 
> Eric Thivierge
> http://www.ethivierge.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:
>
> I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I
> want to slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible?
> I want a gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.
>
> Kris
>
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Re: OT: "Hollywood greatest trick" - Documentary

[Jonathan Moore]

The business practices of VFX has meant that I do all I can to advise the
students I work with at Univerity of the Arts (London) to look at motion
design as a career choice rather than VFX. It's not just about the issues
discussed in Hollywood's Greatest Trick; it's about having an ability to be
a rounded artist rather than a cog in a sausage factory.

On 23 February 2017 at 20:58, Pierre Schiller <
activemotionpictu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still don't get the gameplsy with the tax incentives from or to canada.
> If there's a chance to deep the subject, let's share some points of view.
>
> Regards.
>
> On Feb 23, 2017 3:28 AM, "Olivier Jeannel"  wrote:
>
>> Just shared it.
>> Personnaly I blacklisted every Paris ad agencies.
>>
>> 2017-02-23 4:55 GMT+01:00 Pierre Schiller > >:
>>
>>> http://www.cartoonbrew.com/vfx/watch-hollywoods-greatest-tri
>>> ck-24-minute-documentary-unsustainable-vfx-industry-148981.html
>>>
>>> Whenever anyone feels it´s time to share thoughts, let´s read them :)
>>>
>>> "A few vfx artist on a union vs a political well organized company"
>>> Geez...talking about boot and ants.
>>>
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RE: slowing down particles

[Sven Constable]

Maybe just using a drag force? 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:28 PM
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Subject: Re: slowing down particles

 

Yes ice particles...that kind of does it but I have them emitting so its doing 
it based on age...new particles are still moving quickly. I want to slow all of 
them down globally.

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Eric Thivierge  wrote:

If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity > 
Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.





Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:

I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I want to 
slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible? I want a 
gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.

Kris


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Re: slowing down particles

[Kris Rivel]

Yes ice particles...that kind of does it but I have them emitting so its
doing it based on age...new particles are still moving quickly. I want to
slow all of them down globally.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Eric Thivierge 
wrote:

> If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity >
> Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.
>
> 
> Eric Thivierge
> http://www.ethivierge.com
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:
>
>> I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I
>> want to slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible?
>> I want a gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.
>>
>> Kris
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Re: slowing down particles

[Eric Thivierge]

If you're talking ICE particles then you could get the particle velocity >
Mulitply Scalar (0.9) > set particle velocity or something like that.


Eric Thivierge
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Kris Rivel  wrote:

> I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I
> want to slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible?
> I want a gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.
>
> Kris
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slowing down particles

[Kris Rivel]

I have a nice effect for my particles...some turbulent snow. But now I want
to slowly slow them down till they freeze in place. Is this possible? I
want a gradual deceleration till they're locked in space.

Kris
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Re: OT: "Hollywood greatest trick" - Documentary

[Pierre Schiller]

I still don't get the gameplsy with the tax incentives from or to canada.
If there's a chance to deep the subject, let's share some points of view.

Regards.

On Feb 23, 2017 3:28 AM, "Olivier Jeannel"  wrote:

> Just shared it.
> Personnaly I blacklisted every Paris ad agencies.
>
> 2017-02-23 4:55 GMT+01:00 Pierre Schiller 
> :
>
>> http://www.cartoonbrew.com/vfx/watch-hollywoods-greatest-tri
>> ck-24-minute-documentary-unsustainable-vfx-industry-148981.html
>>
>> Whenever anyone feels it´s time to share thoughts, let´s read them :)
>>
>> "A few vfx artist on a union vs a political well organized company"
>> Geez...talking about boot and ants.
>>
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Getting close to a 3 year old EOL annyversary

[Pierre Schiller]

But...who's counting
Anyways.. Thought about all those college students who started to train in
2014 wih SI and had to switch sides to Ma or Max.

thanks to Foundry and SideFx who really have comprehended what it's
like to have a tech career and reediming knowledge to their softaware (at
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Re: houdini 16

[Jonathan Moore]

I take it all back. Emperor's new clothes syndrome with the new boolean
tools. They're as nasty to your geometry as ever they were.  ;)

On the other hand, they're ace as cutting planes for destruction shots
where good surfacing doesn't matter so much.

On 23 February 2017 at 16:00, Jonathan Moore 
wrote:

> For non deforming geometry the new boolean tools are ace. Just be sure you
> don't have them set as "Render Polygons as Subdivision' in Mantra or
> similar in Redshift. You'll end up with a garbled mess if you do!
>
> It seems an obvious thing to say but years of doing things the SubD way
> can makes you forget that NGon's and triangles are fine, you just have to
> work with them differently.
>
> On 23 February 2017 at 07:49, Mirko Jankovic 
> wrote:
>
>> Here what support explained to me.
>> With 3 indie licences and 3 houdini engine inidie licences you can render
>> on 6 machines.
>> Because there is limit of 3 per studio so you buy 3 indie licences and 3
>> engines are free.
>> And with ofc using your own redshift licences you can render on all 6
>> machines.
>> Makes sense?
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:09 AM, phil harbath <
>> phil.harb...@jamination.com> wrote:
>>
>>> if you had 2 or 3 copies of indie could you use royal render to render
>>> over a network or do you need core or FX to do that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I assume you only need 1 copy of Core or FX to render (say X
>>> copies of Redshift) on X computers on a network.
>>>
>>> thanks
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Re: houdini 16

[Jonathan Moore]

For non deforming geometry the new boolean tools are ace. Just be sure you
don't have them set as "Render Polygons as Subdivision' in Mantra or
similar in Redshift. You'll end up with a garbled mess if you do!

It seems an obvious thing to say but years of doing things the SubD way can
makes you forget that NGon's and triangles are fine, you just have to work
with them differently.

On 23 February 2017 at 07:49, Mirko Jankovic 
wrote:

> Here what support explained to me.
> With 3 indie licences and 3 houdini engine inidie licences you can render
> on 6 machines.
> Because there is limit of 3 per studio so you buy 3 indie licences and 3
> engines are free.
> And with ofc using your own redshift licences you can render on all 6
> machines.
> Makes sense?
> ᐧ
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:09 AM, phil harbath  > wrote:
>
>> if you had 2 or 3 copies of indie could you use royal render to render
>> over a network or do you need core or FX to do that?
>>
>>
>> Also, I assume you only need 1 copy of Core or FX to render (say X copies
>> of Redshift) on X computers on a network.
>>
>> thanks
>> Phil
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Re: Soft to Houdini custom shelf / scripts.

[Oscar Juarez]

Also you can visualize time dependency, it will make the nodes glow a very
visible green, it's very useful to optimize your networks.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Dan Yargici  wrote:

> Quick tip, Jason.
>
> You can middle click on any node in SOPs and at the bottom it will tell
> you if it's a time dependent cook or not.  If it's not, the result is
> cached and the branch is only reevaluated on a change upstream.
>
> DAN
>
> Sent from my phone...
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> On 22 Feb 2017 8:09 pm, "Jason S"  wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay that's reassuring, was wondering because there didn't seem to be a
>> point to locking elements that didn't change over time,
>> if it wasn't for performance reason, if all operations remained anyways
>> while just increasing filesize.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On 02/22/17 2:46, Jordi Bares wrote:
>>
>> No, cooking is evaluated in a very optimised way so no dumb cooking.
>>
>> If a network is not needed for display or as a result of other network it
>> won't be evaluated.
>>
>> Jb
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 22 Feb 2017, at 03:08, Jason S  wrote:
>>
>>
>> So things are cooked every frame unless explicitly specified not to?
>> Even if nothing changes except perhaps regular transforms?
>> (with no deforms)
>>
>> Also is there a command log to easily script things such as in this
>> case,  an export/import button?
>>
>>
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Re: Soft to Houdini custom shelf / scripts.

[Dan Yargici]

Quick tip, Jason.

You can middle click on any node in SOPs and at the bottom it will tell you
if it's a time dependent cook or not.  If it's not, the result is cached
and the branch is only reevaluated on a change upstream.

DAN

Sent from my phone...

On 22 Feb 2017 8:09 pm, "Jason S"  wrote:

>
> Okay that's reassuring, was wondering because there didn't seem to be a
> point to locking elements that didn't change over time,
> if it wasn't for performance reason, if all operations remained anyways
> while just increasing filesize.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 02/22/17 2:46, Jordi Bares wrote:
>
> No, cooking is evaluated in a very optimised way so no dumb cooking.
>
> If a network is not needed for display or as a result of other network it
> won't be evaluated.
>
> Jb
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 22 Feb 2017, at 03:08, Jason S  wrote:
>
>
> So things are cooked every frame unless explicitly specified not to?  Even
> if nothing changes except perhaps regular transforms?
> (with no deforms)
>
> Also is there a command log to easily script things such as in this case,
> an export/import button?
>
>
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Re: OT: "Hollywood greatest trick" - Documentary

[Olivier Jeannel]

Just shared it.
Personnaly I blacklisted every Paris ad agencies.

2017-02-23 4:55 GMT+01:00 Pierre Schiller :

> http://www.cartoonbrew.com/vfx/watch-hollywoods-greatest-
> trick-24-minute-documentary-unsustainable-vfx-industry-148981.html
>
> Whenever anyone feels it´s time to share thoughts, let´s read them :)
>
> "A few vfx artist on a union vs a political well organized company"
> Geez...talking about boot and ants.
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