Re: Softimage/Maya 2105 worth?

[Pierre Schiller]

I am forgetting basic stuff such modeling shortcuts, since most of the time
I'm dedicated to tame Blender. 17 different editors/interacion modes are
nothing short for a generalist...all for the big change october this year,
then the planet will know if it was all worth the wait (and training)
;)

I gotta finish my homage 3d stereo animation to say good bye to €15k in my
life. (value of the acquire and training). Thanks AD, for the dump of the
value of an automobile directly to the trash can...


On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 10:44 Ed Manning  wrote:

> Probably not much, since you can't legally transfer your license, except
> as an asset in the sale of an entire business.
>
> I also imagine that it's find-able as a crack in several corners of the
> Internet, so if anyone really wanted a copy they could get it for free.
>
> It's too bad. If I could legally buy more perpetual licenses for, say,
> $500 US each, I probably would. There's a lot of value in having working
> ICE seats for me. But I think I'm one of very few still using it regularly
> in production -- and I'm preparing to phase it out.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Leoung O'Young 
> wrote:
>
>> Now that Softimage/Maya 2015 a few years old and EOL, just curious what
>> is it worth?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Leoung
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Re: Softimage/Maya 2105 worth?

[Ed Manning]

Probably not much, since you can't legally transfer your license, except as
an asset in the sale of an entire business.

I also imagine that it's find-able as a crack in several corners of the
Internet, so if anyone really wanted a copy they could get it for free.

It's too bad. If I could legally buy more perpetual licenses for, say, $500
US each, I probably would. There's a lot of value in having working ICE
seats for me. But I think I'm one of very few still using it regularly in
production -- and I'm preparing to phase it out.



On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Leoung O'Young 
wrote:

> Now that Softimage/Maya 2015 a few years old and EOL, just curious what
> is it worth?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leoung
>
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Re: OTish - Houdini meshes to Maya with motiondata?

[Juan Brockhaus]

the thread on the redhsift forums where I posted, that/how it actually
works with the shader custom attribute overwrite

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.redshift3d.com_forums_viewthread_15100_P15=DwIBaQ=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA=wpQCrPcGHhsCpW_WC3wpYn8vgEsKGBq3vvEVVK0Zyu0=0gZKLNh6V6yTIPLIKZ5Lr6Mjw_ur2X6OJTcnjEbGZAc=


On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Juan Brockhaus 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> last year on one project we actually used Redshift proxies to get the data
> across.
>
> I don't have the project in front of me (as it is already archived...) but
> I basically did a simple ( Redshift ) shading setup in Houdini on the
> objects I needed. then written out Redshift proxies.
> for static meshes just one file and for a fluid sim a sequence. and if I
> remember correctly then I had to turn on MB in houdini for the export, only
> then the motion blur rendered in Maya with Redshift.
>
> then in Maya I could overwrite the shaders in the proxy files with the
> final Redshift shader I had setup for rendering.
> This workflow only works for Redshift of course. But it was actually much
> quicker to get the caches across and also rendered much faster in Maya,
> since the caches were already redshift proxies.
> and with the ability to write custom redshift attributes into the shader
> and then in Maya to pick them up, it worked like a charm. (i.e. in Houdini
> setting a color attribute to get hue variations, opacity, etc)
>
> It was the Mercedes G Class project ("stronger than time") done at
> Sehsucht. all the amber world sequences and the first water splash was
> rendered in redshift/Maya.
> The galaxy, a lot of the random bubbles and the first watersplash were
> setup in Houdini, exported as redshift proxies and rendered with redshift
> in Maya.
>
> hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Juan
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Artur W  wrote:
>
>> I'd like that one too. Although my original mesh came from Realflow, I
>> somehow couldn't transfer velocity attributes in Houdini to mesh for MB to
>> work in Maya Redshift.
>>
>> Artur
>>
>> 2018-04-03 13:36 GMT+02:00 Morten Bartholdy :
>>
>>> We are getting meshes from particle/fluid sims in Houdini exported as
>>> Alembic for rendering in Maya. We get no motionblur, so I am guessing no
>>> PointVelocity data available, despite our Houdini guys says he has exported
>>> the data. He tried both PointVelocity and VertexVelocity, but obviously
>>> something is amiss.
>>>
>>> I imported to Softimage to visualize the PointVelocity data in ICE and
>>> can see nothing when getting it and visualizing.
>>>
>>> Since most people here have migrated to Houdini and/or Maya I was
>>> thinking at least some of you have come across this and perhaps know the
>>> right thing to write out of Houdini and how to get it working with Redshift
>>> in Maya!?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Morten
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Re: OTish - Houdini meshes to Maya with motiondata?

[Juan Brockhaus]

 Hi,

last year on one project we actually used Redshift proxies to get the data
across.

I don't have the project in front of me (as it is already archived...) but
I basically did a simple ( Redshift ) shading setup in Houdini on the
objects I needed. then written out Redshift proxies.
for static meshes just one file and for a fluid sim a sequence. and if I
remember correctly then I had to turn on MB in houdini for the export, only
then the motion blur rendered in Maya with Redshift.

then in Maya I could overwrite the shaders in the proxy files with the final
 Redshift shader I had setup for rendering.
This workflow only works for Redshift of course. But it was actually much
quicker to get the caches across and also rendered much faster in Maya,
since the caches were already redshift proxies.
and with the ability to write custom redshift attributes into the shader
and then in Maya to pick them up, it worked like a charm. (i.e. in Houdini
setting a color attribute to get hue variations, opacity, etc)

It was the Mercedes G Class project ("stronger than time") done at
Sehsucht. all the amber world sequences and the first water splash was
rendered in redshift/Maya.
The galaxy, a lot of the random bubbles and the first watersplash were
setup in Houdini, exported as redshift proxies and rendered with redshift
in Maya.

hope that helps.

Cheers,

Juan




On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Artur W  wrote:

> I'd like that one too. Although my original mesh came from Realflow, I
> somehow couldn't transfer velocity attributes in Houdini to mesh for MB to
> work in Maya Redshift.
>
> Artur
>
> 2018-04-03 13:36 GMT+02:00 Morten Bartholdy :
>
>> We are getting meshes from particle/fluid sims in Houdini exported as
>> Alembic for rendering in Maya. We get no motionblur, so I am guessing no
>> PointVelocity data available, despite our Houdini guys says he has exported
>> the data. He tried both PointVelocity and VertexVelocity, but obviously
>> something is amiss.
>>
>> I imported to Softimage to visualize the PointVelocity data in ICE and
>> can see nothing when getting it and visualizing.
>>
>> Since most people here have migrated to Houdini and/or Maya I was
>> thinking at least some of you have come across this and perhaps know the
>> right thing to write out of Houdini and how to get it working with Redshift
>> in Maya!?
>>
>> Thanks in advance :)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Morten
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Re: OTish - Houdini meshes to Maya with motiondata?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I just got a reply from Redshift. From Houdini write a vertex color attribute 
from the motiondata - it could be called Vel or whatever. It imports into Maya 
as a Color Set which name needs to be entered in the Alembic objects Mesh 
Controls Motion Vector Color Set, ie. write Vel in that frame - no dropdown 
with choices, but that's Maya for you.

It seems the Houdini motion data values are per second, so we needed to divide 
the frame duration by 25 (25fps) to get realistic motionblur.

One would expect all this to be transparent to the user in 2018 but hey, it 
seems everybody gave up on making UI's accessible and cram as much tech crap as 
possible in instead.

MB




> Den 3. april 2018 klokken 14:56 skrev Artur W :
> 
> 
> I'd like that one too. Although my original mesh came from Realflow, I
> somehow couldn't transfer velocity attributes in Houdini to mesh for MB to
> work in Maya Redshift.
> 
> Artur
> 
> 2018-04-03 13:36 GMT+02:00 Morten Bartholdy :
> 
> > We are getting meshes from particle/fluid sims in Houdini exported as
> > Alembic for rendering in Maya. We get no motionblur, so I am guessing no
> > PointVelocity data available, despite our Houdini guys says he has exported
> > the data. He tried both PointVelocity and VertexVelocity, but obviously
> > something is amiss.
> >
> > I imported to Softimage to visualize the PointVelocity data in ICE and can
> > see nothing when getting it and visualizing.
> >
> > Since most people here have migrated to Houdini and/or Maya I was thinking
> > at least some of you have come across this and perhaps know the right thing
> > to write out of Houdini and how to get it working with Redshift in Maya!?
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Morten
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Re: OTish - Houdini meshes to Maya with motiondata?

[Artur W]

I'd like that one too. Although my original mesh came from Realflow, I
somehow couldn't transfer velocity attributes in Houdini to mesh for MB to
work in Maya Redshift.

Artur

2018-04-03 13:36 GMT+02:00 Morten Bartholdy :

> We are getting meshes from particle/fluid sims in Houdini exported as
> Alembic for rendering in Maya. We get no motionblur, so I am guessing no
> PointVelocity data available, despite our Houdini guys says he has exported
> the data. He tried both PointVelocity and VertexVelocity, but obviously
> something is amiss.
>
> I imported to Softimage to visualize the PointVelocity data in ICE and can
> see nothing when getting it and visualizing.
>
> Since most people here have migrated to Houdini and/or Maya I was thinking
> at least some of you have come across this and perhaps know the right thing
> to write out of Houdini and how to get it working with Redshift in Maya!?
>
> Thanks in advance :)
>
> Cheers
> Morten
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OTish - Houdini meshes to Maya with motiondata?

[Morten Bartholdy]

We are getting meshes from particle/fluid sims in Houdini exported as Alembic 
for rendering in Maya. We get no motionblur, so I am guessing no PointVelocity 
data available, despite our Houdini guys says he has exported the data. He 
tried both PointVelocity and VertexVelocity, but obviously something is amiss.

I imported to Softimage to visualize the PointVelocity data in ICE and can see 
nothing when getting it and visualizing.

Since most people here have migrated to Houdini and/or Maya I was thinking at 
least some of you have come across this and perhaps know the right thing to 
write out of Houdini and how to get it working with Redshift in Maya!?

Thanks in advance :)

Cheers
Morten
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