RE: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Hi Jon Unfortunately ours is a combination of two factors 1) We have done extensive polling of current and future students and they have made it very clear they will go elsewhere if we remain on Softimage 2) Even if point 1 wasn't as it is we have a legal imperative from our institution to not teach EOL software. The only grey area we have is the course that started on Softimage before the announcement will be allowed to continue using it. I would love to keep on using Softimage as I feel its a much better choice for people coming to grips with 3D. I wish the situation was otherwise ;( Ours is a small course we only have two staff really not not really much wiggle room. Kind regards Angus Angus, I agree with not teaching EOL software it may not be approprite for you. However I'm not totally undecided or against migrating over the 3 years. Obviously it depends on the set up of the syllabus and staffing. Hi David, I have many questions but my my initial questioning is around character setup and what is an appropriate autorigger (that could complement some rigging principles) We currently use the rigging tools as well as the biped as well as some Gear. The Maya ones I have on my research radar so far are: abAutoRig Advanced skeleton Human IK Mgear Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.commailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:21 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: My chat today was very constructive and supportive. I would certainly request that if you haven't already, contact Maurice and he can put you in touch with the best channels. It's far from rosie as I have a lot of retraining in a short space of time and a lot of equivalents to find/discover that they don't exist. If there are any educators that already have Maya in their syllabus that can offer some advice I would be grateful. Thanks. We teach in Maya (with some support for Softimage, that is now winding down.) Do you have any specific question? Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.commailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini. Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
There are still places that don't plan to switch to anything else for the time being for another 4-5 years maybe even more. And I saw animschool as perfect place to send couple juniors to cover some areas, and was looking at modeling and rigging ie make characters part. As modeling is pretty much software agnostic rigging on the other hand is completely software dependent. I guess there are not so many places that have that need and that will end up in school to justify keeping SI in the classes but it is shame... Only learning materials left in those cases will be like digital tutors where they said they wont be removing tarining materials so at least one good thing... Even EOL for a lot of people there is no replacement so... On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Siew Yi Liang soni...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jon: I would add RapidRig (and its newer modular version) and CreatureRigs to that list :) RapidRig is not free though. They are, however, the closest to GEAR that I know of publicly available for Maya if you don't want/have no time to make your own. I would stay away from abAutoRig, as our school forced us to use it and I was amazed at how terribly it was set up (and it's not free!). Not to publicly diss, but...it was just very weirdly scripted and its own tools have issues across versions of Maya. Some links: http://creaturerigs.com/ http://www.creativecrash.com/maya/script/-rapid-rig-advanced-auto-rig-for-maya http://www.creativecrash.com/maya/script/-rapid-rig-modular-procedural-auto-rig-for-maya Personally I think aSkeleton is one of the best free autoriggers I've seen out there, and it's really nice, apart from a few bugs/issues I have with it. The more recent versions have some really nice features in now though, and he's always updating regularly so that's a bonus. Hope this helps! Yours sincerely, Siew Yi Liang On 3/27/2014 5:45 PM, David Gallagher wrote: On 3/27/2014 6:07 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Angus, I agree with not teaching EOL software it may not be approprite for you. However I'm not totally undecided or against migrating over the 3 years. Obviously it depends on the set up of the syllabus and staffing. Hi David, I have many questions but my my initial questioning is around character setup and what is an appropriate autorigger (that could complement some rigging principles) We currently use the rigging tools as well as the biped as well as some Gear. The Maya ones I have on my research radar so far are: abAutoRig Advanced skeleton Human IK Mgear Hi! We don't use auto riggers. We teach them how to do things manually, then script simple tasks. Then the last rigging course is learning how to automate tasks in python in Maya. So, make an auto-rigged body part. I don't teach any of those classes -- I don't really keep current on Maya and don't enjoy rigging in it, so we have some other instructors involved in that. I teach the aesthetic side of things. Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:21 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: My chat today was very constructive and supportive. I would certainly request that if you haven't already, contact Maurice and he can put you in touch with the best channels. It's far from rosie as I have a lot of retraining in a short space of time and a lot of equivalents to find/discover that they don't exist. If there are any educators that already have Maya in their syllabus that can offer some advice I would be grateful. Thanks. We teach in Maya (with some support for Softimage, that is now winding down.) Do you have any specific question? Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then * .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Hello David, I haven't heard what the school is going to do, but after all this disaster; AnimSchool will still be teaching Softimage? I'm just curious, i always was amaze by those modeling/animation reels. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:16 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all AnimSchool student work. We have different instructors for the various classes. I help in a supplemental session. Thanks! On 3/25/2014 1:00 PM, Jason S wrote: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.comwrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G On 3/27/2014 1:05 PM, Tenshi S. wrote: Hello David, I haven't heard what the school is going to do, but after all this disaster; AnimSchool will still be teaching Softimage? I'm just curious, i always was amaze by those modeling/animation reels. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:16 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all AnimSchool student work. We have different instructors for the various classes. I help in a supplemental session. Thanks! On 3/25/2014 1:00 PM, Jason S wrote: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
If I remember correctly, David said that they are software agnostic in their teaching i.e the priciple remains the same that be in Softimage, Maya or Max. Its just much more fun and less stressfull to animate in Softimage. Similar priciples are covered in Stop Staring: Facial Modeling and Animation Done Right by Jason Osipa or Rig it Right! Maya Animation Rigging Concepts by Tina O'Hailey. Their software of choice is Maya but the principles remains the same. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:32 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G On 3/27/2014 1:05 PM, Tenshi S. wrote: Hello David, I haven't heard what the school is going to do, but after all this disaster; AnimSchool will still be teaching Softimage? I'm just curious, i always was amaze by those modeling/animation reels. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:16 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all AnimSchool student work. We have different instructors for the various classes. I help in a supplemental session. Thanks! On 3/25/2014 1:00 PM, Jason S wrote: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.comwrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
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Interesting David, Thank you for answer my question. Keep showing what Softimage can do!. Hope people realize in the long term that is was a real shame AD kill an amazing piece of software. :) Hope someday i could enter to some AS courses. Always dreamed learn Softimage with you guys but with my financials i couldn't handle the cost. Greetings, On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Daniel Brassard dbrassar...@gmail.comwrote: If I remember correctly, David said that they are software agnostic in their teaching i.e the priciple remains the same that be in Softimage, Maya or Max. Its just much more fun and less stressfull to animate in Softimage. Similar priciples are covered in Stop Staring: Facial Modeling and Animation Done Right by Jason Osipa or Rig it Right! Maya Animation Rigging Concepts by Tina O'Hailey. Their software of choice is Maya but the principles remains the same. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:32 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G On 3/27/2014 1:05 PM, Tenshi S. wrote: Hello David, I haven't heard what the school is going to do, but after all this disaster; AnimSchool will still be teaching Softimage? I'm just curious, i always was amaze by those modeling/animation reels. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:16 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all AnimSchool student work. We have different instructors for the various classes. I help in a supplemental session. Thanks! On 3/25/2014 1:00 PM, Jason S wrote: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.comwrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini. Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini. Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then * .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini.* Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard..(among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then / .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini./ Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
My chat today was very constructive and supportive. I would certainly request that if you haven't already, contact Maurice and he can put you in touch with the best channels. It's far from rosie as I have a lot of retraining in a short space of time and a lot of equivalents to find/discover that they don't exist. If there are any educators that already have Maya in their syllabus that can offer some advice I would be grateful. Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then * .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini.* Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
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Thats good to know. Would have been nice if they had actually let more of the educators know ;) Unfortunately as least as far as we are concerned we still cant teach EOL software ;( Thanks for letting us know. From: David Gallagher [davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 March 2014 12:38 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini. Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Angus, I agree with not teaching EOL software it may not be approprite for you. However I'm not totally undecided or against migrating over the 3 years. Obviously it depends on the set up of the syllabus and staffing. Hi David, I have many questions but my my initial questioning is around character setup and what is an appropriate autorigger (that could complement some rigging principles) We currently use the rigging tools as well as the biped as well as some Gear. The Maya ones I have on my research radar so far are: abAutoRig Advanced skeleton Human IK Mgear Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:21 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: My chat today was very constructive and supportive. I would certainly request that if you haven't already, contact Maurice and he can put you in touch with the best channels. It's far from rosie as I have a lot of retraining in a short space of time and a lot of equivalents to find/discover that they don't exist. If there are any educators that already have Maya in their syllabus that can offer some advice I would be grateful. Thanks. We teach in Maya (with some support for Softimage, that is now winding down.) Do you have any specific question? Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard.. (among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then * .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini.* Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
On 3/27/2014 6:07 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Angus, I agree with not teaching EOL software it may not be approprite for you. However I'm not totally undecided or against migrating over the 3 years. Obviously it depends on the set up of the syllabus and staffing. Hi David, I have many questions but my my initial questioning is around character setup and what is an appropriate autorigger (that could complement some rigging principles) We currently use the rigging tools as well as the biped as well as some Gear. The Maya ones I have on my research radar so far are: abAutoRig Advanced skeleton Human IK Mgear Hi! We don't use auto riggers. We teach them how to do things manually, then script simple tasks. Then the last rigging course is learning how to automate tasks in python in Maya. So, make an auto-rigged body part. I don't teach any of those classes -- I don't really keep current on Maya and don't enjoy rigging in it, so we have some other instructors involved in that. I teach the aesthetic side of things. Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:21 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: My chat today was very constructive and supportive. I would certainly request that if you haven't already, contact Maurice and he can put you in touch with the best channels. It's far from rosie as I have a lot of retraining in a short space of time and a lot of equivalents to find/discover that they don't exist. If there are any educators that already have Maya in their syllabus that can offer some advice I would be grateful. Thanks. We teach in Maya (with some support for Softimage, that is now winding down.) Do you have any specific question? Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard..(among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then / .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini./ Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya would have been very much (if not more) alive well... as well.. (having more reasons to keep-up) On 03/27/14 15:32, David Gallagher wrote: Hello! We will begin to remove Softimage assignment options, unfortunately, as it appears the students will no longer be able to download a student version, and we would be unwise to promote it for their sakes. We will continue to offer our more advanced rigs in Softimage to the animation students who may already have it, and our free, public rigs as well. I will continue to show Softimage's amazing capabilities to our students in my extra help sessions with the students. Thanks for the compliment! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Hi Jon: I would add RapidRig (and its newer modular version) and CreatureRigs to that list :) RapidRig is not free though. They are, however, the closest to GEAR that I know of publicly available for Maya if you don't want/have no time to make your own. I would stay away from abAutoRig, as our school forced us to use it and I was amazed at how terribly it was set up (and it's not free!). Not to publicly diss, but...it was just very weirdly scripted and its own tools have issues across versions of Maya. Some links: http://creaturerigs.com/ http://www.creativecrash.com/maya/script/-rapid-rig-advanced-auto-rig-for-maya http://www.creativecrash.com/maya/script/-rapid-rig-modular-procedural-auto-rig-for-maya Personally I think aSkeleton is one of the best free autoriggers I've seen out there, and it's really nice, apart from a few bugs/issues I have with it. The more recent versions have some really nice features in now though, and he's always updating regularly so that's a bonus. Hope this helps! Yours sincerely, Siew Yi Liang On 3/27/2014 5:45 PM, David Gallagher wrote: On 3/27/2014 6:07 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Angus, I agree with not teaching EOL software it may not be approprite for you. However I'm not totally undecided or against migrating over the 3 years. Obviously it depends on the set up of the syllabus and staffing. Hi David, I have many questions but my my initial questioning is around character setup and what is an appropriate autorigger (that could complement some rigging principles) We currently use the rigging tools as well as the biped as well as some Gear. The Maya ones I have on my research radar so far are: abAutoRig Advanced skeleton Human IK Mgear Hi! We don't use auto riggers. We teach them how to do things manually, then script simple tasks. Then the last rigging course is learning how to automate tasks in python in Maya. So, make an auto-rigged body part. I don't teach any of those classes -- I don't really keep current on Maya and don't enjoy rigging in it, so we have some other instructors involved in that. I teach the aesthetic side of things. Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:27 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/2014 5:21 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: My chat today was very constructive and supportive. I would certainly request that if you haven't already, contact Maurice and he can put you in touch with the best channels. It's far from rosie as I have a lot of retraining in a short space of time and a lot of equivalents to find/discover that they don't exist. If there are any educators that already have Maya in their syllabus that can offer some advice I would be grateful. Thanks. We teach in Maya (with some support for Softimage, that is now winding down.) Do you have any specific question? Kind regards, Jon On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:38 PM, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's good. The educational side of this debacle was perhaps handled the worst. On 3/27/2014 4:03 PM, Jon Hunt wrote: Hi David, I had a Skype call today from a chap from autodesk where it was confirmed from the feedback they have received, the free student versions shall be offered for another year (timeframe - iirc it was a year) to aid migration of the education community. I have certainly found this useful in our plans J On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Yet I'm sure that a number of positive silver linings would come out of this in coming versions of Maya, Cheers On 03/27/14 16:36, Jason S wrote: Nad Center in Montreal is also hit pretty hard..(among many) The thought of where XSI7 was heading, in that sense I can undestand what may have motivated the measures taken in consequence. Typical sentiment in Area Forum back then / .. with programs like Houdini and XSI 7 (with ICE) gaining a lot of ground in the development arena, is Autodesk actually taking a hard look at Maya and making it more stable while providing new features? The underlying theme I get from people on forums is if Maya 2009 doesn't deliver or Autodesk doesn't lay out some sort of roadmap worthy of sticking around, people will in fact jump to XSI or Houdini./ Makes me wonder where XSI would be today, had it not been subject to Laws of the Jungle. I'm sure Maya
AnimSchool Student Showcase
In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.comwrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Well all can say in my own experience through this adventure called Animschool, is that they are amazing teachers. --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-25 13:00 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.comwrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
Yes, all AnimSchool student work. We have different instructors for the various classes. I help in a supplemental session. Thanks! On 3/25/2014 1:00 PM, Jason S wrote: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com mailto:davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G
Re: AnimSchool Student Showcase
AnimSchool is one of the few who teach on the basis of XSI. Respect for You, 2014-03-25 23:16 GMT+04:00 David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com: Yes, all AnimSchool student work. We have different instructors for the various classes. I help in a supplemental session. Thanks! On 3/25/2014 1:00 PM, Jason S wrote: Wow all that is student work? Very good teacher I guess :) On 03/25/14 14:25, Sebastien Sterling wrote: That was quite a daring choice on Emilio's part, Vintage Disney is very difficult to pull off. On 25 March 2014 17:04, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.comwrote: In case you're interested, our Modeling/Rigging Student Showcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6-R2xDP8Ilist=UUPYQOUnJ3G1-QVUtZg62JNQ I worked with many of the students on their models and face rigs, mostly bringing their models into Softimage to edit them for appeal. Note the work of list member Emilio Hernandez! Dave G -- Евграфов Максим.(Summatr) https://vimeo.com/user3098735/videos --- Хорошего Вам настроения !!! :-)
