Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Steven Caron]

Nothing about the linked article suggests the MPC has a copy of Fabric
Engine source. It is just saying Paul has a new job.

Congrats to him btw.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Andres Stephens 
wrote:

> I’m sure he did. I wonder if MPC bought the rights to the Fabric Engine
> too haha, it just makes sense that something for data flow and technical
> development between software would be assimulated as in house tech within a
> huge production house over keeping it free/available for competition.
>
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> -Draise
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 23, 2018 10:49
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> *Subject: *Re: Fabric engine is gone
>
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> I wonder if Paul brought more than his executive rucksack with him on his
> first day at the office? ;)
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RE: Fabric engine is gone

[Andres Stephens]

I’m sure he did. I wonder if MPC bought the rights to the Fabric Engine too 
haha, it just makes sense that something for data flow and technical 
development between software would be assimulated as in house tech within a 
huge production house over keeping it free/available for competition.

-Draise

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Subject: Re: Fabric engine is gone

I wonder if Paul brought more than his executive rucksack with him on his first 
day at the office? ;)


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Subject: Re: Fabric engine is gone

Hey Jonathan, glad to hear Motion Tools is still of service. I'm also a very 
happy Mootzoid customer and can only wish Eric all the best.

Cheers,

Gustavo E Boehs
Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina | 
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Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Jonathan Moore]

I wonder if Paul brought more than his executive rucksack with him on his
first day at the office? ;)


On 23 January 2018 at 15:36, gareth bell  wrote:

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> MPC Adds Paul Doyle as Global Head of R&D
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> www.awn.com
> Co-founder of Fabric Software brings more than two decades of experience
> to new job.
>
>
>
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> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> on behalf of Gustavo Eggert
> Boehs 
> *Sent:* 12 November 2017 22:44:34
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> forum/#!forum/xsi_list
> *Subject:* Re: Fabric engine is gone
>
> Hey Jonathan, glad to hear Motion Tools is still of service. I'm also a
> very happy Mootzoid customer and can only wish Eric all the best.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gustavo E Boehs
> Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=40hwcyl2CDUKpD9M2LPi5nU-fId_wxeUqOAYuv_3184&s=omn-qVNRZAsMDekbp02mCarzneuVj9ZrI-Vgj6H_tIo&e=
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>
> 2017-11-10 19:38 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Moore :
>
> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=40hwcyl2CDUKpD9M2LPi5nU-fId_wxeUqOAYuv_3184&s=Qg7nGDmMSUZtRk7Cr6defyWnrDMLpaUhy4tovi_bDk4&e=
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>
>
> Look forward to reading this. I've followed what you've been up to ref
> neural networks and suchlike.
>
> I still make use of Motion Tools on a regular basis as they make perfect
> bedfellows to Eric M's wonderful suit of delights. Really hope Eric isn't
> out in the cold for too long. A man with Eric's talents should have his
> pick of roles in an ideal and fair world.
>
> On 10 November 2017 at 18:41, Gustavo Eggert Boehs 
> wrote:
>
> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__g

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[gareth bell]

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Sent: 12 November 2017 22:44:34
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Subject: Re: Fabric engine is gone

Hey Jonathan, glad to hear Motion Tools is still of service. I'm also a very 
happy Mootzoid customer and can only wish Eric all the best.

Cheers,

Gustavo E Boehs
Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina | 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFAw&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=U4wpOltkP9as15WGfvAl8kZcPoibuEljZwA48ElJlKY&s=6sNC736gaXL40XMOi0Mq3280rM9zcwPlrLpLYgy-LE8&e=<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=6ZbN0m2JYzF3d6d-v9BjR9VStXK2qpmG4CgvTCC-8q0&e=>

2017-11-10 19:38 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Moore 
mailto:jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>>:
Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I 
thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the void it 
leaves as it is no longer developed.
Here is the link for that post: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFAw&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=U4wpOltkP9as15WGfvAl8kZcPoibuEljZwA48ElJlKY&s=mMx7yyUcdpXOup-Ow1hGZRslAkXM-uleW5ndmZ4xAQc&e=<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=8vfFVN7WW3wJXUesMte3sebPE52q1bEjTyaCqzlI6k0&s=fSCXc6xiM5wmSc4Gv2-dSKhGMiLKLxo1r2mbLW-Sbs0&e=>

Look forward to reading this. I've followed what you've been up to ref neural 
networks and suchlike.

I still make use of Motion Tools on a regular basis as they make perfect 
bedfellows to Eric M's wonderful suit of delights. Really hope Eric isn't out 
in the cold for too long. A man with Eric's talents should have his pick of 
roles in an ideal and fair world.

On 10 November 2017 at 18:41, Gustavo Eggert Boehs 
mailto:gustav...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I 
thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the void it 
leaves as it is no longer developed.
Here is the link for that post: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFAw&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=U4wpOltkP9as15WGfvAl8kZcPoibuEljZwA48ElJlKY&s=mMx7yyUcdpXOup-Ow1hGZRslAkXM-uleW5ndmZ4xAQc&e=<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Gustavo Eggert Boehs]

Hey Jonathan, glad to hear Motion Tools is still of service. I'm also a
very happy Mootzoid customer and can only wish Eric all the best.

Cheers,

Gustavo E Boehs
Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=6ZbN0m2JYzF3d6d-v9BjR9VStXK2qpmG4CgvTCC-8q0&e=

2017-11-10 19:38 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Moore :

> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
>> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
>> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
>> Here is the link for that post: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=ySJbUDUSehMnpTtTcCLz_s4OxbWra5WbnirueJsgmhM&e=
>> 
>
>
> Look forward to reading this. I've followed what you've been up to ref
> neural networks and suchlike.
>
> I still make use of Motion Tools on a regular basis as they make perfect
> bedfellows to Eric M's wonderful suit of delights. Really hope Eric isn't
> out in the cold for too long. A man with Eric's talents should have his
> pick of roles in an ideal and fair world.
>
> On 10 November 2017 at 18:41, Gustavo Eggert Boehs 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
>> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
>> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
>> Here is the link for that post: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=ySJbUDUSehMnpTtTcCLz_s4OxbWra5WbnirueJsgmhM&e=
>> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gustavo E Boehs
>> Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=6ZbN0m2JYzF3d6d-v9BjR9VStXK2qpmG4CgvTCC-8q0&e=
>> 
>>
>> 2017-11-07 12:14 GMT-02:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone
>>>
>>> 2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom :
>>>
 "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
 both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
 interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
 When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
 well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
 around fabricEngine"
 Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
 they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."

 do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
 during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?


 On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio <
 michael.ama...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
> both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>
> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like,
> "Crap, well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system
> built around fabricEngine"
>
> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.
>
> Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more
> years to find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
> developers to continue its progress.
>>>

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Olivier Jeannel]

Nice Article !
Yep, the mistery is still complete,  what happened

2017-11-10 19:41 GMT+01:00 Gustavo Eggert Boehs :

> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=dgR1w-y9qkAIVb6KRVU9h7IO4LLvgxmAGSWvuO4KM40&s=Jy6yIQLd88ljdfJh6W9Ki4QtaHN_GslASDYeDEdJeXI&e=
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Gustavo E Boehs
> Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=dgR1w-y9qkAIVb6KRVU9h7IO4LLvgxmAGSWvuO4KM40&s=r6jeE3qEk8EmYmmk8JPtNB0VFvQqavztiOtKJA63a-o&e=
> 
>
> 2017-11-07 12:14 GMT-02:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone
>>
>> 2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom :
>>
>>> "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
>>> both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
>>> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
>>> around fabricEngine"
>>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."
>>>
>>> do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
>>> during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio <
>>> michael.ama...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
 both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
 interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.

 When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
 well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
 around fabricEngine"

 Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
 they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.

 Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years
 to find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
 developers to continue its progress.
 Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!

 I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
 just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
 mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we 
 want".
 If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
 DCC's with standalone python inputs.
 GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX
 in generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.
 I've really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information
 between Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
 Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could
 potentially leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
 I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have
 Unreal operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a
 ways off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of
 money anytime soon.

 It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
 here-all-end-all of necessity.
 I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
 unprofitable demise.

 I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky
 Maya versions. *frown*

 Anywho upwards and downwards!


 On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S"  wrote:

> I agree with everything you said..
>
> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
> this already diversity deprived environment.
> & all the best to the

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Jonathan Moore]

>
> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=6LhmFlwq547LVg10Y89qxXjc88j_MQQWenTQnZKbE9E&s=JA0daiRMHYIBxlHk8h59hEO0h6uQGEcJIsfy8dEEIoQ&e=
> 


Look forward to reading this. I've followed what you've been up to ref
neural networks and suchlike.

I still make use of Motion Tools on a regular basis as they make perfect
bedfellows to Eric M's wonderful suit of delights. Really hope Eric isn't
out in the cold for too long. A man with Eric's talents should have his
pick of roles in an ideal and fair world.

On 10 November 2017 at 18:41, Gustavo Eggert Boehs 
wrote:

> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
> Here is the link for that post: 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=6LhmFlwq547LVg10Y89qxXjc88j_MQQWenTQnZKbE9E&s=JA0daiRMHYIBxlHk8h59hEO0h6uQGEcJIsfy8dEEIoQ&e=
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Gustavo E Boehs
> Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=6LhmFlwq547LVg10Y89qxXjc88j_MQQWenTQnZKbE9E&s=FPYVvNHO53XFql1UzbnpWN2UzGPCsms5JZcLVGVXUpk&e=
> 
>
> 2017-11-07 12:14 GMT-02:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone
>>
>> 2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom :
>>
>>> "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
>>> both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
>>> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
>>> around fabricEngine"
>>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."
>>>
>>> do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
>>> during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio <
>>> michael.ama...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
 both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
 interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.

 When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
 well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
 around fabricEngine"

 Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
 they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.

 Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years
 to find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
 developers to continue its progress.
 Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!

 I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
 just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
 mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we 
 want".
 If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
 DCC's with standalone python inputs.
 GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX
 in generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.
 I've really enjoyed writing

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Gustavo Eggert Boehs]

Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
Here is the link for that post: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=8vfFVN7WW3wJXUesMte3sebPE52q1bEjTyaCqzlI6k0&s=fSCXc6xiM5wmSc4Gv2-dSKhGMiLKLxo1r2mbLW-Sbs0&e=

Cheers,
Gustavo E Boehs
Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=8vfFVN7WW3wJXUesMte3sebPE52q1bEjTyaCqzlI6k0&s=jbOPhbqmV3ZCDUP5f8d_wLKimvJjLNOcX59U9koOapc&e=

2017-11-07 12:14 GMT-02:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>:

> Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone
>
> 2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom :
>
>> "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
>> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
>> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
>> around fabricEngine"
>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."
>>
>> do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
>> during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio > > wrote:
>>
>>> What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
>>> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>>>
>>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
>>> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
>>> around fabricEngine"
>>>
>>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.
>>>
>>> Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years
>>> to find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
>>> developers to continue its progress.
>>> Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!
>>>
>>> I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
>>> just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
>>> mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we want".
>>> If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
>>> DCC's with standalone python inputs.
>>> GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX
>>> in generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.
>>> I've really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information
>>> between Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
>>> Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could
>>> potentially leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
>>> I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have
>>> Unreal operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a
>>> ways off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of
>>> money anytime soon.
>>>
>>> It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
>>> here-all-end-all of necessity.
>>> I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
>>> unprofitable demise.
>>>
>>> I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky
>>> Maya versions. *frown*
>>>
>>> Anywho upwards and downwards!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S"  wrote:
>>>
 I agree with everything you said..

 And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
 this already diversity deprived environment.
 & all the best to the FE team!

 On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:

 MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the end
 I always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
 programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
 that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
 Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
 riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.

 When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring about
 tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.

 Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard
 efforts. But I feel as one door closes oth

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Enter Reality]

Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone

2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom :

> "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
> around fabricEngine"
> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."
>
> do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
> during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio 
> wrote:
>
>> What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
>> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>>
>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
>> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
>> around fabricEngine"
>>
>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.
>>
>> Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years
>> to find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
>> developers to continue its progress.
>> Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!
>>
>> I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
>> just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
>> mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we want".
>> If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
>> DCC's with standalone python inputs.
>> GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX in
>> generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.  I've
>> really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information between
>> Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
>> Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could potentially
>> leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
>> I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have Unreal
>> operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a ways
>> off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of money
>> anytime soon.
>>
>> It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
>> here-all-end-all of necessity.
>> I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
>> unprofitable demise.
>>
>> I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky Maya
>> versions. *frown*
>>
>> Anywho upwards and downwards!
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S"  wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with everything you said..
>>>
>>> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
>>> this already diversity deprived environment.
>>> & all the best to the FE team!
>>>
>>> On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the end I
>>> always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
>>> programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
>>> that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
>>> Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
>>> riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.
>>>
>>> When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring about
>>> tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.
>>>
>>> Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard
>>> efforts. But I feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk with
>>> that much talent don't remain jobless for long.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:
>>>
>>> That's too bad.
>>> This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
>>> solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, and
>>> wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
>>> I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
>>> developers.
>>>
>>> Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=DQVtEvfYvDtCkjAh3x9SikGVVoC1XeyMDNC48ARnE90&s=pQYYjIFjH5pIuJVYEsBAM_sVz8O1jrzurgmVF-QTWrQ&e=
 

Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Andreas Bystrom]

"What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
around fabricEngine"
Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."

do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?


On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio 
wrote:

> What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
> asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>
> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
> around fabricEngine"
>
> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.
>
> Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years to
> find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
> developers to continue its progress.
> Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!
>
> I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
> just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
> mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we want".
> If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
> DCC's with standalone python inputs.
> GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX in
> generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.  I've
> really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information between
> Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
> Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could potentially
> leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
> I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have Unreal
> operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a ways
> off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of money
> anytime soon.
>
> It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
> here-all-end-all of necessity.
> I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
> unprofitable demise.
>
> I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky Maya
> versions. *frown*
>
> Anywho upwards and downwards!
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S"  wrote:
>
>> I agree with everything you said..
>>
>> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
>> this already diversity deprived environment.
>> & all the best to the FE team!
>>
>> On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>>
>> MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the end I
>> always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
>> programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
>> that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
>> Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
>> riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.
>>
>> When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring about
>> tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.
>>
>> Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard efforts.
>> But I feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk with that
>> much talent don't remain jobless for long.
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:
>>
>> That's too bad.
>> This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
>> solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, and
>> wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
>> I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
>> developers.
>>
>> Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=QbVrtghGCu8TT9LpHf6IxuVVjbGzEuP13bBOCQsJYj8&s=4wmz6iISCy_hnQyIOKW5tevnciACdEiMkU8XHriKZ_w&e=
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Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Michael Amasio]

What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they both
asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.

When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
around fabricEngine"

Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.

Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more years to
find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
developers to continue its progress.
Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!

I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want, you
just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through the
mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we want".
If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start replacing
DCC's with standalone python inputs.
GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX in
generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.  I've
really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information between
Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could potentially
leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have Unreal
operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a ways
off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of money
anytime soon.

It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
here-all-end-all of necessity.
I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
unprofitable demise.

I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky Maya
versions. *frown*

Anywho upwards and downwards!


On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S"  wrote:

> I agree with everything you said..
>
> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
> this already diversity deprived environment.
> & all the best to the FE team!
>
> On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>
> MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the end I
> always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
> programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
> that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
> Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
> riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.
>
> When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring about
> tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.
>
> Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard efforts.
> But I feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk with that
> much talent don't remain jobless for long.
>
>
> On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:
>
> That's too bad.
> This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
> solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, and
> wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
> I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
> developers.
>
> Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.
>
> On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" 
> wrote:
>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=pbxrj_RQQG4H98OyBSA0TmTlie7Dnx4JdPUw-nRsL1c&s=2fwSWyDO1blAgb_hsZj91dHLiqr4dBx97nVPidzDW7A&e=
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Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Tom Kleinenberg]

That sucks. They're really talented dudes though, I'm sure they'll land on
their feet.

On 28 October 2017 at 13:26, Jason S  wrote:

> I agree with everything you said..
>
> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially in
> this already diversity deprived environment.
> & all the best to the FE team!
>
> On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>
> MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the end I
> always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
> programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
> that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
> Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
> riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.
>
> When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring about
> tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.
>
> Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard efforts.
> But I feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk with that
> much talent don't remain jobless for long.
>
>
> On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:
>
> That's too bad.
> This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
> solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, and
> wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
> I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
> developers.
>
> Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.
>
> On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" 
> wrote:
>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=D6pM7ayEhBJ5KIOAYiicpK23yB3CXtyJVu8ABDw6u_Y&s=zujmMAmI4cWPLq50uOlkQUXZkgStWHdcCeIUUfUfL_Y&e=
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Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Jason S]

  
  

  I agree with everything you said..

And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors,
especially in this already diversity deprived environment.
& all the best to the FE team!

On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
  
  
MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric
  Engine but in the end I always felt it was too narrowly aimed
  at senior TD's with plenty of programming experience. The
  success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds that acted as a
  gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
  Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing
  experienced riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon
  realised it wasn't to be.
  
  
  When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that
would bring about tools for technically minded artists who
weren't necessarily TD's.
  
  
  Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all
their hard efforts. But I feel as one door closes others
will open for them, folk with that much talent don't remain
jobless for long.


  
  
  On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:


  That's too bad.
This is rough market.  There's not much money in
  developing better solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's
  with ancient architecture, and wait till one of us becomes a
  billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
I'd love to here more of the story of what
  happened from some of the developers.


Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini,
  Oliver.
  
  
On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier
  Jeannel" 
  wrote:
  
http://fabricengine.com
  
  


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Re: Fabric engine is gone

[Michael Amasio]

That's too bad.
This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, and
wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting edge.
I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
developers.

Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.

On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel"  wrote:

> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=DtsmmPTf93ZHD6qAycXG89uMFCXtW0p3YhbMwhI7Ryg&s=FOXsIQgrS4XE5OmfYVQhj2Nvt995IFblDeuruMkgqwo&e=
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Fabric engine is gone

[Olivier Jeannel]

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