[spctools-discuss] Automated TPP

2011-08-03 Thread John Bryant
Does anyone have a script that automatically runs the entire TPP
process from converting .RAW files from the mass spectrometer to
identify the proteins using protein prophet?
I have used the TPP for a while and I don't like having to wait for
each step to finish before I manually initiate the next step of the
process.

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[spctools-discuss] Re: Automated TPP

2011-08-03 Thread John Bryant
In Windows

On Aug 3, 1:31 pm, Joseph Slagel joseph.sla...@systemsbiology.org
wrote:
 Windows or Unix?  A long time ago I played around with a Makefile that would
 run the process, and had the added benefit of knowing when to rerun
 certain parts when files changed (such as edits to parameters).

 -Joe







 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:21 AM, John Bryant john_bryan...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Does anyone have a script that automatically runs the entire TPP
  process from converting .RAW files from the mass spectrometer to
  identify the proteins using protein prophet?
  I have used the TPP for a while and I don't like having to wait for
  each step to finish before I manually initiate the next step of the
  process.

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[spctools-discuss] Re: Automated TPP

2011-08-03 Thread John Bryant
In Windows 7

On Aug 3, 1:31 pm, Joseph Slagel joseph.sla...@systemsbiology.org
wrote:
 Windows or Unix?  A long time ago I played around with a Makefile that would
 run the process, and had the added benefit of knowing when to rerun
 certain parts when files changed (such as edits to parameters).

 -Joe







 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:21 AM, John Bryant john_bryan...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Does anyone have a script that automatically runs the entire TPP
  process from converting .RAW files from the mass spectrometer to
  identify the proteins using protein prophet?
  I have used the TPP for a while and I don't like having to wait for
  each step to finish before I manually initiate the next step of the
  process.

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[spctools-discuss] Re: Automated TPP

2011-08-03 Thread ned4short
I have a batch script which works pretty well, but continuously
produces popup consoles while Sequest is running. Does anyone know a
possible solution to this?
___
set /p filename= Please, type the name of your .RAW file (excluding
the extension):
set /p paramfile= Type the name of your parameter file (excluding the
extension):

ReAdW -v --mzXML %filename%.RAW

runsearch -p%paramfile%.params -P15 %filename%.mzXML
sequest -P%paramfile%.params -Dxargs

out2XML.exe %filename% 1 -P%paramfile%.params -Etrypsin

xinteract  -N%filename%.pep.xml -p0.05 -l7 -O %filename%.pep.xml

proteinprophet %filename%.pep.xml %filename%.prot.xml
_

Adjust each line to specify where exactly your files are and save it
as a batch script.
As I said it works well, but it produces annoying popup as the Sequest
search is running.

-Ned




On Aug 3, 2:38 pm, Joseph Slagel joseph.sla...@systemsbiology.org
wrote:
 In theory it should work under nmake -- but I won't unleash this on anyone
 without extensively testing it first.  Hopefully someone else has a
 solution, otherwise you could piece together a .bat file pretty easily by
 looking at the commands issued in petunia.

 -Joe

 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Bryant john_bryan...@yahoo.comwrote:







  In Windows 7

  On Aug 3, 1:31 pm, Joseph Slagel joseph.sla...@systemsbiology.org
  wrote:
   Windows or Unix?  A long time ago I played around with a Makefile that
  would
   run the process, and had the added benefit of knowing when to rerun
   certain parts when files changed (such as edits to parameters).

   -Joe

   On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:21 AM, John Bryant john_bryan...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
Does anyone have a script that automatically runs the entire TPP
process from converting .RAW files from the mass spectrometer to
identify the proteins using protein prophet?
I have used the TPP for a while and I don't like having to wait for
each step to finish before I manually initiate the next step of the
process.

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[spctools-discuss] how to merge sample in InterProphet

2011-08-03 Thread Kinfai Au
Hi,
I have a data with 8 factions. I searched them in SEQUEST and X!tandem
respectively. The output files after PeptideProphet are:

Band1.sequest.pep.xml
Band2.sequest.pep.xml
Band3.sequest.pep.xml
Band4.sequest.pep.xml
Band5.sequest.pep.xml
Band6.sequest.pep.xml
Band7.sequest.pep.xml
Band8.sequest.pep.xml

Band1.xtandem.pep.xml
Band2.xtandem.pep.xml
Band3.xtandem.pep.xml
Band4.xtandem.pep.xml
Band5.xtandem.pep.xml
Band6.xtandem.pep.xml
Band7.xtandem.pep.xml
Band8.xtandem.pep.xml

How can I merge them in InterProphet? I asked this question in the
workshop. I work on Linux. Could you write me an example of the
command line that I should use?

Yours,
Kinfai

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Re: [spctools-discuss] how to merge sample in InterProphet

2011-08-03 Thread David Shteynberg
I would suggest you run these in separate directories maintaining the
same basename of your spectrum files, this way iProphet will be able
to recognized multiple searches of the same spectra.  Run xinteract on
each search combining all fractions from each search into a single
analysis at the PeptideProphet level. Something like:

cd sequest

xinteract Band*.pep.xml

cd xtandem

xinteract Band*.pep.xml

cd ../iprophet

InterProphetParser ../sequest/interact.pep.xml
../xtandem/interact.pep.xml interact.iprophet.pep.xml

Write back if you need further clarification.

-David




On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Kinfai Au kinfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a data with 8 factions. I searched them in SEQUEST and X!tandem
 respectively. The output files after PeptideProphet are:

 Band1.sequest.pep.xml
 Band2.sequest.pep.xml
 Band3.sequest.pep.xml
 Band4.sequest.pep.xml
 Band5.sequest.pep.xml
 Band6.sequest.pep.xml
 Band7.sequest.pep.xml
 Band8.sequest.pep.xml

 Band1.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band2.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band3.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band4.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band5.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band6.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band7.xtandem.pep.xml
 Band8.xtandem.pep.xml

 How can I merge them in InterProphet? I asked this question in the
 workshop. I work on Linux. Could you write me an example of the
 command line that I should use?

 Yours,
 Kinfai

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Re: [spctools-discuss] how to merge sample in InterProphet

2011-08-03 Thread Matthew Chambers
Isn't the purpose of the base_name attribute in the pepXML to avoid the requirement of keeping the 
basename of the files the same?


-Matt


On 8/3/2011 5:32 PM, David Shteynberg wrote:

I would suggest you run these in separate directories maintaining the
same basename of your spectrum files, this way iProphet will be able
to recognized multiple searches of the same spectra.  Run xinteract on
each search combining all fractions from each search into a single
analysis at the PeptideProphet level. Something like:

cd sequest

xinteract Band*.pep.xml

cd xtandem

xinteract Band*.pep.xml

cd ../iprophet

InterProphetParser ../sequest/interact.pep.xml
../xtandem/interact.pep.xml interact.iprophet.pep.xml

Write back if you need further clarification.

-David




On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Kinfai Aukinfa...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
I have a data with 8 factions. I searched them in SEQUEST and X!tandem
respectively. The output files after PeptideProphet are:

Band1.sequest.pep.xml
Band2.sequest.pep.xml
Band3.sequest.pep.xml
Band4.sequest.pep.xml
Band5.sequest.pep.xml
Band6.sequest.pep.xml
Band7.sequest.pep.xml
Band8.sequest.pep.xml

Band1.xtandem.pep.xml
Band2.xtandem.pep.xml
Band3.xtandem.pep.xml
Band4.xtandem.pep.xml
Band5.xtandem.pep.xml
Band6.xtandem.pep.xml
Band7.xtandem.pep.xml
Band8.xtandem.pep.xml

How can I merge them in InterProphet? I asked this question in the
workshop. I work on Linux. Could you write me an example of the
command line that I should use?

Yours,
Kinfai


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[spctools-discuss] XPRESS discrepancy between ProtXML and PepXML viewers and XPRESS viewer Options

2011-08-03 Thread Oded
Dear all,
I am using TPP for SILAC analysis of Obritrap X!tandem data (with K+8/R
+10).
I noticed some differences between the peptide Xpress values shown
thorough ProtXML viewer (XPressCGIProteinDisplayParser.cgi) and pepXML
viewer (PepXMLViewer.cgi) and those that appear in
XPressPeptideUpdateParser.cgi (which I assume are the correct ones).
These differences are usually not that big (i.e 1-5%) in some cases
can be totally off (i.e 0.1 vs 0.25).
I have got similar outputs with TPP 4.4.1 on a Mac (OS 10.6) and Win
XP.
I should mention that I run it all through the gui.
Any idea how to overcome it?
Many thanks,
Oded


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From: Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com
Date: Dec 21 2010, 8:16 am
Subject: XPRESS discrepancy between PepXML viewer and XPRESS viewer
To: spctools-discuss


Oliver,

I finally had a chance to revert to 4.3.1 on two machines (linux 
windows desktop), runXPRESSon an old ICAT dataset, and view the
ratios using new 4.4.1 XPressUpdateParser.cgi.  On both systems I
don't see the inconsistent ratios being reported for this dataset.
Then I found some Orbi SILAC datasets which were run under 4.3.1.
Viewing the ratios  chromatograms using the current 4.4.1 cgi viewer
shows the exact same ratios as calculated by 4.3.1XPRESS.

At this point, I can't replicate the discrepancy you're seeing.  My
advice would be to run your analysis again and see if the discrepancy
remains.  If you still see the problem, isolate a small dataset
(single lcms run) and send it to me (mzXML, pep.xml) along with
yourXPRESSrun parameters.

- Jimmy

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:02 AM, oschill...@gmail.com







oschill...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for my late reply: the discrepancy occurs when viewing a TPP 4.3
 analysis with TPP 4.4. We have now rolled back to TPP 4.3 to keep our
XPRESSanalysis consistent. Any advice on how to proceed in the
 future?

 Thanks

 Oliver

 On Nov 23, 5:46 pm, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oliver,

 What parameters did you use to runXPRESS?  The GUI showing elution
 profiles has no current support for the isotope option (summed
 intensities of first N isotope peaks) but otherwise should return the
 same ratios as that shown in the pepXML file.

 - Jimmy

 On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, oschill...@gmail.com

 oschill...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear TPP community,

  we notice a small discrepancy between theXPRESSvalues displayed in
  the PepXML viewer tab (table withpeptidesequences etc) and the
 XPRESStab (graphic display of elution peak). For almost all peptides,
  we observe slightly differentXPRESSvalues in both tabs. For example,
  apeptidehas anXPRESSvalue of 2.32:1 in the PepXML viewer and
  2.27:1 in theXPRESSviewer.

  Our impression is that this discrepancy occurs as of TPP 4.4.1 and
  does not occur for TPP 4.3.x.

  Can anyone please advice us on how to proceed here?

  Thanks a lot

  Oliver

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