[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
- Original Message - From: Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your modem run under windows with wich version of the driver? Is your ADSL line over ISDN? Maybe I am right but it was just a quick look at the windows V3 driver. I completly don't know what is done inside. I just see a new model REV 4.00 named 'Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 (SACHU3)' and a directory named sachu3 with a firmware inside. So it's look clear to me. The Windows driver is version 3, specifically C:\Windows\System\Alcan5wn.sys is version 300.7.0.2 and the Firmware is version 330 1.0.10 (as reported by the SpeedTouch diagnostic application). It's also reporting that the Hardware version is 3572070, I'm not sure how that relates to REV_400 but heh. It's ADSL over PPPoA, not ISDN. I agree that technically the SACHU3 firmware in the $SPEEDTOUCHDIR/Bin/ directory should work but modem_run -f zzz...emi didn't upload it. Is it still so clear? No, your line type is one of : - a classical analogic line (pots: plain old telephon system) and use ADSL ANSI/G.dtm annex A - a numeric line (isdn: integrated services numeric line) and use ADSL ANSI/G.dtm annex B ( and UR2 for Germany). Over this line, depending of your ISP, you should use one or various protocols (PPPoA/PPPoE, routed_IP, bridged_IP) Under the windows diagnostic program, you will see your modem type under ADSL pots/rnis (mine is french rnis=isdn) Maybe there is an unsupported change in this new firmware in the manner the firmware is encapsulated in the file. In this V3.0 driver, it is visible that the firmware is no more inside of alcaudsl.sys (the file is too small) but in KDxx2.eni../ZZxx2.eni. Does your REV400 work under windows? Did you try with speedmgmt instead of modem_run? Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, your line type is one of : - a classical analogic line (pots: plain old telephon system) and use ADSL ANSI/G.dtm annex A - a numeric line (isdn: integrated services numeric line) and use ADSL ANSI/G.dtm annex B ( and UR2 for Germany). Over this line, depending of your ISP, you should use one or various protocols (PPPoA/PPPoE, routed_IP, bridged_IP) Under the windows diagnostic program, you will see your modem type under ADSL pots/rnis (mine is french rnis=isdn) Maybe there is an unsupported change in this new firmware in the manner the firmware is encapsulated in the file. In this V3.0 driver, it is visible that the firmware is no more inside of alcaudsl.sys (the file is too small) but in KDxx2.eni../ZZxx2.eni. Does your REV400 work under windows? Did you try with speedmgmt instead of modem_run? I apoligise, my line type is POSTS in Gdmt.A mode. Well, I was beginning to think they have made a change internally somewhere. Do you think there's going to be much luck until one of the developers comes across one? And yes, I have tried speedmgmt. That didn't work either. Martin - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6wxr3bF34WXq1XsRAuxYAJ9If1IVosYbkzRIz7g/hdF6DP3dagCg78Q+ NeH1YdCOEL6ODd95Wle7ut8= =SCxL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
- Original Message - From: Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, your line type is one of : - a classical analogic line (pots: plain old telephon system) and use ADSL ANSI/G.dtm annex A - a numeric line (isdn: integrated services numeric line) and use ADSL ANSI/G.dtm annex B ( and UR2 for Germany). Over this line, depending of your ISP, you should use one or various protocols (PPPoA/PPPoE, routed_IP, bridged_IP) Under the windows diagnostic program, you will see your modem type under ADSL pots/rnis (mine is french rnis=isdn) Maybe there is an unsupported change in this new firmware in the manner the firmware is encapsulated in the file. In this V3.0 driver, it is visible that the firmware is no more inside of alcaudsl.sys (the file is too small) but in KDxx2.eni../ZZxx2.eni. Does your REV400 work under windows? Did you try with speedmgmt instead of modem_run? I apoligise, my line type is POSTS in Gdmt.A mode. Does it work under windows? How identify the modem under windows diagnostic program (pots or isdn)? Well, I was beginning to think they have made a change internally somewhere. Do you think there's going to be much luck until one of the developers comes across one? Edouard Gomez look to be a teacher, so he is on holidays at this time. I am afraid you have to wait some of the guru come back. If you don't want to wait and have some C skill, you have to find some post in archives where it is explaind how the firmware is encapsulated in the firmware file. It's may have somewhere in CVS a .c programm to explore those things if I remember well. It's may be http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/speedtouch/speedtouch/Attic /extract.c?content-type=text%2Fplainrev=1.3 Later you have to identify what have changed and accomodate modem_run to thoses changes. Because it does not indicate 100%, this is a sign that one of the start or end sequence to detect exact firmware position in the file has changed. I know just one thing, I don't have the skill to do that yet. Gilles Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Hiya Martin Mine's silver but works ok under XP. Ironically, due to operateor malfunction, I now don't have XP installed and I decided not to hunt out my XP disks and merely go full blown Linux to see how I coped. I'm not convinced the colour has anything to do with it. You'll understand the ironically fairly soon. I have downloaded speedbundle 1.00 and read the README docuementation at the top of the code tree which says do 'make' and then do 'make install'. Read error messages and plug in modem to connect. So i did 'make' and I read and acted on the error messages, and I did 'make install' which got me to where I was earlier on - expecting to be able to access the interenet via my ADSL account. I poked around with ifcfg-dsl0 and .wvdialrc with no avail. Apart from messing up my dial up connection for a bit which really caused me some worries. I even tried rebooting. Oh and disconnecting and reconnecting the modem, (which resolutely stays green all the time on both ADSL and USB channels). It did all the flickering as described in the faq when I first connected it under XP. I toodled around the speedbundle tree. The HOWTO is meant to be in there somewhere. and that is what I was looking for. I found it in firmware_loader/doc-linux/ If you look in that directory there is an awful lot more info including a howto in 5 European languages. WHat I was able to gather, from the HOWTO is that the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. I haven't yet successfully located the mgmt.o file and would love to know where it is. The alcaudsl.sys file is a Windows system driver and the only place you can get it is from the Windows software on the Thompson site ... and you need Windows to unbundle it from the .exe they send you. Ho hum. Now I could go on various winges about having to have Windows to be able to have ADSL via the Alcatel SpeedTouch 330 on Linux. But I suppose it's the manufacturer being inconvenient about Linux and not providing the .sys file accordingly. Either way, I am sure the developers have done the best they are able to. I am however, quite confused about the documentation. The top level README is fairly explicit in saying, do make, do make install, plug in the modem and you are away. The HOWTO starts talking about kernel config ; which in my book seems to be a bit more than plugging in the modem. Which is right? So : 1. if anyone knows the location of mgmt.o please would they let me know. 2. Does anyone know if we have to reconfigure and recompile the kernel? Looking forward to hearing from someone Regards of the season :) Lesley On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:23:27 -0800, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received a new SpeedTouch 330 on warrenty (and to my supprise it's silver -- could this be an updated version?). Anyway, since I received it I've had the exact same problem as you and of yet have been unable to solve it. Have you had any luck? Is yours a silver model, or the regular red? If it's silver, could Alactel maybe have changed the firmware and forgot to tell us? I'm just plucking at straws really. I'm just about to hack alittle on the modem_run source, maybe I'll try the proprietry code in the source -- again, just plucking at straws. Let me know if you find anything and I will likewise. Martin (PS: Demon users shall unite...) -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
- Original Message - From: lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3 Hiya Martin Mine's silver but works ok under XP. Ironically, due to operateor malfunction, I now don't have XP installed and I decided not to hunt out my XP disks and merely go full blown Linux to see how I coped. I'm not convinced the colour has anything to do with it. You'll understand the ironically fairly soon. I have downloaded speedbundle 1.00 and read the README docuementation at the top of the code tree which says do 'make' and then do 'make install'. Read error messages and plug in modem to connect. So i did 'make' and I read and acted on the error messages, and I did 'make install' which got me to where I was earlier on - expecting to be able to access the interenet via my ADSL account. I poked around with ifcfg-dsl0 and .wvdialrc with no avail. Apart from messing up my dial up connection for a bit which really caused me some worries. I even tried rebooting. Oh and disconnecting and reconnecting the modem, (which resolutely stays green all the time on both ADSL and USB channels). It did all the flickering as described in the faq when I first connected it under XP. I toodled around the speedbundle tree. The HOWTO is meant to be in there somewhere. and that is what I was looking for. I found it in firmware_loader/doc-linux/ If you look in that directory there is an awful lot more info including a howto in 5 European languages. WHat I was able to gather, from the HOWTO is that the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. This is not 'and' but 'or'. In replacement, you can use too firmware.bin on the dowload page of the user mode driver or or KQD6P2.eni from Thomson site I haven't yet successfully located the mgmt.o file and would love to know where it is. mgmt.o is old and has no more interest. snip 2. Does anyone know if we have to reconfigure and recompile the kernel? It depend with wich distribution you start or what kernel configuration you use. The kernel driver is include in 2.4.22 and later. big snip I just received a new SpeedTouch 330 on warrenty (and to my supprise it's silver -- could this be an updated version?). Anyway, since I received it I've had the exact same problem as you and of yet have been unable to solve it. Have you had any luck? Is yours a silver model, or the regular red? If it's silver, could Alactel maybe have changed the firmware and forgot to tell us? I'm just plucking at straws really. Could you say what revision you silver modem is? You can see the revision with cat /proc/bus/usb/devices The REV_0400 is new on the V3.0 Thomson Speedtouch usb windows driver and may use a different firmware named ZZZLP2.eni (you will find it after installing the V3.0 driver on Program Files\Thomson\Speedtouch usb\bin\sachu3) It's may be the isdn flavour of the 330 modem but it's only a simple idea in my head, I know nothing. %Avens.ADSL%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_ ;Alcatel ADSL adapter %Avens.ADSL.ISDN%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0001 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter (ISDN) %Avens.ADSL.330%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0200 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 %Avens.ADSL.330%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0400 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 (SACHU3) %Avens.ADSL.COMBO%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0300 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter COMBO Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Right, my problem is EXACTLY that. It works perfect in Win98 and I'm even running ICS for my home network for the night just until I can get back to regular NAT. You sound like you're using the kernel space drivers. I have tried them as well as the user space, both without any luck. The lights are the same here too, both green -- the firmware is never uploaded so the ADSL light never flashes like it's suppose to. As for kernel compilation it should only be nesscary if your distribution kernel hasn't got the required pppoa/n_hdlc and speedtch modules included. As far I know the speedtch driver was included in 2.4.23, so pressuming you're running a recent distribution kernel (from Mandrake, or SuSE for instance) it should be fine. I wasn't aware you needed BOTH mgmt.o and alcudsl.sys. From my past experience, it's an either or situation. For arguments sakes however: http://download.ethomson.com/download/speedmgmt.tar.gz is the package which builds mgmt.o. My question about colour was simple. Two days ago my red Speedtouch 330 failed. I was told it was a reconised fault and given a new one on warrenty. Today it arrived, but it was silver. I plugged it in just as my previous one was and logically it should all start up fine -- seeing as they're the same product. That wasn't the case and as I am seeing now it's proving impossible to load the firmware from any of the free [libre] drivers. It just makes me wonder if they maybe have made slightest modification to the silver modems causing the drivers not to work. That's just a cloud in the sky though. This is a problem caused by Alactel -- that is for sure. If they were to document their hardware specifications and release the source code for their firmware I can assure them they'd get a much great response for their products. It's the way forward, they just need to embrace it. I'll keep hunting for a solution, and I hope you do too. We really need one of the developers to confirm one of our theories in order to make real progress. Talk to you later, Martin On Wednesday 24 December 2003 04:53 pm, you wrote: Hiya Martin Mine's silver but works ok under XP. Ironically, due to operateor malfunction, I now don't have XP installed and I decided not to hunt out my XP disks and merely go full blown Linux to see how I coped. I'm not convinced the colour has anything to do with it. You'll understand the ironically fairly soon. I have downloaded speedbundle 1.00 and read the README docuementation at the top of the code tree which says do 'make' and then do 'make install'. Read error messages and plug in modem to connect. So i did 'make' and I read and acted on the error messages, and I did 'make install' which got me to where I was earlier on - expecting to be able to access the interenet via my ADSL account. I poked around with ifcfg-dsl0 and .wvdialrc with no avail. Apart from messing up my dial up connection for a bit which really caused me some worries. I even tried rebooting. Oh and disconnecting and reconnecting the modem, (which resolutely stays green all the time on both ADSL and USB channels). It did all the flickering as described in the faq when I first connected it under XP. I toodled around the speedbundle tree. The HOWTO is meant to be in there somewhere. and that is what I was looking for. I found it in firmware_loader/doc-linux/ If you look in that directory there is an awful lot more info including a howto in 5 European languages. WHat I was able to gather, from the HOWTO is that the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. I haven't yet successfully located the mgmt.o file and would love to know where it is. The alcaudsl.sys file is a Windows system driver and the only place you can get it is from the Windows software on the Thompson site ... and you need Windows to unbundle it from the .exe they send you. Ho hum. Now I could go on various winges about having to have Windows to be able to have ADSL via the Alcatel SpeedTouch 330 on Linux. But I suppose it's the manufacturer being inconvenient about Linux and not providing the .sys file accordingly. Either way, I am sure the developers have done the best they are able to. I am however, quite confused about the documentation. The top level README is fairly explicit in saying, do make, do make install, plug in the modem and you are away. The HOWTO starts talking about kernel config ; which in my book seems to be a bit more than plugging in the modem. Which is right? So : 1. if anyone knows the location of mgmt.o please would they let me know. 2. Does anyone know if we have to reconfigure and recompile the kernel? Looking forward to hearing from someone Regards of the season :) Lesley On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:23:27 -0800, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received a new SpeedTouch 330 on warrenty (and to my
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Gilles, Please forgive my French but merci beaucoup pour votre response :) On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:13:57 +0100, Gilles Espinasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I toodled around the speedbundle tree. The HOWTO is meant to be in there somewhere. and that is what I was looking for. I found it in firmware_loader/doc-linux/ WHat I was able to gather, from the HOWTO is that the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. This is not 'and' but 'or'. In replacement, you can use too firmware.bin on the dowload page of the user mode driver or or KQD6P2.eni from Thomson site Ah well *that* is interesting and useful information :) I have firmware.bin and KQD6P2.eni in the firmware subdirectory my speedbundle directory. I got them both via the page http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/download/index.html with the links thus firmware.bin from http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/files/firmware.bin KQD6P2.eni from http://download.ethomson.com/download/KQD6_R204.zip I haven't yet successfully located the mgmt.o file and would love to know where it is. mgmt.o is old and has no more interest. So to summarise I need any one of mgmt.o, alcaudsl.sys, firmware.bin *or* KQD6P2.eni but *not* a combination of them. snip 2. Does anyone know if we have to reconfigure and recompile the kernel? It depend with wich distribution you start or what kernel configuration you use. The kernel driver is include in 2.4.22 and later. I have 2.4.20 I have downloaded 2.4.23 but have yet to try to compile and install it. Want to try to avoid compounding problems at the moment. big snip I just received a new SpeedTouch 330 on warrenty (and to my supprise it's silver -- could this be an updated version?). Anyway, since I received it I've had the exact same problem as you and of yet have been unable to solve it. Have you had any luck? Is yours a silver model, or the regular red? If it's silver, could Alactel maybe have changed the firmware and forgot to tell us? I'm just plucking at straws really. Could you say what revision you silver modem is? You can see the revision with cat /proc/bus/usb/devices My output from cat /proc/bus/usb/devices for the port the modem is on follows below. I interpret it as saying that I have Rev 2.00 : T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 7 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=06b9 ProdID=4061 Rev= 2.00 S: Manufacturer=ALCATEL S: Product=Speed Touch 330 S: SerialNumber=0090D0A6315E C:* #Ifs= 3 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 16 Ivl=50ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=speedtch I: If#= 1 Alt= 1 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=speedtch E: Ad=06(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=07(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=87(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 2 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=speedtch E: Ad=06(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=07(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=87(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 640 Ivl=1ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 3 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=speedtch E: Ad=06(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=07(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=87(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 960 Ivl=1ms I: If#= 2 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none) E: Ad=05(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=85(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms The REV_0400 is new on the V3.0 Thomson Speedtouch usb windows driver and may use a different firmware named ZZZLP2.eni (you will find it after installing the V3.0 driver on Program Files\Thomson\Speedtouch usb\bin\sachu3) I couyld get to this if I want to take down this installation and reinstall XP. But I have moved recently and haven't a clue where my XP disk is and I would rather stay completely Linux. This may have resolved something for me. I have downloaded the Windows upgrades from the Thompson site. There is R2.0.1.2 and R3 there but I was confused as to which to use. But from what you have said above, it seems to me I don't need them. I just need to use one of firmware.bin or KQD6P2.eni (both of which I have). I'll try using just one of these first :) Lesley It's may be the isdn flavour of the 330 modem but it's only a simple idea in my head, I know nothing. %Avens.ADSL%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_ ;Alcatel ADSL adapter %Avens.ADSL.ISDN%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0001 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter (ISDN) %Avens.ADSL.330%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0200 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 %Avens.ADSL.330%=alcaudsl.Install,USB\VID_06b9PID_4061REV_0400 ;Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 (SACHU3)
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Could you say what revision you silver modem is? You can see the revision with cat /proc/bus/usb/devices My output from cat /proc/bus/usb/devices for the port the modem is on follows below. I interpret it as saying that I have Rev 2.00 : P: Vendor=06b9 ProdID=4061 Rev= 2.00 S: Manufacturer=ALCATEL S: Product=Speed Touch 330 Yes, yours is a standard 330. It should work. Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Martin On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:48:42 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you're using the kernel space drivers. I have tried them as well as the user space, both without any luck. The lights are the same here too, both green -- the firmware is never uploaded so the ADSL light never flashes like it's suppose to. I am not sufficiently well educated to determine whether I am using user space or kernel space drivers :). As for kernel compilation it should only be nesscary if your distribution kernel hasn't got the required pppoa/n_hdlc and speedtch modules included. As far I know the speedtch driver was included in 2.4.23, so pressuming you're running a recent distribution kernel (from Mandrake, or SuSE for instance) it should be fine. I have 2.4.20 via Suse 8.3 but have downloaded the 2.4.23 kernel to upgrade it. As I said in another email, I don't want to compound the issues. I did look at compiling the new kernel but was a little worried that I wouldn't get it right at all. Are you saying that if I use 2.4.23 then I shouldn't have to worry about installing any drivers at all? I wasn't aware you needed BOTH mgmt.o and alcudsl.sys. From my past experience, it's an either or situation. For arguments sakes however: http://download.ethomson.com/download/speedmgmt.tar.gz is the package which builds mgmt.o. Thank you for the link. I think Gilles has explained the situation, in a previous post, re mgmt.o and alcudsl.sys in that they are *or* not *and*. My question about colour was simple. Two days ago my red Speedtouch 330 failed. I was told it was a reconised fault and given a new one on warrenty. Today it arrived, but it was silver. I plugged it in just as my previous one was and logically it should all start up fine -- seeing as they're the same product. That wasn't the case and as I am seeing now it's proving impossible to load the firmware from any of the free [libre] drivers. It just makes me wonder if they maybe have made slightest modification to the silver modems causing the drivers not to work. That's just a cloud in the sky though. This is a problem caused by Alactel -- that is for sure. If they were to document their hardware specifications and release the source code for their firmware I can assure them they'd get a much great response for their products. It's the way forward, they just need to embrace it. Sorry to hear your previous modem broke. And yes I agree it's rather worrying that the silver one didn't run as a replacement straight off. I had heard that the Alcatel did work under Linux and am disappointed to hear that you are having problems with it under replacement for a previous version that was working. I don't know what other modems there are that work under Linux. Many thanks for the info Martin. Will post if I get any further with this. Lesley On Wednesday 24 December 2003 04:53 pm, you wrote: Hiya Martin Mine's silver but works ok under XP. Ironically, due to operateor malfunction, I now don't have XP installed and I decided not to hunt out my XP disks and merely go full blown Linux to see how I coped. I'm not convinced the colour has anything to do with it. You'll understand the ironically fairly soon. I have downloaded speedbundle 1.00 and read the README docuementation at the top of the code tree which says do 'make' and then do 'make install'. Read error messages and plug in modem to connect. So i did 'make' and I read and acted on the error messages, and I did 'make install' which got me to where I was earlier on - expecting to be able to access the interenet via my ADSL account. I poked around with ifcfg-dsl0 and .wvdialrc with no avail. Apart from messing up my dial up connection for a bit which really caused me some worries. I even tried rebooting. Oh and disconnecting and reconnecting the modem, (which resolutely stays green all the time on both ADSL and USB channels). It did all the flickering as described in the faq when I first connected it under XP. I toodled around the speedbundle tree. The HOWTO is meant to be in there somewhere. and that is what I was looking for. I found it in firmware_loader/doc-linux/ If you look in that directory there is an awful lot more info including a howto in 5 European languages. WHat I was able to gather, from the HOWTO is that the files mgmt.o and alcaudsl.sys are *required* to get the modem going. I haven't yet successfully located the mgmt.o file and would love to know where it is. The alcaudsl.sys file is a Windows system driver and the only place you can get it is from the Windows software on the Thompson site ... and you need Windows to unbundle it from the .exe they send you. Ho hum. Now I could go on various winges about having to have Windows to be able to have ADSL via the Alcatel SpeedTouch 330 on Linux. But I suppose it's the manufacturer
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
- Original Message - From: lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3 Martin On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:48:42 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you're using the kernel space drivers. I have tried them as well as the user space, both without any luck. The lights are the same here too, both green -- the firmware is never uploaded so the ADSL light never flashes like it's suppose to. I am not sufficiently well educated to determine whether I am using user space or kernel space drivers :). modem_run and pppoa3 is the user space driver modem_run and speedtch.o module is the kernel mode driver As for kernel compilation it should only be nesscary if your distribution kernel hasn't got the required pppoa/n_hdlc and speedtch modules included. As far I know the speedtch driver was included in 2.4.23, so pressuming you're running a recent distribution kernel (from Mandrake, or SuSE for instance) it should be fine. I have 2.4.20 via Suse 8.3 but have downloaded the 2.4.23 kernel to upgrade it. As I said in another email, I don't want to compound the issues. I did look at compiling the new kernel but was a little worried that I wouldn't get it right at all. Are you saying that if I use 2.4.23 then I shouldn't have to worry about installing any drivers at all? You may need a minima select speedtouch usb driver on kernel settings. Copy you .config where you uncompress your kernel and use make menuconfig (or whatever you want) to select this driver. If I remember well, it is under usb miscelianous menu. snip Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, as I'm using the userspace drivers, I wont recompile my kernel. I have another box that I have tried the kernelspace and probed the speectch module -- however, I'm not sure if it registered properly. That's all water under the bridge though, the userspace drivers should suffice. My silver modem isn't Rev 2.00, it's 4.00. From what I gathered from Gilles's post earlier, that would mean the ZZZLP2.eni firmware should correspond to this revision -- however, modem_run -f ZZZLP2.eni brings the same old story. I'm running out of ideas here... - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6fET3bF34WXq1XsRAo7JAKDZ/efetyMNZjaW2FIPVXVaTGpibACePzYk plWgkXv42B4zudTbboP2IjM= =HKN+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
- Original Message - From: Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, as I'm using the userspace drivers, I wont recompile my kernel. I have another box that I have tried the kernelspace and probed the speectch module -- however, I'm not sure if it registered properly. That's all water under the bridge though, the userspace drivers should suffice. My silver modem isn't Rev 2.00, it's 4.00. From what I gathered from Gilles's post earlier, that would mean the ZZZLP2.eni firmware should correspond to this revision -- however, modem_run -f ZZZLP2.eni brings the same old story. I'm running out of ideas here... - -- Your modem run under windows with wich version of the driver? Is your ADSL line over ISDN? Maybe I am right but it was just a quick look at the windows V3 driver. I completly don't know what is done inside. I just see a new model REV 4.00 named 'Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 (SACHU3)' and a directory named sachu3 with a firmware inside. So it's look clear to me. Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your modem run under windows with wich version of the driver? Is your ADSL line over ISDN? Maybe I am right but it was just a quick look at the windows V3 driver. I completly don't know what is done inside. I just see a new model REV 4.00 named 'Alcatel ADSL adapter 330 (SACHU3)' and a directory named sachu3 with a firmware inside. So it's look clear to me. The Windows driver is version 3, specifically C:\Windows\System\Alcan5wn.sys is version 300.7.0.2 and the Firmware is version 330 1.0.10 (as reported by the SpeedTouch diagnostic application). It's also reporting that the Hardware version is 3572070, I'm not sure how that relates to REV_400 but heh. It's ADSL over PPPoA, not ISDN. I agree that technically the SACHU3 firmware in the $SPEEDTOUCHDIR/Bin/ directory should work but modem_run -f zzz...emi didn't upload it. Is it still so clear? - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6f6J3bF34WXq1XsRAp7oAJ9a0vtGRNPx9643AHJ7GfpeatST4wCfdoQ/ f5uVeO0PeT49FNbE5LxhAfA= =oHM1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Hi Gilles On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:45:38 +0100, Gilles Espinasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: [speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3 Martin On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:48:42 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you're using the kernel space drivers. I have tried them as well as the user space, both without any luck. snip modem_run and pppoa3 is the user space driver modem_run and speedtch.o module is the kernel mode driver As for kernel compilation it should only be nesscary if your distribution kernel hasn't got the required pppoa/n_hdlc and speedtch modules included. As far I know the speedtch driver was included in 2.4.23, so pressuming you're running a recent distribution kernel (from Mandrake, or SuSE for instance) it should be fine. I have 2.4.20 via Suse 8.3 but have downloaded the 2.4.23 kernel to upgrade it. As I said in another email, I don't want to compound the issues. I did look at compiling the new kernel but was a little worried that I wouldn't get it right at all. Are you saying that if I use 2.4.23 then I shouldn't have to worry about installing any drivers at all? You may need a minima select speedtouch usb driver on kernel settings. Copy you .config where you uncompress your kernel and use make menuconfig (or whatever you want) to select this driver. If I remember well, it is under usb miscelianous menu. snip How odd you should post on this just as I am looking at my kernel config following the HOWTO in the firmware_loader subdirectiry. So far I have discovered that not having firmware.bin in the firmware subdirectory caused a fatal error in make. So that is a must have. The error listed alcaudsl.sys, mgmt.o and firmware.bin as not found. I have removed KQD6P2.eni from my firmware directory remade and recompiled I have made a separate copy of my 2.4.20 source tree and loaded menuconfig from with there. I found the USB Support details via the option called USB Support in the main list of options. I have uhci not ohci, and the Prelim USB device filesystem OHCI and UHCI Options all modularised as in the HOWTO. I also have EHCI (USB2.0) support (marked EXPERIMENTAL) as a module. In the same section following the Miscelleaneous and USB Host Controller Sections, I have USB Device Class Drivers allowing for MIDI, Mass Storage, Audio, (bluetooth is out cos I don't have a bluetooth system installed) and then, still in the class system I get these two modules listed USB Modem (CDC ACM Support) Alcatel Speedtouch USB Modem Support. !!! Both of these are listed M for modules. There s a lot of other configurable bits' including USB Cameras, Human Interface Devices, etc etc Now I know I did an upgrade from Suse and I am wondering if my 2.4.20 is patched to be somethingg else or has this install half worked and the last thing that isn't working is the modem itself because of the After that I hunted down the ppp section in Network Device Support and found that I have PPP as per the HOWTO plus a few other PPP modules selected, including PPP over ATM (EXPERIMENTAL) which is a selected as a module. Now it says in the module that I shouldn't need to patch n_hdlc.c beause I have 2.4.20 and the patch was included from 2.4.18 onwards. And all is fine with the Character devices section, the particular options being either included or modularised as per the HOWTO. I conclude therefore that the kernel is ok and ready to roll on this. I then get to the install the drivers section of the howto, which has me stumped a little cos I am on speedbundle not speedtouch. I assume they are the same thing. I've done that bit. Check for the existence of modem run and it's where it should be; try running it using absolute pathname and find i need su privileges. A plain run on modem_run comes back with a help message. Check /dev/*ppp* and find one ppp, sixteen ipppn, and sixteen pppoxn. Note I have pppd v2.4.2b3 and make a copy of /etc/ppp/options then edit the original. Make /etc/ppp/peers/adsl changing the VPI/VCI values appropriately. Check chap_secrets and pap_secrets are ok. Ad the four missing lines to modules.conf I had to add the alias /dev/ppp and all the alias tty-ldisc lines. The remainder were already in modules.conf. Verifications seem ok. All modprobes return nothing, and the mount records /proc/bus/usb is busy. Can't load the firmware because I haven't got alcaudsl.sys and I haven't made mgmt.o yet. Tried getting onto irc.openprojects.net only to find no server. pings give the same response tho I note the existence of www.openprojects.net So all I need to do is get that alcaudsl.sys or try mgmt.o Happy Christmas everybody :) Lesley -- Using M2, Opera's
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Hello again Just thought I'd add to this further: I thought it might be wise to figure out whether I am in kernel space or user space On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:45:38 +0100, Gilles Espinasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - snip On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:48:42 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you're using the kernel space drivers. I have tried them as well as the user space, both without any luck. snip modem_run and pppoa3 is the user space driver modem_run and speedtch.o module is the kernel mode driver I have the speedtch.o module in lib/modules/2.4.20-4GB/kernel/drivers/usb/ modem_run exists and pppoa3 and pppoa2 are sitting in my speedbundle directory I assume that because the pppoan family have not been installed in /usr/local/sbin I am using the hardware drivers. snip I have 2.4.20 via Suse 8.3 but have downloaded the 2.4.23 kernel to upgrade it. As I said in another email, I don't want to compound the issues. I did look at compiling the new kernel but was a little worried that I wouldn't get it right at all. Are you saying that if I use 2.4.23 then I shouldn't have to worry about installing any drivers at all? You may need a minima select speedtouch usb driver on kernel settings. Copy you .config where you uncompress your kernel and use make menuconfig (or whatever you want) to select this driver. If I remember well, it is under usb miscelianous menu. snip Seems I have the drivers all installed in the kernel. Just need to get the firmware sorted out. Lesley -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All installed in the kernel. Just need to get the firmware sorted out. Lesley As do I... Does anyone sucessfully use a rev 4.00 330? Martin - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6i/63bF34WXq1XsRAjZAAKCgeI+OOC1eyMN2rOSOMAGhSfmzrQCg61f3 IMorxX72CHCU1FZ21gbGXew= =24cv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Martin On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:31:54 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As do I... Does anyone sucessfully use a rev 4.00 330? Martin I really don't know if this is going to help I am downloading VMWAre (25 M via 56k dial up wail !!!) then i am going to try and get the alcaudsl sorted from there. VMware does a 30 day trial ( www.vmware.com ) Lesley -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I really don't know if this is going to help I am downloading VMWAre (25 M via 56k dial up wail !!!) then i am going to try and get the alcaudsl sorted from there. VMware does a 30 day trial ( www.vmware.com ) Lesley That would probably work but I would rather not have to emulate the firware -- I would still have to be running Windows AND using ICS. Not to mention that vmware is proprietry! Is that your solution? Martin - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6j5u3bF34WXq1XsRAml4AKD6mef0rxZRbERhyM+XKPP0+nf1BgCg8cLe M1/jVnMqnqVSI0JDrqu5NkY= =QKvE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
Martin On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:33:34 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would probably work but I would rather not have to emulate the firware -- I would still have to be running Windows AND using ICS. Not to mention that vmware is proprietry! Is that your solution? I have already downloaded the Windows drivers from the Thomson Speedtouch website. I don't know if this will work but I hope to be able to extract the Windows drivers and get alcaudsl.sys out. I'll use the 30 day trial of VMWare to see if it can be done. At the moment I have no other need of VMWare so don't plan buying it, simply see if it works as a tool for a job that needs to be done. I have finally finished downloading VMWare and have found my XP disk to install it. Will let you know how it all works out. BTW: I have the Alcatel SpeedTouch CD and although I can mount it under Linux I can't read it under Linux. It was OK in XP. Did you have the same problem? Lesley -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[speedtouch] Re: Further info : Alcatel Speedtouch 330 USB/ Linux kernel 2.4.20, speedbundle 1.0, gcc 3.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 25 December 2003 03:20 am, you wrote: Martin On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:33:34 +, Martin Galpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would probably work but I would rather not have to emulate the firware -- I would still have to be running Windows AND using ICS. Not to mention that vmware is proprietry! Is that your solution? I have already downloaded the Windows drivers from the Thomson Speedtouch website. I don't know if this will work but I hope to be able to extract the Windows drivers and get alcaudsl.sys out. I'll use the 30 day trial of VMWare to see if it can be done. At the moment I have no other need of VMWare so don't plan buying it, simply see if it works as a tool for a job that needs to be done. I have finally finished downloading VMWare and have found my XP disk to install it. Will let you know how it all works out. BTW: I have the Alcatel SpeedTouch CD and although I can mount it under Linux I can't read it under Linux. It was OK in XP. Did you have the same problem? Lesley Why can't you read it? I'll try to read mine in the morning, if it works and yours doesn't I'll just archive them up for you. I'm still very uneasy about using vmware for this. Sure, it'll work if you use the bridged adapator it provides for ethernet (then ppp-that for ICL), but I _really_ don't want to do that. Merry Christmas, Martin - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/6l6O3bF34WXq1XsRAmEzAJ4wWcj8EoeGGwzil6KzeCGCI6gGIgCgqFvG l88LWo+j+UdTTpkEa0oeako= =gUKg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Liste de diffusion modem ALCATEL SpeedTouch USB Pour se désinscrire : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
