Re: [Spit] clutch pin query
Sorry haven't replied sooner. but everyone saying what we are using.. a nice grade8 bolt, threaded at end only.. Fact we just had it all apart to replace the clutch.. I told Henry to STOP litein them wheels up for the girls Don't know WHY he won't listen to father most of the time. I know, I'm just a dummy and don't know nuthin. When you guys recommend something he will listen yah, that pin being good is a KEY to good cluth operation! Donald Stike P.S. He also got the right needle for carb and now Christina is running very good --- Doug Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try real hard to find a bolt that has the unthreaded section sufficiently long to keep the threads from bearing much of the load. Using a threaded bolt as a hinge pin or clevis pin can be a bad idea, because the threads will cut into the other parts and/or get chewed up themselves. If you feel like being a purist and using the original-style pin and sleeve: the sleeve is a bit of corrugated thin springy sheet metal rolled into a cylinder. Its role is to hold the pin in place. If the old was was stil there, you could probably push it (or its fragments) out with a long bolt. But I really wonder why they went with a design where the pin could just fall out... Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Bob Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, This is easy, get a bolt from your local hardware store that is long enough that it has +/- 2 of unthreaded shaft and is the correct size to fit in the hole. I think the shaft is 1/4 or 3/8. Drop this in from the top and then for additional safety thread a nyloc nut onto the end. The nut does not need to be completely tightened down. This will serve as a new pin and will not fall out in the future. Bob Berger 78 Spitfire it your replies! Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
Re: [Spit] clutch pin query
--- Greg Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug's point is very well taken though and if you have a bolt with too much threads, ideally you should fill the extra threads in with something - JB Weld perhaps? Maybe it is best to get a bolt that is too long, and then use a die to cut just the right amount of additional threads on the threaded end. Doug Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
RE: [Spit] clutch pin query
That's exactly what I did... 30+ years ago. Still there... Clark -Original Message- Jim, This is easy, get a bolt from your local hardware store that is long enough that it has +/- 2 of unthreaded shaft and is the correct size to fit in the hole. I think the shaft is 1/4 or 3/8. Drop this in from the top and then for additional safety thread a nyloc nut onto the end. The nut does not need to be completely tightened down. This will serve as a new pin and will not fall out in the future. Bob Berger 78 Spitfire Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
Re: [Spit] clutch pin query
Jim, This is easy, get a bolt from your local hardware store that is long enough that it has +/- 2 of unthreaded shaft and is the correct size to fit in the hole. I think the shaft is 1/4 or 3/8. Drop this in from the top and then for additional safety thread a nyloc nut onto the end. The nut does not need to be completely tightened down. This will serve as a new pin and will not fall out in the future. Bob Berger 78 Spitfire I need some help! The Spitbits online catalogue shows a clutch pin and a sleeve. It has been a long time since I looked at these parts in person and I don't recall anything resembling a sleeve. Also I don't recall exactly how the pin is held in place, whether it is by friction to the fork pin or friction to the bell housing. I'm hoping I can install a new pin without cracking the bell housing from the block. But if a sleeve is supposed to reside within the holes in the pin, I'm not sure there is one now, which means I may have to pull the thing apart after all. What I see now (by mirror) is a hole in the bell housing and holes just about the same diameter in the clutch arm. Am I missing something??? Tanks! -- Jim Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6 Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
RE: [Spit] clutch pin query
Hi Jim, It's been 4-5 years since I did the clutch in my '74 Spit, but I remember having the same questions. The sleeve that you see in the catalog is what holds the pin in. As I recall, it looked like a piece of lightly corrugated metal that had been rolled into a cylinder. It slides into the pivot hole, and then the pin gets driven inside. The interference fit caused by the sleeve is what holds the pin. At the time, I replaced the pin and sleeve in my car, but I hadn't heard about the bolt trick. If I had it to do over, I'd put the bolt in. I say that primarily because I think I'm now in the same boat as you. My clutch is engaging just off the floor, and I'm betting the pin is sliding out of the sleeve. FWIW, I don't think the sleeve will interfere with the bolt fix whether it's in there or not. Put the bolt through, and call it good. Bill Gingerich 1974 Spitfire - Lazarus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Muller Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 5:30 PM To: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spit] clutch pin query I need some help! The Spitbits online catalogue shows a clutch pin and a sleeve. It has been a long time since I looked at these parts in person and I don't recall anything resembling a sleeve. Also I don't recall exactly how the pin is held in place, whether it is by friction to the fork pin or friction to the bell housing. I'm hoping I can install a new pin without cracking the bell housing from the block. But if a sleeve is supposed to reside within the holes in the pin, I'm not sure there is one now, which means I may have to pull the thing apart after all. What I see now (by mirror) is a hole in the bell housing and holes just about the same diameter in the clutch arm. Am I missing something??? Tanks! -- Jim Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] '80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+ Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
Re: [Spit] clutch pin query
Try real hard to find a bolt that has the unthreaded section sufficiently long to keep the threads from bearing much of the load. Using a threaded bolt as a hinge pin or clevis pin can be a bad idea, because the threads will cut into the other parts and/or get chewed up themselves. If you feel like being a purist and using the original-style pin and sleeve: the sleeve is a bit of corrugated thin springy sheet metal rolled into a cylinder. Its role is to hold the pin in place. If the old was was stil there, you could probably push it (or its fragments) out with a long bolt. But I really wonder why they went with a design where the pin could just fall out... Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Bob Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, This is easy, get a bolt from your local hardware store that is long enough that it has +/- 2 of unthreaded shaft and is the correct size to fit in the hole. I think the shaft is 1/4 or 3/8. Drop this in from the top and then for additional safety thread a nyloc nut onto the end. The nut does not need to be completely tightened down. This will serve as a new pin and will not fall out in the future. Bob Berger 78 Spitfire Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
Re: [Spit] clutch pin query
I actually ended up combining the two ideas - a long bolt with a piece of metal flashing cut and then wrapped around the bolt so it acted as a friction pin, an extra pivoting point and a sacrificial surface to the threads (as well as removing some slop). Doug's point is very well taken though and if you have a bolt with too much threads, ideally you should fill the extra threads in with something - JB Weld perhaps? Best! Greg Rowe From: Doug Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Doug Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED], spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spit] clutch pin query Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Try real hard to find a bolt that has the unthreaded section sufficiently long to keep the threads from bearing much of the load. Using a threaded bolt as a hinge pin or clevis pin can be a bad idea, because the threads will cut into the other parts and/or get chewed up themselves. If you feel like being a purist and using the original-style pin and sleeve: the sleeve is a bit of corrugated thin springy sheet metal rolled into a cylinder. Its role is to hold the pin in place. If the old was was stil there, you could probably push it (or its fragments) out with a long bolt. But I really wonder why they went with a design where the pin could just fall out... Doug Braun '72 Spit --- Bob Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, This is easy, get a bolt from your local hardware store that is long enough that it has +/- 2 of unthreaded shaft and is the correct size to fit in the hole. I think the shaft is 1/4 or 3/8. Drop this in from the top and then for additional safety thread a nyloc nut onto the end. The nut does not need to be completely tightened down. This will serve as a new pin and will not fall out in the future. Bob Berger 78 Spitfire _ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === This list supported in part by The Vintage Triumph Register === http://www.vtr.org === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies!
