Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
I just updated my local server yesterday.looks like it’s about ready. Please keep in mind that LMS8 might prompt the user to update daily (or whenever there's a change being comitted). That's probably not for everybody... -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
cfuttrup wrote: > Thank you to all for the quality feedback. > > Thank you Greg for reminding me that Squeezelite can be disabled. I > haven't thought about that. Presumably then the 'player' doesn't exist > and doesn't show up in the list of players - which is what I want. > > About the UPS, some of us might feel we can just go in and fix a > problem, if it shows up, but I much prefer no problems at all, hence the > UPS. My feel for the USB based power supply to RPis is that they're a > bit sensitive to connection failure. The trick is to shut down LMS > nicely, but again without experience I am just assuming this is easily > implemented with a script - most UPS's communicate over the I2C port. It > will require a small (tiny) hack. > > Technically one wouldn't need a shutdown button, since pulling the plug > will trigger the UPS to execute a soft shutdown... but if the UPS comes > with a button, I'd accept and drill a hole in the case for it. > > I agree one could just keep the music collection on a NAS, but I also > like the idea that with the server (with storage) and the player, one > can bring these two devices to other places (family and friends, > vacation homes, Hi-Fi show rooms). Just plug the devices in and connect > over a simple network (a switch should do). > > I like the idea of two USB-pens and one of them as failover ... I guess > this is the only part, which isn't straightforward in the current > piCorePlayer-based server. > > Is there any way to manage your music collection on piCore'Server' ... ? > ... I'm thinking about something user friendly, maybe GUI based? > > Best regards, > Claus Managing your collection. I assume you mean moving files, adding new etc You can easily install and enable Samba or if Windows use something like WinSCP and dont bother with Samba at all. Moving locations. Yes easy as long as you know how to identify its new IP on a Friends etc network. Ideally a server should have a static (DHCP reserved IP) but obviously it will pick up a new one when it moves around. If using a player as well on the same Pi then inside Squeezelite settings set the connect to server as 127.0.0.1 (will always then try to connect to the LMS running on the same Pi) VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
d6jg wrote: > I timed it today. Not including installing plugins and upgrading LMS to > v8 it was less than 10 mins. I have done it quite a few times though. > > PS I think maybe 8.0 should now be the version pCP installs by default I just updated my local server yesterday.looks like its about ready. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=U7JHY5WYHCNRU=GB_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
Thank you to all for the quality feedback. Thank you Greg for reminding me that Squeezelite can be disabled. I haven't thought about that. Presumably then the 'player' doesn't exist and doesn't show up in the list of players - which is what I want. About the UPS, some of us might feel we can just go in and fix a problem, if it shows up, but I much prefer no problems at all, hence the UPS. My feel for the USB based power supply to RPis is that they're a bit sensitive to connection failure. The trick is to shut down LMS nicely, but again without experience I am just assuming this is easily implemented with a script - most UPS's communicate over the I2C port. It will require a small (tiny) hack. Technically one wouldn't need a shutdown button, since pulling the plug will trigger the UPS to execute a soft shutdown... but if the UPS comes with a button, I'd accept and drill a hole in the case for it. I agree one could just keep the music collection on a NAS, but I also like the idea that with the server (with storage) and the player, one can bring these two devices to other places (family and friends, vacation homes, Hi-Fi show rooms). Just plug the devices in and connect over a simple network (a switch should do). I like the idea of two USB-pens and one of them as failover ... I guess this is the only part, which isn't straightforward in the current piCorePlayer-based server. Is there any way to manage your music collection on piCore'Server' ... ? ... I'm thinking about something user friendly, maybe GUI based? Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
If you search for an easy way to shutdown such a Pi with LMS, you can look into this thread: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111546-Using-Argon-One-case-with-fan-and-powerbutton-together-with-piCorePlayer=961984=1#post961984 You will find the script which is necessary to make use of the power button of that enclosure together with piCorePlayer which is customized by paul-. This works very well! carsten_h's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
cfuttrup wrote: > ... a hardware 'requirement' (or at least strong recommendation) > could be to attach a UPS with a small battery. The UPS must support > 'soft' shutdown, such that > the LMS database survives. There are several UPS Pi HATs available -- see, eg, https://www.google.com/search?q=raspberry+pi+ups+HAT SpiderJon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
Greg Erskine wrote: > Hey Claus, > > Good news. I think everything you want has been done. :) > > I've been running LMS on RPi''s not long after the original RPi was > released. > > We decide to keep piCorePlayer as a single image for both player and > server. Just install the LMS extension and turn off squeezelite if you > want. > > I agree with Paul Webster regarding UPS and backups, depending on a > reasonable power in your area. > > With a bit of practice it takes about 5 minutes to build a player and > about 15 minutes for a server. > > regards > Greg I timed it today. Not including installing plugins and upgrading LMS to v8 it was less than 10 mins. I have done it quite a few times though. PS I think maybe 8.0 should now be the version pCP installs by default VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
And you dont have to trash your Synology NAS. Keep your music there and mount it as a drive from within piCorePlayer so LMS can use it. As long as both devices are wired there wont be any issue whatsoever VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
Hey Claus, Good news. I think everything you want has been done. :) I've been running LMS on RPi''s not long after the original RPi was released. We decide to keep piCorePlayer as a single image for both player and server. Just install the LMS extension and turn off squeezelite if you want. I agree with Paul Webster regarding UPS and backups, depending on a reasonable power in your area. With a bit of practice it takes about 5 minutes to build a player and about 15 minutes for a server. regards Greg Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
There are a lot of people here and elsewhere using a Raspberry Pi to run LMS - and many using pCP to do it (it is not just a player). Unless you live in a area with lots of power cuts it is probably not worth (in my opinion) worrying much about losing the system on a bad power down event. A backup (or 2) of the music library is usually enough. A rebuild (or using SD card backup) of LMS with a complete rescan of the library is probably good enough for most. Unless you really care about last played date or personal ratings for tracks then you can consider much of the LMS database as fairly easy to recreate. The time comes in configuring plugins or special audio hardware - but those are things that are changed infrequently so a backup can be done easily enough. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
With Synology officially discarding support, I wonder what happens when my DiskStation needs replacement? Could a Raspberry Pi server (not player) loaded with LMS be designed and built? Would it be posible to make something Tiny Core / piCore based, but not a player, maybe name it piCoreServer? Since LMS requires a nice shutdown, a hardware 'requirement' (or at least strong recommendation) could be to attach a UPS with a small battery. The UPS must support 'soft' shutdown, such that the LMS database survives. Something with just one minute of battery operation is required. I like PiJuice a lot, but is this product on the way out of the market? PiJuice is maybe a bit expensive, and replaced by lower-cost alternatives? Let me know if you have any information about this. The idea of a product that doesn't require any battery service, e.g. with supercaps, sounds attractive to me. Other than that, this LMS server solution requires some sort of storage support, either with a good size USB SSD - is it available in a pen format? Reliability is king. Can we support two disks (a primary and a backup w. failover that is normally inactive during reading and therefore with less wear)? If yes, maybe lower cost flash drives are OK. On the server side, it should be easy to administrate your music collection and rescan. Preferably easy to upload music, maybe easy to delete certain music, if unwanted, etc. Anything else server-side, which is desirable? Maintenance options? Easy software updates? We don't need an audio card, since this is a server that I'll stove away. Is any sort of display and/or loudspeaker (for acoustic information) required or desired? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
