Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Content Rating Labels
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 21:18, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > On Dienstag, 9. März 2021 21:54:37 CET Florian Schmaus wrote: > > On 3/9/21 9:11 PM, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: > > > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > > > > > Title: Content Rating Labels > > > Abstract: > > > This specification provides a wire format in the form of a Service > > > Discovery extension to allow services of various kinds to publish > > > information about the kind of content they allow and/or endorse on > > > their platform. > > > > > > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/content-ratings.html > > > > Thanks for the ProtoXEP submission. > > > > FWIW I find it strange that we put a ProtoXEP up for a vote that has not > > filled all required sections. I know we have been lax about this > > regarding the "XML Schema" section of experimental XEPs, and I think > > this is perfectly fine and understandable. But I like to see every > > ProtoXEP have a filled-out "Security Considerations" section, as this > > demonstrates that the authors have, at least briefly, thought about > > security. XEP-0001 § 12 has some good advice on that section. > > I agree with you on all points, in general. > > I disagree with you on all points, in general. :-) Yes, having these filled in is great, but the purpose of Experimental is to work on the spec as much as the protocol itself, and I'm generally happy to worry about mandatory sections later as long as I can understand the general design and intent. > I did specifically not fill in some sections (such as Security > Considerations) > because I wasn’t sure about them yet. I thought it would be worthwhile to > develop this section under the XSF IPR because frankly I’m sure I cannot > cover > it completely. > > And this is the thing - getting work under the IPR policy is at the very least as important as getting security considerations etc filled in, and these have a tension between them. Dave. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Content Rating Labels
On Dienstag, 9. März 2021 21:54:37 CET Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 3/9/21 9:11 PM, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: > > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > > > Title: Content Rating Labels > > Abstract: > > This specification provides a wire format in the form of a Service > > Discovery extension to allow services of various kinds to publish > > information about the kind of content they allow and/or endorse on > > their platform. > > > > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/content-ratings.html > > Thanks for the ProtoXEP submission. > > FWIW I find it strange that we put a ProtoXEP up for a vote that has not > filled all required sections. I know we have been lax about this > regarding the "XML Schema" section of experimental XEPs, and I think > this is perfectly fine and understandable. But I like to see every > ProtoXEP have a filled-out "Security Considerations" section, as this > demonstrates that the authors have, at least briefly, thought about > security. XEP-0001 § 12 has some good advice on that section. I agree with you on all points, in general. I did specifically not fill in some sections (such as Security Considerations) because I wasn’t sure about them yet. I thought it would be worthwhile to develop this section under the XSF IPR because frankly I’m sure I cannot cover it completely. > For the "IANA Considerations" sections, it is often enough to write > >This document requires no interaction with the Internet Assigned >Numbers Authority (IANA) > > if applicable. Yep, I should’ve just C that one. > And even though the XSF registrar position appears to be more or less > vacant at the moment, it would be nice to have the according namespace > and FORM_FIELD registration in the "XMPP Registrar Considerations" section. Also true, I admit I was just lazy here. There’s also (as an author) a trade-off to be made about how much attention to these "formal" sections to pay before even knowing whether it will be worth the effort ;). Now I’d still like to hear comments about the contents of the thing itself, though. kind regards, Jonas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Content Rating Labels
On 3/9/21 9:11 PM, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Content Rating Labels Abstract: This specification provides a wire format in the form of a Service Discovery extension to allow services of various kinds to publish information about the kind of content they allow and/or endorse on their platform. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/content-ratings.html Thanks for the ProtoXEP submission. FWIW I find it strange that we put a ProtoXEP up for a vote that has not filled all required sections. I know we have been lax about this regarding the "XML Schema" section of experimental XEPs, and I think this is perfectly fine and understandable. But I like to see every ProtoXEP have a filled-out "Security Considerations" section, as this demonstrates that the authors have, at least briefly, thought about security. XEP-0001 § 12 has some good advice on that section. For the "IANA Considerations" sections, it is often enough to write This document requires no interaction with the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) if applicable. And even though the XSF registrar position appears to be more or less vacant at the moment, it would be nice to have the according namespace and FORM_FIELD registration in the "XMPP Registrar Considerations" section. - Florian OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Content Rating Labels
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Content Rating Labels Abstract: This specification provides a wire format in the form of a Service Discovery extension to allow services of various kinds to publish information about the kind of content they allow and/or endorse on their platform. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/content-ratings.html The Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this proposal as an official XEP. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
