Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread Kathryn A. Graham
Thanks so much to Luke and others for your response!  I am attempting to
implement Frost as I type this, and I got a good laugh over sending IP
address to the NSA.  I tried Freetalk as well, with the same result as
FMS.  No captchas downloaded no matter what I did.  As you can tell by
the delay in my answering your message, I tried it for a couple of
days.  I think it is safe to say that no captchas were *going* to
download, which concerns me.  There is evidently something in my
configuration that is preventing me from using Web of Trust, although I
can't figure out what it is.

I have forwarded ports 11231, 57881, 9481 through my router and opened
them through my firewall (Zone Alarm Pro) as well.  I have confirmed
that Windows Firewall is *not* running.  I have also rebooted several
times. g  If there is something else I should check, I would
appreciate learning about it.  My Windows version is XP Pro, latest
updates and service packs.

I've just minimized this message and noticed that Frost is hung at about
2/3 in its starting sequence.  I am now going to go drink a large cup of
hemlock.  sigh

A few moments later, it wants me to check my node is running - but it
says it will start anyway.  Node is definitely running.  I have
confirmed that the service is running, and through the web interface, I
can see that I am connected to one friend and 11 strangers.  Now Frost
is using about 55 percent of my CPU and doing nothing that I can see,
but the splash screen has finally gone away.  

An hour later - my HD is being accessed like crazy, but still no sign of
any application.  I'm clearly going to have to reboot.

Terribly, terribly frustrating.  And the guy that maintains the active
links page wants new sites announced in FMS, so even if I do get Frost
working, somehow I still have to get Web of Trust stuff working also. 
I'm about to throw up my hands and give up.  Not worth it.  Damned
shame, too - I'd already created a flog and an active link - needed only
to write first blog entry and get it up there.  Gr. 

Please - any help greatly appreciated.

Kate


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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:17:42 -0500, Kathryn A. Graham wrote:
 Terribly, terribly frustrating. [...] I'm about to throw up my hands
 and give up.

That's part of the installation procedure.
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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread Kathryn A. Graham
Naughty, naughty, Dennis!  It's not nice to f**k with Mother Nature, lol.

Believe it or not, I reinstalled FMS - if at first, you don't succeed,
start over at the beginning, lol.  Guess what?  I'm starting to see
captchas - and messages.

Go figure . . .

Kate



Dennis Nezic wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:17:42 -0500, Kathryn A. Graham wrote:
   
 Terribly, terribly frustrating. [...] I'm about to throw up my hands
 and give up.
 

 That's part of the installation procedure.
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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
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Kathryn A. Graham wrote:
 Thanks so much to Luke and others for your response!  I am attempting to
 implement Frost as I type this, and I got a good laugh over sending IP
 address to the NSA.  I tried Freetalk as well, with the same result as
 FMS.  No captchas downloaded no matter what I did.  As you can tell by
 the delay in my answering your message, I tried it for a couple of
 days.  I think it is safe to say that no captchas were *going* to
 download, which concerns me.  There is evidently something in my
 configuration that is preventing me from using Web of Trust, although I
 can't figure out what it is.
 
 I have forwarded ports 11231, 57881, 9481 through my router and opened
 them through my firewall (Zone Alarm Pro) as well.  I have confirmed
 that Windows Firewall is *not* running.  I have also rebooted several
 times. g  If there is something else I should check, I would
 appreciate learning about it.  My Windows version is XP Pro, latest
 updates and service packs.
 
 I've just minimized this message and noticed that Frost is hung at about
 2/3 in its starting sequence.  I am now going to go drink a large cup of
 hemlock.  sigh
 
 A few moments later, it wants me to check my node is running - but it
 says it will start anyway.  Node is definitely running.  I have
 confirmed that the service is running, and through the web interface, I
 can see that I am connected to one friend and 11 strangers.  Now Frost
 is using about 55 percent of my CPU and doing nothing that I can see,
 but the splash screen has finally gone away.  
 
 An hour later - my HD is being accessed like crazy, but still no sign of
 any application.  I'm clearly going to have to reboot.
 
 Terribly, terribly frustrating.  And the guy that maintains the active
 links page wants new sites announced in FMS, so even if I do get Frost
 working, somehow I still have to get Web of Trust stuff working also. 
 I'm about to throw up my hands and give up.  Not worth it.  Damned
 shame, too - I'd already created a flog and an active link - needed only
 to write first blog entry and get it up there.  Gr. 
 
 Please - any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Kate

I can't help you with FMS, i've given up on that (i'm not going to rant about
it). It's still used by a few people but from what my node picks up there are
significantly more active conversations on Frost, unfortunately developers have
stopped reading all the bug reports there *cough*.

The problem seems to be that something has stopped Frost connecting to your
node. Is your node running on the same machine? If so then you did *not* need to
forward 9481 port on the router, but you might have needed to open it on Zone
Alarm anyhow (i'm not sure). Now, Zone Alarm also keeps track of what
applications try to access the network, Frost needs to be one of them, even
though it only accesses the node (and i believe you can specify that) it needs
to have that access, otherwise that might be causing the problem.

Can you check that and get back to me on the list?

 - Volodya

P.S. You don't want to post the Node ports on the open list, because this way
others will be able to know that it's you who has connected to them. Of course
if it doesn't matter, then it's ok, but it creates an atmosphere where others
may slip and post that info also.


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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
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Kathryn A. Graham wrote:
 Thanks so much to Luke and others for your response!  I am attempting to
 implement Frost as I type this, and I got a good laugh over sending IP
 address to the NSA.  I tried Freetalk as well, with the same result as
 FMS.  No captchas downloaded no matter what I did.  As you can tell by
 the delay in my answering your message, I tried it for a couple of
 days.  I think it is safe to say that no captchas were *going* to
 download, which concerns me.  There is evidently something in my
 configuration that is preventing me from using Web of Trust, although I
 can't figure out what it is.
 
 I have forwarded ports 11231, 57881, 9481 through my router and opened
 them through my firewall (Zone Alarm Pro) as well.  I have confirmed
 that Windows Firewall is *not* running.  I have also rebooted several
 times. g  If there is something else I should check, I would
 appreciate learning about it.  My Windows version is XP Pro, latest
 updates and service packs.
 
 I've just minimized this message and noticed that Frost is hung at about
 2/3 in its starting sequence.  I am now going to go drink a large cup of
 hemlock.  sigh
 
 A few moments later, it wants me to check my node is running - but it
 says it will start anyway.  Node is definitely running.  I have
 confirmed that the service is running, and through the web interface, I
 can see that I am connected to one friend and 11 strangers.  Now Frost
 is using about 55 percent of my CPU and doing nothing that I can see,
 but the splash screen has finally gone away.  
 
 An hour later - my HD is being accessed like crazy, but still no sign of
 any application.  I'm clearly going to have to reboot.
 
 Terribly, terribly frustrating.  And the guy that maintains the active
 links page wants new sites announced in FMS, so even if I do get Frost
 working, somehow I still have to get Web of Trust stuff working also. 
 I'm about to throw up my hands and give up.  Not worth it.  Damned
 shame, too - I'd already created a flog and an active link - needed only
 to write first blog entry and get it up there.  Gr. 
 
 Please - any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Kate
 
 

One more thing, if your node is on the different machine than the Frost, (which
would be the case if you had to forward port 9481) then you have to tell the
frost where to find the node before starting it. Look for 'config' directory
wherever frost is, and edit the file 'frost.ini' (when frost is not running) you
should have a line like:
availableNodes=127.0.0.1:9481

You need to change 127.0.0.1 to the ip address of where your node is.

Of course this is assuming that your node is at the different machine than 
Frost.

   - Volodya

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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread Kathryn A. Graham

Thanks for your suggestions, Volodya.

No, my node is definitely on the same machine where I am trying to run
Frost.  I'm on a home network, but my other half is no computer whiz,
and I am the only one experimenting with Freenet as yet.  He will be my
test case once I get comfortable with this stuff, and before I try to
write any book chapters about Freenet.  If he can do it, any Windows
user can, lol.

I've checked the ZA programs listing and Frost is not listed as such -
merely as an instance of Java.  I've given Java more access than I am
completely comfortable with, but Frost still cannot connect to my node
at all.   I've tried turning ZA and Avast off completely, but it still
does not work.  The Web of Trust plugin is not working either (for
Freetalk).  Just FMS, and only since I reinstalled it a little while
ago.  I'm not successfully announced yet, of course, but a few captchas
are trickling in and I can read some messages.

I'm heartened by tentative success with FMS, and I'm going to reinstall
Web of Trust and see if I can get that working now for Freetalk.

Kate


 One more thing, if your node is on the different machine than the
 Frost, (which
 would be the case if you had to forward port 9481) then you have to
 tell the
 frost where to find the node before starting it. Look for 'config'
 directory
 wherever frost is, and edit the file 'frost.ini' (when frost is not
 running) you
 should have a line like:
 availableNodes=127.0.0.1:9481

 You need to change 127.0.0.1 to the ip address of where your node is.

 Of course this is assuming that your node is at the different machine
 than Frost.

- Volodya


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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
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Kathryn A. Graham wrote:
 Thanks for your suggestions, Volodya.
 
 No, my node is definitely on the same machine where I am trying to run
 Frost.  I'm on a home network, but my other half is no computer whiz,
 and I am the only one experimenting with Freenet as yet.  He will be my
 test case once I get comfortable with this stuff, and before I try to
 write any book chapters about Freenet.  If he can do it, any Windows
 user can, lol.
 
 I've checked the ZA programs listing and Frost is not listed as such -
 merely as an instance of Java.  I've given Java more access than I am
 completely comfortable with, but Frost still cannot connect to my node
 at all.   I've tried turning ZA and Avast off completely, but it still
 does not work.  The Web of Trust plugin is not working either (for
 Freetalk).  Just FMS, and only since I reinstalled it a little while
 ago.  I'm not successfully announced yet, of course, but a few captchas
 are trickling in and I can read some messages.
 
 I'm heartened by tentative success with FMS, and I'm going to reinstall
 Web of Trust and see if I can get that working now for Freetalk.
 
 Kate

This is very very strange. FMS is working when Frost isn't, perhaps an insulting
question, but where did you get the version of Frost you are running? Can you go
to the frost.ini in the config directory and check availableNodes setting?

   - Volodya

 One more thing, if your node is on the different machine than the
 Frost, (which
 would be the case if you had to forward port 9481) then you have to
 tell the
 frost where to find the node before starting it. Look for 'config'
 directory
 wherever frost is, and edit the file 'frost.ini' (when frost is not
 running) you
 should have a line like:
 availableNodes=127.0.0.1:9481

 You need to change 127.0.0.1 to the ip address of where your node is.

 Of course this is assuming that your node is at the different machine
 than Frost.

- Volodya

 


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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

2009-06-29 Thread Kathryn A. Graham
Hi, Volodya,

No worries.  There is no such thing as an insulting question when
something isn't working.  I worked support enough years to have a thick
skin anyway.

I got Frost from the alpha/plugins directory at
downloads.freenetproject.org.  However, no worries there.  I downloaded
Frost again, removed the old, and tried from scratch - and bingo, it's
working.  I did the same with Freemail, and it is suddenly working also,
lol.  Evidently, third time is the charm. 

I am coming to the conclusion that being stubborn is an asset in this
business.

WoT and Freetalk are still not working - not even after a reinstall of
the unofficial plugins - but as somebody just pointed out, they are
still a work in progress. 

Does anyone know when Freenet 0.8 is expected?  I understand Freetalk
will be bundled with it, and I hope it can be persuaded to work by then.

Many thanks for all the help!

Kate




 This is very very strange. FMS is working when Frost isn't, perhaps an
 insulting
 question, but where did you get the version of Frost you are running?
 Can you go
 to the frost.ini in the config directory and check availableNodes setting?

- Volodya

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