[freenet-support] Mac - Java
Java to old. Instelled versions: Java Applications: Java SE6 64-bit J2SE 5.0 64-bit J2SE 5.0 32-bit J2se 1.4.2 32-bit That's all I could get via software update. Thanks for help. P. -- Wykonaj diagnostyke skory i odbierz swoj Prezent! http://link.interia.pl/f22f1 ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet inside LAN
Evan Daniel wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:14 PM, David R.ellimi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:40 AM, David R. ellimi...@gmail.com wrote: I've just found Freenet, and it looks really great. I've always considered freedom of speech pretty much the most important thing you can have, so I love what this is doing. Anyway, I've had what seems to be a good idea - set up people at my school to use freenet. I'm planning to bundle it with a few other apps (tor, firefox+privacy addons, utorrent, etc) and let people download it and put it on their flash drives, and run it whenever they get on a school computer. As they did this, they'd connect to a mini-freenet (darknet of course), within the school. The main problem I've got here is that freenet doesn't work over LAN, or at least I can't figure out how to make it do so. I don't want one computer on freenet, and the others running a browser pointed to 192.168.1.X. I want to set up a darknet composed of computers within the same LAN. If anyone knows how I could do this, or could suggest another way to do it (I tried WASTE, and couldnt get it going either) I would very much appreciate it. Thanks, Ellimistd The Freenet program has no idea if an IP address is a LAN or WAN address. Because it can not know your exact network settings. The only thing it does is sending packets to other IP addresses. Your users should always point their browsers to 127.0.0.1, not external IP address, since fproxy binds to loopback interface, not external interfaces, otherwise it would require authentification to connect to the node. When you get 3-4 nodes up running, you can try to connect them by exchanging noderefs. to do all this in pure darknet (without access to internet) just remove seednodes.fref file in freenet's root directory. You may put it back when you decide to use opennet. However, since you use LAN, you should probably not use opennet connections, since it is WERY easy to find out that you run freenet when you do so. Hope this helps. No need to delete the seednodes file. Just turn off opennet on the config screen. Running opennet on the LAN should work just fine, with no more security issues than running opennet anywhere else. I've run two nodes on the same LAN; it doesn't require any special configuration. I just turned on opennet on both, then exchanged darknet refs, and they connected over the LAN and connected to the outside world, and it all just worked. Evan Daniel ___ ___ Exellent, it works perfectly (in my test, at least. I have yet to try it for for it's real purpose). I don't know why it didn't before, but whatever. Still, I may have another problem - is freenet portable? If I run the installer to install to a flash drive, put firefox-portable on that drive, write a batch script to start freenet and open firefox to 127.0.0.1:, will it work on another computer? (assuming that computer has java). It doesn't seem like freenet would _need_ any registry entries to function, but I'd like to be sure, and i'm not certain I'd catch everything if I did it myself. -Ellimistd Yes and no. It will run just fine, however you'll lose things like the automatic start at bootup. Also, Freenet is not expected to work well with low uptime; it really, really wants to run 24x7 or close to it. Connecting for a couple hours a day won't work nearly as well. Also, I highly recommend using a data store of several GB, which is getting large by flash drive standards. Evan Daniel (top posting corrected) I think that one very important detail has been missed here. As I understand, the idea is to have a bunch of applications on an USB stick, including Freenet. Now, while it is true that Freenet will run on any computer that has a compatible JRE installed, on the other hand Freenet is not that kind of application. It won't work well if you start Freenet, access a freesite or two, download a file, and shut down right away. Freenet needs to keep running as long as possible, ideally 24/7. It is possible (I'd say even probable... but I don't really know) that running a mini-freenet that is disconnected from the Freenet network, single nodes may work well with less uptime/day, but that's a wild guess. Besides if ONE of those users decided to connect to the main network (e.g. using Opennet, or exchanging darknet refs with a user outside of the school) the whole mini-freenet' would become a part of the freenet network, which on one hand is all about freedom of speech and all these noce things but on the other hand it's as good as guaranteed that some parents
Re: [freenet-support] Mac - Java
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 20:01:44 Plantaginus wrote: Java to old. Instelled versions: Java Applications: Java SE6 64-bit J2SE 5.0 64-bit J2SE 5.0 32-bit J2se 1.4.2 32-bit That's all I could get via software update. Known problem, Apple's fault. Sorry, not much we can do until Apple releases a new JVM based on 1.6.0_15 or 1.5.0_20. Thanks for help. P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Mac - Java
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 20:01:44 Plantaginus wrote: Java to old. Instelled versions: Java Applications: Java SE6 64-bit J2SE 5.0 64-bit J2SE 5.0 32-bit J2se 1.4.2 32-bit That's all I could get via software update. Known problem, Apple's fault. Sorry, not much we can do until Apple releases a new JVM based on 1.6.0_15 or 1.5.0_20. I believe OSX 10.6 includes updated versions. Apparently Apple doesn't consider remote code execution vulnerabilities serious enough to warrant a rapid patch to older versions of OSX, though. Evan Daniel ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] ?spam? Re: ?spam? Re: ?spam? Re: Peer IP address leakage?
On Monday 24 August 2009 05:06:02 Michael Yip wrote: Michael Yip wrote: Evan Daniel wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Michael Yipmhy...@cs.bham.ac.uk wrote: Dsoslglece wrote: Michael Yip a écrit : Hi, My name is Michael and I'm currently studying the source code of Freenet. I have found that the object reference for all PeerNode objects has the IP address of the peer associated with it. How is anonymity kept with the IP of the peer exposed? I have examined the log file and it seems the object reference of the peers are logged as they are added. What I'm confused is since Freenet seek to promote freedom of speech in the presence of strict government control, if they decide to run a Freenet node and collect IP addresses in this manner, the consequences would be unthinkable I have tested this by adding another node of mine and my IP address appears as expected. Can anyone explain to me why?? Thanks, Michael ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe Hi Michael... it is correct that your IP would be known by your neighbour node, but, he is the only one to be able to identify you... more, and beside the fact of being able to be sure that you are using Freenet (only sure of this), even so, he has no way of knowing if the info or file or whatever, coming to you, or going from you, did or not come or go 10 nodes away from you, since you act also (as a node) in passing packets... and anyway, even so, he is (and you are, and any of your neighbours) unable to know the content of the package, if you didn't create it yourself or ask yourself for it since only the original sender and final receiver are able to know it's content. Hope it was clear... Hi, Thanks for your reply. Taking from the point that IP addresses are known to your peers, I have another question. I've noticed that the hop-to-live counter is decremented according to the policy of: 1) the source node of the request, 2) the node which recently reported fail for a data request or 3) the node handling the request (usually because the node is the source of the request) Ok, so what if I modify the code for my node so that: 1) maxHTL = 1 2) decrementAtMin = false 3) disableProbabilisticHTLs = false Would this mean that my peers would not forward my message any further? This is because if so, this would allow me to probe my peers using my set of keys for data Your peers will sometimes pass on requests at min htl, specifically to avoid this problem. That's what the probabilistic htl thing is for. Turning off probabilistic htl only turns it off on your node; it doesn't change your peers config, obviously. So turning it off will let other people probe your store, but doesn't help you probe theirs. Evan Daniel Hi Evan, But what I've found from the source code (the Node class and the RequestSender class) is that the HTL of a request would actually be decremented according to the SOURCE of a request (that is, if a source exists e.g. the node is forwarding a request). Also, it could also be decremented according to the most recently failed node if the request has been forwarded beforehand. Only if neither exists would the request be decremented according to the node handling the request. This is at least as far as I understand from the source code so if anyone can point out otherwise, I would be glad to hear it. Thanks, Michael ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe Hi all, After examining the source code further, I have found that the peers of a node which are represented by the class PeerNode, have their own set of probablistic HTL factors. Such factors (decrementHTLAtMaximum and decrementHTLAtMinimum) in the PeerNode DO NOT actually follow the factors of the peers they represent. This means that each Freenet node actually has full control over how it decrements the HTL of the requests that it processes. This means that the peer which sent the request has no control over how the HTL of that request is to be decremented at the destination node. Thus, a node cannot probe by setting its maxHTL value to 1 and disableProbablisticHTL
Re: [freenet-support] Backed off weirdness in freenet 1232
On Saturday 22 August 2009 07:05:11 Toni Bergman wrote: - Freenet 0.7.5 Build #1232 build01232 - Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 So far I've understood the backoff percentages in advanced connection details but no longer. The attached picture shows what I'm saying. What ticks me off the most is being connected for over 90 minutes to peers that are 99,9 % of the time backed off. This defeats the purpose of having 32 peers with output of 90 kB/s. The bug I'm reporting is something I didn't see before. Note the values backed off wait time remaining and time total. Time total is now smaller than the time remaining. Seems to be happening with several peers. Hows about giving the peers a loser rating and connect the losers together. Sure they won't be able to download anything but they won't be slowing me down either, which is the most important thing, since I'm the most important person in the world. % Time Routable is the proportion of time when it is NOT backed off. That node looks reasonable. Freenet will however drop peers that are less effective than its other peers: when we have the opportunity to add a new node, we drop the least recently successful peer (subject to various limits). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:22:22 Evan Daniel wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote: He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether F2F is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that F2F and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are actually not violating that particular network's guidelines. Actually, darknet peers inside LAN are not violating ToS, because the inside-network traffic is not an issue. The actual problem is that a bunch of p2p users seeding and leeching from internet can consume every possible bit of channel available on the ISP's connection. That's why they are illegal. The traffic for each user is virtually unlimited, but if you do the math, you will see that without p2p you just can not consume even 2 mbit/s channel, and we provide 10 mbit/s. Thus, when the user is downloading something big from time to time - it works just nice. But when he fills up at list 5 mbit/s with 24/7 p2p exchange the traffic utilization is much bigger than it should be. I have proposed to the managers that we allow p2p for extra charge (or with limited QoS), but they have decided that it will not work out (all that piracy stuff is still an issue). Online gamers are not always client-server. I have stated spring as a typical random-server udp-based game (ta-spring.com), the Company Of heroes also works similarily - host is a random node, and all nodes are interconnected. Indeed, 24x7 active connections can be suspicious, so I hope you will counter this problem so that I don't bother setting up filter. I suggest breaking every single connection that lasts for more than 1 hour, if it is not unique, and then reconnecting after random delay. PS: fuck bosses, I run freenet node myself=) Last I checked, p2p wasn't illegal in any place I know of :) This sounds to me like you really just need better QoS for your users, not to block P2P. It's relatively easy to allocate bandwidth such that everyone gets their fair share, and those that use it *less* get priority over the short term. That means that p2p users can use up any excess bandwidth, but if someone else is just trying to browse the web it will go quickly. Piracy is not the point of Freenet; please don't assume anyone running Freenet is a pirate. You should consult a lawyer about your liability for piracy -- I suspect, however, that you aren't liable until you are notified of a *specific* problem. Also, have you tried just asking your users to set reasonable bandwidth limits? All p2p apps I know of, including Freenet, provide bandwidth limiting controls. Perhaps you should simply inform your users of the situation and what you consider a reasonable bw limit for p2p apps. Or give them a quota and charge for usage beyond that. Or throttle them after it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:04:28 Alex Pyattaev wrote: He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether F2F is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that F2F and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are actually not violating that particular network's guidelines. Actually, darknet peers inside LAN are not violating ToS, because the inside-network traffic is not an issue. The actual problem is that a bunch of p2p users seeding and leeching from internet can consume every possible bit of channel available on the ISP's connection. That's why they are illegal. The traffic for each user is virtually unlimited, but if you do the math, you will see that without p2p you just can not consume even 2 mbit/s channel, and we provide 10 mbit/s. Thus, when the user is downloading something big from time to time - it works just nice. But when he fills up at list 5 mbit/s with 24/7 p2p exchange the traffic utilization is much bigger than it should be. I have proposed to the managers that we allow p2p for extra charge (or with limited QoS), but they have decided that it will not work out (all that piracy stuff is still an issue). Online gamers are not always client-server. I have stated spring as a typical random-server udp-based game (ta-spring.com), the Company Of heroes also works similarily - host is a random node, and all nodes are interconnected. Ooh, that is interesting. Added to the stego wiki page. Indeed, 24x7 active connections can be suspicious, so I hope you will counter this problem so that I don't bother setting up filter. I suggest breaking every single connection that lasts for more than 1 hour, if it is not unique, and then reconnecting after random delay. Well, opennet has high enough churn that this isn't a problem. Darknet on the other hand is a problem: you have a fixed and probably small set of peers, Freenet needs to run 24x7 for good performance, sacrificing even more uptime/connectivity is not really viable at the moment. However in future it may be, we have some features planned that may help with this (e.g. long-term requests). PS: fuck bosses, I run freenet node myself=) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Time to fill datastore
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 18:19:24 Evan Daniel wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Samtest...@codingninjas.org wrote: Hello, I am wondering how long it should take to fill up the datastore of 100g that I setup? It has only filled up about 10g of the 50g (datastore half of datastore). This node has been running 24/7 for almost a year now with the setting of 100g for datastore. The connection speed is 100kB/sec up and down and it averages close to that. I rarely download anything from freenet, but shouldn't other peoples traffic cause my datastore to be filled up by a year of running at 100kB/sec!? Is that normal that it is so incredibly under utilizing the space I have given it? Or is something wrong? Should I nuke it and reinstall freenet completely? I don't want to try nuking it if it is just going to end up taking a year to build up to 10g again. Thanks for any help. Nuking things won't help anything, and is bad for the network. Please don't. Unfortunately, this is a known issue that needs fixing. See eg bugs 2932 and 2933 on the bugtracker. I'm not following. He is complaining that even of the 50GB half that is the cache, that is not filling up as fast as he hopes. I doubt he has averaged 100KB/sec over a year, but if he had, that ought to be 3TB of data transferred; why have we only cached 10GB of it!? IMHO the most likely explanation is that the store stats are inaccurate. We should verify this, perhaps with the original reporter. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] timeout while starting service
On Sunday 16 August 2009 08:13:09 Toni Bergman wrote: I don't know if this has been reported. Finding info on freenet is hard. I'm now using 1230 with winxp pro. my computer is gaming spec device. Problem: The defragmenting of node.db4o is a cool idea. Doing it half assed and including it without testing is a bad idea. Not saying that has been done of course, just that if that was the case. Anyway. 1) There's no point defragging a small sized node.db4o 2) When it's large, say 800 KB (which happens within 2 days of use).. The defragmenting that happens at boot OR by restarting freenet while defragment is selected, takes so long that the starting service decides it's a great idea to tell me it's having trouble starting service since it's taking too long. In it's infinite wisdom, it leaves node.db4o fucked up with temp files on the side. Considering points 1 2. What's the point of having the defragging there at all? I set it to defrag everyone's node.db4o once because it shrunk mine by a factor of 10. I did tell it to allow some time, 1 second per KB with a maximum of 24 hours (because very high numbers cause the wrapper to die immediately). 800MB should therefore have been allowed 1 day. It took longer than that or it failed instantly? I don't suppose you still have the wrapper.log? Also you *can* recover in such a case, we do move the old node.db4o, and you can tell it not to defrag in freenet.ini (node.defragDatabaseOnStartup=false). Sorry it took so long to get to you. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] broken (empty) http://freenetproject.org/translation.html
On Friday 14 August 2009 08:27:44 Frédéric BLANC wrote: Hello, The translation page (http://freenetproject.org/translation.html) seems to be broken: it only returns an empty page. Fixed. Best regards, Frederic BLANC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] No connections at all with build 1230
On Saturday 15 August 2009 05:55:28 freenet wrote: Ever since I upgraded to build 1230 I've never been able to establish a connection to any other freenet nodes on the open-net. How old is your node? You could try getting a newer seednodes.fref (from downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/) ? The statistics page shows: Disconnected: 20 Seed nodes: 18 for the last 48+ hours. I'm running on Mac OS 10.5.7 which is at Java 1.6.0_13 so of course I get the Upgrade your Java immediately! error message. I also see qnother message on the messages page: We have recently sent 0 announcements, 0 of which are still running, and added 0 nodes (0 nodes have rejected us). We are currently connected to 0 seednodes and trying to connect to another 18. which has also not changed in the past 48+ hours. My most recent log is filled with the repeating sequence of: Aug 15, 2009 04:08:43:523 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for 60973, NORMAL): Connected: 0 Routing Backed Off: 0 Too New: 0 Too Old: 0 Disconnected: 20 Never Connected: 18 Disabled: 0 Bursting: 0 Listening: 0 Listen Only: 0 Clock Problem: 0 Connection Problem: 0 Disconnecting: 0 Aug 15, 2009 04:08:48:562 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for 60973, NORMAL): Connected: 0 Routing Backed Off: 0 Too New: 0 Too Old: 0 Disconnected: 20 Never Connected: 18 Disabled: 0 Bursting: 0 Listening: 0 Listen Only: 0 Clock Problem: 0 Connection Problem: 0 Disconnecting: 0 Aug 15, 2009 04:08:51:476 (freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler, PacketSender thread for 60973, ERROR): Error while sending packet to 128.222.3.103:18143: java.io.IOException: No route to host java.io.IOException: No route to host at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method) at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612) at freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler.sendPacket(UdpSocketHandler.java: 247) at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:1794) at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java: 1781) at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAnonAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java: 1739) at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendJFKMessage1(FNPPacketMangler.java:839) at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendHandshake(FNPPacketMangler.java: 2876) at freenet.node.PacketSender.realRun(PacketSender.java:247) at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:126) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:637) at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:100) The IP address in the error line is either 128.222.3.103:18143 or 5.4.174.104:58382. No others seem to be present. I can't ping either one of those addresses. Build 1226 was working perfectly for me, and my Internet connection is fine. Side note: I never saw any announcement of builds 1229 nor 1230 on the support email list. Build 1230 just showed up in the messages page as a downloaded and pending update. Please help. Thanks, Paul ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Null Pointer Exception on FCP
On Friday 14 August 2009 12:09:53 CyberLeo wrote: Attempting to connect via FCP to a node that has its 'seized' protection set to 'high', but hasn't had the password entered to unlock it yet, logs a NullPointerException in the wrapper.log[1] and closes the connection. [1] wrapper.log.gz Thanks. This is fixed in git, the next stable build will include the fix. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] WinXP installer fails, service won't start
Matthew Toseland skrev: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 18:34:34 Magnus Ekhall wrote: I tried to install using the 1232 version of the XP installer. At the end of the installation it says that it failed becaus the service could not be started. If I try to start the service manually it will eventually fail as well with the error code 2. Any ideas? Try the beta installer: http://privat.zero3.dk/FreenetInstaller_Beta.exe This will install an old version of Freenet, with no update.cmd. But it should auto-update to the latest version in an hour or so. Uninstall your current Freenet first, but don't uninstall the Java version it installed. PS Zero3: Shall I compile up a more recent beta/ version? I tried the beta installer, but it too could not start the freenet service. Service did not respond to signal it says. I'm runnung the installer as admin and I have a recent java. Can I run the service in a shell or something to get a bit better error messages? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
