[freenet-support] Related topic (Privacy): Britain wants to track all telecom usage
I thought quite a few people on this list might be interested in this story, regarding privacy on networks. Maybe it will lead to more people using Freenet, or maybe it will lead to increased legal pressure on Freenet users. http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/computing/it/riskfactor/british-government-we-want-access-to-your-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search The second paragraph gives the long and short of it. The British government has decided to go ahead with its plans under what it calls the Intercept Modernisation Programme to force every telecommunication company and Internet service provider to keep a record of all of its customers' personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the web sites they have visited, according to the London Telegraph and various other British papers. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Related topic (Privacy): Britain wants to track all telecom usage
It's shocking stuff. Monitor all emails and texts! Even in East Germany twenty years ago the Stasi did not routine look through all letters. Celebrate the fall of the Berlin Wall this week and then have a look around and see how far we have really come. M! I thought quite a few people on this list might be interested in this story, regarding privacy on networks. Maybe it will lead to more people using Freenet, or maybe it will lead to increased legal pressure on Freenet users. http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/computing/it/riskfactor/british-government-we-want-access-to-your-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search The second paragraph gives the long and short of it. The British government has decided to go ahead with its plans under what it calls the Intercept Modernisation Programme to force every telecommunication company and Internet service provider to keep a record of all of its customers' personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the web sites they have visited, according to the London Telegraph and various other British papers. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated
Ichi wrote: First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly become illegal everywhere, more or less. Well, BitTorrent is heavily used for illegal filesharing, but the clients (uTorrent, Azureus, etc) and the technology itself are legal. When the copyright industry tries to shut BitTorrent filesharing down, they target websites that list illegal torrents. I doubt the industry will be able to criminalise the use of any piece of filesharing software as long as it has legitimate uses. In the case of Freenet, it doesn't seem practical to go after individual filesharers, so the entertainment industry will likely direct legal actions against the developers. Perhaps one day the current developers will have to abandon the project and new ones will have to take over - who will only be known by their Freenet identities? -- Please send private email to Jonas Islander jonas.islan...@fastmail.fm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Recommended message board -- frost? freemail? etc.
Joel C. Salomon wrote: I've used Freenet in the past (the early days of 0.7) and I'd like to try again. Back then, there was Frost, which I used until the DOS/spam made it unpleasant to do so. Now I read about frost, freemail, freetalk, c., and I wonder: which of these are working? Which have active discussions? Pointers? Frost is still littered with spam bots, at least the main boards. I think it's mostly used for less savory activiities, judging from the comments I've seen on FMS. FMS seems to work great. I think it needs more users, but the ones already there provide a pleasant and lively atmosphere. It's completely spam-free. Haven't tried Freemail or Freetalk. -- Please send private email to Jonas Islander jonas.islan...@fastmail.fm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated
On Thursday 12 November 2009 14:04:08 Jonas Islander wrote: Ichi wrote: First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly become illegal everywhere, more or less. Well, BitTorrent is heavily used for illegal filesharing, but the clients (uTorrent, Azureus, etc) and the technology itself are legal. When the copyright industry tries to shut BitTorrent filesharing down, they target websites that list illegal torrents. I doubt the industry will be able to criminalise the use of any piece of filesharing software as long as it has legitimate uses. They will try, and it is likely they will succeed in some places. But most are resisting this and at least so far buying into the idea that you can cheaply detect and (executively) punish pirates. In the case of Freenet, it doesn't seem practical to go after individual filesharers, so the entertainment industry will likely direct legal actions against the developers. Perhaps one day the current developers will have to abandon the project and new ones will have to take over - who will only be known by their Freenet identities? Perhaps so, but we have some way to go before Freenet is that reliable, or before it can function in the face of a government or ISP willing to spend a little money to get rid of it... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 06:42:02 mih...@riseup.net wrote: I'd also ask why it is physically based in the UK Freenet is not based in the UK. I am based in the UK. which is undoubtedly the western country most repressive of internet use. Definitely not true. A number of european countries block stuff - often judicially - for gambling or other silly reasons, whereas in the UK the *only* blocking so far is Cleanfeed, and discussions on blocking terrorist advocacy/resourcing have apparently petered out, probably when they realised it was more useful to monitor it than block it ... Only yesterday the 'interception modernatization programme' which would attempt to record all emails was dropped for 'tecnhical' reasons: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/09/home-office-plan-data-storage Fascinating, I thought it was a done deal. Of course it is technically challenging - they are not asking to store data (traffic data is actually a lot more useful most of the time), but parsing facebook traffic en masse to identify private contacts will be fairly expensive, given you have to constantly update it as facebook evolves ... It also applies to Skype, good luck there; for all we know it'll apply to Freenet too, could be fun! :) I am very happy that they ditched the central database - it would have had a system of black boxes, which of course would be remotely reprogrammable to gather just about anything with no real supervision... A side-issue is how to intercept the content of Skype calls (when you have a warrant, note that warrants are self-signed since RIPA) - this is technically rather challenging even with collusion from Skype if the user is smart. M! First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly become illegal everywhere, more or less. With any luck, Freenet will be fully anonymous and secure by then. Even now, this support list could be hosted anonymously and securely at reasonable cost. And BTW, why is Freenet incorporated in the USA, and not somewhere with lower legal and political risks? VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: bimbek wrote: Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the poor guy. I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US court would say that using freenet is illegal... Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew Toseland or not i don't know). Since i'm sure that if Freenet will become illegal, this e-mail list will have to shut down, thus de-facto banning everybody from it. -- Best regards, Ichi mailto:i...@xerobank.net ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Related topic (Privacy): Britain wants to track all telecom usage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sweden has it already and they use a dedicated super computer for that. According to the official top-500 list from june 2009 ( http://www.top500.org/list/2009/06/100 ) it is placed on position 30 with an official overall maximum power of 102.8 TFlop/s. According to some other sites the swedish government decided to watch all internet traffic on at least 20 main nodes. This includes ALL traffic, not only connection tracking but also content. Most other countries (including germany) just enforce the providers to keep a record of connections made. This can simply be avoided by using a proxy through a secure tunnel. The swedish government don't rely on ISPs providing the required data. They track it themselves, therefore you'll have to establish a secure connection to some proxy in another country before your traffic will not be visible in clear-text to the government. So far so good. We are on the best way to make ourselves into slaves (well, we are already). Greetz and have a nice day, AncoL mih...@riseup.net wrote: It's shocking stuff. Monitor all emails and texts! Even in East Germany twenty years ago the Stasi did not routine look through all letters. Celebrate the fall of the Berlin Wall this week and then have a look around and see how far we have really come. M! I thought quite a few people on this list might be interested in this story, regarding privacy on networks. Maybe it will lead to more people using Freenet, or maybe it will lead to increased legal pressure on Freenet users. http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/computing/it/riskfactor/british-government-we-want-access-to-your-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search The second paragraph gives the long and short of it. The British government has decided to go ahead with its plans under what it calls the Intercept Modernisation Programme to force every telecommunication company and Internet service provider to keep a record of all of its customers' personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the web sites they have visited, according to the London Telegraph and various other British papers. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkr9CMoACgkQHwxOsqv2bG2rPgCgkx4ZGp6DaBdFRROclEwf7ZBV oV8An25PuavtGdB3U1MsnaicAOf4TTzy =lCKT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
