Re: [freenet-support] TFE, CRUFT & FF

2003-01-09 Thread Nicholas Sturm
>
> > > "?date=3D3D20030105" in the URL bar or something.
> >=20
> > I think I could handle the "or something" but is "?date=3D3D2--30105" a
m=
> agic
> > phrase.
> > I have no idea what it stands for.
>
> First of all, it means your mail client is broken.  There should not
> be a "3D" after the "=3D".  It's just 2003 01 05 which means "January 5,
> 2003".  All together: ?date=3D20030105 (assuming your mail client doesn't
> mangle it again).
>
Even better mangled this time.  The mail client is "earthlink.net" 's new
distribution.  It does let one use other browsers more easily now, but the
last time I tried to set up Mozilla for mail, it wanted my mail sytem to
have not used POP and it does so that pretty well confused that.  Actually
the last make of Mozilla seems to offer other options, but that was even
more confusing.  Oh, well...

P.S.:  Your reply was readible until I tried to send the reply.



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Re: [freenet-support] TFE, CRUFT & FF

2003-01-09 Thread Nicholas Sturm
>
> I've snipped the rest of your message, since they weren't direct
> questions that I can answer.  If you need more answers, be sure to
> Cc the list this time, instead of just replying to me personally.
>

Actually, the personal reply was intention although you disapprove.



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Re: [freenet-support] TFE, CRUFT & FF

2003-01-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
Nicholas Sturm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I've read that note about "try retrieving" the previous edition, but
> point me to the directions for doing THAT.  Thanks.

When the DNF page in recent stable builds of Freenet comes up for
a DBR site, it has a hyperlink on it which leads to yesterday's
edition.  You click it.

> What does DNF stand for?

Data Not Found.  Freenet's equivalent of an HTTP 404.

> > "?date=3D20030105" in the URL bar or something.
> 
> I think I could handle the "or something" but is "?date=3D2--30105" a magic
> phrase.
> I have no idea what it stands for.

First of all, it means your mail client is broken.  There should not
be a "3D" after the "=".  It's just 2003 01 05 which means "January 5,
2003".  All together: ?date=20030105 (assuming your mail client doesn't
mangle it again).

I'll try to make sure mutt doesn't use quoted-printable encoding this
time, since that's probably what made your mail client barf.

I've snipped the rest of your message, since they weren't direct
questions that I can answer.  If you need more answers, be sure to
Cc the list this time, instead of just replying to me personally.

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Re: [freenet-support] TFE, CRUFT & FF

2003-01-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
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> Only FF is ok.
> 
> Other sites seems to be still there, but how retrieve it if
>  TFE is not working ?

I strongly urge you to keep local bookmarks to other pages that
you enjoy reading on a daily basis.  If you have a Freesite of
your own, bookmark it, and keep some up-to-date links on it.

This way, you won't be totally cut off when TFE fails.

> I bet that most of freenetters have no link
>  to freesites, but only to TFE.

Fortunately, you could just retrieve yesterday's edition.  Of
course, in the event of a prolonged or permanent disappearance,
this would eventually cease to be a meaningful workaround.

> Maybe insert a well known key retrievable from
>  proxy page with some active links to freesites
>  or to a non-dbr version of TFE can be a good idea.

There is no non-DBR version of TFE.  Just get yesterday's edition.
If you're running a sufficiently new version of Freenet, you even
get a link to click on from the DNF page.  I don't know what happens
if you click this when TFE has been missing two days in a row,
though.  Maybe you'd have to break out the keyboard and type
"?date=20030105" in the URL bar or something.

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RE: [freenet-support] TFE, CRUFT & FF

2003-01-08 Thread Niklas Bergh
Hmmm... And both of these where ones that had good link collections.
Maybe it is a coordinated proof of concept, there has been much talk
about the problems with the 'last single point of failure' lately.

>Other sites seems to be still there, but how retrieve it if
> TFE is not working ?

>I bet that most of freenetters have no link
> to freesites, but only to TFE

I know FMB has an freesite announcement thingy.. ,maybe that would be a
good startingpoint.

/N


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[freenet-support] TFE, CRUFT & FF

2003-01-08 Thread marcoc1

Till 8  GMT 2002 01 08, I'm unable to
 fetch TFE & CRUFT from freenet.

I'm using 537, 539, 541 & 641 on 5
 nodes.

Only FF is ok.

Other sites seems to be still there, but how retrieve it if
 TFE is not working ?

I bet that most of freenetters have no link
 to freesites, but only to TFE.

Maybe insert a well known key retrievable from
 proxy page with some active links to freesites
 or to a non-dbr version of TFE can be a good idea.

FWIW.   Marco


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