Re: need sugestions
why oh why didnt they go dhcp like everybody else does! I don't want to sound like I log in once a month to stir the hive, butcouldn't someone change this themselves? - i.e., is there a DHCP server in a repository, or could there be? Could it be done with a complete package that could be opkg added? Seth (whose current problem is not ips and routes, more like an MBR problem :-) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SHR enlightenment crash
Carsten, gdb enlightenment PID ... ... we even have a whole wiki page on it: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Debugging Thank you. That's a great lead. The reason I looked at dmesg is in case it is a systems issue as suggested by the message [21474576.125000] Unable to find swap-space signature Here's what I did next... opkg install gdb gdb enlightenment 1542 I got a lot of reports of no debugging symbols found (Perhaps I need to install a version compiled with -g or such?) and (gdb) bt #0 0x409eae3c in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x4085c7c8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 Cannot access memory at address 0x0 (gdb) All the output from gdb does not mention sig ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR enlightenment crash
Enlightenment has been crashing for me today. It gives 2 choices: Continue and Exit, and Continue just brings me to the same place. I am getting this message Unable to find swap-space signature So I logged in, looked at /etc/fstab, googled, and did this: mkswap /dev/mmcblk0p4 Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 822523904 bytes and swapon but I don't know how to retry enlightenment other than reboot. Should I do the above and then init 2 or something like that? It's not an emergency to get autonous booting working, but today I have a funeral to attend, need the phone Thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Broken Freerunner.. display ok, messages.. repairable?
there was also a guy with a FR with a broken screen... I have a freerunner with a cracked touch membrane. My friend thinks it could be fixed, but I haven't found an independent source of the part. (haven't tried hard) A used freerunner wasn't much more $ than a repairand I may have a use for a tiny Linux box even if you can't do Input. Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM, SD, daily phone
qi seems to have fixed the SD issue, Thanks Paul. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: How to get over Battery not charging
2009/8/13 François-Léonard Gilbert gilbe...@gmail.com: Coincidentally, I left my Freerunner too long between charges and I had to find a solution this morning (in the wiki, of course). Try this: 1) unplug the FR from USB and charger 2) push the AUX button and, while maintaining it down, plug the charger in. 3) push the AUX button periodically (about every 5 secs) for 2 minutes (each push cycles the selected item in the menu) François, Thanks for posting this, it is a great creative solution. Do you know if there is a way to extend the time in the NOR boot menu? (i.e., to make the timeout longer) - or, better, is there a way to add a menu choice Wait for more intructions(or CHARGE :-) While trying to flash the phone, it's annoying to have to juggle FR, keyboard, mouse, etc. Should I open a ticket? (It would be the first for me on this product, need to learn how :-) Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
GSM, SD, daily phone
My wife's Motorola phone died. I'm not ready to sign a new contract, so I need to push the Free Runner from eternal TEST into PRODUCTION. (Today?) I like SHR (have been using Testing), but it hasn't made phone calls recently, certainly not since it came back from the hardware Buzz Fix. With ATT, it is not recognizing the SIM. And SD card is not working. I just tested the SD in a friend's laptop, and there is an empty file system on it. I understand the GSM upgrade might fix the phone issue, but the safe way to do that is with SD card. (Can I do it with NFS over SSH?) Any advice appreciated. In the meantime I have to stop making fun of my co-worker who shares a cell with his wife, because I am next Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM, SD, daily phone
I understand the GSM upgrade might fix the phone issue, but the safe way to do that is with SD card. (Can I do it with NFS over SSH?) For what do you need NFS on the FR? I read that the GSM upgrade via SD is reliable and safe. I don't yet know if there are other ways. I assume if you can do something with SD, you can do it with NFS, though I have no experience with NFS over SSH. yet. Any advice appreciated. In the meantime I have to stop making fun of my co-worker who shares a cell with his wife, because I am next All men and dogs are masochists - go ahead and give her a FR. I was offering to share the one working RAZR with her until the FR is working fully. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM, SD, daily phone
I flashed the GSM the geek way and it seems to work. Will try to switch to ATT again tomorrow. Thanks for all the tips. Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: sd card?
I can't access my SD card. kernel, distribution, bootloader, bootloader version? Sorry, I realized after I sent it and then forgot. Distro is SHR Testing, updated/upgraded yesterday. I think it's the original bootloader. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: sd card?
Thanks to those who have asked for more details. uname -a : Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc2 #1 PREEMPT Sat May 2 19:11:41 CEST 2009 armv4tl unknown and to those who have Make sure that /media/mmcblk0 is not mounted then mount /media/card It is not. To prevent it from happening add a line to /etc/udev/mount.blacklist /dev/mmcblk0 I'll do this and reboot.no help. My colleague has a uSD reader that he'll bring to work tomorrow. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
sd card?
I can't access my SD card. Does anyone have suggestions beyond testing it in another device? (I am working on that) I am not 100% sure that it has worked at all since I got it back from buzzfix center. Thanks Seth r...@om-gta02 ~ $ dmesg | grep mmc [21474544.00] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [21474569.925000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x01 length 3 [21474569.955000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x1a length 5 [21474569.965000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x1b length 8 [21474569.985000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x80 length 1 [21474569.99] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x81 length 1 [21474569.995000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x82 length 1 [21474570.00] mmc1: new SDIO card at address 0001 [21474673.14] mmc1: card 0001 removed r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fdisk mmcblk0 Unable to open mmcblk0 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 Unable to open /dev/mmcblk0 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Application idea
Last week, my town put up new signs for alternate side of the street parking rules (officially it say tow-away zone )-: rant This is aka alternate-side taxation without representation /rant. Separate from the political fight, I thought of an opportunity for a technical solution to this problem. I could build a table of legal parking spaces, and set my FreeRunner to tell me when I park, that this space is only legal until 8:30 am There is a web site that has logic like this for NYC. You point at a street, and it shows green for the spots that are legal the longest. In practical terms, it would be an integration when my home network is detected, it will know to look at gps figures to check the parking regulation table. Then, in theory, it could Text-to Voice. Seth, just keep in mind, this is only legal until 8:30 am. Other possibilities... If the phone remembers where I parked have an alarm at 8:22 say Move the car!. More sophisticated might be for each car to have a FreeRunner, so the vehicle itself can notify. (I'd be willing to beta test or even help with design review, but I don't have time this year to do this project :-) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: volume
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Al Johnsonopenm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009, Seth Rothenberg wrote: Have there been any developments on volume? (Note, my Razr V3 isn't as loud as I would like either :-) Judging by the headphone amp link I assume you're talking about volume on the headset. Yes and no. The speaker is not loud enough in any circumstance. The headphone jack is a way of getting a clean signal out to an amp that could conceivably fit in the same holster as the FR. But the main time I need it is for speakerphone in the car, so if it's small enough to fit in the tray on the dash, I'm happy. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
volume
Have there been any developments on volume? (Note, my Razr V3 isn't as loud as I would like either :-) The volume worries me enough that I asked google if there are any pocket amps(found one :-) http://www.headwize.com/projects/cmoy2_prj.htm Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
voicestream gprs
I got to this stage, so now I am sure I am crashing into a toll barrier (nothing money won't fix :-) I edited the apn line in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/shr_settings_modules/shr_gprs.py apn, login, password = wap.voicestream.com, , and rebooted and clicked connect. Soon after, /etc/resolv.conf was changed, nameserver 10.177.0.34 nameserver 10.163.140.242 AND ping pachai.net returned PING pachai.net (67.18.176.172): 56 data bytes and nothing else which of course is standard behavior for a corporate firewall that one is not authorized on. (the DNS servers seem to have ping disabled) When my kids are asleep, I'll call tMobile and hope to speak to a different sales agent. It's amazing that a customer is in the store, and they say they can't help you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
headset cable
Sorry if it's been covered, but neither I nor google remember... Is there an adaptor for freerunner to normal 3.5mm stereo jack? Perhaps splitting out the mic to another jack? Is this a market niche for an unemployed friend? I am in the US Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: headset cable
a friend bought one of these for his neo. it works well, and i have one on the way: So do I - actually, I got a few, total for 3 mailed from HK is about how much I would spend for one in Radio Shack (if they had them :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310114120680ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:12 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
gprs in US
I would like to use GPRS in the US. I have a SIM card from T-Mobile, I get an IP address and DNS information, but I have no route to the Internet via gprs. (Actually, I have no route to anywhere except usb0 as long as I am connected to gprs :-) Based on a message I saw on this list, I thought this would work (T-mobile prepaid). (wap.voicestream.com; guest/guest :-) (My present Distro is SHR, flash seems to be at Moko8, I'm thinking I'll upgrade to Moko11 Real Soon Now. ) Does anyone have gprs working on tmobile? If NOT, does anyone have any other prepaid plan working with GPRS? I'm willing to switch carriers, but I'm not ready to sign up for a contract or lifetime commitment. (note, I like my phone # :-) As a matter of fact, my current carrier is ATT but I don't like them much and it's time to replace my phones, so I thought I would try TMobile. (Can I just get a data plan only and a VOIP account? :-) Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gprs in US
I do have a T-Mobile contract with their Blackberry Addon Service ($29 + $20 + some change + taxes and other crap) and GPRS works for me with SHR testing (full internet access: IM, email, WWW, ssh). I am have a pay-as-you-go SIM card, and internet didn't work yet (see below), so I called T-mobile, and I spoke to 3 different people who could not solve this for me - 2 in sales and one tech in India. I'm not sure he knew what I meant by I get an IP address and I get DNS information speaking of which How do you know that you did receive DNS and an IP address? because I see ppp0 with an IP address, and I see that resolv.conf, instead of having routable addresses like nameserver 208.67.222.222 and nameserver 208.67.220.220 when CONNECTED, I have nameservers on the 10 network, i.e., non-routable addresses. exactly like D. Gassen reported nameserver 10.177.0.34 nameserver 10.163.140.242 When GRPS is up (and PPP is running) I have the following interface configured: snip snip Exactly what I am saying... from the command line it looks the same, but it appears I don't get a route to the Internet until I pay. And my calls found they don't want my money. I don't want a monthly plan until it makes sense to transition off my ATT plan. Other option is to see if ATT will work with me (which would cost $10/month). But I don't know if I can trust them to support it. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Good things to report
I have a funny question... What: distro version (date) sms app you are using kernel mods you have made to the image Is it possible to get this info from a single command, like uname -a Or, is there an explore command as found on some OS's? I could imagine distro,version,date, and kernel could all show up in uname -a though I am not an OS developer, and don't have an OM/SHR development environment yet. Thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
USB hub
Is there a USB hub that is recognized by Freerunner? I think the one I have is not recognized by FR or Ubuntu. Thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: USB hub
Is there a USB hub that is recognized by Freerunner? I think the one I have is not recognized by FR or Ubuntu. FR is a piece of hardware, ubuntu is software, are you running ubuntu on freerunner or ubuntu on PC? If your usb hub does not work with your PC/ubuntu then probably it does not work with freerunner either. That's right. A USB hub is hardware. Many types of hardware require a driver on the host. Many OS' have drivers that support various USB devices. This hub does not appear to be supported by these two OS's, so I asked (see above :-) Thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign
Someone posted something on this list to the effect that most FreeRunners have a uSD removal tool inside the case... you have to take it out to access the uSD anyway. When it's not being used to remove the uSD, it can be stored in the SIM slot, and get you phone service. Just watch out for pop-flies. I had one uSD disappear on me. Still MIA. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Bash?
I really would like to run bash. Google doesn't know of an existing repository for bash. Does anyone else know? Thanks a lot. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
mp3 quickpick
Is there a way to set up an MP3 player that's as easy to use as the CD player in my car? Here's a case (imvho) where one or two more buttons would be good. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Bash?
Have you already tried opkg install bash? It's available for various distributions. Yes, thanks. r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install bash An error ocurred, return value: -50512. I think I am running SHR testing uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.28-rc4 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 2 19:43:22 CET 2009 armv4tl unknown ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: mp3
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Alexander Shulgin alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Seth Rothenberg s...@pachai.net wrote: I have the same output from the command above on SHR unstable (version from 22 or 23 Jan). Using mplayer or pythm works for me on mp3s. What do you mean by 'worked last week, but not now'? Did you try mplayer from terminal? :) Starting pythm from the GUI ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
mp3
Can I ask if there is someone using SHR to play mp3s? It worked for me last week, but not now. I'll be in the air for 22 hours in the next 10 days, would like to have an mp3 player. I have this: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed | egrep 'pythm|player' mplayer - 0.0+1.0rc2-r12 - mplayer-common - 0.0.1-r0 - pythm - 0.5.1+svnr19-r3 - r...@om-gta02 ~ $ Thanks Seth (PS I know, I know, for about the same money I could buy an mp3 player and a gps and a phone and a PIM... and each would be top-notch at its taskbut I wouldn't be a geek :+) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Al Johnson It's been in the kernel for a long while now. It is as effective as the hardware fix, possibly more so. 2. Is the hardware fix documented for DIY? I think so, but it is completely unnecessary with a recent kernel. Al, Thanks alot. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Joachim Ott jo.o...@googlemail.com wrote: By default, your desktop PC has 192.168.0.200 and the FR has 192.168.0.202. Try this entry in /etc/network/interfaces on the FR: ...etc... and on your desktop PC in the very same file: Thanks. With these entries, I still have OM not always setting up the usb interface right, but now that I know how to use terminal with kbd, I can just ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Thanks. I actually hope to get wifi working, since wifi here is more likely to be evidence that wifi will work in Israel, while gprs may be harder. I also didn't see how to turn on the GPS antenna in SHR. I recall seeing it on Settings screen in an earlier distro. I downloaded all the maps for my neighborhood, but tangogps won't come out of this mode where I scroll to the desired place. Since it looks like I'll be on SHR, I subscribed to that specific list. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Another follow-on question. It appears that the phone I am using now does not have the capacitor fix. I have 2 questions: 1. is the software patch available for various distros, eg, SHR? 2. Is the hardware fix documented for DIY? The phone I have that was able to get a fix... it seems to have a microscopic solder joint between the 3rd and 4th pins from the bottom on the SD slot. (there could be a cap in there :-) The phone I am trying to work with... does not have this solder work. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Thanks for the great replies... I flashed my FR to SHR today. I had a few instances of it freezing during boot. Then it seemed to be up, but I had 2 issues: 1. In Terminal, I get no keyboard. (I guess that's my punishment for complaining about not getting a full 101 keys by default. :-) 2. My usb setup script failed. ifconfig returns this and more, but ping gets nothing. usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 8e:a3:0c:ca:6d:a8 inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::8ca3:cff:feca:6da8/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Script is: rot...@sata1:/opt/download/OpenMoko$ cat usbsetup sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 sudo ifconfig usb0 up ifconfig usb0 ping -c 2 mok rot...@sata1:/opt/download/OpenMoko$ Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Loading what
I thought of something that would give me a warm fuzzy feeling Loading Terminal or Loading Settings I happen to be running SHR right now, but I am sure all distros could benefit with this silly thing, namely Provide name of application being launched Where would be a good place to suggest this? (diy is an OK answer, but not this month :-) Actually, along the same lines, it would be nice if FR could give a bit of positive feedback sooner than 30 seconds after boot when I see openmoko (Note, this is not unique to FR, the motoRAZR also does this, but I have booted the FR more times in a few months than I have booted the RAZR in 3 years.) Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro?
Thanks for the helpful answers already. Today, I backed up both phones (one has a cracked touch panel)...so I can fool around without having to start from scratch to go back. I have experience with cold-metal restores of Solaris. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
micro sh
I bought a 4gb SDHC card, and it is not recognized. I thought I read on this list that it is supported. Is there something I need to do before fdisk? output below. Thanks Seth r...@om-gta02:~# fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 fdisk: cannot read from /dev/mmcblk0 r...@om-gta02:~# r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Thu Nov 6 02:57:37 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown r...@om-gta02:~# dmesg | grep mmcbl (duplicate lines trimmed) [ 38.775000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command [ 38.78] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 [ 38.78] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 [ 38.845000] mmcblk0: error -84 sending read/write command [ 38.85] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 [ 38.85] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 [ 2702.90] mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command [ 2702.905000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 [ 2702.905000] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 r...@om-gta02:~# r...@om-gta02:~# modprobe s3cmci modprobe: module s3cmci not found modprobe: failed to load module s3cmci This has been fixed in commits 2831 (for 2.6.21.x) and 2832 (for 2.6.22.x). ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Took my FR apart and there is a bit left over after putting it back together ...
William, Hi, I thought I would have a look inside the front of my FR (gta02v5) - but a little silver contact fell out in the process. How was the experience? I'm not inept, but the last toy of my son's that I took apart is still apart. I have a FreeRunnner with a cracked touch screen. It's makes me think of what I read in a book, it's easy to get the starter motor and all the spark plugs in and out...when the engine is hanging on the assembly line. And the robot has 14 hands. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
FDOMizer
Does anyone know if FDOMizer (October release date) works with OM2008.12? Or, is there a script for fattening up the very slim OM2008.12? Synaptic? It would be nice to go check, check, check, GOose! Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Phone service in Israel?
Has anyone gotten phone service in Israel? I'll be visiting Israel soon, and it occurred to me to take my Freerunner with me. (the one I'll be getting ;-) I would be buying a SIM card and pay-as-I-go. I have a T MObil sim for use in the US, and my old (current :-) cell phone is AT T, and the handset is supposedly unlocked. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: NTP
One note about time from cellular networks. ATT is consistently 30 seconds behind reliable sources. I don't know if it is the (non-open) device's fault or the network. My desktop is NTP'd, and I have checked against other Atomic radio clocks. I haven't tried anything with the FR yet. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:19 PM, V. Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you know the IMEI, report it to the local cops/police station. They have tieups with GSM service providers who can triangulate the phone. Your service provider should know the IMEI number ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
we need a way to remotely activate the gps and make it send an sms and e-mail etc etc I had such an idea long ago, when my car was stolen. The insurance company got a report on day 3 that it had been recovered within 8 hours by the Sanitation Department. (NYC considers the empty chassis to be a sanitation problem, not a police matter ;-) My idea was, the device monitors GPS, and ignition. If the car is moving but not on, start making calls.And of course, 10 years later, OM/FRunner/Tangogps offer the platform. Call the Police from in front of your computer. I want to report a car being stolen...It's on 105t street... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Best Dist only for GPS usage (and maybe wlan)?
Thanks. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Another dead FR?
Does anyone know about the assembly and possibility of repairing FR? I had it in a pocket all day yesterday, and I see a bad crack on the screen. (Getting a cover or holster was on my list :-) It booted, I clicked something, and it hung while trying to start the app. (You might say, Well, it was doing that before...:-) (I think that's because of the bug in the charge cycle. It hits 100%, then stops charging, and never detects the trailing edge of the sufficiently charged sensor. I can try to re-flash it at home, I work in an almost Linux-free environment. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: 8Gb SD card and sd_max_clk
A picture like that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:FR_SIM_SD_open.jpg Thanks. I needed a bit more...like Another trick is Joerg's sticky tape mod. See http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/sdcard-handle/ for photos. Best of all... A trick i use is removing the SIM and insert it between the sd and the plastic and then use it as a lever. Good tip! Done. I just need to remember where I put the new one My nails are not so long to pop the thing out. Just the week I decided to groom... Thanks everyone. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: 8Gb SD card and sd_max_clk
Sorry to pop up with a silly question, but is there a trick for getting the SD out? I tried, and my colleague tried, and we are at a loss. I looked at online docs and they didn't help. Even simply a picture with it open would help, as I can't remember what it looked like. Thanks ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
It's a PHONE
I have been a little worried about the FreeRunner, since it couldn't maintain a USB network connection (resolved by disabling Suspend), and it couldn't recognize my ATT SIM card... But on Friday, I got a TMobile SIM and a phone number (and by Divine Providence it ends in 0771, love that number! :-) And it makes and takes phone calls. Sound isn't perfect, but I have heard a lot of people talking about these issues, so I have confidence. Now I'll go back to developing an application that might greatly benefit from FR... I'm converting a camry to run on batteries... and it's valuable to have real-time diagnostics like from a Linux PC. Thank you all who have been working on this. Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Bench Test FreeRunner
Hi, I have had the Freerunner a while, have had fun putting on different distros, FDOM, and OM 2008.9, but have not been able to do anything productive with it yet. ($400 soduko game :-). I have some ideas that the FreeRunner (or, Commodity Linux GPS phone) could be used for, but it helps to start with a working one. opkg update fails with Om2008.9 as shipped. (output below) Is there a known working configuration for opkg or ipkg? Are there bench tests I can run to confirm whether the hardware is working? Without updating, should GPS tests with any of these distros give me at least Latitude and Longitude? Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Sep 3 19:01:18 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg update Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz Inflating http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/daily-Multiverse Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.sig Signature check failed etc, etc etc Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/Packages.gz Inflating http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/Packages.gz Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/daily-om-gta02 Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/neo1973/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Bench Test FreeRunner
Just an update (or upgrade :-) on the status - opkg update gives lots of errors, but never says explicitly that none of them are fatal. opkg upgrade was failingand the network connection was being dropped.Or likely, BECAUSE the network connection was being dropped.And why was that? because the screen timed outsuspended. Is there a bug in that regard? Changing Settings/Suspend to off helped. Now I can try again with something else, eg, adding tango, or even FDOM Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Phone Return
I am also having difficulty, wondering if any of the radios in this thing work.Please let me know what you find out. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
FDOM and network stability and Dialer
I used neotool on Ubuntu 8.04 to install FDOM. Tried USB networking. It succeeds for the first round of ping -c 2, then doesn't work any longer. I hate to point fingers, but are there known diagnostics I can run to check the fulll physical path? my USB port, the cable, the FR USB port. ...And in other news, Dialer can't see my SIM card. That might be an ATT issue, as I don't know if my old phone is GSM. Time to go get an extra SIM. Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: tango
Joel, Thanks for all the details. So to flash, download a new image (like http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ - you need 'gta02' versions of rootfs and uImage and rootfs may be .jffs2 or .jffs2.summary) and fire up Neotool. Tell it to flash, select the files, and it will tell you to prepare the Freerunner. At this point the FR should be off, and plugged into USB. Hold down 'aux', press and hold power now until the NOR boot menu appears, then release both. Click 'start' (or whatever the button is) in neotool and it will start flashing. rootfs will take quite some time. Once you've confirmed it finished correctly and boots the FR, consider also flashing the latest uboot bootloader - same procedure. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: tango
I wrote: Greetings. I have had my FreeRunner a couple of days, I would appreciate some tips on navigating (on it...and with it :-). I found my way to usb networking, so I can ssh to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it appears to be running 2007.??. and folks have recommended upgrading, Michael Zanetti wrote: Hi and welcome to the wonderful world of openmoko :) I would suggest updating (flashing) to a newer distribution as the preinstalled one (do they still ship with 2007.2?) istn't supported any more. Check out 2008.9 or even FDOM. FDOM will give you a faster impression of whats possible with your freerunner but it isn't an official Openmoko distribution. and my colleague agreed, saying lots of things are fixed (like usb networking :-) so, how to upgrade if usb networking is unstable? Now, a few days later, it won't stay up long enough to... run neotool. From the time I bring up networking, until I click over to another window, it now fails. (I am on Ubuntu, 8.04) Do I need to just get an SD card reader to copy the new image on? - will that help me? (will I need a bigger SD card? :-). I don't suppose the FR will allow me to use the SD from the host without bringing up USB networking? related - I saw a page about buying or building a USB crossover cable, so the FR could be a host. Could I then upgrade from a USB stick? Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
tango
Greetings. I have had my FreeRunner a couple of days, I would appreciate some tips on navigating (on it...and with it :-). I found my way to usb networking, so I can ssh to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without password (from my home Ubuntu pc, which is secure ;-) instructions for tango appear obsolete, since they mention gpsd and other docs list gpsd as obsolete. In any case, the first step seems to be opkg update which fails (small bug, it reports failure to verify signature, when the failure was finding the tarball) It looks like the download tree on openmoko.org has moved, but I'm not sure exactly where to. Just changing buildhost to downloads didn't do the trick. uname says: Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 24 08:23:36 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# cat all-feed.conf src/gz daily-all http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all (downloads.openmoko.org/daily-feed does not exist) Any help is appreciated. Hopefully a solution to my questions doesn't require deciding what I want to do with itbecause I want to do everything with it. (make calls, manage servers at work, find my way home :-) Thanks Seth PS usb networking from ubuntu to Freerunner keeps getting dropped. I'm suspecting freerunner, but it could be either. bringing up usb0 again fixes it. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
