Re: How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner? / SOLVED

[Al Johnson]

On Monday 04 April 2011, Dave Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Al and the list,
> 
> > From: Al Johnson on 03/29/11 03:17 PM
> > 
> > Am I right in thinking you're using the debug board to get a serial port
> > level shifted to 3.3V, and connecting that to the Calypso serial
> > interface through the headset jack?
> 
> No... I do not fully understand your question, which probably means
> I'm not trying THAT :)
> 
> What I understand now, is that for my purpose (running osmocon on
> the phone) serial connection is not needed, as in OpenMoko case the
> communication happens via TCP socket as explained in
> http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko . Thanks anyway!

The Calypso in the OpenMokos has two serial interfaces. One is connected to 
the cpu and appears as /dev/ttySAC0, and the other is connected to the headset 
jack socket.

According to their wiki[1][2] osmocon connects to the calypso through either 
of these serial ports, and provides a socket interface. If you run osmocon on 
the phone the obvious port to use is /dev/ttySAC0. If you were running osmocon 
on a separate machine you would connect via the headphone jack instead, just 
as you would for most of the other supported handsets[3]. The debug board 
contains a USB serial interface that can be used to connect to the headset 
jack socket[4], so when you mentioned the debug board I assumed you were using 
this method. 

[1] http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/osmocon
[2] http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/CalypsoRomloader
[3] http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/CalypsoSerialCable
[4] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-April/001109.html

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Re: How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner? / SOLVED

[Dave Schmidt]

Hi Al and the list,

> From: Al Johnson on 03/29/11 03:17 PM

> Am I right in thinking you're using the debug board to get a serial port 
> level 
> shifted to 3.3V, and connecting that to the Calypso serial interface through 
> the headset jack? 

No... I do not fully understand your question, which probably means 
I'm not trying THAT :)

What I understand now, is that for my purpose (running osmocon on 
the phone) serial connection is not needed, as in OpenMoko case the 
communication happens via TCP socket as explained in 
http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko . Thanks anyway!

D.

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Re: How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner? / SOLVED

[Al Johnson]

Am I right in thinking you're using the debug board to get a serial port level 
shifted to 3.3V, and connecting that to the Calypso serial interface through 
the headset jack? 

On Tuesday 29 March 2011, Dave Schmidt wrote:
> ...and sorry for not being able to send email neither,
> 
> > Answer found, sorry for doing it only AFTER posting :)
> > I am (was) missing the debug board and
> 
> and ftdi_sio module.
> 
> After doing
> 
> sudo rmmod ftdi_sio
> sudo modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=0x1457 product=0x5118
> 
> the debugging board is recognized:
> 
> ftdi_sio 2-2.1:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
> usb 2-2.1: Detected FT2232C
> usb 2-2.1: Number of endpoints 2
> usb 2-2.1: Endpoint 1 MaxPacketSize 64
> usb 2-2.1: Endpoint 2 MaxPacketSize 64
> usb 2-2.1: Setting MaxPacketSize 64
> usb 2-2.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> 
> Thanks for patience! :)
> 
> D.

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RE: How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner? / SOLVED

[Dave Schmidt]

...and sorry for not being able to send email neither,

> Answer found, sorry for doing it only AFTER posting :) 
> I am (was) missing the debug board and
and ftdi_sio module.

After doing

sudo rmmod ftdi_sio
sudo modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=0x1457 product=0x5118 

the debugging board is recognized:

ftdi_sio 2-2.1:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
usb 2-2.1: Detected FT2232C
usb 2-2.1: Number of endpoints 2
usb 2-2.1: Endpoint 1 MaxPacketSize 64
usb 2-2.1: Endpoint 2 MaxPacketSize 64
usb 2-2.1: Setting MaxPacketSize 64
usb 2-2.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0

Thanks for patience! :)

D.

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RE: How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner?

[Dave Schmidt]

> From: Dave Schmidt
[...]
> I have 
> created a node (mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0) and inserted module
> (modprobe usbserial) on the PC, but usbserial does not find any device.
> The report is only:
> 
> usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
> USB Serial support registered for generic
> usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
> usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
> 
> What am I missing?

Answer found, sorry for doing it only AFTER posting :) 
I am (was) missing the debug board and 

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Re: How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner?

[Joachim Ott]

On 29 March 2011 11:55, Dave Schmidt  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have my Freerunner connected to the PC via USB cable. SSH terminal is open.
>
> I want to access the phone via serial interface (to flash osmocombb firmware).
> Could/should the same usb cable be used for that? I have
> created a node (mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0) and inserted module
> (modprobe usbserial) on the PC, but usbserial does not find any device.
> The report is only:
>
> usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
> USB Serial support registered for generic
> usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
> usbserial: USB Serial Driver core

Flashing GSM firmware is a bit more difficult on the FR, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing section "Manual Update".
Maybe you ask other people at osmocombb if and how they did their
firmware upgrade on the FR.

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How to get serial port connection to Neo Freerunner?

[Dave Schmidt]

Hello everyone,

I have my Freerunner connected to the PC via USB cable. SSH terminal is open.

I want to access the phone via serial interface (to flash osmocombb firmware).
Could/should the same usb cable be used for that? I have 
created a node (mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0) and inserted module
(modprobe usbserial) on the PC, but usbserial does not find any device.
The report is only:

usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
USB Serial support registered for generic
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
usbserial: USB Serial Driver core

What am I missing?

Thanks a lot,

D.

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OT: Neo Freerunner in literature

[Joachim Ott]

[I posted this to shr-user already and wanted to put it onto the
openmoko-wiki, but there's the real place for some "trivia". I also
could not crosspost because I have 2 different mailaddresses for the
lists. Sorry if you receive this twice.]

I just finished Gibson's "Zero History", and I was curious about the
Neo phone that one of the main characters is using in the first half
of the book (while the rest of the world seems to use iphones and
macbooks only), so I asked Cory Doctorow (mentioned in the "thanks"
section of the book) and he confirmed that the Neo Freerunner is
meant. In the book the Neo has an american + russian gps, often
problems with the software, the company producing it went off
business, later it was said it went bankrupt. Well.

I can't really advise this book (it's the 3rd part of "pattern
recognition" and "spook country"), it's too much "ideal world" story
to me (different from Neuromancer and its 2 followers). But I got it
rather cheap from amazon for 12,95 €.

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Neo Freerunner Display Broken (Updated)

[Nashvin Gangaram]

Hi everyone

My Neo Freerunner display seems to be broken.  There are just bright lines
flashing on the screen (Some days some lines changes colour).  This issue is
always present.  However, the touchscreen seems to be working (The phone
responds to touches).  I can still ssh to the phone from my PC. The
filesystem is okay (all my files are still there), and the phone is working
otherwise.  I just can't see anything on the screen, except for some bright
flashing lines...

I don't think it is a software problem, because the issue is present even
when booting from NOR flash (holding AUX button + POWER)

I don't think it is a power-related problem, because I have tried using the
battery, as well as a PC USB port.

I have opened the phone, and the cable between display and board seems fine,
and all the connectors are sitting firmly.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Any advice on what to do?

Thank You
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Re: Neo Freerunner Display Broken

[arne anka]

 from your description, it could be the connector or cable connecting  
display and board.
you could try to open the fr and check, if the connector still sits firmly.

btw: i guess it's better to write to commun...@om, no idea how many people  
still read supp...@om.

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Re: Neo Freerunner Display Broken

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> Has anyone else experienced this problem?
> Any advice on what to do?
I am not sure, as the picture is not sharp, but maybe you suffer WSOD.
However other symptoms (like this lines) might point out other
(hardware?) problem.
Did you upgraded/flashed your phone recently? If so, backup your data
and try flashing older image, which you are sure was working OK.

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Re: Neo FreeRunner

[halbtaxabo-om]

- Original Message 

> From: Al Johnson 
> To: support@lists.openmoko.org
> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 11:48:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Neo FreeRunner
> 
> On Wednesday 04 November 2009, Iurii wrote:
> > Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 04 November 2009 10:05:53 Iurii wrote:
> > >> i have a simple question does Neo FreeRunner has support for 3G data
> > >> cards?
> > >> i was thinking to start developing with openmokko project but the most
> > >> important thing to me is the GPRS
> > >> i our contry we have only the 3G...
> > >> but im really interested in openmoko...
> > >> any suggestions and answers will be really apriciated
> > >
> > > The freerunner has GPRS, but not 3G. However there is the possibility to
> > > attach an external USB 3G dongle. You can find more information on
> > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UMTS
> > 
> > tnx a lot very usefull suggestion
> > i will keep going then with openmoko ideas
> 
> Also consider the gizmoforyou FLOW which is generally more capable but more 
> expensive, and almost as open.
> 
> http://www.gizmoforyou.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_50

The FLOW, as well as being much more expensive, seems to have hardly any
users yet, judging from the activity on its forums. When people start using it,
they will probably find problems, as did the early users of the Freerunner.

Remember that the Neo GTA02 is currently in version 6 or 7 of the hardware. It's
now usable as a cellphone (just barely, but usable). The FLOW is in version 1.
I don't doubt that it is possible to initiate and receive phone calls on it, but
from that to being really usable as a cellphone is a long way. Unless you're
primarily a hardware hacker, I'd suggest not buying a FLOW until you see
more reports from real users.

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Re: Neo FreeRunner

[Al Johnson]

On Wednesday 04 November 2009, Iurii wrote:
> Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 November 2009 10:05:53 Iurii wrote:
> >> i have a simple question does Neo FreeRunner has support for 3G data
> >> cards?
> >> i was thinking to start developing with openmokko project but the most
> >> important thing to me is the GPRS
> >> i our contry we have only the 3G...
> >> but im really interested in openmoko...
> >> any suggestions and answers will be really apriciated
> >
> > The freerunner has GPRS, but not 3G. However there is the possibility to
> > attach an external USB 3G dongle. You can find more information on
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UMTS
> 
> tnx a lot very usefull suggestion
> i will keep going then with openmoko ideas

Also consider the gizmoforyou FLOW which is generally more capable but more 
expensive, and almost as open.

http://www.gizmoforyou.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_50

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Re: Neo FreeRunner

[Iurii]

Michael Zanetti wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday 04 November 2009 10:05:53 Iurii wrote:
>> i have a simple question does Neo FreeRunner has support for 3G data
>> cards?
>> i was thinking to start developing with openmokko project but the most
>> important thing to me is the GPRS
>> i our contry we have only the 3G...
>> but im really interested in openmoko...
>> any suggestions and answers will be really apriciated
>> 
> 
> The freerunner has GPRS, but not 3G. However there is the possibility to 
> attach an external USB 3G dongle. You can find more information on 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UMTS
> 
> 
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tnx a lot very usefull suggestion 
i will keep going then with openmoko ideas

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Re: Neo FreeRunner

[Michael Zanetti]

On Wednesday 04 November 2009 10:05:53 Iurii wrote:
> i have a simple question does Neo FreeRunner has support for 3G data cards?
> i was thinking to start developing with openmokko project but the most
> important thing to me is the GPRS
> i our contry we have only the 3G...
> but im really interested in openmoko...
> any suggestions and answers will be really apriciated
> 

The freerunner has GPRS, but not 3G. However there is the possibility to 
attach an external USB 3G dongle. You can find more information on 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UMTS



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Neo FreeRunner

[Iurii]

i have a simple question does Neo FreeRunner has support for 3G data cards?
i was thinking to start developing with openmokko project but the most
important thing to me is the GPRS
i our contry we have only the 3G...
but im really interested in openmoko...
any suggestions and answers will be really apriciated 
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Neo Freerunner + Debug board for Sale - Sweden

[Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson]

Hi

   Selling my Neo Freerunner together with Debug board for 2000:- SEK or 
195 €.

   All the standard stuff is included except the pen, went lost.

   Free shipping within Sweden.

   If you're in the Stockholm area, we can meet for a demo.

Ingi


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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[arne anka]

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:09:25 +0200, Tim Sterk  wrote:

>>> I've tried the image which is on the website:
>>> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz
>>>
>>> I've put it on my MicroSD card using the following instructions found  
>>> on
>>> the openmoko site:
>>> sudo dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0
>>
>> - did you try to download that archive again and compare the images?
>> - after doing dd you should be able to simply mount the sd card, is that
>> possible and can you browse the directories?
>> - what kind of bootloader are you using (qi, u-boot, if uboot from nand  
>> or
>> nor?) and which version?
>> - how exactly did you boot (which button pressed how and how long)?
>> - can you boot from another sd card?
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> I've downloaded the image multiple times, every time results in the same
> error.

it wpould probably have been much easier, if you just had _compared_ the  
images, as i wrote above.

> I'm not able to mount the sd card, because mount asks me the filesystem
> type, which I don't know.

iirc the image consists of two partitions. so, check with fdisk and try  
again.


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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[Tim Sterk]

>> I've tried the image which is on the website:
>> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz
>>
>> I've put it on my MicroSD card using the following instructions found on
>> the openmoko site:
>> sudo dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0
>
> - did you try to download that archive again and compare the images?
> - after doing dd you should be able to simply mount the sd card, is that
> possible and can you browse the directories?
> - what kind of bootloader are you using (qi, u-boot, if uboot from nand or
> nor?) and which version?
> - how exactly did you boot (which button pressed how and how long)?
> - can you boot from another sd card?
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I've downloaded the image multiple times, every time results in the same
error.

I'm not able to mount the sd card, because mount asks me the filesystem
type, which I don't know.

Bootloader is uboot(nor) 1.3.2-moko12

Another sd card is giving me the same problems.


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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[Tim Sterk]

> 2009/8/11 Tim Sterk :
 Thanks for your help,
>>>
>>> any chance, you'd tell us, _what_ you do exactly?
>>>  from your description it is rather hard to infer your steps.
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>> Using Neotool results in an error: Lost device after RESET?
>>
>> I've tried on different computersystems (all ubuntu 9.04).
>> Tried using different MicroSD card.
>> Tried different flash images and different distributions.
>
> Try it with dfu-util, use this description:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing#Boot_the_FreeRunner_from_NOR_Flash
>
> After flashing kernel and rootfs, boot from NOR to see if works. Then
> you can flash a bootloader too.
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Tried that too, same error.


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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[arne anka]

> I've tried the image which is on the website:
> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz
>
> I've put it on my MicroSD card using the following instructions found on
> the openmoko site:
> sudo dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0

- did you try to download that archive again and compare the images?
- after doing dd you should be able to simply mount the sd card, is that  
possible and can you browse the directories?
- what kind of bootloader are you using (qi, u-boot, if uboot from nand or  
nor?) and which version?
- how exactly did you boot (which button pressed how and how long)?
- can you boot from another sd card?

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[Joachim Ott]

2009/8/11 Tim Sterk :
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> any chance, you'd tell us, _what_ you do exactly?
>>  from your description it is rather hard to infer your steps.
>>
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> Using Neotool results in an error: Lost device after RESET?
>
> I've tried on different computersystems (all ubuntu 9.04).
> Tried using different MicroSD card.
> Tried different flash images and different distributions.

Try it with dfu-util, use this description:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing#Boot_the_FreeRunner_from_NOR_Flash

After flashing kernel and rootfs, boot from NOR to see if works. Then
you can flash a bootloader too.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[Tim Sterk]

I've tried the image which is on the website:
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz

I've put it on my MicroSD card using the following instructions found on
the openmoko site:
sudo dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0

> I think there are two separate incidents described here:
> 1)  flashing the GSM firmware from microsd does not work
> 2) flashing with Neotool causes an error - the NAND firmware is destroyed
> during the flashing.
>
> No flaming needed, this is the SUPPORT list.  You know, newbies welcome?
>
> Now, I have a clarification question for Tim:  what image did you put on
> the
> microsd cards for the GSM flash?  How did you put it on them?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:17 AM, arne anka  wrote:
>
>>
>> and i guess, you tried to tell us something?
>> what in "exactly" didn't you understand?
>>
>> if you really want help, make it possible to help you by giving detailed
>> information instead of general statements like those cited above.
>>
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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[arne anka]

> No flaming needed, this is the SUPPORT list.  You know, newbies welcome?

which means: newbie == unable to read?
if you call requesting _usefull_ information instead of "it does not work"  
flaming, so be it.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[François-Léonard Gilbert]

I think there are two separate incidents described here:
1)  flashing the GSM firmware from microsd does not work
2) flashing with Neotool causes an error - the NAND firmware is destroyed
during the flashing.

No flaming needed, this is the SUPPORT list.  You know, newbies welcome?

Now, I have a clarification question for Tim:  what image did you put on the
microsd cards for the GSM flash?  How did you put it on them?


On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:17 AM, arne anka  wrote:

>
> and i guess, you tried to tell us something?
> what in "exactly" didn't you understand?
>
> if you really want help, make it possible to help you by giving detailed
> information instead of general statements like those cited above.
>
>
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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[arne anka]

> I've tried on different computersystems (all ubuntu 9.04).
> Tried using different MicroSD card.
> Tried different flash images and different distributions.

and i guess, you tried to tell us something?
what in "exactly" didn't you understand?

if you really want help, make it possible to help you by giving detailed  
information instead of general statements like those cited above.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[Tim Sterk]

>> Thanks for your help,
>
> any chance, you'd tell us, _what_ you do exactly?
>  from your description it is rather hard to infer your steps.
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Using Neotool results in an error: Lost device after RESET?

I've tried on different computersystems (all ubuntu 9.04).
Tried using different MicroSD card.
Tried different flash images and different distributions.




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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[arne anka]

> Thanks for your help,

any chance, you'd tell us, _what_ you do exactly?
 from your description it is rather hard to infer your steps.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[rakshat hooja]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Tim Sterk  wrote:

> I got some problems flashing my Neo Freerunner.
>
> When I try to flash a new OS on it, I get an error message:
>
> s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19
> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on
> unknown-block(179,2)
>
> When I try to flash my GSM firmware, I get an error message that the phone
> cannot read the uImage from my MicroSD card.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I can do, because it's rendering the phone
> useless.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Tim
>
>
Are you using Neotool?

Rakshat
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Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

[Tim Sterk]

I got some problems flashing my Neo Freerunner.

When I try to flash a new OS on it, I get an error message:

s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19
kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on
unknown-block(179,2)

When I try to flash my GSM firmware, I get an error message that the phone
cannot read the uImage from my MicroSD card.

Does anyone have any idea what I can do, because it's rendering the phone
useless.

Thanks for your help,

Tim


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Re: Neo Freerunner on eBay

[Cory Wright]

The Freerunner was most of the payment for writing the article.  It
certainly wasn't something I got for free, in fact, I lost money on
it.

Thanks for your bid.

Cory


On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:
> Well, in my day when we received a "review unit" we returned it to the
> company that sent it to us after the review was done, but I guess times
> have changed.
>
> I decided to bid on this unit, so I bid the minimum, $1.04, but I was
> outbid by someone else.  I guess I don't want to bid any higher, since I
> do not want to see someone gain from something they did not pay for, and
> I too would like to see a deserving Openmoko developer get it for the
> least amount of money they can.
>
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Re: Neo Freerunner on eBay

[Jon 'maddog' Hall]

Well, in my day when we received a "review unit" we returned it to the
company that sent it to us after the review was done, but I guess times
have changed.

I decided to bid on this unit, so I bid the minimum, $1.04, but I was
outbid by someone else.  I guess I don't want to bid any higher, since I
do not want to see someone gain from something they did not pay for, and
I too would like to see a deserving Openmoko developer get it for the
least amount of money they can.

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Neo Freerunner on eBay

[Cory Wright]

Hi,

Last year I received a Neo Freerunner to review for a magazine.  I
used the Freerunner enough to evaluate it for the article, and haven't
touched it since, so I've put it for sale on eBay and started the
bidding at $0.99.  Here's a short URL to the auction:

  http://tr.im/gta02

It's in perfect condition, no scratches, and was never used on a daily
basis.  The auction also includes two 2GB MicroSD cards that I bought
to test booting multiple distributions from SD.  Everything that came
with the Freerunner is included in the box.  I've posted a few
pictures of it on the auction as well, so you can zoom in and see the
device up close.

Rather than just throwing out some random price I figured it would be
better to put it up for auction and let the market decide what its
worth.  Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions.

Sorry for the advertisement, but I thought someone here might be
looking for a Freerunner at a discount.

Cory

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Re: Neo FreeRunner For Sale

[rakshat hooja]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Charles Hill wrote:

> Due to an unexpected case of unemployment, I am forced to sell my New
> FreeRunner phone and focus on projects that generate me money.  Hacking this
> is fun, but I can't eat it.
>
> It is one of the 850 MHz U.S. models, and has been working fine on AT&T
> since I purchased it.  I just flashed it with OM2008.12, so it is fresh.
> I've been using it on QT for some time.  This is one of the first retail
> units, pre-ordered in a 10-unit pack from the OpenMoko store.
>
> I'm including the original box, phone (duh!), charger, USB cable, soft
> pouch & stylus.  I'll also throw in the original 512 Mb microSD card in
> addition to a 1 Gb micro and 8 Gb micro SDHC cards.  Bring your own SIM.
> $300 and free shipping in the U.S.
>
> Send me an e-mail if you're interested.  I'm in the Chicago area if anyone
> wants to see it or pick it up locally.
>
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I would be interested if you can give it for $ 230 plus shipping.

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Neo FreeRunner For Sale

[Charles Hill]

Due to an unexpected case of unemployment, I am forced to sell my New
FreeRunner phone and focus on projects that generate me money.  Hacking this
is fun, but I can't eat it.

It is one of the 850 MHz U.S. models, and has been working fine on AT&T
since I purchased it.  I just flashed it with OM2008.12, so it is fresh.
I've been using it on QT for some time.  This is one of the first retail
units, pre-ordered in a 10-unit pack from the OpenMoko store.

I'm including the original box, phone (duh!), charger, USB cable, soft pouch
& stylus.  I'll also throw in the original 512 Mb microSD card in addition
to a 1 Gb micro and 8 Gb micro SDHC cards.  Bring your own SIM.  $300 and
free shipping in the U.S.

Send me an e-mail if you're interested.  I'm in the Chicago area if anyone
wants to see it or pick it up locally.

 Charles
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Re: Problems Flashing the Neo Freerunner

[Gonzalo Igartua]

Solved !


Ok I'm sorry but the problem was my internet conection... I have a 3G
conection and the images downloaded was broken.


I had so many*. bin that I had not noticed that the sizes of the images
did not coincide,
passing the md5sum  I have seen the problem.

Sorry,for having asked for a problem so easy

Thanks a lot !!!

2008/11/23 bravas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>  I found that command here
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util
>
> Say
>  Copying a kernel into RAM
>
> dfu-util -a 0 -R -D /path/to/uImage
>
> Once this has finished, the kernel will be available at the default load
> address of 0x3200 in Neo1973 RAM.
>
>
> But I have a Neo FreeRunner, I am not looked in detail 'in Neo1973 RAM. '
>
> This command returns me
>
>
>   1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Escritorio]# dfu-util -a 0 -R -D
>Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin
>2. dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
>   3. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>   4.
>   5. Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
>   6. Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=9, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=0,
>   name="RAM 0x3200"
>   7. Claiming USB DFU Interface...
>   8. Setting Alternate Setting ...
>   9. Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14
>   10. dfuERROR, clearing status
>   11. Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
>   12. dfuIDLE, continuing
>   13. Transfer Size = 0x1000
>   14. bytes_per_hash=14172
>   15. Starting download:
>   [##] finished!
>   16. state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present
>   17. Done!
>   18. Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode
>
>
>
>
> Knecht Rupprecht, was at the bar drinking beer, and no answer to telephone
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>
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> Regards
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Re: Problems Flashing the Neo Freerunner

[Gonzalo Igartua]

  I found that command here

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util

Say
 Copying a kernel into RAM

dfu-util -a 0 -R -D /path/to/uImage

Once this has finished, the kernel will be available at the default load
address of 0x3200 in Neo1973 RAM.


But I have a Neo FreeRunner, I am not looked in detail 'in Neo1973 RAM. '

This command returns me


   1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Escritorio]# dfu-util -a 0 -R -D
   Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin
   2. dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
   3. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
   4.
   5. Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
   6. Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=9, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=0,
   name="RAM 0x3200"
   7. Claiming USB DFU Interface...
   8. Setting Alternate Setting ...
   9. Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14
   10. dfuERROR, clearing status
   11. Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
   12. dfuIDLE, continuing
   13. Transfer Size = 0x1000
   14. bytes_per_hash=14172
   15. Starting download:
   [##] finished!
   16. state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present
   17. Done!
   18. Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode




Knecht Rupprecht, was at the bar drinking beer, and no answer to telephone
calls that day

Thanks
Regards

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Re: Problems Flashing the Neo Freerunner

[bravas]

  I found that command here

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util

Say
 Copying a kernel into RAM

dfu-util -a 0 -R -D /path/to/uImage

Once this has finished, the kernel will be available at the default load
address of 0x3200 in Neo1973 RAM.


But I have a Neo FreeRunner, I am not looked in detail 'in Neo1973 RAM. '

This command returns me


   1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Escritorio]# dfu-util -a 0 -R -D
   Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin
   2. dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
   3. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
   4.
   5. Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
   6. Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=9, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=0,
   name="RAM 0x3200"
   7. Claiming USB DFU Interface...
   8. Setting Alternate Setting ...
   9. Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14
   10. dfuERROR, clearing status
   11. Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
   12. dfuIDLE, continuing
   13. Transfer Size = 0x1000
   14. bytes_per_hash=14172
   15. Starting download:
   [##] finished!
   16. state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present
   17. Done!
   18. Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode




Knecht Rupprecht, was at the bar drinking beer, and no answer to telephone
calls that day

Thanks
Regards

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Re: Problems Flashing the Neo Freerunner

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2008/11/22 bravas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> dfu-util -a 0 -R -D Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin


>From whom did you get that "-a 0"? Knecht Rupprecht?
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Problems Flashing the Neo Freerunner

[bravas]

Hi, I bought a few days ago a Neo FreeRunner and wanted to switch to version
2008.9.
I have read these guides
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD 


But when it started,pressing boot either on the menu NOR or NAND Always get
the error:

mage Name:Openmoko/2.6.24+git75969+a1e97c6
Created: 2008.-11-05
Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
Data Size:1894648 Bytes = 1.8 MB
Load Address:30008000
Entry Point:30008000
Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC
Can't get Kernel image


I have installed with mandriva linux,and transfers of kernel,rootfs or
u-boot always end up with the correct message

state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present
Done!

the steps of the guides mentioned above ,always end well,I have completed
the steps that are necessary, but it fails when  boot.


Download the images from here
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ 

I have also tried to boot from the SD and gives me the same error.
After 4 days of testing with images of openmoko, and Qtopia,always say the
same when booting

Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC
Can't get Kernel image

I also tested with different u-boot downloaded from here
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/?M=D  
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/?M=D  
But I get the same error :(

The truth that the first time I started Flashing the Neo Freerunner,I
execute a command following in the steps of that other guide 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util 

dfu-util -a 0 -R -D Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin

I think that I should not have run
Is the only command that I executed it should not have done it.

I posted my problem here

http://openmokoforums.eu/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=79
http://openmokoforums.eu/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=79 


Thanks

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Re: Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| I almost think that it's the battery that went mad temporarily (see

The batteries do have a "safety cutoff" feature that disconnects the
actual battery part from the terminals at the top of the battery.  The
cutoff is triggered by various things that make the battery feel
"threatened" including too deep discharge.  Once it is cutoff, this is
"sticky".

To reconnect the battery to the terminals you need to show the terminals
a highish voltage briefly, I give the battery 0V and V+ terminals some
power from USB for a second or so (but then my laptop doesn't care about
a short on USB power, so do at your own risk if you use that power
source and don't leave it connected for longer than a second or two).
This resets the battery protection circuit and then this can help get
the Freerunner started and into charging mode again.

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Re: Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

[Tobias Kündig]

OK, I'll try all the things you mentioned. The Problem is, I don't have
another Battery (ex. Nokia BL5C). But I'll talk to some friends, I'm sure
I'm able to find one.

Thanks for your help. I'll report the result in this thread.

Regards,
Tobias

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> 2008/11/14 arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> > It wasn't the first time I had this issue, so I just took out the
>> battery
>> > and put it back in it's place.
>>
>> leave the phone w/o battery for a while. i think, i recall something about
>> taking time to fully empty (and thus reset) internal parts.
>
>
> I almost think that it's the battery that went mad temporarily (see thread
> "Battery killed" some days ago). The FR worked at once with external power
> or with another battery. 6 hours later, the old battery was working ok
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Re: Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

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2008/11/14 arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > It wasn't the first time I had this issue, so I just took out the battery
> > and put it back in it's place.
>
> leave the phone w/o battery for a while. i think, i recall something about
> taking time to fully empty (and thus reset) internal parts.


I almost think that it's the battery that went mad temporarily (see thread
"Battery killed" some days ago). The FR worked at once with external power
or with another battery. 6 hours later, the old battery was working ok
again, too.
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Re: Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

[rakshat hooja]

Also try starting with a Nokia BL5C, attaching the wall charger and then hot
swaping the Freerunner battery.

Rakshat

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:02 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Re: Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

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> It wasn't the first time I had this issue, so I just took out the battery
> and put it back in it's place.

leave the phone w/o battery for a while. i think, i recall something about  
taking time to fully empty (and thus reset) internal parts.

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Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

[Tobias Kündig]

Hi

Two days ago I flashed the latest Android images. Once Android was fully
booted, I started to play around with it.
At this time the battery was at least 50 % full. A couple of minutes later,
I decided to shutdown the phone and reflash my Qt Extended backup.
So I pressed the power button for 2 seconds. Then the screen blacked out
immediately. It didn't response to any screen or AUX/Power input anymore.
It wasn't the first time I had this issue, so I just took out the battery
and put it back in it's place.

Unfortunately I can't power on the phone since then. I press power (for at
least 10 seconds) and nothing happens...
Recharching the phone with my wall charger doesn't work either.

Do you have any ideas how I can get my neo back to life?
Could this be a hardware defect? I don't think that the battery is dead...

Thank you.
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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[arne anka]

> lsmod displays just one module - ipv6

sounds familiar.
when was the last time you updated your kernel/modules?

> ifconfig does not show any interface
> the only '*ether*' module under /lib/modules is
> /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_ether.ko

i am pretty sure there should be g_ether as well -- and since it went awol  
it's probably the cause of your worries.

> however, if I boot the Neo fully from the SD-card with Om2008.9,
> then lsmod displays the same module (ipv6) and cdc_ether is also
> the only '*ether*' module found.
> ifconfig displays eth0, lo and usb0.

sounds like the modules are built-in, lo is ok (forgot it) but eth0 is  
wlan. i wonder why it would be enabled by default.

anyway, i propose to update your kernel/modules and reboot. since you got  
another booting installation on your sd card it should be pretty safe.

>> as a workaround (i do not know, how the script continues) you might try  
>> to
>> put an & at the end of that line
>> ifup -a &
>> so that, hopefully, the process backgrounds and the booting continues.
>
> hmm - and is this a good idea?

how would i know? :-)
as said before: i don't know the script in question and the distribution  
either. you could even remove the link, causing the script to remain  
unexecuted.


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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[Ales Horak]

Hi,

arne anka wrote:
> > I have found out that when Neo stops at the 40%, it is staying in
> > /etc/rcS.d/S40networking at the command:
> >
> > echo -n "Configuring network interfaces... "
> > ifup -a
> >
> > it never gets after the "ifup".
> 
> 
> the only network device available at that time should be usb0. have  a  
> look i it is there at all.
> if not, search for g_ether below /lib/modules and/or put an lsmod before  
> that ifup -a to check if it is loaded.

lsmod displays just one module - ipv6
ifconfig does not show any interface
the only '*ether*' module under /lib/modules is
/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_ether.ko

however, if I boot the Neo fully from the SD-card with Om2008.9,
then lsmod displays the same module (ipv6) and cdc_ether is also
the only '*ether*' module found.
ifconfig displays eth0, lo and usb0.

> as a workaround (i do not know, how the script continues) you might try to  
> put an & at the end of that line
> ifup -a &
> so that, hopefully, the process backgrounds and the booting continues.

hmm - and is this a good idea?

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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[arne anka]

> I have found out that when Neo stops at the 40%, it is staying in
> /etc/rcS.d/S40networking at the command:
>
> echo -n "Configuring network interfaces... "
> ifup -a
>
> it never gets after the "ifup".


the only network device available at that time should be usb0. have  a  
look i it is there at all.
if not, search for g_ether below /lib/modules and/or put an lsmod before  
that ifup -a to check if it is loaded.

as a workaround (i do not know, how the script continues) you might try to  
put an & at the end of that line
ifup -a &
so that, hopefully, the process backgrounds and the booting continues.

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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[Ales Horak]

Hi Joachim and others,

thanks to Joachim Ott's instructions, I managed to get a working
system on a spare SD-card, boot the phone and add extra debug
messages to the problematic rootfs. 

I have found out that when Neo stops at the 40%, it is staying in
/etc/rcS.d/S40networking at the command:

echo -n "Configuring network interfaces... "
ifup -a

it never gets after the "ifup".

any idea what to try next?

-- 
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Ales Horak wrote:
> Joachim Ott wrote:
> > 2008/11/9 Ales Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > I have been using Neo Freerunner for 2 months as a daily phone
> > > with updated 2008.9 without any problems. two days ago my Neo
> > > stopped booting at the 40% of the splash screen and does not go
> > > further. if I press the power button for a few seconds, the phone
> > > turns off, on next booting however it goes only to the 40% and
> > > thats all.
> > >
> > > then I flashed the rootfs with newest FDOM and the kernel with
> > > Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin and it booted fully. today,
> > > after about 24 hours, the phone again boots just to the 40%.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
> > >Failed to set mode -0755- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
> > >PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs2
> > >PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2
> > >
> > >   the only thing that can be done with the phone is to turn
> > >   it off with the power button.
> > 
> > 
> > It hangs somewhere between  S37populate-volatile.sh and S40networking in
> > /etc/rcS.d. To get closer to it, you could put some info into the scripts,
> > like a "echo === $0 $1 ===" at the beginning, maybe an additional "set -x"
> > to see what's going on.
> 
> hm, that's a problem, since sshd does not start yet (I can ping
> the neo, but ssh cannot connect) and I cannot access the
> filesystem then :-(
> 
> by,
> -- 
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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[Ales Horak]

Hi,

Joachim Ott wrote:
> 2008/11/9 Ales Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I have been using Neo Freerunner for 2 months as a daily phone
> > with updated 2008.9 without any problems. two days ago my Neo
> > stopped booting at the 40% of the splash screen and does not go
> > further. if I press the power button for a few seconds, the phone
> > turns off, on next booting however it goes only to the 40% and
> > thats all.
> >
> > then I flashed the rootfs with newest FDOM and the kernel with
> > Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin and it booted fully. today,
> > after about 24 hours, the phone again boots just to the 40%.
> >
> > ...
> >Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
> >Failed to set mode -0755- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
> >PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs2
> >PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2
> >
> >   the only thing that can be done with the phone is to turn
> >   it off with the power button.
> 
> 
> It hangs somewhere between  S37populate-volatile.sh and S40networking in
> /etc/rcS.d. To get closer to it, you could put some info into the scripts,
> like a "echo === $0 $1 ===" at the beginning, maybe an additional "set -x"
> to see what's going on.

hm, that's a problem, since sshd does not start yet (I can ping
the neo, but ssh cannot connect) and I cannot access the
filesystem then :-(

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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[Najib]

I have the same problem too and still doesn't find any solution yet.

Ales Horak wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have been using Neo Freerunner for 2 months as a daily phone
> with updated 2008.9 without any problems. two days ago my Neo
> stopped booting at the 40% of the splash screen and does not go
> further. if I press the power button for a few seconds, the phone
> turns off, on next booting however it goes only to the 40% and
> thats all.
>
> then I flashed the rootfs with newest FDOM and the kernel with
> Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin and it booted fully. today,
> after about 24 hours, the phone again boots just to the 40%.
>
> the exact behavior is (see the images at
> http://www.fi.muni.cz/~hales/scr.png):
>
> 1. standard booting, 30 seconds pause after 
>
> pcf50633 0-0073: setting system clock to 2008-11-09 12:48:08 UTC 
> (1226234888)
>
> 2. then it says:
>
> CRCFAIL 0x1a3f
> CRCFAIL 0x1a3f
> CRCFAIL 0x1a3f
> ...
> Freeing init memory: 128K
> PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs1
> PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa1
> ...
>
> 3. booting splash appears and goes up to 40%, then stops for
>about 1-2 minutes
>
> 4. the splash goes away and the following error messages are
>the last thing displayed:
>
> Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/run/utmp-.
> Failed to set mode -0664- for -/var/run/utmp-.
> Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/run/resolv.conf-.
> Failed to set mode -0644- for -/var/run/resolv.conf-.
> Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/run/wtmp-.
> Failed to set mode -0664- for -/var/run/wtmp-.
> Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
> Failed to set mode -0755- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
> PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs2
> PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2
>
>the only thing that can be done with the phone is to turn
>it off with the power button.
>
>
> does anyone know what happened to this Neo?   
>
> does anyone know how to repair it?
>
> thanks,
>   


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Re: Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[Joachim Ott]

2008/11/9 Ales Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi everybody,
>
> I have been using Neo Freerunner for 2 months as a daily phone
> with updated 2008.9 without any problems. two days ago my Neo
> stopped booting at the 40% of the splash screen and does not go
> further. if I press the power button for a few seconds, the phone
> turns off, on next booting however it goes only to the 40% and
> thats all.
>
> then I flashed the rootfs with newest FDOM and the kernel with
> Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin and it booted fully. today,
> after about 24 hours, the phone again boots just to the 40%.
>
> ...
>Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
>Failed to set mode -0755- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
>PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs2
>PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2
>
>   the only thing that can be done with the phone is to turn
>   it off with the power button.


It hangs somewhere between  S37populate-volatile.sh and S40networking in
/etc/rcS.d. To get closer to it, you could put some info into the scripts,
like a "echo === $0 $1 ===" at the beginning, maybe an additional "set -x"
to see what's going on.
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Neo Freerunner stopped booting (not due to the battery)

[Ales Horak]

Hi everybody,

I have been using Neo Freerunner for 2 months as a daily phone
with updated 2008.9 without any problems. two days ago my Neo
stopped booting at the 40% of the splash screen and does not go
further. if I press the power button for a few seconds, the phone
turns off, on next booting however it goes only to the 40% and
thats all.

then I flashed the rootfs with newest FDOM and the kernel with
Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin and it booted fully. today,
after about 24 hours, the phone again boots just to the 40%.

the exact behavior is (see the images at
http://www.fi.muni.cz/~hales/scr.png):

1. standard booting, 30 seconds pause after 

pcf50633 0-0073: setting system clock to 2008-11-09 12:48:08 UTC 
(1226234888)

2. then it says:

CRCFAIL 0x1a3f
CRCFAIL 0x1a3f
CRCFAIL 0x1a3f
...
Freeing init memory: 128K
PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs1
PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa1
...

3. booting splash appears and goes up to 40%, then stops for
   about 1-2 minutes

4. the splash goes away and the following error messages are
   the last thing displayed:

Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/run/utmp-.
Failed to set mode -0664- for -/var/run/utmp-.
Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/run/resolv.conf-.
Failed to set mode -0644- for -/var/run/resolv.conf-.
Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/run/wtmp-.
Failed to set mode -0664- for -/var/run/wtmp-.
Failed to set owner -root- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
Failed to set mode -0755- for -/var/lock/subsys-.
PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcs2
PM: Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2

   the only thing that can be done with the phone is to turn
   it off with the power button.


does anyone know what happened to this Neo?   

does anyone know how to repair it?

thanks,
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getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

Hi again,

I've downloaded the sources of dfu-util and opened them with Anjuta.

The "-71" error is defined in usb_dfu.h:
"DFU_STATE_appDETACH [71]" (I don't know much about C, but in the
sidebar of Anjuta are many symbols defined and behind each of them is a
number in [], and DFU_STATE_appDETACH has number 71, so I think that is
"my" error.
Does that mean that dfu-util *thinks* that I disconnected my Neo?




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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[steffen . linux]

thanks :)
 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:22:42 +0800
> Von: Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Betreff: Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

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> |
> | on a Linux box, read() is part of C standard library.
> 
> | thanks for answer ;)
> |
> | but I get on my Ubuntu
> | "man 2 read
> | No manual entry for read in section 2
> | "
> 
> You can see it here -->
> 
> http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man2/read.2.php
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| man 2 read
|
| on a Linux box, read() is part of C standard library.

| thanks for answer ;)
|
| but I get on my Ubuntu
| "man 2 read
| No manual entry for read in section 2
| "

You can see it here -->

http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man2/read.2.php

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[steffen . linux]

thanks for answer ;)

but I get on my Ubuntu
"man 2 read
No manual entry for read in section 2
"
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> Datum: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:11:42 +0800
> Von: Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Betreff: Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

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> no function "read".
> | Only one file I can't check because I dunno where it is: config.h in
> the svn trunk.
> 
> I don't think it makes the problem, but try
> 
> man 2 read
> 
> on a Linux box, read() is part of C standard library.
> 
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| now where is the function "read"? and what does this function? I can't
find anything in the sam7dfu.c and in the included files, there is even
no function "read".
| Only one file I can't check because I dunno where it is: config.h in
the svn trunk.

I don't think it makes the problem, but try

man 2 read

on a Linux box, read() is part of C standard library.

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[steffen . linux]

Hi, me again ;)

I think I've the part of the code, where the error occurs:
In sam7dfu.c
"printf("Starting download: [");
fflush(stdout);
while (bytes_sent < st.st_size /* - DFU_HDR */) {
int hashes_todo;

ret = read(fd, buf, xfer_size);
if (ret < 0) {
perror(fname);
goto out_close;
}
"

now where is the function "read"? and what does this function? I can't find 
anything in the sam7dfu.c and in the included files, there is even no function 
"read".
Only one file I can't check because I dunno where it is: config.h in the svn 
trunk.

Why do I think that this is the code where the error occurs?
1. the "Starting download [" 
2. the "perror(fname);", in the other error handlers, there is a ""Error during 
download\n", but in my error message, there is only a "dfu_download error".
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> Datum: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:23:18 -0700
> Von: Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Betreff: Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

> Detructor wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> >>>>>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> 
> Is that error copy-and-pasted? A friend is looking through the source 
> and is not finding even "[dfu_download" anywhere.
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[steffen . linux]

the complete log:
[code]
 sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2 
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
bytes_per_hash=1433927
Starting download: [dfu_download error -71
Error during download
[/code]
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> Von: Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Betreff: Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

> Detructor wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> >>>>>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> 
> Is that error copy-and-pasted? A friend is looking through the source 
> and is not finding even "[dfu_download" anywhere.
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[steffen . linux]

you've to take the [ away.
The download is starting and the error is a direct output then.
So, the error message must be
"dfu_download error -71"

thanks for your help
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> Von: Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Betreff: Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

> Detructor wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> >>>>>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> 
> Is that error copy-and-pasted? A friend is looking through the source 
> and is not finding even "[dfu_download" anywhere.
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[steffen . linux]

I had no other USB device plugged in, when I tried flashing the neo, so no, 
thats not the reason
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> Datum: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:08:47 -0700
> Von: Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> >>>>>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> >>>>>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without
> getting this error.
> >>>>>>> 
> 
> Someone on IRC suggested these. A bit of a long shot, but when all else 
> fails:
> 
> 1. Try unplugging all other USB devices, in case dfu-util is getting 
> confused
> 2. Don't use a hub
> 3. Plug in to the very same USB port that you used when it used to work
> 
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
>>> 
>>> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
>>> 
>>> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting 
>>> this error.
>>> 

Someone on IRC suggested these. A bit of a long shot, but when all else 
fails:

1. Try unplugging all other USB devices, in case dfu-util is getting 
confused
2. Don't use a hub
3. Plug in to the very same USB port that you used when it used to work

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Detructor wrote:

>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"

Is that error copy-and-pasted? A friend is looking through the source 
and is not finding even "[dfu_download" anywhere.

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Detructor wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:47 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>> Detructor wrote:
>>> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:32 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
 Detructor wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 11:11 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>> Detructor wrote:
>>> I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
>>> "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
>>>
>>> I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
>>> 
>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
>>> 
>>> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
>>> 
>>> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting 
>>> this error.
>>> 
>>> My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
>>> 
>>> I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in 
>>> the www
>>> (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
>>> 
>>> hope for help
>>> Detructor
>>> 
>>> ==
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when 
>>> you give 
>>> the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
>>> kernel 
>>> image.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>> And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
>> hard to update until we solve this problem.
>>
>> Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?
>>
>> Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with 
>> md5sum?
>>
>> Michael
>>
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> -> yep for kernel, too. but with some luck I got the kernel flashed (I
> tried it 20 times, than it was flashed ;))
>
> -> nope I never flashed u-boot and yep it is the correct image (md5 is
> correct) 
 This could be the cause of your trouble. Your u-boot may be quite out of 
 date.

 By the way, have you tried flashing with the NOR u-boot? If that works, 
 I would recommend you right away flash a new u-boot into NAND, then use 
 that new u-boot to flash your kernel and rootfs.




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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've tried just 10 seconds ago to flash u-boot via NAND...after three
>>> tries, the 4th get it on the phone...after that, I choosed "power off"
>>> and restarted the phone...back in NAND, I tried to flash the rootfs
>>> again...but, there was the same error.
>>> I don't know why this error occurs, but 2 weeks before, I've flashed the
>>> freerunner several times without that problem...
>>>
>>> errhm, before you ask: the u-boot version that I've flashed is from
>>> here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/
>> Try to flash the NAND u-boot while using the u-boot in NOR. IIRC this 
>> was prefereable for some reason.
>>
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> 
> same result...

Ouch. I'm out of ideas.

We need help from someone more expert with dfu-util than I. Let me see 
what I can find.

We might also ask on the kernel list and on the IRC channel.

Finally, we can take a look in the dfu-util source and see what reasons 
are for error -71.

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:47 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> Detructor wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:32 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> >> Detructor wrote:
> >>> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 11:11 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>  Detructor wrote:
> > I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
> > "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
> >
> > I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
> >
> > Hey guys,
> > 
> > I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
> > 
> > When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> > "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> > 
> > sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> > 
> > When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting 
> > this error.
> > 
> > My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
> > 
> > I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in 
> > the www
> > (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
> > 
> > hope for help
> > Detructor
> > 
> > ==
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when 
> > you give 
> > the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
> > kernel 
> > image.
> > 
> > Michael
>  And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
>  hard to update until we solve this problem.
> 
>  Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?
> 
>  Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with 
>  md5sum?
> 
>  Michael
> 
> 
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> >>> -> yep for kernel, too. but with some luck I got the kernel flashed (I
> >>> tried it 20 times, than it was flashed ;))
> >>>
> >>> -> nope I never flashed u-boot and yep it is the correct image (md5 is
> >>> correct) 
> >> This could be the cause of your trouble. Your u-boot may be quite out of 
> >> date.
> >>
> >> By the way, have you tried flashing with the NOR u-boot? If that works, 
> >> I would recommend you right away flash a new u-boot into NAND, then use 
> >> that new u-boot to flash your kernel and rootfs.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> support@lists.openmoko.org
> >> https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've tried just 10 seconds ago to flash u-boot via NAND...after three
> > tries, the 4th get it on the phone...after that, I choosed "power off"
> > and restarted the phone...back in NAND, I tried to flash the rootfs
> > again...but, there was the same error.
> > I don't know why this error occurs, but 2 weeks before, I've flashed the
> > freerunner several times without that problem...
> > 
> > errhm, before you ask: the u-boot version that I've flashed is from
> > here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/
> 
> Try to flash the NAND u-boot while using the u-boot in NOR. IIRC this 
> was prefereable for some reason.
> 
> M
> 
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same result...


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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Detructor wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:32 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>> Detructor wrote:
>>> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 11:11 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
 Detructor wrote:
> I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
> "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
>
> I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
>
> Hey guys,
> 
> I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
> 
> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> 
> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> 
> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this 
> error.
> 
> My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
> 
> I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the 
> www
> (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
> 
> hope for help
> Detructor
> 
> ==
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when 
> you give 
> the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
> kernel 
> image.
> 
> Michael
 And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
 hard to update until we solve this problem.

 Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?

 Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with 
 md5sum?

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>>> -> yep for kernel, too. but with some luck I got the kernel flashed (I
>>> tried it 20 times, than it was flashed ;))
>>>
>>> -> nope I never flashed u-boot and yep it is the correct image (md5 is
>>> correct) 
>> This could be the cause of your trouble. Your u-boot may be quite out of 
>> date.
>>
>> By the way, have you tried flashing with the NOR u-boot? If that works, 
>> I would recommend you right away flash a new u-boot into NAND, then use 
>> that new u-boot to flash your kernel and rootfs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've tried just 10 seconds ago to flash u-boot via NAND...after three
> tries, the 4th get it on the phone...after that, I choosed "power off"
> and restarted the phone...back in NAND, I tried to flash the rootfs
> again...but, there was the same error.
> I don't know why this error occurs, but 2 weeks before, I've flashed the
> freerunner several times without that problem...
> 
> errhm, before you ask: the u-boot version that I've flashed is from
> here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

Try to flash the NAND u-boot while using the u-boot in NOR. IIRC this 
was prefereable for some reason.

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:32 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> Detructor wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 11:11 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> >> Detructor wrote:
> >>> I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
> >>> "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
> >>>
> >>> I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
> >>>
> >>> Hey guys,
> >>> 
> >>> I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
> >>> 
> >>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> >>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> >>> 
> >>> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> >>> 
> >>> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this 
> >>> error.
> >>> 
> >>> My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
> >>> 
> >>> I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the 
> >>> www
> >>> (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
> >>> 
> >>> hope for help
> >>> Detructor
> >>> 
> >>> ==
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when 
> >>> you give 
> >>> the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
> >>> kernel 
> >>> image.
> >>> 
> >>> Michael
> >>
> >> And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
> >> hard to update until we solve this problem.
> >>
> >> Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?
> >>
> >> Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with 
> >> md5sum?
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
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> > 
> > -> yep for kernel, too. but with some luck I got the kernel flashed (I
> > tried it 20 times, than it was flashed ;))
> > 
> > -> nope I never flashed u-boot and yep it is the correct image (md5 is
> > correct) 
> 
> This could be the cause of your trouble. Your u-boot may be quite out of 
> date.
> 
> By the way, have you tried flashing with the NOR u-boot? If that works, 
> I would recommend you right away flash a new u-boot into NAND, then use 
> that new u-boot to flash your kernel and rootfs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi,

I've tried just 10 seconds ago to flash u-boot via NAND...after three
tries, the 4th get it on the phone...after that, I choosed "power off"
and restarted the phone...back in NAND, I tried to flash the rootfs
again...but, there was the same error.
I don't know why this error occurs, but 2 weeks before, I've flashed the
freerunner several times without that problem...

errhm, before you ask: the u-boot version that I've flashed is from
here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/




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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Detructor wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 11:11 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>> Detructor wrote:
>>> I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
>>> "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
>>>
>>> I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
>>> 
>>> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
>>> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
>>> 
>>> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
>>> 
>>> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this 
>>> error.
>>> 
>>> My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
>>> 
>>> I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the 
>>> www
>>> (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
>>> 
>>> hope for help
>>> Detructor
>>> 
>>> ==
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when you 
>>> give 
>>> the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
>>> kernel 
>>> image.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>
>> And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
>> hard to update until we solve this problem.
>>
>> Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?
>>
>> Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with md5sum?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
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> 
> -> yep for kernel, too. but with some luck I got the kernel flashed (I
> tried it 20 times, than it was flashed ;))
> 
> -> nope I never flashed u-boot and yep it is the correct image (md5 is
> correct) 

This could be the cause of your trouble. Your u-boot may be quite out of 
date.

By the way, have you tried flashing with the NOR u-boot? If that works, 
I would recommend you right away flash a new u-boot into NAND, then use 
that new u-boot to flash your kernel and rootfs.




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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 11:11 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> Detructor wrote:
> > I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
> > "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
> > 
> > I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
> > 
> > Hey guys,
> > 
> > I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
> > 
> > When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> > "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> > 
> > sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> > 
> > When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this 
> > error.
> > 
> > My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
> > 
> > I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the 
> > www
> > (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
> > 
> > hope for help
> > Detructor
> > 
> > ==
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when you 
> > give 
> > the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
> > kernel 
> > image.
> > 
> > Michael
> 
> 
> And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
> hard to update until we solve this problem.
> 
> Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?
> 
> Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with md5sum?
> 
> Michael
> 
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-> yep for kernel, too. but with some luck I got the kernel flashed (I
tried it 20 times, than it was flashed ;))

-> nope I never flashed u-boot and yep it is the correct image (md5 is
correct) 

do you know what this error number means?


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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Detructor wrote:
> I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
> "sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"
> 
> I'm using the standard terminal from gnome
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
> 
> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> 
> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> 
> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this 
> error.
> 
> My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
> 
> I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
> (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).
> 
> hope for help
> Detructor
> 
> ==
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when you 
> give 
> the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a 
> kernel 
> image.
> 
> Michael


And is your u-boot a recent version? Although if it's not it will be 
hard to update until we solve this problem.

Does this problem persist for kernel and u-boot too?

Can you check the integrity of the image you're trying to flash with md5sum?

Michael


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getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

I've used the command out of the wiki...for example
"sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2"

I'm using the standard terminal from gnome

Hey guys,

I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:

When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
"Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"

sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.

When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this error.

My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1

I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
(only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).

hope for help
Detructor

==

Hi,

What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when you give 
the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a kernel 
image.

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[Fwd: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner]

[Michael Shiloh]

 Original Message 
Subject: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:31:43 +0200
From: Detructor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey guys,

I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:

When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
"Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"

sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.

When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this error.

My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1

I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
(only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).

hope for help
Detructor

==

Hi,

What command line did you use? One cause of this error is when you give 
the wrong argument to dfu-util, e.g. -a u-boot while flashing a kernel 
image.

Michael

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Re: can't connect a usb-pen to the neo freerunner

[Thomas Bertani]

2008/8/31 polz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Sunday 31 August 2008 08:38:01 Thomas Bertani wrote:
> > Hi, I connected an usb pen to the usb port of the freerunner but when I
> > plug it in, nothing appends. How can I mount it manually? I can't find
> the
> > device name...
> Is the port in host mode ? What does dmesg say when you insert the pen ?
>

yes, I typed

echo "host" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode


and then

echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode

when I connect the usb pen dmesg says

[ 1401.73] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and
address 91
[ 1401.935000] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 1403.085000] SCSI subsystem initialized
[ 1403.305000] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[ 1403.34] scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[ 1403.36] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[ 1403.36] usb-storage: device found at 91
[ 1403.365000] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[ 1403.37] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[ 1408.38] usb-storage: device scan complete
[ 1408.44] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access TDK  TDK Trans-it
PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS






now i'm trying to configure my huawei e270 modem :D
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Re: can't connect a usb-pen to the neo freerunner

[polz]

On Sunday 31 August 2008 08:38:01 Thomas Bertani wrote:
> Hi, I connected an usb pen to the usb port of the freerunner but when I
> plug it in, nothing appends. How can I mount it manually? I can't find the
> device name...
Is the port in host mode ? What does dmesg say when you insert the pen ?

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Re: can't connect a usb-pen to the neo freerunner

[Thomas Bertani]

2008/8/31 Michael Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  > Hi, I connected an usb pen to the usb port of the freerunner but when I
>  > plugit in, nothing appends. How can I mount it manually? I can't find
> the device
>  > name...
>
> You need to put the USB port into host mode first. Please search the
> Wiki for how to do this.
>
>
thx I have done it successfully XD

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Re: can't connect a usb-pen to the neo freerunner

[Michael Kluge]

 > Hi, I connected an usb pen to the usb port of the freerunner but when I
 > plugit in, nothing appends. How can I mount it manually? I can't find 
the device
 > name...

You need to put the USB port into host mode first. Please search the 
Wiki for how to do this.



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can't connect a usb-pen to the neo freerunner

[Thomas Bertani]

Hi, I connected an usb pen to the usb port of the freerunner but when I plug
it in, nothing appends. How can I mount it manually? I can't find the device
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Re: neo freerunner freezes when gps turned on

[Zack Mollusc]

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> Vimal Joseph ha scritto:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'v posted a problem of frequent freezing of Neo Freerunner.
>> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/000926.html
>>
>> It turned out that the problem is with the gps. As the system freezes
>> after some time whenever i turnd the gps on. The problem was not there
>> with the qtopia image may be because the driver for gps is not there
>> in qtopia (I'm not very sure about this).
>>
>> I'v just installed the 2008.8 image and the phone freezes whenever i
>> turned the gps on. With in few seconds the screen freezes and nothing
>> works till i remove the battery.
>>
>> Is any one having same symptoms? What can be the problem?
>> 
>
> Last time I've used Xglamo based distros I had this too. As I said in 
> the other thread, imho the problem is only due to Glamo and/or Xglamo 
> since using Xfbdev workarounds it (remove xglamo and install xfbdev 
> instead, no more freezes!).
>
> This is supported also by the freezing errors you reported (and that I 
> got too).
>
>   
Hi, I run 2008.8 and my GPS seems to work ok. My Freerunner arrived with
a smd capacitor (looks like 0402) across two of the pins on the sd card
socket as per the mod
athttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf
obviously i don't know the value of the capacitance.




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Re: neo freerunner freezes when gps turned on

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Vimal Joseph ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> I'v posted a problem of frequent freezing of Neo Freerunner.
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/000926.html
> 
> It turned out that the problem is with the gps. As the system freezes
> after some time whenever i turnd the gps on. The problem was not there
> with the qtopia image may be because the driver for gps is not there
> in qtopia (I'm not very sure about this).
> 
> I'v just installed the 2008.8 image and the phone freezes whenever i
> turned the gps on. With in few seconds the screen freezes and nothing
> works till i remove the battery.
> 
> Is any one having same symptoms? What can be the problem?

Last time I've used Xglamo based distros I had this too. As I said in 
the other thread, imho the problem is only due to Glamo and/or Xglamo 
since using Xfbdev workarounds it (remove xglamo and install xfbdev 
instead, no more freezes!).

This is supported also by the freezing errors you reported (and that I 
got too).

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Re: neo freerunner freezes when gps turned on

[Risto H. Kurppa]

I run 2007.2 with recent updates and using gps and tangogps seems to
lock the whole device, all I can do is remove the battery. Also agps
has started acting weird, it often can't get a fix (because it's
frozen) even though tango might show me the location nice and neat.

But generally, using tangogps for a while tends to freeze Freerunner.



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Re: neo freerunner freezes when gps turned on

[Michael T. Dean]

On 08/08/2008 03:20 PM, Vimal Joseph wrote:
> I'v posted a problem of frequent freezing of Neo Freerunner.
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/000926.html
>
> It turned out that the problem is with the gps. As the system freezes
> after some time whenever i turnd the gps on. The problem was not there
> with the qtopia image may be because the driver for gps is not there
> in qtopia (I'm not very sure about this).
>
> I'v just installed the 2008.8 image and the phone freezes whenever i
> turned the gps on. With in few seconds the screen freezes and nothing
> works till i remove the battery.
>
> Is any one having same symptoms? What can be the problem?

I was getting that for a while, but it seems to have cleared up.  I 
don't know what specifically changed, but here are the things I did:

Using the 2007.2 image with a few opkg upgrade's applied (during 
July--after the first round of SD card/GPS software fixes), I tested GPS 
with agps and TangoGPS.  Using either, my system would lock up (with 
agps it would happen after a varying number of reads--sometimes as few 
as 15 and once as much as 150--one time, even, it locked after obtaining 
a good first fix).  I tried with and without the SD card installed, and 
the system locked either way.  IIRC, though, I was unable to get it to 
fail when doing a cat /dev/ttySAC1 test ( 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS#GTA02_GPS )--i.e. it seemed to only 
lock when a GUI was in use.

So, I did another opkg upgrade (still in July), powered off the FR, 
rebooted, and tested again with the same results.

Then, I went to bed (always an important debugging step).  The next day, 
I booted my FR, played with TangoGPS and couldn't get it to lock up.  I 
then played with agps and still couldn't get it to lock up.  This time, 
however, I was testing during mid-day (as opposed to /very/ late at 
night or early in the morning).

I've since written it off as an ephemeral error.  I don't know enough 
about GPS to know whether it could be due to satellite locations, or 
interference, time of day, or ... but it seems to be stable, now--even 
after some August opkg upgrade's.

So, though I can't really tell you what's wrong or how to fix it, I can 
encourage you to keep trying and eventually, you may find it's working fine.

Hope this helps.  Good luck.

Mike

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neo freerunner freezes when gps turned on

[Vimal Joseph]

Hi,

I'v posted a problem of frequent freezing of Neo Freerunner.
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/000926.html

It turned out that the problem is with the gps. As the system freezes
after some time whenever i turnd the gps on. The problem was not there
with the qtopia image may be because the driver for gps is not there
in qtopia (I'm not very sure about this).

I'v just installed the 2008.8 image and the phone freezes whenever i
turned the gps on. With in few seconds the screen freezes and nothing
works till i remove the battery.

Is any one having same symptoms? What can be the problem?


regards,

~vimal
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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Vimal Joseph]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM, rakshat hooja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you tried manually flashing a new kernel and rootfs with dfu-utils?
>
> manybe try Qtopia or ASU and see if the problem persists


I'v used the scaredycat images

http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080507-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/uImage-2.6.24+git20080507-r0-om-gta02.bin

It works with out any problem when I tried without a sim card. But
with my BSNL Sim, it freezes with the message
glamofb_update_lod_controller spin_lock_irqsave
glamofb_update_lod_controller spin_unlock_irqrestore

I also tried qtopia, it works perfectly. But no result with gps.


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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Rod Whitby]

Vimal Joseph wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Try holding the power button down for "10 seconds" next time, if that
>> does turn it off then my thoughts would turn towards Glamo-related
>> problems.  Otherwise something even more 'orrible is happening.
> 
> I'v erased the nand kernel and nand rootfs and flashed
>  Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
>  uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin
> 
> Still the same problem. Nothing happens when holding the power button
> for 10 seconds, no response.

If you have a debug board, hook it up and look for some output from 
u-boot after you preset the reset button on the debug board.  If it 
stops after printing the u-boot version line but before printing the 
Glamo identification line, then it's probably the Glamo problem.

See the kernel list for details.

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Vimal Joseph]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:32 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's exactly the same thing I get. Read my post [1], it seems to be a
> (X)glamo problem, using Xfbdev as replacement workarounds this; however
> it makes really hard to scroll in menus and slowdowns the windows
> operations.
>
> I'm using a self-done hybrid version with Illume+OM2007.1 softwares and
> it's quite usable (but not as fast as using the Xglamo aceleration).

But there is no other reports of this same problem, is it a hardware
problem as Yaroslav Halchenko points out at
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000670.html ?

regards,

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Vimal Joseph]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try holding the power button down for "10 seconds" next time, if that
> does turn it off then my thoughts would turn towards Glamo-related
> problems.  Otherwise something even more 'orrible is happening.

I'v erased the nand kernel and nand rootfs and flashed
 Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin

Still the same problem. Nothing happens when holding the power button
for 10 seconds, no response.

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Vimal Joseph ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> The openmoko neo gta02 hangs frequently. I'v upgraded the software but
> no use. It is happening mostly during calls, working with address
> book, or any other software. Then I have to remove to battery to
> reboot the system.
> 
> What can be the reason? any possible diagnosis method to identify the
> problem? Is there by any chance it is a hardware problem?

That's exactly the same thing I get. Read my post [1], it seems to be a 
(X)glamo problem, using Xfbdev as replacement workarounds this; however 
it makes really hard to scroll in menus and slowdowns the windows 
operations.

I'm using a self-done hybrid version with Illume+OM2007.1 softwares and 
it's quite usable (but not as fast as using the Xglamo aceleration).


[1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000664.html

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> Any flashing lights when this happens?
|
| No. The screen freezes, and the only way to restart is removing the
| battery. (pressing the power button has no effect)

Try holding the power button down for "10 seconds" next time, if that
does turn it off then my thoughts would turn towards Glamo-related
problems.  Otherwise something even more 'orrible is happening.

- -Andy

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[rakshat hooja]

2008/8/1 Vimal Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > Any flashing lights when this happens?
>
> No. The screen freezes, and the only way to restart is removing the
> battery. (pressing the power button has no effect)
>
> regards,
>
> ~vimal
>
>
> Have you tried manually flashing a new kernel and rootfs with dfu-utils?

manybe try Qtopia or ASU and see if the problem persists

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Vimal Joseph]

> Any flashing lights when this happens?

No. The screen freezes, and the only way to restart is removing the
battery. (pressing the power button has no effect)

regards,

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Re: Neo Freerunner hangs

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| The openmoko neo gta02 hangs frequently. I'v upgraded the software but
| no use. It is happening mostly during calls, working with address
| book, or any other software. Then I have to remove to battery to
| reboot the system.
|
| What can be the reason? any possible diagnosis method to identify the
| problem? Is there by any chance it is a hardware problem?

Any flashing lights when this happens?

I'd say it was just suspending but you mention "working with address book".

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Neo Freerunner hangs

[Vimal Joseph]

Hi,

The openmoko neo gta02 hangs frequently. I'v upgraded the software but
no use. It is happening mostly during calls, working with address
book, or any other software. Then I have to remove to battery to
reboot the system.

What can be the reason? any possible diagnosis method to identify the
problem? Is there by any chance it is a hardware problem?

regards,

~vimal

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Re: European SIM card does not work in Neo Freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Felix Mahnke wrote:
> Hi Community,
> 
> my (german) contracted Vodafone SIM card does not work with the Neo 
> Freerunner.
> 
> Neither asks the phone for the PIN nor does it register with the 
> providers network.
> 
> The same card works fine with other phones.
> 
> Here is what I tried so far.
> 
> - Checked that SIM card was inserted properly
> - killed the gsmd
> - powering up the modem
> - logged in /dev/ttySAC0 with minicom
> - sending some AT commands (getting ERROR: SIM card not inserted)
> 
> I checked with some other cards. One is the same problem, another asks 
> for the PIN but doesn't register with network too.
> 
> Any suggestions that could help me on that one are appreciated.
> 
> I'm using the Image the Freerunner was delivered with. I think it's 
> 2007.2 or something like that.
> 
> Thank you in advance.

Hi,

1: Please add your sim card info to 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards

2: Contact your carrier and request a new SIM card. Older SIM cards are 
often the cause of this problem. If this doesn't work please let us know.

Sincerely,
Michael

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Re: Flashing Neo FreeRunner

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> El Tuesday, 22 de July de 2008 18:01:05 Jette Derriche va escriure:
>> Is there any way to see how old my current u-boot is?
>
> One way:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep  Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0
> Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.3.1+git20080116+svnr3821

Ah - neat. Thanks!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep  Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0
Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12
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Re: Flashing Neo FreeRunner

[Jose Luis Perez Diez]

El Tuesday, 22 de July de 2008 18:01:05 Jette Derriche va escriure:
> Is there any way to see how old my current u-boot is?

One way:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# grep  Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0
Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.3.1+git20080116+svnr3821

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Re: Flashing Neo FreeRunner

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> maybe
> cat /etc/angstrom-version

And a couple more:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/om-version
Tag Name:
VERSION: 1d2ffa9abf4464c9ae0d31ee1ca697aaaeb7a81c
Branch: org.openmoko.dev
Build Host: buildhost.openmoko.org
Time Stamp: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:49:30 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/version
200807110147

Nice!
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Re: Flashing Neo FreeRunner

[arne anka]

>> u-boot is not (yet?) upgradable from inside the fr, you still
>> need to flash it.
>
> Is there any way to see how old my current u-boot is?

it says in the boot menu. hold aux and power together when booting.
can't exactly remember the details but the archive should help you there.

btw: re dfu-util broken -- the wiki says "only for big endian".

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Re: Flashing Neo FreeRunner

[Jette Derriche]

On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 17:54 +0200, arne anka wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/angstrom-version
> > Angstrom P1-Snapshot-20080722
> >
> > I ran an opkg update/upgrade today, maybe that is what the date
> > reflects?
> 
> most likely. mine says 20080720.
> though, be aware that opkg upgrade only will save you the work of flashing  
> root/kernel. 

Aah.. okay. Nice :-)

> u-boot is not (yet?) upgradable from inside the fr, you still  
> need to flash it.

Is there any way to see how old my current u-boot is?



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