Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

2016-08-19 Thread Adrian Ball 

Hi Eion,
Excellent! Thanks for that. It looks like the new 
protocol is a bit short on functionality so far 
though. No buddy list or buddy status will be 
painful, the way I use Messenger. :-( Might have 
to look for a new protocol to use. Even Google Talk is dead now too!

Cheers,
Adrian.


At 08:49 AM 20/08/2016, Eion Robb wrote:

Hi Adrian,

I've been working on a new plugin for Yahoo at 
https://github.com/EionRobb/funyahoo-plusplus#readme


Cheers,
Eion

On 19 August 2016 at 22:17, Adrian Ball 
<adr...@perkinstechnologies.com.au> 
wrote:

Hi,

Yahoo has announced it is shutting down the 
current Messenger system in favour of a 'new and improved' system.


https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html

The shutdown is supposedly going to be complete 
at the end of August 2016 (less than a couple of weeks away!).


Will Pidgin continue to support Yahoo? I have no 
idea if the protocol itself will change, but I 
can tell you that messages sent from their new client don't appear in Pidgin.


Regards,
Adrian Ball.



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Re: Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

2016-08-19 Thread Eion Robb 
Hi Adrian,

I've been working on a new plugin for Yahoo at
https://github.com/EionRobb/funyahoo-plusplus#readme

Cheers,
Eion

On 19 August 2016 at 22:17, Adrian Ball 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yahoo has announced it is shutting down the current Messenger system in
> favour of a 'new and improved' system.
>
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html
>
> The shutdown is supposedly going to be complete at the end of August 2016
> (less than a couple of weeks away!).
>
> Will Pidgin continue to support Yahoo? I have no idea if the protocol
> itself will change, but I can tell you that messages sent from their new
> client don't appear in Pidgin.
>
> Regards,
> Adrian Ball.
>
>
>
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Re: Yahoo Messenger, changes

2016-08-19 Thread Eion Robb 
Hi Tom,

I've been working on a new Yahoo plugin that works with the new protocol at
https://github.com/EionRobb/funyahoo-plusplus#readme

Cheers,
Eion

On 20/08/2016 00:50, "Burgess, Tom (KCTCS)" 
wrote:

> Pidgin Support,
>
> Please use this email to create an enhancement ticket as Yahoo Messenger
> is communicating changes to Yahoo Messenger and discontinuing old messenger.
>
> What do I need to do to embrace this change and continue using Pidgin and
> not be forced over to the new Yahoo Messenger client?
>
>
> Here is the message I received last night and this morning.
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> (8:22:45 AM) *YahooMessenger: *It’s time to upgrade! Your version of
> Yahoo Messenger is currently being discontinued, and will no longer work as
> of August 31, 2016. Get the newest version at
> *https://yho.com/getmessenger*  to continue
> using Yahoo Messenger. For more information, go to
> *https://yho.com/YMhelp* 
>
> (8:43:32 PM) *YahooMessenger: *It’s time to upgrade! Your version of
> Yahoo Messenger is currently being discontinued, and will no longer work as
> of August 31, 2016. Get the newest version at
> *https://yho.com/getmessenger*  to continue
> using Yahoo Messenger. For more information, go to
> *https://yho.com/YMhelp* 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>
> As a long time user of Pidgin using the Yahoo Messenger account, I want to
> know how Pidgin will be supporting this change?
>
>
> *– – Tom Burgess – **KCTCS*  *– Technology
> Solutions – 859-256-3228 *
>
>
>
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Re: Yahoo Messenger, changes

2016-08-19 Thread Matthias Apitz 
El día viernes, agosto 19, 2016 a las 02:45:08p. m. +0100, David Woolley 
escribió:

> You need to provide a detailed technical specification of the new 
> protocol, and convince some programmer to implement it.  I suspect that 
> Yahoo is unwilling to release such a specification, so you will have to 
> reverse engineer it.  Also, I think you will find that most programmers 
> take the view that chasing proprietary protocols is a waste of time and 
> just encourages companies to not follow open standards

In general I'm with you, David. The nasty consequence of not having
OpenSource implementations of (reversed engineered) proprietary
protocols is that all, even willing people, are encouraged to buy mobile
device with iOs, Android, ... with all such crappy apps, instead
of Ubuntu mobile devices, or even worth, use WhatsApe or however this
is named.

matthias

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Re: Yahoo Messenger, changes

2016-08-19 Thread Brian Morrison 
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:34:06 +
Burgess, Tom (KCTCS) wrote:

> Any way to find a way to make this work?

Yahoo don't want you to use a 3rd party client, they want to be able to
throw advertising at you in their own proprietary application. I don't
know if there is enough public information about the new Yahoo
Messenger to attempt to implement a Pidgin plugin to interwork with it.

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Re: Yahoo Messenger, changes

2016-08-19 Thread David Woolley 

On 19/08/16 13:49, Burgess, Tom (KCTCS) wrote:

Pidgin Support,


This is a peer support mailing list.  There is no Pidgin support 
organisation.



Please use this email to create an enhancement ticket as Yahoo Messenger


Enhancement tickets need go on the issue tracker, but check for 
duplicates first.



is communicating changes to Yahoo Messenger and discontinuing old messenger.
What do I need to do to embrace this change and continue using Pidgin
and not be forced over to the new Yahoo Messenger client?
Here is the message I received last night and this morning.


You need to provide a detailed technical specification of the new 
protocol, and convince some programmer to implement it.  I suspect that 
Yahoo is unwilling to release such a specification, so you will have to 
reverse engineer it.  Also, I think you will find that most programmers 
take the view that chasing proprietary protocols is a waste of time and 
just encourages companies to not follow open standards



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RE: Yahoo Messenger, changes

2016-08-19 Thread Burgess, Tom (KCTCS) 
As a follow-up to this note, I found this, which is really disturbing.

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html

-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Can I use Yahoo Messenger with 3rd party messaging apps?
No. The new version of Yahoo Messenger doesn't work with 3rd party clients, 
like Trillian and Pidgin.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Any way to find a way to make this work?

Please advise. - Tom Burgess

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From: Burgess, Tom (KCTCS)
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'support@pidgin.im' 
Cc: 'Tom Burgess' 
Subject: Yahoo Messenger, changes


Pidgin Support,

Please use this email to create an enhancement ticket as Yahoo Messenger is 
communicating changes to Yahoo Messenger and discontinuing old messenger.

What do I need to do to embrace this change and continue using Pidgin and not 
be forced over to the new Yahoo Messenger client?


Here is the message I received last night and this morning.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
(8:22:45 AM) YahooMessenger: It's time to upgrade! Your version of Yahoo 
Messenger is currently being discontinued, and will no longer work as of August 
31, 2016. Get the newest version at https://yho.com/getmessenger to continue 
using Yahoo Messenger. For more information, go to https://yho.com/YMhelp

(8:43:32 PM) YahooMessenger: It's time to upgrade! Your version of Yahoo 
Messenger is currently being discontinued, and will no longer work as of August 
31, 2016. Get the newest version at https://yho.com/getmessenger to continue 
using Yahoo Messenger. For more information, go to https://yho.com/YMhelp
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


As a long time user of Pidgin using the Yahoo Messenger account, I want to know 
how Pidgin will be supporting this change?


- - Tom Burgess - KCTCS - Technology Solutions - 
859-256-3228



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Yahoo Messenger, changes

2016-08-19 Thread Burgess, Tom (KCTCS) 
Pidgin Support,

Please use this email to create an enhancement ticket as Yahoo Messenger is 
communicating changes to Yahoo Messenger and discontinuing old messenger.

What do I need to do to embrace this change and continue using Pidgin and not 
be forced over to the new Yahoo Messenger client?


Here is the message I received last night and this morning.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
(8:22:45 AM) YahooMessenger: It's time to upgrade! Your version of Yahoo 
Messenger is currently being discontinued, and will no longer work as of August 
31, 2016. Get the newest version at https://yho.com/getmessenger to continue 
using Yahoo Messenger. For more information, go to https://yho.com/YMhelp

(8:43:32 PM) YahooMessenger: It's time to upgrade! Your version of Yahoo 
Messenger is currently being discontinued, and will no longer work as of August 
31, 2016. Get the newest version at https://yho.com/getmessenger to continue 
using Yahoo Messenger. For more information, go to https://yho.com/YMhelp
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


As a long time user of Pidgin using the Yahoo Messenger account, I want to know 
how Pidgin will be supporting this change?


- - Tom Burgess - KCTCS - Technology Solutions - 
859-256-3228



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Ongoing support for Yahoo protocol?

2016-08-19 Thread Adrian Ball 

Hi,

Yahoo has announced it is shutting down the current Messenger system 
in favour of a 'new and improved' system.


https://help.yahoo.com/kb/yahoo-messenger-for-web/SLN26860.html

The shutdown is supposedly going to be complete at the end of August 
2016 (less than a couple of weeks away!).


Will Pidgin continue to support Yahoo? I have no idea if the protocol 
itself will change, but I can tell you that messages sent from their 
new client don't appear in Pidgin.


Regards,
Adrian Ball.



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