What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread stan
Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is the 
advantage of having it?


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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Sqwertz
stan spie...@hvc.rr.com wrote:

 Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is the 
 advantage of having it?

It's the Seamonkey logo to the right of the address bar that
throbs when it's retrieving a website.

Different themes may turn this into something other than the default
Seamonkey logo.

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/18/2009 6:33 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
 stan spie...@hvc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is the 
 advantage of having it?
 
 It's the Seamonkey logo to the right of the address bar that
 throbs when it's retrieving a website.
 
 Different themes may turn this into something other than the default
 Seamonkey logo.
 
 -sw

It gives the user an indication that the application is not yet really
done with whatever it was asked to do.  For example, a Web server might
have delayed sending the final packets of an image.  The Web page might
look complete.  But if the throbber is still showing some animation, the
the page is not really complete.

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread John Doue

stan wrote:
Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is the 
advantage of having it?


Stan
Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation tool-bar 
and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. On some 
versions of Mozilla products, it sort of moves around, hence the name 
throbber ... Don't want to be more explicit :-)


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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

John Doue wrote:

stan wrote:
Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is 
the advantage of having it?


Stan
Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation tool-bar 
and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. On some 
versions of Mozilla products, it sort of moves around, hence the name 
throbber ... Don't want to be more explicit :-)



I did not see any large M on my SM brower 
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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Robert Kaiser

John Doue wrote:

stan wrote:

Another post talks about the throbber. What is a throbber? What is the
advantage of having it?

Stan

Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation tool-bar
and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. On some
versions of Mozilla products, it sort of moves around, hence the name
throbber ... Don't want to be more explicit :-)


1) It's no M in any SeaMonkey default theme, and
2) any click-functionality isn't really what it's there for but only 
something added for convenience and stronger branding. Its core 
functionality is to animate while some loading is in progress and to be 
an additional indicator of we are doing something (also indicated by 
the progress bar at the bottom of the screen).


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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread John Doue

Ray_Net wrote:

John Doue wrote:

stan wrote:
Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is 
the advantage of having it?


Stan
Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation 
tool-bar and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. 
On some versions of Mozilla products, it sort of moves around, hence 
the name throbber ... Don't want to be more explicit :-)



I did not see any large M on my SM brower 


As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes. On the 
theme I use (Pinball), it is the M of Mozilla (at least, I would guess). 
An heritage SM can be proud of.

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

John Doue wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

John Doue wrote:


Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation 
tool-bar and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. 



I did not see any large M on my SM brower 


As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes. On the 
theme I use (Pinball), it is the M of Mozilla (at least, I would guess). 
An heritage SM can be proud of.


for me, I had to change mine. I have the blue bird, and 
when its active, I have a book turning pages.  I 
couldn't stand seeing the bubbles. Some times, it was 
hard to see if there was activity or not.


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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread »Q«
In news:bysdnrcnsja77u7unz2dnuvz_uwdn...@mozilla.org,
John Doue notw...@yahoo.com wrote:

[about the throbber]
 As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.

That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.  Actual
Sea-Monkeys look like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread John Doue

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

John Doue wrote:


Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation 
tool-bar and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. 



I did not see any large M on my SM brower 


As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes. On the 
theme I use (Pinball), it is the M of Mozilla (at least, I would 
guess). An heritage SM can be proud of.


for me, I had to change mine. I have the blue bird, and when its active, 
I have a book turning pages.  I couldn't stand seeing the bubbles. Some 
times, it was hard to see if there was activity or not.


Can you post the details of how you did that? Does it survive upgrading 
to a newer version or do you have to update it as well?


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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

John Doue wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

John Doue wrote:


Double-click on the large M at very right end of the navigation 
tool-bar and you will have discovered what a throbber is .. and does. 



I did not see any large M on my SM brower 


As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes. On the 
theme I use (Pinball), it is the M of Mozilla (at least, I would 
guess). An heritage SM can be proud of.


for me, I had to change mine. I have the blue bird, and when its 
active, I have a book turning pages.  I couldn't stand seeing the 
bubbles. Some times, it was hard to see if there was activity or not.


Can you post the details of how you did that? Does it survive upgrading 
to a newer version or do you have to update it as well?


sh, its a secret ;-)

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changing the busy throbber

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when 
its busy], put the following script into your 
userChrome.css file or into Stylish.  The image is a 
book turning pages. You can use any moving image you 
want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.


toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
{list-style-image: 
url(data:image/gif;base64,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SM uses too much CPU time

2009-01-18 Thread Ray K
As I write this, Task Manager is reporting that SM is hogging 89 percent 
of the CPU time even though no downloads are in progress and the Stop 
button is gray. Only a single instance of SM browser is open; Mail  
Newsgroups is closed and no other applications are running.


Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do about it? I've run 
Spybot and Crap Cleaner.


SM 1.1.14, W2k Professional, SP4 and dozens of hot fixes.

Thanks,

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Gus Richter

stan wrote:
Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?  What is the 
advantage of having it?


Stan



http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=throbber

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread JeffM
Gus Richter wrote:
Another post talks about the throbber.  What is a throbber?

stan wrote:
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=throbber

An even more tightly-focused search for technical terms:
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:throbber

What is the advantage of having it?

None if you already have the Windoze cursor turning into an hourglass.
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Re: changing the busy throbber

2009-01-18 Thread Ray_Net

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when its busy], put 
the following script into your userChrome.css file or into Stylish.  The 
image is a book turning pages. You can use any moving image you want, as 
long as it will fit into that tiny little space.


toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
{list-style-image: 
url(data:image/gif;base64,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I did not have the userChrome.css file in my SM profile
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Re: changing the busy throbber

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Ray_Net wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when its busy], put 
the following script into your userChrome.css file or into Stylish.  
The image is a book turning pages. You can use any moving image you 
want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.


toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
{list-style-image: 
url(data:image/gif;base64,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!important;}



I did not have the userChrome.css file in my SM profile


then create one.  It a texted based file that goes into 
the chrome directory.


And before you say anything, create one.

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

JeffM wrote:

John Doue wrote:

[about the throbber]
As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.


»Q« wrote:

That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.
Actual Sea-Monkeys look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg


...and, as is indicated on that page,
*sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
who put ads in the back of comic books
so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.


SeaMonkey was the developers term when they were 
programming Netscape


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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread »Q«
In
news:096a263d-5bf4-441b-9eb3-28cde4b13...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
JeffM jef...@email.com wrote:

 John Doue wrote:  
 [about the throbber]
 As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.
   
 »Q« wrote:
 That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.
 Actual Sea-Monkeys look like this:  
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg  
 
 ...and, as is indicated on that page,
 *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
 I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
 who put ads in the back of comic books
 so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.

Yes, the marketing name is Sea-Monkeys.  They got me at about that
age, and KaiRo more recently.  ;)

Old ad: http://therawfeed.com/pix/seamonkeys-lg.jpg

Current site: http://www.sea-monkeys.com/

KaiRo's:
http://home.kairo.at/blog/2007-09/sea_monkeys_living_in_a_seamonkey_team_m
http://home.kairo.at/blog/2008-03/6_month_old_sea_monkeys

I've set the followups to mozilla.general.

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread »Q«
In news:poednveolkbup-7unz2dnuvz_h4aa...@mozilla.org,
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 SeaMonkey was the developers term when they were 
 programming Netscape

The developers had come up with the code name Buttmonkey, and
Netscape management changed it to Seamonkey.  Thankfully, the
SeaMonkey Council did not revert to the older term when naming the
SeaMonkey suite.

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Re: What is a throbber?

2009-01-18 Thread Sqwertz
JeffM jef...@email.com wrote:

 *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
 I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
 who put ads in the back of comic books
 so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.

I spent some of my hard earned paycheck on those just last month.
And I'm 41 years old.

I keep them in my office at work.  Something to watch and pass the
time when I'm not busy posting nonsense on Usenet.

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Re: changing the busy throbber

2009-01-18 Thread Gerald Ross

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when 
its busy], put the following script into your 
userChrome.css file or into Stylish.  The image is a 
book turning pages. You can use any moving image you 
want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.


toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
{list-style-image: 
url(data:image/gif;base64,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!important;}




I tried cutting and pasting (while SM was closed) this and nothing 
changes. Any Idea what went wrong?


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Re: changing the busy throbber

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Gerald Ross wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when its busy], put 
the following script into your userChrome.css file or into Stylish.  
The image is a book turning pages. You can use any moving image you 
want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.


toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
{list-style-image: 
url(data:image/gif;base64,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!important;}




I tried cutting and pasting (while SM was closed) this and nothing 
changes. Any Idea what went wrong?


what did you cut and paste, and where did you put it?

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Re: SM uses too much CPU time

2009-01-18 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 1/18/2009 3:43 PM, Ray K wrote:

Ray K wrote:

As I write this, Task Manager is reporting that SM is hogging 89
percent of the CPU time even though no downloads are in progress and
the Stop button is gray. Only a single instance of SM browser is open;
Mail  Newsgroups is closed and no other applications are running.

Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do about it? I've run
Spybot and Crap Cleaner.

SM 1.1.14, W2k Professional, SP4 and dozens of hot fixes.

Thanks,

Ray


Another problem that may be related. Sometimes, TM shows 100% CPU usage
while I'm attempting to download a page. TM also shows SM as Not
Responding. If I wait 15-45 seconds, SM usually resumes running and the
download completes.

During the period that SM is not responding, clicking on Stop does
nothing. If multiple instances of SM are open, and I close one of them,
all will close, along with the Mail/Newsgroup application.


SM2 alphas are already _greatly_ improved in this regard.

Stay tuned for those improvements!

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Viewing messages

2009-01-18 Thread NO
Hello all.. I have encountered this before and fixed it, yet cannot 
remember how to now.


There are a few messages which I receive that are totally in code, then 
others are blank and unreadable.


These messages are from people or organizations which I have received 
before and can read on other computers.


I Am using SM 1.1.14 and Vista business.

Thank you again.
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Re: Old e-mails disappeared

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

David  Genelle Massey wrote:
My old e-mails disappeared overnight.  I didn't do anything to the 
program.  They were there when I went to bed and gone when I got up.  
Any chance of recovering them?  Thanks, Dave :-)


click on view, messages, all.  Did that work?

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Re: SM 1.x and also SM uses too much...

2009-01-18 Thread JR WG
RE:  Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:13:17 -0500
From: Justin Wood (Callek) cal...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: SM uses too much CPU time  
 
 
Clearly, as seen from the mostly outside observer, knowledgeable in most but 
not all respects...
 
Another reason that SM 1.x should have been abandoned long ago, albeit learned 
from, and SM 2.x completely focused upon.
 
In my past resplies and musings, I know that I brought up the same idea, but 
it's so clear that SM 1.4 came into being far too late, and that SM 2.x 
represents a massive shift to something far improved.

SM 1.x is a dead horse...it died a LONG time ago. It is befitted with a great 
number of problems built upon an old and outmoded Gecko engine that itself has 
been long since improved upon.
 
All the man/woman power expended on SM 1.4 seems of little use, as SM 1.4 was 
too old when it was released, and there is an apparent split of time, 
people-power and other resources that should have been long ago appled to SM 2.
 
With this division of valuable resources, by the time SM 2 reaches late Beta, 
the rest of the world will be in 2010...if past and current stages and events 
are any measure.
 
Is the above the ravings of a madman or one who is not in the know?  Sorry, no, 
not at all.
 
Joe

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   3. Re: What is a throbber? (?Q?)
   4. Re: What is a throbber? (Sqwertz)
   5. Re: changing the busy throbber (Gerald Ross)
   6. Re: changing the busy throbber (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
   7. Re: SM uses too much CPU time (Justin Wood (Callek))
   8. Viewing messages (NO)
   9. Old e-mails disappeared (David  Genelle Massey)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:47:57 -0800
From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
   peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What is a throbber?
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Message-ID: poednveolkbup-7unz2dnuvz_h4aa...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

JeffM wrote:
 John Doue wrote:
 [about the throbber]
 As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.

 ?Q? wrote:
 That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.
 Actual Sea-Monkeys look like this:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg
 
 ...and, as is indicated on that page,
 *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
 I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
 who put ads in the back of comic books
 so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.

SeaMonkey was the developers term when they were 
programming Netscape

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:43:59 -0600
From: ?Q? boxc...@gmx.net
Subject: Re: What is a throbber?
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Message-ID: 20090118154359.603f1...@bellgrove.remarqs.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

In
news:096a263d-5bf4-441b-9eb3-28cde4b13...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com,
JeffM jef...@email.com wrote:

 John Doue wrote:  
 [about the throbber]
 As Robert said, it is actually the SM bird on default themes.
   
 ?Q? wrote:
 That thing's an abstraction of a Sea-Monkey, not a bird.
 Actual Sea-Monkeys look like this:  
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemia_salina.jpg  
 
 ...and, as is indicated on that page,
 *sea monkey* is another name for Brine Shrimp.
 I think the sea monkey term was made up by marketers
 who put ads in the back of comic books
 so they could swindle 8 year olds out of their allowances.

Yes, the marketing name is Sea-Monkeys.  They got me at about that
age, and KaiRo more recently.  ;)

Old ad: