SM 2
Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Dead Tired of TBird :-(
Roger Fink wrote: snip You can actually replicate the integrated feel of the SeaMonkey suite to a significant degree merely by installing minimize-to-tray for the two applications TB FF, and a common theme such as Mostly Crystal. So if you get into trouble with either one, well then what happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas. I actually go to the extreme of using a separate newsreader program to REALLY keep my mistakes compartmentalized, but I believe under the rules of posting here, I'm not allowed to mention what it is. I agree, this is a valid and smart approach if you don't mind having two programs open instead of one, which makes actually little difference I guess on most machines. I go one step further: since I have an ingrained preference for SM which probably dates back to the Netscape years, I only run SM, but keep FF and TB available. And I try to minimize the number of mistakes I make :-) ... and keep available a backup on a separate machine in case I do make one (usually, installing an extension I should not have tried!). -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Gerald Ross wrote: Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. We need stable mail/news code to base our release on, and those parts are largely in control of the Thunderbird team. As they have been pushing out their Thunderbird 3 release recently, the same happened to the mail/news stabilization points, which means that we need to postpone the SeaMonkey 2 release as well. I hope we will have better estimations in terms of dates soon, but a first Beta release of SeaMonkey 2 should be available within a few weeks, the final release sometime this summer. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Robert Kaiser wrote: Gerald Ross wrote: Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. We need stable mail/news code to base our release on, and those parts are largely in control of the Thunderbird team. As they have been pushing out their Thunderbird 3 release recently, the same happened to the mail/news stabilization points, which means that we need to postpone the SeaMonkey 2 release as well. I hope we will have better estimations in terms of dates soon, but a first Beta release of SeaMonkey 2 should be available within a few weeks, the final release sometime this summer. Robert Kaiser Thanks! -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Components
Serge Popper schrieb: I run Seamonkey for both mail and browsing. On certain URL's the original design of the page is not reproduced faithfully by Seamonkey. One of those URL's is American Express. When opening a monthly statement the figures are shown under the wrong columns and the statement becomes impossible to read. American Express says they support Firefox. I'd like to know what the two components in Seamonkey are. Is the mail side a version of Firefox? Mail shares it's code from Thunderbird. The Browsers shares code with Firefox. Is there anything I can do in Seamonkey so that the columns and figures are presented as written? Besides the posted suggestions to notify about broken websites, you could try to install SM2.0alpha for a test. (it will import your profile to a new one so you old SM remains as is) You should notify them anyway about there stupid Firefox sniffing and tell them to sniff for Gecko instead of Firefox as already told here. regards Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Components
David E. Ross wrote: On 5/25/2009 1:58 PM, Serge Popper wrote: I run Seamonkey for both mail and browsing. On certain URL's the original design of the page is not reproduced faithfully by Seamonkey. One of those URL's is American Express. When opening a monthly statement the figures are shown under the wrong columns and the statement becomes impossible to read. American Express says they support Firefox. I'd like to know what the two components in Seamonkey are. Is the mail side a version of Firefox? Is there anything I can do in Seamonkey so that the columns and figures are presented as written? I actually have to use Internet Explorer to read my American Express Statements. Thanks, Serge American Express says they support Firefox. Their Web server may be attempting to detect what browser you are using. This is called sniffing. In too many cases, servers sniff for Firefox when they should instead sniff for Gecko. That's because the component that requests and displays the Web page is the Mozilla Gecko rendering engine, which is used by both Firefox and SeaMonkey (although SeaMonkey uses a version of Gecko that is one step behind Firefox). See http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko for details. One way to test my conjecture that sniffing for Firefox is involved is to make the server think you are indeed using Firefox. This is called spoofing. There are two major ways to do this. You can install an extension such as PrefBar or UserAgentSwitcher from Mozdev. Use the installed extension to spoof Firefox. You can change your user agent string manually. (See http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#agent for a definition and example of user agent.) Search in MozillaZine at http://www.mozillazine.org/ for advice on doing this. If either of these solves your problem, then please (1) report it as a bug and (2) notify American Express. To report a bug, go to the American Express site; then, on the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help Report Broken Web Site]. The best way to notify American Express would be a letter (postal mail) to the CEO; minimize (but don't eliminate) technical jargon and include a reference to the http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko Web site. Thanks David, for the incredibly thorough answer. I appreciate it. S ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Components
NoOp wrote: On 05/25/2009 01:58 PM, Serge Popper wrote: I run Seamonkey for both mail and browsing. On certain URL's the original design of the page is not reproduced faithfully by Seamonkey. One of those URL's is American Express. When opening a monthly statement the figures are shown under the wrong columns and the statement becomes impossible to read. American Express says they support Firefox. I'd like to know what the two components in Seamonkey are. Is the mail side a version of Firefox? Is there anything I can do in Seamonkey so that the columns and figures are presented as written? I actually have to use Internet Explorer to read my American Express Statements. Thanks, Serge Two points: 1. You need to advise: 1) which version of SeaMonkey, and 2) which OS you are having the problem on. While some folks here like to think that they are mind readers, such isn't necessarily the case. 2. Have you tried the page with FireFox, and if so: 1) which version, an 2) what were the results. Congrats on still having an Amex in this economy... Thanks for the congrats. I've had the thing since 1955 and they treat me with lots of respect when I call. The blue card still gives me 5% off on gas, food and prescription drugs - after I spend $6,000 with them. As 90% of my living costs go on the card, I have no probs spending the $6K I do not have FireFox installed. Amex says they support Firefox. That's why I was wondering if the browser in Seamonkey is one they support? I have Seamonkey 1.1.16 installed and run Windows XP, home. Thanks for your help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Components
Martin Feitag wrote: Serge Popper schrieb: I run Seamonkey for both mail and browsing. On certain URL's the original design of the page is not reproduced faithfully by Seamonkey. One of those URL's is American Express. When opening a monthly statement the figures are shown under the wrong columns and the statement becomes impossible to read. American Express says they support Firefox. I'd like to know what the two components in Seamonkey are. Is the mail side a version of Firefox? Mail shares it's code from Thunderbird. The Browsers shares code with Firefox. Is there anything I can do in Seamonkey so that the columns and figures are presented as written? Besides the posted suggestions to notify about broken websites, you could try to install SM2.0alpha for a test. (it will import your profile to a new one so you old SM remains as is) You should notify them anyway about there stupid Firefox sniffing and tell them to sniff for Gecko instead of Firefox as already told here. regards Martin Thanks, Martin, I'll pass it along to them. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
Robert Kaiser wrote: Gerald Ross wrote: Haven't heard any discussion about SM2 lately. I'm ready anytime. Before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm not nagging or rushing anybody. Just wondering. We need stable mail/news code to base our release on, and those parts are largely in control of the Thunderbird team. As they have been pushing out their Thunderbird 3 release recently, the same happened to the mail/news stabilization points, which means that we need to postpone the SeaMonkey 2 release as well. I hope we will have better estimations in terms of dates soon, but a first Beta release of SeaMonkey 2 should be available within a few weeks, the final release sometime this summer. Robert Kaiser To Robert Kaiser: What if theThunderbird developers cannot get their act together, until Christmas? :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2
On Tue, 26 May 2009 08:36:46 -0700, John Boyle wrote: To Robert Kaiser: What if theThunderbird developers cannot get their act together, until Christmas? :-\ They get pink slips from Mozilla Messaging. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that. I'm all out of Taglines * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Components
Serge Popper wrote: Martin Feitag wrote: Serge Popper schrieb: I run Seamonkey for both mail and browsing. On certain URL's the original design of the page is not reproduced faithfully by Seamonkey. One of those URL's is American Express. When opening a monthly statement the figures are shown under the wrong columns and the statement becomes impossible to read. American Express says they support Firefox. I'd like to know what the two components in Seamonkey are. Is the mail side a version of Firefox? Mail shares it's code from Thunderbird. The Browsers shares code with Firefox. Is there anything I can do in Seamonkey so that the columns and figures are presented as written? Besides the posted suggestions to notify about broken websites, you could try to install SM2.0alpha for a test. (it will import your profile to a new one so you old SM remains as is) You should notify them anyway about there stupid Firefox sniffing and tell them to sniff for Gecko instead of Firefox as already told here. regards Martin Thanks, Martin, I'll pass it along to them. Before you go in for major surgery, try reducing your font size (possibly considerably). Sometimes this will fix things, although having the font size so small can almost be as bad as the original problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
