Re: SM2 mail will not restore to secondary monitor

2010-01-15 Thread OBones

David Wilkinson wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Does anybody else see this?


Yes, but browser and mail behave the same for me:
When I close the windows maximized on the second screen, they will
always forget on which screen they were. When closing a window in a
non-maximized state it will remember the screen on the next start.
So start up SM, put both windows on the wanted screen in a non-maximized
state and close SM. Now fire it up again, maximize the windows you like
and close. On the next start it should be correct.

Tested/Experienced on Win2k SP4 with Secondary monitor on the right.
regards


Excellent! That did it.

I must have inadvertently done this for the browser window myself. Now that I do
it for the mail window also, it works.


There is a Bugzilla item for this:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510736
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Re: Is SM a dying product?

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Freitag

Devils_Advocate schrieb:

Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at   wrote :


Devils_Advocate schrieb:

Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already?


SeaMonkey 2.x is well-alive and should work well with most websites out
there, I very rarely have any problems.

SeaMonkey 1.x is mostly dead though and if you are still using those
versions, you probably should switch to 2.0 soon.

Robert Kaiser



I'd love to, but there's no way of migrating to it from 1.1.18



SM migrates your profile after install on first startup.
If t doesn't try to start migration manually:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
regards

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Re: New SeaMonkey install question about space bar misbehavior

2010-01-15 Thread Daniel

Mona Lisa Abbott wrote:

Hi, I am new and happy to have recently discovered seamonkey on my 7
month old MBP 17. I installed 2.02 the other day, and coincidently
found my spacebar was acting erratic. Sometimes it would be working
right, andsometimes it would not. Like just then.

Is it possible something happened when Iinstalled seamonkey or could
this just be a complete coincidence?

Thanks in Advance.
Mona in Tallahassee


Mona, I'd vote for a complete coincidence, but you never know!!

I had a malfunctioning space bar some time ago on my desktop computer 
using a wireless keyboard. Change of batteries fixed it, though. Hope 
your problem is as easy to fix!


Does your space bar function correctly in all other programs.

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and may this year be a better one!

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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:58:28 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:

 No, there is no menu item to invoke Profile Manager.  Either its done in 
 terminal, or by starting SeaMonkey from the Dock, and choosing 
 ToolsSwitch Profile.

Over in Firefox land there was some discussion of writing a custom
installer in the DMG that is automatically invoked if you run the app
from inside the dmg that will copy the .app to the application directory
and automatically add some entries in the application menu. I don't know
how doable this is but apparently there are some OSX applications out
there that are delivered as DMGs and that can do this on first installation.

Phil

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oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:46:14 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:

 As I said before, the replacement for Profile Manager requested in bug
 #539524 is -- from the Summary, Product, Component, and Description in
 that bug report -- only for test and triage, not for end users.

And our profile manager UI is not the toolkit profile manager UI but our
own take on that functionality. As long as the back end APIs are there
we can always adapt that to our needs. After all Firefox never had a
Tools-Switch profile... option, and we have.

Phil

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Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

2010-01-15 Thread Ray_Net

cyberzen wrote:

Ray_Net a écrit :

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Ray_Net wrote:

Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is:
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE.


All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18.
BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts
ppoint
to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess.


It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts.
But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them.
regards


That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts
... i
don't remember :-)


In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and
Mail in that order.


You don't understand  i have also the same now.
The problem was that after installing SM2 - then uninstall SM1 some item
simply vanished. In that situation: what was those missing £%$*! damned
shortcuts ... i don't remember :-)

The best way of re-instate all SM2 item was to do :
de-install SM2 then re-install SM2.

in that case I think it was not useful to uninstall SM2 before
reinstalling it, and that's what I have done... no problem


héhé. I ws not so clever - thanks for the idea.
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SM2 and attached wmv file in a mail

2010-01-15 Thread Ray_Net
With SM1 when Double-click the playfile.wmv attached file cannot play 
the file. I used the Right-Click of this attached file then  choice 
open. And vice-versa.

So with SM1 i was always able to play the playfile.wmv attached file.

Now with SM2 the only way to play this file is to save it on disk then 
double-click when under the disk explorer. g 


With SM2 the Double-click or Rigth-click+choiceopen ends with:

...a pop-up windows media player saying:
There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or play. 
If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid.
If you are trying to play a file, the type is not recognized by Windows 
Media Player, but the Player may still be able to play the file.
However, you should only play files from a thrusworthy source. Do you 
want the player to try to play this content ?
If you click on yes ... the result is another pop-up with the 
following info:
Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the sepcified protocol 
is not supported. If you type a URL in the Open URL dialog box, try 
using a different transport protocom(for exemple, http: or rtsp:)

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Re: SM2 and attached wmv file in a mail

2010-01-15 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:

Now with SM2 the only way to play this file is to save it on disk then 
double-click when under the disk explorer. g 

Mhm, i just tried it by sending a PM to me with an attached .wmv. Plays
happily after double-clicking. :)

But i am on Linux and not using such an ancient SM as you. ;)

Hartmut
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Lost Functionalilty with Upgrade to SM 2.0.2

2010-01-15 Thread user
I recently upgraded to the latest version of SM, and I noticed that I lost the ability to 
mark and drag and to copy/cut and paste.  I also cannot customize my toolbars.  I suspect 
those problems are related.


Not knowing where to go for answers, I tried the IRC chat system that is part of SM. 
Folks there suggested that the problem had something to do with McAfee Site Advisor (MSA). 
 I don't have MSA associated with SM and finding  a MSA button on my Internet Explorer, I 
disable it and rebooted.  The problem described above persists, so I'm not satisfied that 
it has anything to do with MSA.


Has anyone experienced this problem?  Is there a fix?

Bill

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Re: Lost Functionalilty with Upgrade to SM 2.0.2

2010-01-15 Thread Hartmut Figge
u...@domain.invalid:

I recently upgraded to the latest version of SM, and I noticed that I lost the 
ability to 
mark and drag and to copy/cut and paste.  I also cannot customize my toolbars. 
 I suspect 
those problems are related.

Did you try with safe-mode? And/or with a fresh profile? But first you
should try with renaming the localstore.rdf in your profile when SM is
closed.

Hartmut
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Re: Lost Functionalilty with Upgrade to SM 2.0.2

2010-01-15 Thread S. Beaulieu

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

I don't have MSA associated with SM and
finding a MSA button on my Internet Explorer, I disable it and rebooted.
The problem described above persists, so I'm not satisfied that it has
anything to do with MSA.


That is because the Site Adviser works all the time, even though you 
haven't associated it with SeaMonkey. And disabling it in IE is 
definitely not enough: you need to uninstall Site Adviser altogether 
using Program Files - McAfee - Site Adviser - uninstall.exe


That worked for everyone I know who had this problem.

I also read this week on the bug report on this that McAfee created an 
updated version of the Site Adviser to solve the problem associated with 
it. It is said to work (though I haven't tried it as I don't have Site 
Adviser anymore nor do I need it). You can get it at 
http://sadownload.mcafee.com/products/SA/IE/upgrade/3.0.1/website/saSetup3.0.1.163.exe


S.
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Re: SM2 and attached wmv file in a mail

2010-01-15 Thread William Morrison

Ray_Net wrote:
With SM1 when Double-click the playfile.wmv attached file cannot 
play the file. I used the Right-Click of this attached file then  
choice open. And vice-versa.

So with SM1 i was always able to play the playfile.wmv attached file.

Now with SM2 the only way to play this file is to save it on disk then 
double-click when under the disk explorer. g 


With SM2 the Double-click or Rigth-click+choiceopen ends with:

...a pop-up windows media player saying:
There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or 
play. If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid.
If you are trying to play a file, the type is not recognized by 
Windows Media Player, but the Player may still be able to play the file.
However, you should only play files from a thrusworthy source. Do you 
want the player to try to play this content ?
If you click on yes ... the result is another pop-up with the 
following info:
Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the sepcified 
protocol is not supported. If you type a URL in the Open URL dialog 
box, try using a different transport protocom(for exemple, http: or 
rtsp:)





This was just addressed a couple of days ago, go under 
editpreferencesbrowserhelper applications scroll down the listing to 
find wmv or any other file type giving you trouble, I had trouble with 
this and PDF's not opening correctly, the set player preference to Use 
Windows Media Player By Default and all should be good.



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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/14/2010 8:58 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote [in part]:
 
 No, there is no menu item to invoke Profile Manager.  Either its done in 
 terminal, or by starting SeaMonkey from the Dock, and choosing 
 ToolsSwitch Profile.

Or you uncheck the Don't ask at startup checkbox on the Profile
Manager window.  The next time you launch SeaMonkey, you get the Profile
Manager.

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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Seamonkey and DirecTV login???

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/14/2010 9:07 PM, Graham wrote:
 Devils_Advocate wrote:
 DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown,
 and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using
 Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to login.
 
 I just tried it using SM 2.0.2 and I was astounded to discover that this 
 is one of very few sites where SM2 has actually been able to supply a 
 saved logon and password, and what's more, one it migrated from SM1! I'm 
 logged in just fine, and very quickly. No user agent spoofing needed, 
 but I do allow the DirecTV web site to run Javascript.
 
 Graham.
 

I reported the problem to DirecTV, and they said they were able to
log in using the latest version of Firefox, so I suspect it's a
problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.X.

I wouldn't expect D* to do anything to help the old version(s).
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Re: Allow HTML Temp on SM2

2010-01-15 Thread David Wilkinson
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 You know how to get in touch with him?
 
 Have you tried the e-mail address given:
 
 https://addons.mozilla.org/user/712

Stanimir:

Thanks. I've emailed him, but no response yet.

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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Benoit Renard

Hartmut Figge wrote:

David E. Ross:


I was used to setting
alias rm='rm -i'
but I was working at a location other than my usual.  I entered
rm *
Quickly realizing what I had done, I then entered
CTRL-C
But it was too late.  I didn't lose all my files, but I lost too many.
Fortunately, all accounts were backed-up daily by the system
administrators.


Well, you are responsible for that what you are doing. Would you really
like it in this way?

user:   enters command
system: are you sure?
user:   yes
system: really?
user:   YES
system: would you like to reflect your decision?
user:   $§%$§

Hart *g* mut


Of course not, but for big irreversible decisions, a Are you sure? 
prompt is good design and guards against mistakes.

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Re: SM2 and attached wmv file in a mail

2010-01-15 Thread Ray_Net

William Morrison wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

With SM1 when Double-click the playfile.wmv attached file cannot
play the file. I used the Right-Click of this attached file then
choice open. And vice-versa.
So with SM1 i was always able to play the playfile.wmv attached file.

Now with SM2 the only way to play this file is to save it on disk then
double-click when under the disk explorer. g 

With SM2 the Double-click or Rigth-click+choiceopen ends with:

...a pop-up windows media player saying:
There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or
play. If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid.
If you are trying to play a file, the type is not recognized by
Windows Media Player, but the Player may still be able to play the file.
However, you should only play files from a thrusworthy source. Do you
want the player to try to play this content ?
If you click on yes ... the result is another pop-up with the
following info:
Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the sepcified
protocol is not supported. If you type a URL in the Open URL dialog
box, try using a different transport protocom(for exemple, http: or
rtsp:)




This was just addressed a couple of days ago, go under
editpreferencesbrowserhelper applications scroll down the listing to
find wmv or any other file type giving you trouble, I had trouble with
this and PDF's not opening correctly, the set player preference to Use
Windows Media Player By Default and all should be good.



Thanks a lot - tested and solved in less than 30 seconds.
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Re: Q about mail/news sorting

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/11/2010 8:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Arne wrote:
 
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 1/11/2010 3:41 AM, Arne wrote:
 I would like to know what the difference is between Sort by: Date
 and Sort by: Received?

 Do you mean Sort by: Order Received? That is the date/time the message
 showed up on your doorstep, regardless of the date shown in the Date
 header of the message. These can be different.
 
 No, I don't mean Sort by: Order Received. As I wrote, I can see what 
 happen with that sort order. But I can't see what happen with the 
 plain Received sorting that is different from sorting by Date.
 
 OK, here's a theory:
 
 If you look at a message header, you'll see that it contains Date: and 
 Received: fields. The Date: field is the date attached by the sending 
 computer, which may or may not be accurate. The Received: fields are 
 attached by the various servers that handle the message en route.
 
 So if you sort by Date:, you're sorting by when the sender's computer 
 thought it sent it, and if you sort by Received:, you're sorting by when 
 one of the mail servers thought it got it. Could be as much as several 
 days apart.
 

How do you sort by Received. I don't have that option. In my SeaMonkey,
I have no such option. I do have Sort by Order Received. Is that what
you're talking about. I've found that is set to the time the message is
placed in the mail folder.

For example, if I get three messages: A, B and C - in that order, then
move them into another mail folder in this order: First B, then A, then C,
and the other mail folder is set to display in the Order Received, the
messages are display in this order: B, A, C.

As far as I can see, it's not using the dates in the received headers at
all.

Perhaps this changed for SM 2.x. This is how it's always worked for me
in SeaMonkey 1.1.X (and I'm pretty sure earlier Mozilla products as
well).

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-15 Thread Bill Davidsen

Phillip Jones wrote:

I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we 
users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other. 
Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or 
needs.


It's not that the developers don't care, it's that Seamonkey is just a mashup of 
Firefox, Thunderbird, and Chazilla. It's not independent code, so unless Firefox 
gets a decent forms manager I can't see one in Seamonkey.


The goal seems to be to provide the suite option with a minimum of resources 
rather than to fork an independent code base which could have enhanced features, 
like the webkit code chrome and safari reportedly are using. That's done quite 
well. From Robert's constant comments about resources, I suspect that what we 
have is a struggle.


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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-15 Thread Rufus

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth 
we users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the 
other. Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user 
wants or needs.


It's not that the developers don't care, it's that Seamonkey is just a 
mashup of Firefox, Thunderbird, and Chazilla. It's not independent code, 
so unless Firefox gets a decent forms manager I can't see one in Seamonkey.




It was at one time, I thought...great idea - just needs catching up and 
polishing off.  That's only understandable.


But from my observations, I'm inclined to agree with Phillip...any one 
developer seems to be able to roadblock a user request - even when more 
than one of the other developers might be in support of the users...


The goal seems to be to provide the suite option with a minimum of 
resources rather than to fork an independent code base which could have 
enhanced features, like the webkit code chrome and safari reportedly are 
using. That's done quite well. From Robert's constant comments about 
resources, I suspect that what we have is a struggle.




I don't see why that couldn't continue in the form of bundling what 
might otherwise be add-ons in/with the basic package issued by the SM 
developers - the architecture of the suite seems modular from the 
outset, and if people can write add-ons, the team should be able to 
continue in a core kit-code plus adds architecture...I would think. 
It's just a matter of what gets delivered to SM users as baseline.


BTW - I've been surveying other packages for the first time in 
decades...the only other suite I've found (for Mac, anyway) is 
Opera...which I'm liking enough to mak me trash everything else I've 
been looking at for one single feature - it opens it's Mail/News 
function in a tab in the same window as it's browser.


Opera is tab HEAVEN - especially for working on a laptop, and 
particularly with Mac OS X - I can open Opera full screen without 
worrying about obscuring/blocking/hiding a window.  In with OS X I can 
also assign Opera to its own Space and...whoa...I get to use my full 
screen unencumbered.


If I could get everything I have/had functionally and interface-wise in 
Seamonkey 1.1.18 and that one feature added, I'd consider that package 
to be very near perfection.  Only other thing I'd want would be 
insurance that the contents of the Forms Manager were encrypted...then I 
really would call it perfect!


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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones

»Q« wrote:

Innews:mjqdnfxvpcrqxdlwnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org,
Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com  wrote:


On Mac system while the actual system used is FreeBSD UNIX the Apple
Mac Interface  does all the UNIX commands and the UNIX is hidden.


Not all of them, by far.  It just does the stuff most users will ever
need.


It silly to have to type a command line in a modern system just to
get to something that previously you had a menu choice for.


On Macs, does SeaMonkey still install a menu item to launch the
profile manager?


I don't know what all this fascination with using command line stuff
to do work. My goodness you were doing that in 1982 and 27 years
later you still want to fiddle with command line. I don't find
anything geeky, nerdy about it just old and out of fashion.


In some cases, it's used to do things that can't be done with the GUI.
It gives a lot more control, though it's certainly fine if that
increased control isn't something you want for yourself.

In other cases, it's used to quickly do things are more tedious in a
GUI.  For example, I create a new testing profile and launch the
browser by typing four letters, rather than by opening the PM then
clicking checkboxes and navigating to where I want the profile stored
and all that.  GUI users can do the same thing, but it takes them
longer, and it would annoy me if the GUI were the only way to do it.



On Mac Go to Tools menu  Switch profile  Click on Manage Profle if 
creating a new profile give new name and it created and you are 
switched. No telling where to put it its put the SeaMonkey Folder in the 
: username Library Application Support  SeaMonkey Profiles , 
automatically you don't point to anything. If is just created there.

Actually some mousing and two clicks and some type of a name.

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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones

»Q« wrote:

Innews:lradnsqnx61gxnlwnz2dnuvz_tudn...@mozilla.org,
Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com  wrote:


»Q« wrote:

Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org,
Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com   wrote:



 From what I've been reading on the  dev.planning newsgroup.
They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater
regardless of what users say.


You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually
read.

Perhaps part of the problem is that you don't actually know who has
what responsibilities, so you can't tell who's saying what.

Mike Beltzner is the director of the Firefox project, ultimately
responsible for what is and isn't in Firefox releases.  Talking
about the PM GUI, Beltzner says in that thread, We obviously won't
ship a product to users that regresses important functionality that
our support teams rely on.

And obviously, if the PM GUI is available for Fx releases, it will
also be available for SeaMonkey releases.


He is but one person.


Read again.  He's the one person who can decide what is and isn't
included.  The buck stops with him.


there many other there anxious to deep six it asap.


I'd ask you to say what large group of devs you mean and what posts you
base your opinion on, but I know from experience that your reply would
be vague and not address the question.

FWIW, I'm not actually trying to convince *you* that the devs aren't
out to destroy everything good in life, just trying to maintain some
perspective in this thread.


Can your 85  year old Grandma trying to use command line to do
something that was easy to do.


My 85-year-old grandma isn't even allowed to use SeaMonkey's Profile
Manager any more, since she kept highlighting and deleting the wrong
profile. Does your 85-year-old grandma find the current Profile Manager
easy to use?  If so, congrats to her.


Based on my readings in the Bugzilla Bug report and on the discussion group.

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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

»Q« wrote:

Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org,
Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com  wrote:


Phillip Jones wrote:

/snip/


You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually read.

Perhaps part of the problem is that you don't actually know who has what
responsibilities, so you can't tell who's saying what.

Mike Beltzner is the director of the Firefox project, ultimately
responsible for what is and isn't in Firefox releases. Talking
about the PM GUI, Beltzner says in that thread, We obviously won't ship
a product to users that regresses important functionality that our
support teams rely on.

And obviously, if the PM GUI is available for Fx releases, it will also
be available for SeaMonkey releases.


He is but one person. there many other there anxious to deep six it asap.
Can your 85 year old Grandma trying to use command line to do something
that was easy to do.



Okay, where is that coming from Phillip? Have you read the thread in the
developer group? I don't think you can support that statement.

Even if it is true, Mike Beltzner is a pretty important one person.

Lee

Yes I have been reading the group and even posting occasion.

And Mike is suggestion not deep six Profile manager but to modernize it.
 But the other voices except of those of us have some sanity are read 
to  can it ASAP. Many say there is no need for even texting for a bad 
profile. Some even suggestion it be self healing. but suppose the self 
heal routine destroys information you need to keep. What then.


I am not saying everything has to be on a menu. But why switch something 
that's been a menu choice for ages and suddenly its a Command line that 
you have to use Terminal to use. I am not looking at the prospect. That 
would mean I would have to make a daily back up of my profile Folder 
ever day  just to reload in case some went haywire.

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Re: Profile Manager

2010-01-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

David E. Ross:


I was used to setting
alias rm='rm -i'
but I was working at a location other than my usual.  I entered
rm *
Quickly realizing what I had done, I then entered
CTRL-C
But it was too late.  I didn't lose all my files, but I lost too many.
Fortunately, all accounts were backed-up daily by the system
administrators.


Well, you are responsible for that what you are doing. Would you really
like it in this way?

user:   enters command
system: are you sure?
user:   yes
system: really?
user:   YES
system: would you like to reflect your decision?
user:   $§%$§

Hart *g* mut


Well the Mac OS is not quite that way

the first 3 step are accurate although its actually okay or cancel, with 
Cancel the highlighted choice. Gives one change to decided whether, your 
okay with your decision or you willing to possibly screw up your 
application or system click menu choice  windows comes up are you sure 
 you want to do this  Choices Cancel / Okay. You decide. slows you 
down enough so you can decide whether you want to throw away that 
valuable file you've worked on for a year and half or not. In UNIX, 
LINUX, or even windows you put in the wrong thing, its gone.  You still 
have to decide , but it give you the ability to decided to screw up or not.


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